I would bet that Sint, Nothoi, and OG are all very quiet, as none of them are involved in anything right now. Melhed is involved in a big war, so might be most exciting.melhed would be most interesting, thal second.. And other realm that will be exciting; enweil, riombara and fronen..
I would bet that Sint, Nothoi, and OG are all very quiet, as none of them are involved in anything right now. Melhed is involved in a big war, so might be most exciting.
That you are aware of :PAlas, 'tis true. I'm stuck in one of the most boring realms I've ever been in. Nothing happens. None of our leaders ever say much of anything at all. In fact, I had to go to the realm status page to see who three of our four councilors are, because I simply can't remember their names. If it hadn't been for the big controversy with Victus that started the realm off, I probably wouldn't even remember who our ruler was. I've sent a few feelers out to some people in private, but no one seems to want to actually *do* anything...
There seem to be an almost unanimous support for going to Melhed. It makes me suspicious :P Have all others turned inactive and boring? Which realms does Melhed fight then if they are in this big war?
Is the greek theme alive in Nothoi and...OG do they have a greek theme as well?
Sint seemed weird and crazy which is admirable. Have they turned inactive too?
Melhed is warring with Thalmarkin. Its not that much underdog, Thallies has a bit more nobles(or atleast used to have). At beginning Thalmarkin advanced pretty well, but for now there has been few even battles and Melhed has taken back lost regions.
I bet both realms, Thalmarkin and Melhed are fun to play with atleast Thalmarkin is :)
Haha, i am sorry but Thal has 48 nobles. Melhed has 28. I don't see how that's "a bit more nobles". :)
I keep trying to explain this idea that Melhed isn't an underdog. Thal's RCs suck. Suuuuuck. I think it has two good RCs, and they're still not as good as four or five different ones in Melhed. Its infrastructure is still largely in shambles. They have about 2,000 gold more than Melhed, that's true. They also have double the nobles. That's far less gold per noble, to recruit far crappier soldiers. At least ten of Thal's nobles aren't even at the front. Instead, they're busy wandering around the frozen wasteland, putting out monster fires every turn. So much for that noble advantage. Melhed's recruited almost as much mobile CS as Thal has, every time. With half the nobles.
IMO, the only reason Melhed hasn't secured a lasting advantage in this war is strategy and execution.
Oh yeah, good point: Enweil. Join Enweil.
As it looks now I'll join Melhed since so many have pointed me in that direction. If someone wants to change my mind (s)he better do it soon ;D
I keep trying to explain this idea that Melhed isn't an underdog. Thal's RCs suck. Suuuuuck. I think it has two good RCs, and they're still not as good as four or five different ones in Melhed. Its infrastructure is still largely in shambles. They have about 2,000 gold more than Melhed, that's true. They also have double the nobles. That's far less gold per noble, to recruit far crappier soldiers. At least ten of Thal's nobles aren't even at the front. Instead, they're busy wandering around the frozen wasteland, putting out monster fires every turn. So much for that noble advantage. Melhed's recruited almost as much mobile CS as Thal has, every time. With half the nobles.
IMO, the only reason Melhed hasn't secured a lasting advantage in this war is strategy and execution.
Haha, nobody mentioned anything else except "a bit more nobles". And by the way(here comes the real debate), so perhaps you are assuming there are no monsters and infestation in our land? And perhaps you are saying our strategy sucks because we have less nobles and some were quite inactives...hmm. Okay. :)
Look forward to starving you in the next few seasons. ;)
Your strategy sucks because anyone who assessed the situation, instead of convincing themselves of a completely wrongheaded appraisal of the enemy, could've beaten Thalmarkin with your fundamentals. You have inactive nobles? Who doesn't? Arrakis could've beaten Thalmarkin, too, if he had the support of the rest of the hierarchy. Ask anyone else on these forums who plays in Thal. Who's the one person who constantly complained about Melhed's numerous advantages? Me. Someone, or some group, has blown this war for Melhed.
It is quite funny because since the maps were changed, the political map you're given when you're choosing a realm is a little outdated.Please report this on the bug tracker.
Please report this on the bug tracker.
They have also, thus far, held to a higher standard of war,
I call BS but I'm biased
What happened was: Melhed and Thal wrote a treaty for how to fight the war. Melhed ruler broke the treaty and said he didnt give !@#$ about it since he didnt sign it personally. Thalmarkin started to do the exact things that was written in the treaty to avenge Melheds breaking (and execution of Thalmarkian noble). Thal contacted the new ruler of Melhed about the possibility of a new treaty to be written and was ignored.
The only reason Melhed hasnt done the same back is that all fighting is made on their lands (except for 3 Melite nobles looting some rurals in the north) and they cant go around looting themselves without looking remarkably silly.
Was Maya's looting so effective that Sandefur is now a rural? ;)
I don't remember to see any attack against Agyr...
Was Maya's looting so effective that Sandefur is now a rural? ;)
(except for 3 Melite nobles looting some rurals in the north)
Nothoi worships battle mechs...
Battle mechs? Since when?
