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BattleMaster => Locals => Beluaterra => Topic started by: Tom on July 27, 2012, 09:44:41 AM
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As announced, there will be no more GM-driven invasions.
That doesn't mean BT will become peaceful. However, the new invasion system is a lot more player-driven and a mix of PvP and PvE. It is really simple and brilliant. Here's how it works:
With the defeat of the Daimon Dominion, everyone on Beluaterra is relieved, but has also had their eyes opened to other worlds, to magic and to the grim realities of life. Witchcraft and sorcery are taking hold amongst the population and while most of it is harmless charlatanry, some of those witches, warlocks, sorcerers, hedge magicians and what else they call themselves are making you nervous.
Guards and militia throughout the island have been instructed to be on the look out. It is feared that all this wild magic would cause more evils to stir in the night...
OOC Information:
There are two new magical scrolls added to the game, Summon Monsters and Summon Undead. They do exactly what you think they do. However, there is an additional way of finding them, aside from adventurers contacting wizards: They can be found when you are a region lord and your guards burn a witch. This is a random event, there's nothing you need to do.
One of those scrolls alone won't do very much. It might be a small nuisance. But if your realm begins stockpiling them... and then uses a lot of them in the lands of the same enemy... not all in the same region, but say one or two in each of his regions... or send your local invasion to the allies of your enemy so they are busy and can't help out... or... there are so many options...
The base concept is that there will be fewer and smaller invasions, and you the players will trigger them. And what a burnt-earth strategy for a realm being conquered by a superior enemy...
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heh... do judges get to grab scrolls from prisoners btw?
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heh... do judges get to grab scrolls from prisoners btw?
no, they aren't unique items.
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hmm so instead of a big invasion, we are getting small fries? that is somewhat disappointing but I can see the potential. I guess it can't be called an invasion anymore. Those scrolls sound like strategical weapons...
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Sounds interesting. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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While I'm a fan of a big epic Invasions, let us see how this works out. It might end up being lots of fun :)
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hmm so instead of a big invasion, we are getting small fries? that is somewhat disappointing but I can see the potential. I guess it can't be called an invasion anymore. Those scrolls sound like strategical weapons...
Usually, it will result in mini-invasions on parts of the island. But if two or more realms were to go nuclear on each other after having collected a bunch of them scrolls... you wouldn't see much of a difference to a big invasion.
And there's also a few hidden things I'm not (yet) talking about. Some things can blow up if they accumulate too much...
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Usually, it will result in mini-invasions on parts of the island. But if two or more realms were to go nuclear on each other after having collected a bunch of them scrolls... you wouldn't see much of a difference to a big invasion.
And there's also a few hidden things I'm not (yet) talking about. Some things can blow up if they accumulate too much...
I love the scrolls idea! Its going to be sooo funny! ;D ... and with blow ups!!! maybe a overdose of scrolls = Dragons?! ;D
Oh, well... a few questions: only lords will find scrolls, not knights? and I had understand, once summoned the monsters/undead, they will be totally free-will, they will obey nobody? totally wild monsters.
Maybe a bit dumb questions, but better be sure than sorry.
PD. I know 'someone' who has already a monster's scroll!!! ... he,he...
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For the details, you will have to experiment. *grin*
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Oh boy. What an evil idea.
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Only an evil mind can make such an awesome game ;)
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All in favour of using Enweil as a weapon testing area, say "aye"
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EYA!
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Its a nice addition. The nuclear weapon analogy is quite appropriate. Everyone will want to have them but morally condemn their use. Don't mess with Realm XXX - they have the Scroll.
Small concern: If they have an equal chance of popping up in all regions they add to the superiority of large realms as they quite easily will be able to nuke smaller realms to the stoneage. But that is a concern without knowing the additional features Tom mention and hopefully they balance things nicely.
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Its a nice addition. The nuclear weapon analogy is quite appropriate. Everyone will want to have them but morally condemn their use. Don't mess with Realm XXX - they have the Scroll.
Small concern: If they have an equal chance of popping up in all regions they add to the superiority of large realms as they quite easily will be able to nuke smaller realms to the stoneage. But that is a concern without knowing the additional features Tom mention and hopefully they balance things nicely.
When you think about the consequences you realize quickly that a large realm using masses of them on a small realm falls into the same category as, say, China nuking british Hong Kong...
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When you think about the consequences you realize quickly that a large realm using masses of them on a small realm falls into the same category as, say, China nuking british Hong Kong...
Haha, just what I was thinking. You can sow the wind, but you'd best be prepared to reap...
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Haha, just what I was thinking. You can sow the wind, but you'd best be prepared to reap...
Exactly. On a large target realm, that's much less of an issue.
