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BattleMaster => Helpline => Topic started by: GoldPanda on December 25, 2011, 09:51:53 AM

Title: Question on how FTOs work
Post by: GoldPanda on December 25, 2011, 09:51:53 AM
Currently, on Atamara, Eston is running a friendly takover of Meneriel. However, the situation does not conform with my understanding of how FTOs work.

Here is the context: The Cagilan Empire recently took Meneriel from Eston via a BTO. There were still some retreated Estonite peasant militia around after Cagilan and allied Talerium forces retreated. A single Estonite knight entered Meneriel afterward, and was defeated by a straggler Talerium knight still in the region.

So the troops in Meneriel are:

25 Eston peasant militia, retreated
15 Eston infantry, led by a knight, retreated
45 Talerium infantry, led by a knight, stationary

The region is currently owned by Cagilan Empire.

However, scout reports now show an Estonite FTO running on Meneriel. This seems strange to me because:

1. 15 troops should not be enough to start a TO. I know that FTOs require fewer troops to start, but 15 men seems way too low.

2. I thought scattered/retreated units cannot start TOs.

Assuming that this is not a new bug, what's the trick to doing this? How do you start a FTO in a region with just 15 retreated troops?
Title: Re: Question on how FTOs work
Post by: De-Legro on December 25, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: GoldPanda on December 25, 2011, 09:51:53 AM
Currently, on Atamara, Eston is running a friendly takover of Meneriel. However, the situation does not conform with my understanding of how FTOs work.

Here is the context: The Cagilan Empire recently took Meneriel from Eston via a BTO. There were still some retreated Estonite peasant militia around after Cagilan and allied Talerium forces retreated. A single Estonite knight entered Meneriel afterward, and was defeated by a straggler Talerium knight still in the region.

So the troops in Meneriel are:

25 Eston peasant militia, retreated
15 Eston infantry, led by a knight, retreated
45 Talerium infantry, led by a knight, stationary

The region is currently owned by Cagilan Empire.

However, scout reports now show an Estonite FTO running on Meneriel. This seems strange to me because:

1. 15 troops should not be enough to start a TO. I know that FTOs require fewer troops to start, but 15 men seems way too low.

2. I thought scattered/retreated units cannot start TOs.

Assuming that this is not a new bug, what's the trick to doing this? How do you start a FTO in a region with just 15 retreated troops?

There is some cases for automatic FTO's carried out by rebellious regions. This is most likely the case.
Title: Re: Question on how FTOs work
Post by: Bedwyr on December 25, 2011, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: De-Legro on December 25, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
There is some cases for automatic FTO's carried out by rebellious regions. This is most likely the case.

I actually just discovered this on FEI, blew my mind.  Control was so bad and there were partisan militias running around that started a FTO all by themselves for rogue.
Title: Re: Question on how FTOs work
Post by: Velax on December 26, 2011, 06:10:10 PM
I was really hoping that FTO by rogue would work, too, but alas, no.