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Title: Gold
Post by: Penchant on June 23, 2012, 05:40:28 PM
Whats the most gold (including bonds) one of your characters as had at one time?
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Zakilevo on June 23, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
4600 gold.

But I've seen people with over 15k gold. And I hear rumours of Darkan dukes with ridiculous amount of gold in their hands.

Updated: 8100 \o/
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Psyche on June 23, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
I've had more than that, but that's a reason I was kicked from the game before- abusing a bug.  I used to RTOs Ren Madragas on BT, set a buy order of 999 gold per 100 bushels and sell for 1 per 100.  Built a temple there to store gold and put in global treasury of Order of Alluran.

I had multicheated too, so had like 3 different traders with 10 caravans buying and selling 1k bushels each sometimes 3 times a day each.  This went on for a few weeks..

You do the math.


Before any abuses though, my character Distorted once had an honest 23k gold.  When he became the first Alluranian Duke of Jidington he received a largest first tax of almost 7k, due to the fact the region was rogue, producing gold,  and nobody had collected it in some time so it built up.  From there he just kept piling it up because he had as head of the church, founder of the realm, and duke over a lot of rural regions who gave food freely that he sold to Eno(wealthiest city on the island).  Until he got REALLY greedy politically he was living it high and fancy.


Also, when I had come back to the game, Hvrek managed Lopa quite well.  With a fair gold base for a rural, tons of food to sell to Grehk, regular investments, and a nonstop taxrate of 25% he netted an income of over 1k gold a week for himself AFTER investment costs and knight shares.

Lesson:  A lot of gold to be had in southern BT if you're determined.  Either join Riombara or replace it.  Plus, their whole realm is now a drool-worthy peninsula with only one small front with a realm with no cities.  If not for Daimons you could easily claim them to be setup as one of the strongest,  if not at least most wealth-secured realms in the game.  At the last map I saw they have no immediate human realm threats, and a long march for any others to pick a fight with them- which gives them a very favorable homeland advantage to sit on their asses and bathe in gold and full RC centers.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: fodder on June 24, 2012, 12:05:20 AM
nowadays traders/stewards can have a ton of gold (or rather, bonds)

especially if they travel around looking for trade  (yes.. no unit. safest)
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: LilWolf on June 24, 2012, 01:59:19 AM
Whats the most gold (including bonds) one of your characters as had at one time?

30 000.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Foundation on June 24, 2012, 03:28:00 AM
3600, and that's all winnings from 1 tournament.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: vonGenf on June 24, 2012, 11:52:24 AM
And here I thought character gold was capped at 10k like family gold.... I still have work to do.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Sacha on June 24, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
12,000-ish gold.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: D'Espana on June 26, 2012, 12:00:47 AM
And I was clapping all over D'Hara for my first thousand  :-[
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Chenier on June 26, 2012, 01:24:07 AM
And I was clapping all over D'Hara for my first thousand  :-[

You must be the poorest D'Haran around.  :-\
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Charles on June 26, 2012, 08:13:27 PM
I do not remember the last time my D'Haran noble had less than 1k.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: D'Espana on June 26, 2012, 09:00:44 PM
In my defence I have to say that great amounts of gold or bonds literally burn my hands. Whenever I start to stockpile them I always feel like: oh no oh no I have too much gold, the greed gods will come after me, I have to get rid of it right now, HURRY AND SPEND IT ALL YOU FAT POMPOUS CHARACTER ;D

But usually that's not possible or wise, so now I stick to the "peace, love and free gold for everyone in need of it" policy
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Bael on June 26, 2012, 09:33:32 PM
In my defence I have to say that great amounts of gold or bonds literally burn my hands. Whenever I start to stockpile them I always feel like: oh no oh no I have too much gold, the greed gods will come after me, I have to get rid of it right now, HURRY AND SPEND IT ALL YOU FAT POMPOUS CHARACTER ;D

But usually that's not possible or wise, so now I stick to the "peace, love and free gold for everyone in need of it" policy

I never stockpile any large amount of gold (even though I am currently gettting about 1k per tax on one character), just because I'm addicted to building recruiting centers  ??? ;D It's like gambling!

