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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 05:17:17 AM »
Yea bro, 68 nobles (plus your 27 Saxon fellas) against the 152 of the realms that are actively involved in the war against Aurvandil, not taking on account any Astroist realm. Indeed in 1 vs 1 combat Aurvandil does fine, but thankfully you have been doing awful diplomatic relations.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 03:06:31 AM »
It seems those letters enclose some kind of global strategy according to your words.

Let's skip that pretended refusal to war you've played here for so long. Aurvandil has provoked and has played hard with every realm that has surrounded it. It has profited of betrayal and deflection, and has exploited any imaginable hole in a treaty to its own benefit. It has interfered on the politics and the wars other realms were playing, and it has willingly brought war to the realms it wanted to.

Your complaint has been that once you have "sharpened your swords in the stones of others' Senate houses", you have expected those realms to just nod and sign peace quick as pan, instead of hating your arrogance. Now Falkirk is about to fall, instead of destroying periodically the productivity of your enemy realms, you'll just try to dissolve the members of the Veinsormoot one by one to avoid your armies to face an equal enemy.

"Madina Contingency". I'd really like to see someday how it works on Candiels.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 02:38:17 AM »
A duel to death has been issued and accepted. Let's see what happens.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 02:14:37 AM »
Quote
Orders from Lychaon Abdheran   (31 minutes ago)

Message sent to: Eachann Fohl
Sir Eachann,

After all this time fighting within us, is that your sense of loyalty to our realm? Is to keep your region and privileges more important to you than honour? Or has it all been a finely performed farce of an Aurvandilian spy? Our Boetarch and me have trusted you as Vice-Marshal of the Sacred Legion of Maroccia, and our Senate has given you the government of Twainwood; is that how you pay the Republic of Barca in exchange?

Now you have decided your path,  show what you are!
Lychaon Abdheran
Senator of Nark
Marshal of Sacred Legion of Maroccia
____________________________

Letter from Eachann Fohl   (5 minutes ago)

Marshal Lychaon,

I have never liked you and I probably never will. After all the time I have fought for Barca, I came to realize that Barca was not worth to fight for.

I joined Aurvandil on a whim. They crushed my plans, so I thought that I might as well join up with them as we shared goal. So no, I am not a spy. Sorry to disappoint you.

Julius and you trusted me as the Vice-Marshal as there were no other candidate. Same with Twainwood. So much for the trust in my skills or ability.

And do not worry; I will show you what I am capable of.

Until we meet again,
Eachann Fohl
Viscount of Twainwood

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 01:59:29 AM »
How nice... taking under your protective cape all traitors of Dwilight. That's most humanistic. I'm curious to know a little bit about that. Was he a spy or did just suddenly noticed he wanted to be an Aurvandilian after he was elected as Senator of a region and appointed as Vice-Marshal?

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 01:52:51 AM »
Sure mate, he was sooo tired... of fighting against monsters over and over again. In the best of cases he just didn't want to lose his privileges as lord of a region before the takeover succeed, even that meaning to join the enemy and betray the companions who trusted on him.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 24, 2013, 01:48:38 AM »
The story is probably as Penchant says. He wasn't a specially involved player in the realm, but he had been in the realm for long time and got to become Vice-Marshal. Fighting for the survival of a realm is much harder than joining a powerful and overcrowded one and just follow orders from the top. Cowards need to have plenty of fellows around to keep on fighting. At least this time we won't hear any stupidity about "Barcan corruption".

About the Zuma, it's been a while Mendicant said in the forum he had talked with Haktoo to exploit the holes in the pact within Barca and the Zuma Coalition. Seen Falkirk is in its last hours he probably wants to just dissolve Barca before we can mean a significant support to our allies. Well played, and another demonstration of how absurd is hearing talking about honour in battle, chévalerie and such from Aurvandilians.

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Dwilight / Re: Post News Here for our Facebook Page
« on: February 17, 2013, 08:10:18 PM »
The Republic of Barca annexed the last ungoverned regions in the Maroccidens and upper Marwood forest, rising an extension before unknown for this realm.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/834/barcancaptain.jpg

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 11, 2013, 06:56:02 PM »
You want the three regions? Try having Barca ask for them, Mendicant might be more inclined to listen. Demanding gold just to open peace talks is a sure fire way to kill any chance of peace stone dead.

It's been all an awful misunderstanding, it seems Barca forgot to ask for them before the declaration of war. Would Mendicant get deposed  by their servants for not sending them to destroy the enemy realms, but they would be willing to give back these regions? Mendicant can pretend to be "more inclined to listen", but what does it mean?

Maybe last time he was inclined to listen while being absolutely sure he would keep them. What Barca got was time wasted in useless negotiations and an enemy army at the gates of the capital. I'm more inclined to think that the only peace talks will start by the renounce of Barca to the stolen regions. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 09, 2013, 04:25:35 PM »
Is it just a name? Thanks God, I couldn't barely sleep with that on mind!  :D

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 09, 2013, 03:49:06 PM »
The whole "honourable noble" thing where almost every character is a knight in a shiny armor who  always put his honour in front of everything is much more a modern era idealization rather than an actual medieval representation.

In bm people tend to forget that for the most part, knights was just a little more than bandits with horses and steel.


The Aurvandil's "Noblesse Oblige" doesn't seem less historical accurate than the usual way noble characters are played in bm so unless you want to fully reform the way the game is played I don't think it could be considered a SMA violation

I don't think it's been discussed if the supposed honourable manners of the Aurvandilians are accurate to a SMA, they probably are. Maybe it's been discussed if the "honourable noble" thing fits to the way they've performed very often, IC.

