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Atamara / Re: Dear Atamara...
« on: October 27, 2015, 07:54:11 PM »
So your family name is worth more to you than the health of the game? You'd let the entire island go to hell in a handbasket because, hey, I have to protect my character's family name!

Well, too many people have been patient for too long while waiting for someone else to do something. Now we're all screwed.

Its all about trust when you are sitting on a throne, if you mess things up you will spoil the fun for the players within your realm and fun is whats its all about.  Back when I was a ruler I probably pissed off every single realm on Atamara  and a few other realms on different continents as well by either playing it safe or by actually doing whats expected of a ruler in a social experiment focused on war and diplomacy. A stallmate is hard to get out of but it have been done before but never without trust between rulers making up plans.

Waiting for too long was said and yelled back in 2010 and early 2011 I guess... Then the war started, the war that made all other wars look like small skirmishes and it went on for a long long time, I really dont know how it ended as I had a life crises and left the game during a time of chaos. But I can assure you that the stallmate before this war was made out of concrete and no one could see a war coming but it did.

I am not saying that I dont understand your frustration but that I do understand you and that I have been there chewing on my fingers waiting for someone to act or something more exciting to happen at turn then to see how much food arrived to what region!

What I do hope for is when things will change and they will is that those on the losing side of the war doesnt give up their will to play, we lost many players during rough wars when they think that all their time spent in a lost realm is time wasted...

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Atamara / Re: Dear Atamara...
« on: October 26, 2015, 07:47:09 PM »
You have to excuse me, I was under the beleif that I had been gone from this game for a few years but by the sound of it cant be more then a day or two  ???

These alliances with strong unbreakable bonds have always been around and most of them have been broken, all you need to do is to look at the history of Atamara and discover that some are gone forever and some have been reforged.

One reason alliances are hard to break is due to honor or as I used to say "My word is enough no need to get it in writing", going back on your word and stab an ally will stain your family name for a long long time and whatever trust a ruler or realm have gained may be lost for ever. The history have showed us that if you are patient a dagger will be planted in someones back or one or more rulers will make a misstake that will change the diplomatic map.

The name may be BATTLEMASTER but we all want peace at our border and a safe realm...unless we can take our neighbour down without to much fuzz and gain a region or two. Maybe there should be sever punishments to realms that are in peace for two long (been tried) or a boost to realms that can maintain the status of war to one or more realms ?

I do not know a good solution to this dilemma but I have learned that patience is a good virtue to have while on Atamara.

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Development / Re: Special Forces, underpowered?
« on: April 27, 2011, 08:12:29 PM »
I know that the Barony of Makar has two special forces. One has a cavalry charge, so I guess they are special cavalry, and the other...ah, I forget. I think the Mystic Monks may have an artillery feature that does extra damage to fortifications, maybe.

The Barony has in fact three special forces and I know about the two oldest ones and have a pretty good knowledge about their special powers.

Icegate has two centers, Behexed artillery and Mystic monks.
Fiddleford has a new center with for me unknown powers.

Mystic monks are pure melee with increased attack values and  what looks like a charge  they are hard to wipe as well, their special perk is that they do not get penalties when scaling high walls and siege engines only slows them down  ;D

Behexed Artillery is mixed infantry with a range of 5 rows, they sometimes do devastating damage on range but always hit hard in melee.


My experiment with mixing the two above has showed some interesting results with the range dropping from 5  rows to 1 row but they still seam to keep their original strengths. Are we really supposed to be able to mix different kind of sf forces?

For those of you who doesnt know I can tell you that both centers produce troops with 99/99 in armour/weapons but they require a small fortune from the recruiting viking so its not for the common noble. The effects the troops have on the battlefield seam to be heavily depending on their position and stance...

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: April 08, 2011, 06:50:08 PM »
Can someone remind me who was it that said that Atamara was dead and in a gridlock?  :P

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: April 08, 2011, 06:45:46 PM »
Combat has only seriously changed very recently.  Siege engines were around etc.  They only thing that wasn't really was equipment was the same value for def. and off. and cohesion didn't exist.

I can recall population, but can't recall if it actually declined.. erm it was 8 years ago!  There was an option to call out the militia which gave you 800 man units in the capital when it's threatened (still around? not sure).  It was a hell of a fight though.

Eh... recently?