The most that I've had has probably been 2.5k (that was still before I started getting so much gold from the city under the new estate system)
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Iltaran on June 27, 2012, 07:34:34 AM
I don't think I've ever had more than 6k on hand. I start getting twitchy after five.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Zakilevo on June 27, 2012, 07:40:25 AM
I never stockpile any large amount of gold (even though I am currently gettting about 1k per tax on one character), just because I'm addicted to building recruiting centers  ??? ;D It's like gambling!

The most that I've had has probably been 2.5k (that was still before I started getting so much gold from the city under the new estate system)

Totally understand Bael. Building RCs is just too addicting ;)
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Ehndras on July 11, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
Jeeze!

...And I felt special for breaking 1k for the first time?

Poor Terran Lord is Poor.

(Maybe I should stop building granaries, recruitment centers, hiring militia, training my leadership and sword-skill, stockpiling thousands of food to last through the nuclear apocalypse, and so forth. I never had over 200 gold at a time until I decided to liquidate the 2,000 food I had sitting around <_< Now I maintain a policy of "spend everything over 1k on Terran infrastructure or helping others, you Jewy bastard" because I'm already a money-hoarding maniac in RL)
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Foundation on July 11, 2012, 05:49:48 PM
Wait, you're a lord and you don't have 2k banked all the time?  Shame on your estates! :P
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Zakilevo on July 11, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
Jeeze!

...And I felt special for breaking 1k for the first time?

Poor Terran Lord is Poor.

(Maybe I should stop building granaries, recruitment centers, hiring militia, training my leadership and sword-skill, stockpiling thousands of food to last through the nuclear apocalypse, and so forth. I never had over 200 gold at a time until I decided to liquidate the 2,000 food I had sitting around <_< Now I maintain a policy of "spend everything over 1k on Terran infrastructure or helping others, you Jewy bastard" because I'm already a money-hoarding maniac in RL)

That is a lot of food... the best way to earn gold is becoming a duke or a ruler :). Well a ruler of a big realm.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Ehndras on July 11, 2012, 06:35:52 PM
Vassar is a border region in the middle of nowhere next to Zuma lands <_< Food is pretty much the only income. We have the 2nd or 3rd lowest income of the entire realm, bahaha. I had 1,800 gold yesterday but I just blew most of it on... The hell did I buy? Oh wait, nevermind, still have 1674. Maybe I'll break 2k for the first time :-)
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Penchant on July 12, 2012, 06:37:31 AM
Jeeze!

...And I felt special for breaking 1k for the first time?

Poor Terran Lord is Poor.

(Maybe I should stop building granaries, recruitment centers, hiring militia, training my leadership and sword-skill, stockpiling thousands of food to last through the nuclear apocalypse, and so forth. I never had over 200 gold at a time until I decided to liquidate the 2,000 food I had sitting around <_< Now I maintain a policy of "spend everything over 1k on Terran infrastructure or helping others, you Jewy bastard" because I'm already a money-hoarding maniac in RL)
Finally someone makes me feel rich. My knight currently has over 2k gold.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Dante Silverfire on July 13, 2012, 01:13:49 AM
Finally someone makes me feel rich. My knight currently has over 2k gold.

If you want to be a rich knight, just come to serve Barad Falas on Atamara. My knights all make over 250 gold a tax, and one time got 420 gold in a tax. And I have 7 knights currently.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Indirik on July 13, 2012, 01:19:54 AM
Meh... pocket change. The knights of both my duke characters make about 400 gold a week. And they both have vacant estates available.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Dante Silverfire on July 13, 2012, 01:21:28 AM
Meh... pocket change. The knights of both my duke characters make about 400 gold a week. And they both have vacant estates available.

How many knights are you supporting though?

If you're supporting 7 knights making 400 gold a week on a regular basis I'd say that's pretty good. Mine have only made the 420 gold a week once.

Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Foundation on July 13, 2012, 02:06:01 AM
Where are your vacant estates, Rob? :P
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Indirik on July 13, 2012, 02:30:24 AM
I only have one knight in Libidizedd, and two in Akanos.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Foundation on July 14, 2012, 02:08:11 AM
Never heard of those cities... -_-

I want to get 400 gold per week and use only 200. :P
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 02:57:08 AM
I only have one knight in Libidizedd, and two in Akanos.

