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BattleMaster => Locals => East Island => Topic started by: Kellaine on May 01, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
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Once again Fontan is object of a 3 on 1 gang bang. Can no one fight us 1 on 1 and hope to win? It takes 3 realms to beat us.
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Stop pissing off so many people at the same time. It's not a gang-bang when you bring it on yourself.
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Stop pissing off so many people at the same time. It's not a gang-bang when you bring it on yourself.
How did we piss them off, by winning a war against Westmoor that they started? Caligus is just an opportunist. Perdans involvement I understand. Westmoor started the war and when they were obviously going to lose they called for their puppet masters to come help. At least that is understandable.
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The funny thing is that caligus was pissed off because we supposedly were harboring one of Ibby's nobles and when that noble decided to leave Fontan rather than cause another war, Caligus declared war. I am assuming because we did not ban her but let her leave on her own.
the only thing I can think of that pissed Perdan off was us winning the war against Westmoor.
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Of course it does not help that our chancellor keeps everyone in the dark about what is said on the rulers channel and what he is doing. He ignores the Fontan assembly for the most part. Too bad the dev team did not deport him too.. lol
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When I was in Fontan there were a couple CoI nobles, as well as a priest. That alone was enough to invite war. Plus whatever Sextus does, and never tells anyone. If you don't like it, elect someone else.
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When I was in Fontan there were a couple CoI nobles, as well as a priest. That alone was enough to invite war. Plus whatever Sextus does, and never tells anyone. If you don't like it, elect someone else.
I am not sure of the COI nobles. I do not know who they are. but the Ibby priests have all left Fontan. As far as electing a new Chancellor, this coming election is the first time we have had the chance to (without his clan friends). Not sure if Zadek will run or not. He is the only one that stand a chance of winning.
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Can no one fight us 1 on 1 and hope to win?
You mean like when Sirion obliterated you just recently?
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Umm We beat Fontan 1v1? I mean it wasn't even 1v1 it was 2v1 for Sirion. Crushed Fontan and demolished SoA. And now Fontan is asking for Sirion's help. How thick is your skin?!
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Should this e-peen competition not be in the EC sub-forum?
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It is.
:P
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It is.
:P
Thanks
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Umm We beat Fontan 1v1? I mean it wasn't even 1v1 it was 2v1 for Sirion. Crushed Fontan and demolished SoA. And now Fontan is asking for Sirion's help. How thick is your skin?!
You mean the 5 on 2 against Fontan and SOA. And SOA could not help Fontan out much at all.
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5 on 2 against Fontan and SoA? When did this happen? How many years ago?
I saw 2 on one for SoA and 1 on 1 for Sirion/Fontan.
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You mean the 5 on 2 against Fontan and SOA. And SOA could not help Fontan out much at all.
5 on 2? What are you talking about? Sirion had to fight Westmoor and Fontan at the same time while SoA was keep harassing our northern regions. OI was barely keeping SoA down. Stop crying about being gangbanged. It was Fontan's fault :P Failed Diplomacy.
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Well, we had:
Fontan, Sultanate
vs
Sirion, Old Rancagua, Obsidian Islands, Perdan, and Confederacy of Fontan
And wasn't Caligus also helping CoF (although "help" is debatable at at that point, I think.)
Perdan left the war after Westmoor duchy was captured and seceded to form Westmoor.
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And how many years ago was that? lol
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Why are we copy pasting threads now?
Are we that bored?
peace!
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WTF are you talking about?
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And how many years ago was that? lol
That was the war that founded Westmoor. I'm a bit surprised you don't even know the history of the realm you've ruled for so long... ???
It was around the middle of 2008.
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Psst. I know the history. I'm implying that if that particular war is what katayanna is talking about, it's irrelevant to recent in-game memory.
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In the overall scheme of things, that *is* relevant. The last battles of that war were fought less than a year ago. And you can bet that the rulers of the realms around you know that history. ][osferatu of Perdan remembers wars much, much older than that, and those wars shape his outlook and goals in the current wars. So does Dobby.