There have been changes to combat several times both directly and indirectly during the last 8 years, cavalry with bows is still my dream even if it would be banned in the Barony due to cultural reasons. I remember when they introduced the marshal system and the confusion that followed, a longer chain of command with weary generals who was used to control the battlefield . What confused me was the absence of squirrels in Shiverwood but I guess Tom had killed them to make way for the northern vikings march towards Brackhead.
To be honest I like that the game changes even if I curse most of the time as most changes is a nerf towards my characters not counting when Zortagh become the richest character ever in the BM history (Taxes almost killed him ) ;)

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 29, 2011, 09:09:56 PM »
Well sadly enough there was a plan :(

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 29, 2011, 11:40:22 AM »
Well, speaking as the General in question at the time I don't recall the way forward with the issue of Mansbridge being made clear by anyone that had more substance than "you can trust MI" which had, over years of war, repeatedly been proven not to be true and in any case was being said by Norland's former allies who had recently betrayed them to side with MI against Norland on the flimsiest of pretexts (in a Norlander's eyes a royal loses his status when he lowers himself to murdering nobles in their sleep and should be treated like any other common criminal).

MI had promised to return Mansbridge to Norland once relations improved but were vague about the terms and refused to clarify them before the treaty was signed. Many in Norland wanted to refuse to sign the treaty until that was rectified because they fully expected MI to renage on this deal but the then King signed anyway. Norland repeatedly tried to raise relations, even offering to feed MI's starving regions but  were met by silence. As MI started to garrison Mansbride and allow their allies' troops to pass through it (against the terms of the peace treaty which forbade any military forces in the region) it looked like they indeed had no intention of honouring the treaty. Given their history of double-dealing and political treachery there was no reason to trust them to.

MI had failed to honour the treaty so Norland took back what had been promised.

MI's new allies then obligingly wiped Norland off the map for them, incidentally gaining much gold and land in the process.

Whatever else was known, believed or talked about outside of Norland this was all that Norlanders saw.

Sure, we could have waited and unspecified amount of time to see if MI might do an about-face and honour their treaty or, when the threat of war in the south faded, use Mansbridge as a staging post for an attack on Norland but standing idle in the face of treachery and threat because it was safer to do so was not Norland's nature. When the question of taking Mansbridge by force was raised the reply came back from all levels of Norland and that reply was "fight!".

I was about to cut your message short but I rather keep it all just to be sure I dont miss out on anything.

Norlanders must have been blind and deaf as the plan was not to have Mansbridge handed over to you but to let the treaty run out and then attack MI in full force making the northern part of MI to fall into Norlands hands once again, MI suspected that and thats why they did fill Mansbridge up with Militia.  The time was specified in the treaty but Norland decided to break in and by doing so the guardians of the treaty had no options then to fulfil their duty. There were no backstabbing at all as the discussion in the rulers channel revealed  all that happened prior to Norlands attack on MI.

Norland had failed to honour the treaty so the guardians of the treaty acted as promised.

I know for a fact that several Norlander knew what happened outside and what was talked about outside of Norland as they were informed by Sordnaz and the former ruler of Caergoth at the time.

None of the allies told Norland to trust Minas Ithil, it was the other way around as we all told Norland to muster for war.

Minas Ithil had no new allies and BoM never became one as it was not in their interest.

There are no defence for Norlands actions at the time except that the common nobles might have been fooled by their ruler and that those who had facts was ignored, at the begining of the war BoM was dancing around in the north doing as little as possible while trying to negotiate with Norland but as that failed the war then turned even uglier and all because Norland broke the treaty.

If its true that the Norland council was unaware about the plans then we all were deceived as we were told many time to wait for the Althing to discuss things before the ruler came back to us when we made the plans to rebuild Norland into the former self.



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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 26, 2011, 10:53:39 AM »
Of course. In the Great Northern Viking Co-prosperity Sphere, all have to march in lock-step with Great Comrade Sordnaz, or else you'll get purged.  ;)

Two steps behind if we are to loot and two steps ahead if we are to visit my mother  ;)

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 25, 2011, 10:55:23 AM »
We can speculate all we want and I sure want as many ideas as possible posted in this thread so I can look back later on and say... what? Not a single one predicted this :)

We have seen wars turning its tide in less then a day before and instead of getting the predicted or so call obvious outcome something happened that no one thought of or the stronger part actually lost due to bad tactics. This war is however a promising one and I am sad that I cant view it from the eyes of a CE player but I guess they must be excited as well now that their strength and cunning will be put to a real test.

