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Title: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on December 14, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
Cant use new map on the phone :(
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Anaris on December 14, 2011, 04:55:42 PM
What phone?
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Chenier on December 14, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
Perhaps the "political map" could become the old "dynamic map"? The advanced features of the new map are cool, but the old one is neat and simple.

Can you even access region pages with the new one? That's all I ever used it for, and I can't seem to click on regions anymore.

Btw, scout reports now centre on your region instead of the region that was scouted...
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Bael on December 14, 2011, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Chénier on December 14, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
Perhaps the "political map" could become the old "dynamic map"? The advanced features of the new map are cool, but the old one is neat and simple.

I would also like to see the old map still appear. Perhaps as a "simple" map, whilst the current can remain as the dynamic one.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Indirik on December 14, 2011, 08:02:42 PM
Quote from: Chénier on December 14, 2011, 06:27:00 PMCan you even access region pages with the new one? That's all I ever used it for, and I can't seem to click on regions anymore.
Not yet, but this functionality is planned.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on December 14, 2011, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Glaumring on December 14, 2011, 04:55:10 PM
Cant use new map on the phone :(

Details, please.

While the OpenLayers library is a little heavy, it definitely works on mobile devices.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Chenier on December 14, 2011, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: Bael on December 14, 2011, 07:59:14 PM
I would also like to see the old map still appear. Perhaps as a "simple" map, whilst the current can remain as the dynamic one.

Does anyone ever use the static political map, anyways? Dynamic was basically the same, except you could click for more details, and often the political one wouldn't update often enough. I would definately rather keep the old dynamic map than the old political map, though mind you I guess it can be useful for archival purposes.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on December 14, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
Iphone, map wont load at times, slow and cumbersome to zoom map. I like the old map to quickly see nations . New map buttons way to small for phone and it loads all jumbled.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on December 14, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
It works just fine on my iPad. However, I have not yet added touch recognition. OpenLayers supports touch, theoretically, but I'm not yet using it.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Lorgan on December 14, 2011, 09:40:36 PM
The political map is just for seeing other continents. :)
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on December 14, 2011, 09:50:32 PM
It was easier to add than I thought. Try it now, touch navigation via drag and pinch now works on my iPad as well as my iPhone.

Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Vellos on December 15, 2011, 04:24:42 AM
Quote from: Lorgan on December 14, 2011, 09:40:36 PM
The political map is just for seeing other continents. :)

I use it for that quite a bit.

Also if you're downloading the map image for records-keeping.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Glaumring the Fox on December 15, 2011, 06:05:38 AM
Its working a bit better, I am still getting used to it and preferred the fast load up of the original. Don't get me wrong I love this map on my laptop, it's just a bit pinched on the iphone.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on December 17, 2011, 02:17:19 PM
I agree, bring back the old dynamic map.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on December 17, 2011, 03:48:29 PM
I second this motion. Use the old dynamic map for the political map. That way we have an option for our mobile devices that is up-to-date and loads quickly.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on December 17, 2011, 04:15:39 PM
Interesting how this new D-map lets people on Dwilight see exactly which regions belong to (rogue) and which regions belong to Zuma Coalition. I guess some people's curiosities are finally satisfied or something.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on December 17, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
Quote from: Artemesia on December 17, 2011, 04:15:39 PM
Interesting how this new D-map lets people on Dwilight see exactly which regions belong to (rogue) and which regions belong to Zuma Coalition. I guess some people's curiosities are finally satisfied or something.

I didn't realize that was still a secret. I thought by now they'd have scouted it out.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on December 17, 2011, 07:05:06 PM
It's probably not. Then again, that makes me wonder why we still can't access info about (rogue) and Zuma Coalition regions like we can for human realms if they're not a secret. I mean, I can't even see details about regions...even for the region that I'm a knight and steward for, lol.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: egamma on December 17, 2011, 07:06:51 PM
Quote from: Tom on December 17, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
I didn't realize that was still a secret. I thought by now they'd have scouted it out.