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The last battles of which were for a long time four/five on one, the one being Sirion?
You can't really complain about getting taken down by multiple realms when you plot to do the exact same things for others.
Wonder why this forum didn't show your post as "new"...
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The sides in that war did change a lot. But even at its worst, it wasn't really a gang-bang. It really took all those realms to take on Fontan. They really were that good. And then when things changed, it really took all those realms to take on Sirion, and they still won.
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Sirion definitely has geography more on its side, at least compared to Fontan. That helped tip the balance in Sirion's favor during that war. If Fontan was in a truly defensible position? I doubt they'd have really needed to get people to swap sides to attack Sirion.
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Fontan is bad at Diplomacy I guess. We need better Ambassadors and better Rulers obviously ::)
It would be interesting to hear Perdan/Caligus take on this war. Perdan being motherland of Westmoor, it doesnt surprise much. Caligus? Not a sound of wolves coming, that what my character Brock in Fontan see IC :P
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You realize that Caligus founded Westmoor along with Perdan, yes?
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Caligus will probably found a new colony.
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You realize that Caligus founded Westmoor along with Perdan, yes?
Oh, but my character Brock does not know that IC. So I just play him along ;)
Caligus will probably found a new colony.
Yeah, this I agree. Caligus already hold Fontan city. Being the nearest neighbor with big stick, Caligus sure will found a new colony next door to the mighty sleeping World War II U.S.A a.k.a. Sirion 8)
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If Fontan was in a truly defensible position? I doubt they'd have really needed to get people to swap sides to attack Sirion.
Fontan did not get people to switch sides. They had nothing to do with it. Here's how it went down:
When Westmoor was founded, they declared neutrality and an intent to stay out of the war. Fontan, smartly, accepted and signed peace treaties and declared friendship with Westmoor. Perdan declared that their objective in the war was achieved, and stepped back. (Although we did smash the crap out of the Sultanate a time or two, due to insults delivered by the Sultanate toward Perdan. It is a tribute to the incompetence of OR and OI that the Sultanate survived. We smashed them down until they had only their capital, with no recruiting centers, then left. SoA came right back and crushed OR and OI both. Kudos to SoA for kicking ass.)
What turned Westmoor and Perdan against Sirion was Sirion's stupidly clumsy attempt to get Westmoor to backstab Fontan.
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Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies... However, I believe Westmoor will just get Oberndorf and Commonyr as new regions and Caligus will get the rest.... Maybe a new duchy, eh?
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Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies... However, I believe Westmoor will just get Oberndorf and Commonyr as new regions and Caligus will get the rest.... Maybe a new duchy, eh?
Nope, Sorry. Westmoor will just go back to their original borders. Nivemus will get Oberndorf and Caligus will get the rest.
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Nivemus should get Oberndorf... If you want to talk history, the region belongs to either Old Rancagua, Sirion, or Fontan. Jor has been trying to say Westmoor has a claim but we all know it's BS. :P
Also, to go back to Sirion vs Fontan, several factors went into making Sirion a powerhouse that could withstand 5 realms. First was geography. Second, stupid tactics(seriously? You are going to attack Trinbar again and not go up through Avamar? How predictable... :P). Third the fact they were heavily bolstered by war-lusty nobles and former Old Rancaguan nobles. Lastly, because coordinating five realms across nearly the entire continent is a difficult thing to manage at best, and even harder when two of the stronger ones are so far South they can only come every other week.
That, in a nutshell, is how Sirion withstood the onslaught and later used that momentum to turn the tide of the war. Other factors were of course involved, but those were the big ones.
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Plus, like, I think Westmoor had more rebellions than actual battles, heh.
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Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies...
There is no need to be mean, dude.
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Plus, like, I think Westmoor had more rebellions than actual battles, heh.
Its been three years since a Monarch stepped down entirely voluntarily.
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...that's how long Westmoor has existed, afaik D:
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...that's how long Westmoor has existed, afaik D:
Westmoor's first Queen, Evangeline Uceek, stepped down voluntarily.
