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Title: Exciting times
Post by: Zakilevo on December 05, 2015, 10:36:07 PM
Looks like many players are either planning to create new realms everywhere. It is a shame I already have a character on EC. Those new realms in the south will be very interesting.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: Indirik on December 06, 2015, 12:33:58 AM
I bet they attack Vix Tiramora. ;)
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: Gabanus family on December 06, 2015, 01:47:35 PM
I bet they attack Vix Tiramora. ;)

Question is, what will Perleone do? :)
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: BarticaBoat on December 06, 2015, 07:40:16 PM
Is a refugee realm fair? Especially when theyve been transplanted in areas that formerly had history and claims, etc.

Deal with the influx as you normally would; they show up, tensions grow, let us RP our way through it. The idea that they can just up and be planted somewhere and go yes, this is ours is... silly to me.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: James on December 06, 2015, 08:28:57 PM
There are certainly some who will be heading southward to return to their homelands once they realise the ice has retreated and the regions can be lived in again...
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: Vita` on December 06, 2015, 08:44:42 PM
Ah, this elusive 'fairness'. Anyone can always come up with a perspective that isn't 'fair' in life. Is creating a new realm for refugees more or less fair than losing the island they've played on?
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: James on December 06, 2015, 10:27:25 PM
It's perfectly fine for them to do that. If they noticed it was possible to live in those frozen areas again (damn that Elsa and the trouble she caused...) and started moving in before the rest of us noticed, that's down to others to deal with if they want to. Some have moved on, or reminisce about the old lands but won't return, others will return but to integrated with the new realms, others will no doubt want to fight for the lands themselves. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all goes.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: Fuchs on December 06, 2015, 10:33:06 PM
It will be a blood bath with all of the Diffrent factions fighting for power and wanting to establish their own realms.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: BarticaBoat on December 06, 2015, 10:47:15 PM
Ah, this elusive 'fairness'. Anyone can always come up with a perspective that isn't 'fair' in life. Is creating a new realm for refugees more or less fair than losing the island they've played on?

I think it's less fair; it is less IC for a refugee realm to exist. I'm also saying this as someone who played majority on Atamara and sunk a lot of time into the island. I understand it as a concession but I'd rather play the foreigner and build my way again, or band together with my compatriots and take somewhere creating drama and tension.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: Zakilevo on December 06, 2015, 10:52:57 PM
I think it's less fair; it is less IC for a refugee realm to exist. I'm also saying this as someone who played majority on Atamara and sunk a lot of time into the island. I understand it as a concession but I'd rather play the foreigner and build my way again, or band together with my compatriots and take somewhere creating drama and tension.
You can still do that...
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: GundamMerc on December 07, 2015, 02:54:15 AM
You can still do that...

This. There's nothing stopping you from taking the traditional emigration route.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: BarticaBoat on December 07, 2015, 06:20:29 AM
This. There's nothing stopping you from taking the traditional emigration route.

No, the issue to me is players on those islands have to deal with this random transplant that is difficult to place IC. I don't know the geography of EI very well but a new realm in Gelene? There was history there. There was a story. It took us months originally to take and hold Gelene. Allowing a new realm to just bam spring up feels so wrong to me.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: Zakilevo on December 07, 2015, 06:30:19 AM
No, the issue to me is players on those islands have to deal with this random transplant that is difficult to place IC. I don't know the geography of EI very well but a new realm in Gelene? There was history there. There was a story. It took us months originally to take and hold Gelene. Allowing a new realm to just bam spring up feels so wrong to me.

Just RP something like people who fled other two continents arrived in Gelene or something. Lands randomly sinking doesn't make sense either and not everything has to make sense either as well.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: GundamMerc on December 07, 2015, 08:21:56 AM
No, the issue to me is players on those islands have to deal with this random transplant that is difficult to place IC. I don't know the geography of EI very well but a new realm in Gelene? There was history there. There was a story. It took us months originally to take and hold Gelene. Allowing a new realm to just bam spring up feels so wrong to me.

Someone's got a rod up their ass.
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: James on December 07, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
No, the issue to me is players on those islands have to deal with this random transplant that is difficult to place IC. I don't know the geography of EI very well but a new realm in Gelene? There was history there. There was a story. It took us months originally to take and hold Gelene. Allowing a new realm to just bam spring up feels so wrong to me.

It happens to be where a load of refugees landed and they got inside the city before the hordes noticed them. It's a realm simply because it has a name, it's certainly not a secure and safe one. That old realm was lost to the monsters, this new one is trying to be reclaimed from them by a bunch of nobles who just found themselves there when they landed in their new home...
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: James on December 07, 2015, 09:38:48 AM
I was the original ruler of Itorunt (and Omsk)... The world changes in unexpected ways at times, and we just have to deal with it (and doing it IC is much more fun than OOC...)
Title: Re: Exciting times
Post by: JDodger on December 07, 2015, 09:21:06 PM
I would have preferred for refugees to land in established realms and have to form political ties with their realm mates toward forming new realms. Would have been more interesting for all involved and possibly caused new reasons for conflict among (and within) established realms as various factions competed over the cities.

The way it's being done is really not so bad though.