I think the lands of the Zuma are well-known to those bordering the Zuma--problably not so much for those in Storm's End.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: megs on December 18, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
Before this map, I had no idea which land were rogue and which Zuma.
I don't think that even their neighbours new with 100% certainty...
They could try to track region takeover messages, but you are not guaranteed to receive one.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on December 18, 2011, 05:20:27 PM
I once asked Mr. Tom on the IRC thing what about the daimons over in the west. He replied with something that sounded of the form "There are stories of things". And so folk tales are revealed to be true in some form. Therefore now no more is there the veil. Miss Blue is going around to fight mountains.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on December 18, 2011, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: egamma on December 17, 2011, 07:06:51 PMI think the lands of the Zuma are well-known to those bordering the Zuma--problably not so much for those in Storm's End.

You'd be surprised at how much the Duke of Storms End's duchy knows about the Zuma.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on December 18, 2011, 10:00:41 PM
Does anyone other than the GM actually know anything about the Zuma? I somehow have reservations about claiming as such.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: egamma on December 19, 2011, 02:15:40 AM
Quote from: Vaylon Kenadell on December 18, 2011, 09:49:30 PM
You'd be surprised at how much the Duke of Storms End's duchy knows about the Zuma.

Pick a random other region in the north-east then.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Bael on December 20, 2011, 07:27:15 PM
Quote from: megs on December 18, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
Before this map, I had no idea which land were rogue and which Zuma.
I don't think that even their neighbours new with 100% certainty...

Actually, I believe that they did. Just needed to be in contact with Terran to know.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: pcw27 on December 25, 2011, 05:09:36 AM
Also what's with the "geography" option. It seems to just display a different but similar map.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on January 11, 2012, 09:50:45 AM
For those who still care - the "political map" (which had been broken for a while anyways) now is the old dynamic map. So you can have both. At least for the moment.

Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Shizzle on January 11, 2012, 10:21:07 AM
Perfect.

With the old map, you used to be able to click regions to get the details. Will this be included in the new map as well?
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Indirik on January 11, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
As soon as we figure out how to do it. Tim was working on it yesterday, but wasn't able to get it working.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tan dSerrai on January 11, 2012, 09:08:16 PM
First - I love the new map.

And now that the 'political map' once again gives access to regional info and scribe notes I am (back) in heaven. One of my chars is a marshal and for planing anything conected to the military the (old) dynamic map with its scouting notes was a huge help. (Note: I still remember my ecstasy when the dynamic map was introduced for the first time).

So /thanks/ for adding the scribe notes and regional info to the Political Map!
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Indirik on January 20, 2012, 09:24:29 PM
Tom, can we get the default options for the Dwilight version of the dynamic map adjusted? The options that would make it usable would be:

Base layer: Full map
Overlays: Realms and/or Flags

Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: fodder on January 20, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
my biggest gripe with it is you can't click on the region to see reports/region details.

... granted the old map is the new political map.. but still
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on January 20, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Quote from: Indirik on January 20, 2012, 09:24:29 PM
Tom, can we get the default options for the Dwilight version of the dynamic map adjusted? The options that would make it usable would be:

I'll change it globally
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: De-Legro on January 21, 2012, 02:16:57 AM
Quote from: fodder on January 20, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
my biggest gripe with it is you can't click on the region to see reports/region details.

... granted the old map is the new political map.. but still

Yeah we know, it is coming it just isn't very simply to get working.
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: fodder on January 21, 2012, 12:28:40 PM
did anyone notice 2 layers of names in the new map if you select names to be displayed? (looks like only region names atm?) the words are not in the same position... so it's a bit funny
Title: Re: Bring back old dynamic map
Post by: Tom on January 21, 2012, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: fodder on January 21, 2012, 12:28:40 PM
did anyone notice 2 layers of names in the new map if you select names to be displayed? (looks like only region names atm?) the words are not in the same position... so it's a bit funny

That's because you have the "details" layer shown, which already contains names - same for region borders. Change to the "geo" layer and you'll see what I mean.