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The last completely voluntary abdication was Merewyn (our third ruler), who stepped down on 9 May 2009, almost exactly three years ago. Since then we've had two Monarchs overthrown in rebellion (Micna and Scheckyos), two protested out of office (Jor during his first reign and Flaylen), and two who abdicated while the Lords were grumbling about them (Corwin and Maedros/I).
I'll admit, the last two are streching the definition of involuntary a bit, but it sounds better that way ;D
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I think Oligarch had control of Oberndorf at one point. Till Fontan became almighty and took it.
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I think Oligarch had control of Oberndorf at one point. Till Fontan became almighty and took it.
Oligarch did have control of it a long time ago, I believe. But then they were smashed and Sirion actually took command of the region for a long time with the infamous Duke Doc Primus ruling Oligarch. Then the Great War eventually started and Oberndorf switched hands from Sirion, Old Rancagua, and Fontan for a long time until the Sultanate was created and Old Rancagua, being attacked on two fronts, lost control of their Southern regions. After that, Oberndorf was either rogue or Fontanese.
And, either way, It doesn't matter. Oberndorf has more ties to Nivemus(some Old Rancaguan ties) and Sirion(former owner) than Oligarch has had recently and certainly more than Westmoor, which the only tie to the realm Oligarch is the city.
That being said, I think Westmoor will end up with Commonyr. The rest will probably go to Caligus one way or another.
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Excluding the Oligarchian nobles we had at founding, including one former Oligarch leader who later became Queen of Westmoor and until recently was Countess of Greatbridge?
And the time Westmoor held Oberndorf and Commonyr under its flag?
The idea of Westmoor started as a restoration of Oligarch. Those were the very words used by Eva Uceek/Kylie. We have as much right to claim lineage from Oligarch as Nivemus has for OR.
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Why complain about a 3 v 1 war when your realm can pull up a 25k army out of mid-air... Just go ahead and pull a 50k army and destroy all of them at the same time... It's definitly possiby for Fontan considering they pull out 25k armies... However, I believe Westmoor will just get Oberndorf and Commonyr as new regions and Caligus will get the rest.... Maybe a new duchy, eh?
Who say we are pulling rabbit out of the hat? I thought I already hint many of you, if you destroy Fontan mobile strength, they are as good as dead. Good luck in trying at that time :P
Caligus will found a new colony realm together with Westmoor. That what my oracle told me ;)
Hmm, now where should Fontan nobles seek refugee in? Obsidian island perhaps, they need nobles ::)
There is no need to be mean, dude.
Thanks. Sometime we all need to be reminded :)
Peace everyone!
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Excluding the Oligarchian nobles we had at founding, including one former Oligarch leader who later became Queen of Westmoor and until recently was Countess of Greatbridge?
And the time Westmoor held Oberndorf and Commonyr under its flag?
The idea of Westmoor started as a restoration of Oligarch. Those were the very words used by Eva Uceek/Kylie. We have as much right to claim lineage from Oligarch as Nivemus has for OR.
How many of those people do you still have?
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Two (Khorn and Merewyn).
Mind you, if anyone asks me, its silly to pretend that who-ruled-what years ago will have anything to do with the end result. "The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"
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Two (Khorn and Merewyn).
Mind you, if anyone asks me, its silly to pretend that who-ruled-what years ago will have anything to do with the end result. "The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"
Agreed. People do what they do no matter who 'claims' the region.
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Agreed. People do what they do no matter who 'claims' the region.
And this is why Nivemus will get Oberndorf :)
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And this is why Nivemus will get Oberndorf :)
Your wish has been granted. Anymore wish? :P
My character Brock is in Caligus prison for almost a week now during our little raid cocktail party at Caligus land. Lost his Banker position, receive a surprise letter from Caligus Judge. Oh, well. Fontan about to close shop soon, by the time my character will be free :-\
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R.I.P Fontan?
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And there was much rejoicing.
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Sirionites holding 'Bye Fontan Forever' Party! Join in people! Only 20 gold per person!
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If I pay extra, can I duke Krimml? (My grammar are perfect)