And I think the problem with the "apathy" is that the regions are taking just to much time to recover after the invasion...it´s been almost an year since it was over and yet most of the regions, at least in Nothoi, are destroyed and not even capable of sustaining infrastructure.
But well, war is coming anyway.
Battle mechs? Since when?
The same way with Enweil. I think Beluaterra could have done with a boost to population, maybe explaining it away as the peasants "celebrating" the end of having to fear for their lives at every moment instead of only once in a while.
The Daishi religion is the worship of "giant armored gods".
Its material is, as I understand it, largely cribbed from BattleTech.
There are two or three conversations going on here that aren't relevant to the OP. Can we nudge these to their relevant threads? :)
New Ruler Elected (7 hours, 12 minutes ago)
message to Everyone on Beluaterra
The realm of Sint has elected Dekion Flockhart as its new Pontifex.
http://battlemaster.org/UserDetails.php?ID=6069
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Same thing that got Shady locked.
This. Read up on Daishi, the more details you find, the more blatant it becomes.
No, they sound like like robots shooting lasers and missiles, nothing else.
"Robots, lasers, and missiles" are not mentioned anywhere in the Daishi religion description. "Giant armored gods, metal javelins, and shafts of lightning" are, however, included in the description. Sounds about in line with descriptions of gods/mythical creatures/magical weapons from Norse, Greek, Roman, and Hindu mythology to name a few, you know since we were actually trying to form a plausible, real-life religion. ::)No, it's really just a think veneer of "it sounds kinda like gods, if you've never heard of where we plagiarized it from" over a blatant rip of BattleTech. Everyone knows it. The people that founded the religion cover their mouths with their hands and chuckle at each other when they think no one is looking.
Indirik - very few religions/realms/characters in Battlemaster did not draw inspiration from some other source.
Hell, one of the daimon invasions was completely ripped out of the Tolkien novels.
Clearly you and Chenier have a major OOC issue with the founding members of Daishi (although I didn't even know you had a character in Beluaterra - never ran across your family name in over 6 years of playing that island), so I don't expect to change your mind. Looks like we will just have to agree that it is your problem.
...most people who aren't fans of Battletech will read the description as similar to Norse or Greek myths.
Indirik - very few religions/realms/characters in Battlemaster did not draw inspiration from some other source.Indeed, they do. And I don't have a problem with that, so long as the result is period appropriate. And, to an extent, that they acknowledge what they're doing, and not try to pass it off as original, or inspired by something completely different.
Hell, one of the daimon invasions was completely ripped out of the Tolkien novels.As with Anaris, I'd really like to hear how you came up with that. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd just like to hear your reasons why you think this.
Clearly you and Chenier have a major OOC issue with the founding members of DaishiI have no idea who founded the religion. I couldn't even tell you the names of any characters that are followers of Daishi. So the idea that I have a problem with the founders... not gonna fly. My only objection to Daishi is their blatantly ripped Battletech inspiration, that no one even attempted to disguise. If whoever made it had tried harder to disguise it's origins, you could make something good out of it. Giant armored gods fighting evil? Sounds like a great core concept for a crusader religion, or a war god mythology, etc. Just... *try* to not make it a blatant scifi reference.
(although I didn't even know you had a character in Beluaterra - never ran across your family name in over 6 years of playing that island)...is this the part where I'm supposed to attack your relevance and credibility in return?
Hey now, what's the difference between giant robots and an all-knowing man in the sky?
The difference is one is medieval, one is modern/futuristic.
Well from what I can see the Daishi page doesn't even have anything futuristic. It's just about an ancient struggle between good and evil and the insignificant duty of humans. Maybe it comes from Battletech but I don't know Battletech and I think it's a perfectly acceptable theology for medieval times.
So if it's in terms characters can understand and relate to their actual surroundings, what does it matter that players know that it's inspired on some futuristic crap?
Sure maybe it could've been less blatantly obvious...Which is, IMHO, all that needs to be done to make it more acceptable. Make it not so blatant a total rip of a scifi game.
Which is, IMHO, all that needs to be done to make it more acceptable. Make it not so blatant a total rip of a scifi game.
And if you're to ignore the "fluff", you may as well just join another religion altogether.
Dude, you're being an uptight jerk about this, just thought I'd let you know. We've had blatant rip-offs of other religions in this game, such as The Way of the Hammer and others.And again... I don't care if it's a blatant rip-off, so long as it's period appropriate. For example, the religion of Quintarianism that Anaris started in Riombara. It's a direct copy of the religion Lois McMaster Bujold created for her Chalion series. It's a direct copy, but it's period appropriate.
If you don't like the religion, fine, but don't go around bashing the players who made it and those who choose to have characters involved in it. They take the game just as seriously as you do, so talking about them "covering their mouths and snickering" in regards to the religion is just being an !@#$%^& towards those people.Maybe I was a little harsh. But that's what it feels like to me.
You've always had a huge hate-boner for this religion
For the record, the elves are also lame and all references to them should be expunged from both the game and the wiki.
Please don't practice thread necromancy for no good reason.