The Akanos one seems interesting. You don't have to convert like the one in Libidizedd, right?
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Indirik on July 14, 2012, 01:52:01 PM
You don't have to convert to have an estate in Libidizedd, either.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Indirik on July 14, 2012, 02:09:17 PM
Actually, it turns out that both of the estates in Akanos are full. I could create another if Sorraine got full enough to need another.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 09:38:24 PM
You don't have to convert to have an estate in Libidizedd, either.

Really? I guess Astrum is more liberal than Morek, then.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Penchant on July 14, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
Really? I guess Astrum is more liberal than Morek, then.
I remember a certain Creed and Bowie, both of which I believe are lords so I don't know about that.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 10:32:28 PM
I remember a certain Creed and Bowie, both of which I believe are lords so I don't know about that.

Dunno, a new player I invited was told he would only be given an estate if he joined the Church.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Penchant on July 14, 2012, 10:42:33 PM
Dunno, a new player I invited was told he would only be given an estate if he joined the Church.
Yeah but that could have been the lords choice, not realm policy but it also could have been from the "house of lords" or whatever Morek's group of lords is called which would seem like realm policy.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Ehndras on July 14, 2012, 11:23:24 PM
Dunno, a new player I invited was told he would only be given an estate if he joined the Church.

Wait, what? That sounds like a meta-gamey and a very dirtbaggish move.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Penchant on July 15, 2012, 12:00:13 AM
Wait, what? That sounds like a meta-gamey and a very dirtbaggish move.
If you think he was invited and then told by JPierreD afterwards about that I would agree a little but I tell you what happened to clear it up. JPierreD invited someone, either to the game or just to Morek. They joined and went to Morek, a theocracy of SA. They asked for a estate, and were told by either the lord or the message group of lords that you must join the church to have in estate in Morek, a theocracy. My point I am making it does make sense IG that a theocracy have you join their religion before allowing you to have an estate their.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on July 15, 2012, 12:33:55 AM
Creed and Bowie are not exactly friends of the Church, yet hold lordships. So I don't know about any claims that Morek won't allow heathen lords.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Indirik on July 15, 2012, 12:55:14 AM
Whoever told them that was absolutely wrong. It was never policy in any of the theocracies to prevent non-SA people from being in the realm, or having estates. Morek even has council-level nobles who are not SA. As someone said, Bowie and Creed are not friends of SA. Bowie cheered on Averoth and Caerwyn when they attacked Astrum in an effort to drive off SA. Creed is an avowed heretic of SA.

It was unofficial policy in Astrum (and still is) that only SA members get lordships. That's not metagaming at all. The realm is a theocrcay devoted to SA. Why would we let just anyone have power?
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Zakilevo on July 15, 2012, 01:11:18 AM
Whoever told them that was absolutely wrong. It was never policy in any of the theocracies to prevent non-SA people from being in the realm, or having estates. Morek even has council-level nobles who are not SA. As someone said, Bowie and Creed are not friends of SA. Bowie cheered on Averoth and Caerwyn when they attacked Astrum in an effort to drive off SA. Creed is an avowed heretic of SA.

It was unofficial policy in Astrum (and still is) that only SA members get lordships. That's not metagaming at all. The realm is a theocrcay devoted to SA. Why would we let just anyone have power?

I became a lord before joining the church :o
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: Indirik on July 15, 2012, 02:43:14 AM
And now YOU'RE GONE!!! >:-)
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: JPierreD on July 15, 2012, 03:41:37 AM
There is certainly much misinformation regarding that, and mixed opinions. Apart from that individual case when I was in Summerdale I received several letters for me to pass forward to the Dalian nobles inviting them to join Morek, but making clear joining the Church was a necessity to hold Lordships.

I suppose some radical characters say one thing while other more moderate ones say another. Wonder whose opinion is the one that prevails in the political game.

And I don't consider it meta-gamey at all. It's perfectly valid RP, very suited to a Theocracy.
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: egamma on July 15, 2012, 07:02:50 AM
I've occasionally tried to force my religion on that of my knights (on multiple islands), with little result. Of course, now that I can easily kick them...
Title: Re: Gold
Post by: vonGenf on July 15, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
They joined and went to Morek, a theocracy of SA. They asked for a estate, and were told by either the lord or the message group of lords that you must join the church to have in estate in Morek, a theocracy.

It is an IG requirement to be a member of SA to get an estate in Caiyun. The Lord of Caiyun may or may not make it sound as if that was a requirement in all regions of Morek, depending on the forum in which this requirement is aired.