As for being able to do a successful CTO, its easy even if the region itself is looted and burnt beyond recognition, just let the one who start the CTO being one from a realm that hasnt looted that much...I guess The Barony will be out of the question ;)

Much can still happen thou and who knows maybe the next colony will be founded in Sale *Sordnaz will however flee with all mead before that happends*

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 25, 2011, 10:45:01 AM »
I'm not mad anymore but for a newer-ish player it was somewhat annoying that the reason was OOC. And your answer sounded a bit fishy. So no I didn't believe you.. but I'm not willing to put that between us as players. I'm a pretty easy going player myself and I apologize for my rude comment that was originally taken the wrong way.

I mean who really enjoys being duped for a their 2nd ever lordship with an OOC reason? Just laying down the facts

I guess it must have been quite a blow even if the OOC reason was an accident, as for easy going...try being a ruler or a hot headed general arguing for a point for a few months and you will find out what rude comments really are about and you will find ways to take deep breaths while biting your tongue only to hug and kiss the next week :) Your comment was in line with your thoughts and it takes so little to make it written and I do not hold it against you as statements that not is clouded or twisted in fancy words actually show how you really feel about things.

Just noticed that one of my little chars is under your command now :D

Anyway, if it would make you feel better your char is welcome to BoM and I will make sure he and Sordie gets in an old fashioned pub brawl ;)

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 25, 2011, 10:31:00 AM »
So YOU are the one who toke my spoons huh? u.u

I think I still hold the title of "the least amount of time as a lord of Melmoor" everytime I was appointed, with two diferent chars, I couldnĀ“t stay more than 2 days as lord.

Hey johnny, one thing that was brought up for us in Norland was that the execution of DA3 was one of the reasons the war against Norland began,  how much weight in this(to attack Norland) decision his execution actually had?

From Sordnaz side it didnt matter at all, DA3 had turned crazy and became a criminal and criminals who got decapitated or whatever deserved their faith and as an educated enlightened royal he should have known better. I remember saying that if Norland was wrong then any royal can use the escape from execution card. As for the treatment of the body afterwards I can only say what sordnaz thought and that is that it was not the body of the former MI ruler but rather the one of a viscious criminals who had forfeited all respect and former glory by becoming the man he did.

There was one reason for the war and one only, Norland should NOT have attacked MI at that point and they knew it, I heard that many new Norland players lacked patience and wanted more action...combine that with lousy leadership and the outcome was devastating. There was plans for a greater Norland to restore its former glory at that time but I guess stalling for a few weeks was not an option  :(

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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 24, 2011, 04:08:32 PM »
Here I must come to the defence of Talerium, they are a totally independent realm and has been so for as long as I can remember.

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 24, 2011, 04:06:35 PM »
In other words you are whining and assuming things calling me a liar...


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Atamara / Re: The Current War
« on: March 24, 2011, 08:25:29 AM »
I have to disagree when it comes to the war having a clear outcome in advance, history tells us otherwise as more then once have unseen things occurred that swayed the winds of war towards the designated winner(s).

The unholy alliance that defeated Hasland was one of the first and it came to be a surprise for all involved when the alliance formed and turned against Hasland, the fall of Norland is also an good example on how things can change as they were to expand by getting regions for free but in the end they killed them self! Anything can happen and all it takes are acts of a new ruler or someone who decides to switch side...

What makes this war fun is that all realms are involved so the possibilities that something will happen is greater then ever before.

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Atamara / Re: Hail Norland!
« on: March 24, 2011, 08:15:10 AM »
My family is from Norland!   ;D But we stole Melmoor away from them and then got OOC-!@#$ed by Sordnaz in the end. It was super-lame as it was only my second lordship  :'(

You really need to get your facts straight before whining on the forum like a little child who dropped his candybar!

The reason Sordnaz attacked Norland was known in advance as he warned Norland to go against their own treaty, other realms told Norland the same including Caergoth but the ruler of Norland decided on a gamble that it was just empty words....it was not. It was all talked about infront of ALL  the rulers in the council before Norland decided to act so if anyone is to blame for the fall of Norland it was their ruler and no one else.

Norland was a few weeks away from expansion but patience was not a virtue known to them I guess as they had to act premature, the plan was simple and understood by all but in the end discarded by Norland for reasons unknown to all but their ruler.

I doubt you can find anyone involved who support your statement as even norlanders have been cursing the actions taken by the incompetent ruler of Norland.

I have never ever used OOC to gain advantage in BM and I can say that you lost all credibility from my part by accusing me of doing so, you lost so suck it up and move on like any man would and dont use silly made up lies to cover up your own failure.

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