I think this debate about SMA in Aurvandil has arisen related to the Cult of Reason, but I wouldn't call it a violation of the SMA. I don't know if the idea for that religion was taken from the reference quoted by Perth, but anyway secularism wasn't a quite definitive characteristic in medieval times.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 05, 2013, 09:12:21 PM »
Barca threatened future war and hostile actions against Aurvandil, whilst insulting the High Sovereign and telling Aurvandil we owed our existence to them and we should do as they say on that basis, yeah that didn't go down well. You can call it absurd, but Aurvandil likes to be SMA about diplomacy, and insulting and threatening a monarch is not something that would have been tolerated by a foreign realm.

I'd really like to see those conversations, from Julius' point of view Mendicant was rather trying to turn every word he said as an insult, while talking to him with disdainful manners. Since you confirmed some time ago your OOC intention to keep the regions on your side, I guess you was just trying to force a situation that allowed you to act feeling insulted. So, you would be able to say "you've insulted the High Sovereing, and failed diplomatically in your attempt to have back your regions", rather than "we're going to keep these regions because our army is much stronger, so don't even try".

It's already a recurrent topic but I think it's not very "SMA about diplomacy" to offer a realm peace and then put a puppet state in its lands. As it isn't either to raid the lands of other realm to help your allies and then offering peace.

Someone who is consequent with his own actions don't do such thing. It can be interpreted as an attempt to have some guarantees that war won't come from that side whilst you don't start it, or just a way to keep civil population calm. If you raid an enemy's lands, or interfere in its politics, what kind of non-imposed peace could you expect?

You've mentioned SMA and also your recently founded indigenous religion, and in my humble opinion a religion called "Cult of Reason" sounds rather a late 18th century philosophical current than a medieval-looking religion. Things like that could make other players think that it's been founded in order to keep the peasants tied to their lords and fight the spreading of other religions, included the Orthodox Astroism. I insist, it's just my opinion.

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Dwilight / Re: The Marrocidenian war
« on: February 05, 2013, 07:37:53 PM »
Well, the Moot has nothing to fear from Aurvandil really. Aurvandil has had ample opportunity to war with the Veinsormoot with the intent to see it destroyed and we've pointedly refused to do so, and refused to escalate hostilities when we thought peace was attainable. Before this entire war happened, Aurvandil was going to march up north and to help Terran and Asylon, but we couldn't do so whilst Barca was threatening future wars. It was never our intention to fight D'Hara or Terran, and it still isn't.

It is absurd to say Barca was the reason for you to not help Terran and Asylon. It was proved that Barca could complain all it would like because of the regions you stole, but nor in diplomatic neither military way it could do anything to get them back. Did you see Barca as a threat? At this point it sounds just ridiculous. And we still have got the Provincia di Fiorenza matter. That was an awful way to prove your good intentions towards Terran and D'Hara.

Falkirk won't fall, I don't know what convinced you they will. You can't harm any part of them that matters, which is Madina Gardens and Madina City (which is why your war policy so far has been a disastrous failure as it involves looting their rurals which had no peasants or production anyway) Aurvandil sells them all their food, and Falkirk has what... a 14kcs mobile army plus militia, plus Aurvandilan support which if we deployed all of our forces right now, is over 30kcs mobile. Which combined is far more than what D'Hara, Fissoa and Luria Nova can combine to send against us, plus Madina Gardens and Madina City have high level fortifications. In months of war Fissoa is further from beating Falkirk than they've ever been, a single Aurvandil raid of Fissoa was more decisive and damaging than any other event in the war.

In "single combat" Fissoa could have beaten Falkirk. And I think you underestimate your enemy if you think a combined force of Fissoa, D'Hara and Luria Nova couldn't put you in a tight spot. Moreover, I don't think you could indefinitely support economically and in food supply Falkirk. You have already squeezed your regions and pushed the peasants to their limits, and maybe a new war declaration from Luria Nova and D'Hara could induce to a civil rebellion.

And if Falkirk does fall? Well they will just rejoin Aurvandil, and I would love to see how powerful we'd become with 90 or so nobles. The best choice for a power balance is to keep Falkirk around, particularly as Falkirk and Aurvandil hold each other in relative contempt due to Falkirk being a Freestate, and Aurvandil being a Monarchy (which, Freestatism decries as tyranny) and as mutual adversaries when it comes to knighthood and Chivalry which will inevitable lead to war just to prove whose chivalry is superior.

Maybe in a short term if Falkirk falls it would be beneficial for you. But your lands can't produce enough gold and food to maintain the army that would correspond to 90 nobles. At some point, they wouldn't just be able to pay their troops, and of course it would help to block the eventual commerce you could have with the current Falkirkian lands. They would have to start using their own family wealth and if there is actually some kind of rivalry between you, maybe they would start to be willing to return to the lands they owned although they were called in a different way and sustained a new realm.

But that's assuming too much. I don't think you will fight the Falkirkians since you have now hostile neighbours in both northern and easter fronts. Things would have to change a lot for that.

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BM General Discussion / Re: BM recruitment thread in another forum
« on: January 28, 2013, 11:51:22 PM »
Thanks!

I'd be glad to take orders for new projects but I'm afraid I have no time currently for that  :( My quarter exams are driving me crazy!

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BM General Discussion / Re: BM recruitment thread in another forum
« on: January 27, 2013, 01:01:35 AM »
I've given some activity to the thread on the Battletech forum  ;)

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