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they don't need nukes... they got potentially dodgy nuclear power stations nearby XD
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This seems good, it also opens the door for a more magic orientated BEL to contrast a very SMA Dwilight. Definately seems worth checking out
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any expiriences yet with these scrolls?
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It might be a good idea to make Beluaterra the magic island. Make scrolls of all kinds more easily available, turning them into a semi-important part of the game.
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Oh man, I'm starting to see yet another use for infiltrators... Nuke bearers ;D!
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Oh man, I'm starting to see yet another use for infiltrators... Nuke bearers ;D!
Why infiltrators? Priest/Ambassadors do better. :P
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Oh man, I'm starting to see yet another use for infiltrators... Nuke bearers ;D!
Well, if you give infiltrators the chance to steal items and scrolls... Man, would that be sweet.
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Well, if you give infiltrators the chance to steal items and scrolls... Man, would that be sweet.
Well, that'd be a little bit too overpowered... or not? Awesomish Doom Lord with all the scrolls of the island... buffffffffff :P
Why infiltrators? Priest/Ambassadors do better. :P
Because we don't want you Chénier people to go on a marathon through a whole realm leaving "presents" in all regions, thank you. That'd be the best reason ever to crown you as "Most Prized Head" of Beluaterra ;D
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Why infiltrators? Priest/Ambassadors do better. :P
Damn straight.
I can imagine a religion stockpiling these, actually, with priests as fast-strike monster-sowers.
"King Bob isn't playing nice with us? Uh-oh– looks like the Gods angrily dropped monsters all over his realm!"
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Damn straight.
I can imagine a religion stockpiling these, actually, with priests as fast-strike monster-sowers.
"King Bob isn't playing nice with us? Uh-oh– looks like the Gods angrily dropped monsters all over his realm!"
That would be a good way to start giving religions power, the issue is then getting/keeping noble followers of King Bob's realm.
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That would be a good way to start giving religions power, the issue is then getting/keeping noble followers of King Bob's realm.
Duke Greedypurse has always wanted to be King. King Hereticpants has clearly lost the favour of the Gods, as evidenced by the horrible, horrible curses on the land. Religion Sneakysummoners is delighted to find a non-heretic to support to the throne...And if the Duke wins, then the religion has an in at the highest levels...
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Duke Greedypurse has always wanted to be King. King Hereticpants has clearly lost the favour of the Gods, as evidenced by the horrible, horrible curses on the land. Religion Sneakysummoners is delighted to find a non-heretic to support to the throne...And if the Duke wins, then the religion has an in at the highest levels...
Would work in some cases but not all. I like the names lol.
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Especially since there are notices of magic being used in the area. Opposing religions could start tagging nobles of other faiths as warlocks and witches instead.
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Especially since there are notices of magic being used in the area. Opposing religions could start tagging nobles of other faiths as warlocks and witches instead.
Now the only thing I don't like about it is that it's limited to Beluterra. Has anyone used one of these scrolls yet?
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They've been used on BT, yeah. In past invasions and in the lull after the current one.
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" a priest was seen reading some sort of scroll. he was then promptly lynched by a mob of superstitious peasants. including his followers."
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I admit, I'd laugh.
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don't like the idea that priests or for that matter, advy.. (if possible) can use their different travelling setup to do something like a driveby...
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Welp, that's the way it works. I remember when religion was first implemented, and the first religious wars started. Priests would do drive-by preachings to increase their following in enemy realms.
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It'd be nice if all sorts of scrolls were more available in BT, not only those summoning one, making it the continent of magic - or at least the most magical, but still keeping it low-fantasy. It would be a side-game probably very appreciated by players.
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It'd be nice if all sorts of scrolls were more available in BT, not only those summoning one, making it the continent of magic - or at least the most magical, but still keeping it low-fantasy. It would be a side-game probably very appreciated by players.
What makes you think this isn't already the case?
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What makes you think this isn't already the case?
Well, the announcement only mentioned there were two new scrolls to be found at random by region lords, not that all of them would share such privilege.
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That's not the only way to get scrolls.
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Well, the announcement only mentioned there were two new scrolls to be found at random by region lords, not that all of them would share such privilege.
NEW.
There were already a bunch of scroll types. They are just rare.
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NEW.
There were already a bunch of scroll types. They are just rare.
That's his point, he said more available not for more to exist.
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And as Tom said, how do you know they are not more available?
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And as Tom said, how do you know they are not more available?
And I don't. I was just replying to Chenier's post.
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And as Tom said, how do you know they are not more available?
And as said, I don't, the announcement did not mention other scrolls besides the summoning ones. That's why the suggestion.
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That's his point, he said more available not for more to exist.
My bad, I scan-read and misplaced a few words in his sentence.
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My impression on Beluaterra was that scrolls were rather common if you knew where to look. Hireshmont used at least 3, Cyrilos used 2.