It would be nice if Kings could set a share of their income to give to the Banker (so it can act like a real treasurer), General (funding troops and what not) and/or Judge (you've gotta pay the mob :P).
So, for example King A has 50% realm share, which gives him 1000 gold. He sets 5% to the Judge (50 gold), 20% to the Banker (200 gold) and 25% to the General (250 gold), keeping 500 for himself. He entrusts the General to fund armies, the Banker to fund infrastructure and the Judge to keep chillin'. Or he decides to set all of them to 0% and monopolize the income, why not? If he decides otherwise, though, he can delegate financial tasks while still getting his share.
Quote from: JPierreD on September 27, 2011, 06:05:20 AM
It would be nice if Kings could set a share of their income to give to the Banker (so it can act like a real treasurer), General (funding troops and what not) and/or Judge (you've gotta pay the mob :P).
So, for example King A has 50% realm share, which gives him 1000 gold. He sets 5% to the Judge (50 gold), 20% to the Banker (200 gold) and 25% to the General (250 gold), keeping 500 for himself. He entrusts the General to fund armies, the Banker to fund infrastructure and the Judge to keep chillin'. Or he decides to set all of them to 0% and monopolize the income, why not? If he decides otherwise, though, he can delegate financial tasks while still getting his share.
Has this changed with the new estate system? Cause otherwise you can already set realm share percentages for all council positions.
Quote from: De-Legro on September 27, 2011, 06:25:17 AM
Has this changed with the new estate system? Cause otherwise you can already set realm share percentages for all council positions.
Currently the banker sets these percentages. JP is saying that now the ruler gets a nice income, he should be able to disperse it to his council.
This would be a nice feature I admit but the ruler can already do this manually.
Quote from: Shane "Shenron" O'neil on September 27, 2011, 06:51:42 AM
Currently the banker sets these percentages. JP is saying that now the ruler gets a nice income, he should be able to disperse it to his council.
This would be a nice feature I admit but the ruler can already do this manually.
Manual transfers are tedious and boring.
Yes, this has changed. There is no longer any share for the government positions.
You can do it manually, but that forces the King to stay near a bank every tax day, and it ends in giving bonds, not cash, forcing the receivers to stay near a bank too. If you can make it automatically you can have a less-micromanaging system which can even work as an excuse for rulers to tax dukes and grab power.
Right now there is no such thing. But there is one that is prepared, but not yet done.
At this moment the duke has two sources of income, the duchy taxes and income from his region. It used to be that the income from the region would be taxed by the duchy taxes. And that the duchy taxes would be taxed by the realm.
With the new system it's duchy taxes from all but the dukes region + the dukes region income = total income duke and that's taxed by the realm. Is this intentional?
Quote from: D`Este on September 27, 2011, 10:06:36 AM
At this moment the duke has two sources of income, the duchy taxes and income from his region. It used to be that the income from the region would be taxed by the duchy taxes. And that the duchy taxes would be taxed by the realm.
With the new system it's duchy taxes from all but the dukes region + the dukes region income = total income duke and that's taxed by the realm. Is this intentional?
From my understanding this is very intentional and is one of the reason a ruler may want to break up an overly powerful duchy.
king taxes (and then keeps for himself) a duke's total income. which could be a combo of the duke's estate, if he has one, the duke's region, if he has one, and what the duke taxes his lords
at least that's the theory i've read so far
Fodder is correct. Whatever finally goes into someone's pocket is what is taxed by the next person up the line. It' doesn't matter where the gold comes from on tax day. If you get 100 gold, and the next person up the line sets a 5% tax rate on you, then you pay him 5 gold.
Quote from: fodder on September 27, 2011, 10:29:14 AM
king taxes (and then keeps for himself) a duke's total income. which could be a combo of the duke's estate, if he has one, the duke's region, if he has one, and what the duke taxes his lords
at least that's the theory i've read so far
The king receives a percentage of the dukes income, plus he could also be a duke, see below for details. He does NOT receive income DIRECTLY from "duchies", but rather from the DUKE(s) of his realm.
Same thing with dukes--they tax the region lords beneath them, and they can also be a region lord. See below for details.
Region lords tax the estates of their region, and they can also have an estate. see below for details.
Estates tax the peasants. Estate taxes are pooled with maintenance/guild taxes/trade balance added, then redistributed according to estate size.