Is there anyway for nobles to send adventurers gold without trading a unique item? I recently performed some scouting of a different realm for my general but he was unable to pay me for the task as he didn't see an option to directly send me gold.
No
Has it ever been thought of being added? If it has and was rejected then why?
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 01:41:18 AM
Has it ever been thought of being added? If it has and was rejected then why?
It was rejected because gold scarcity is an important part of the Advy game. For a adventurer getting top level equipment takes a lot of effort. If nobles could just send them gold, poof there goes the effort.
Perhaps there could be a limit of the gold sent to an adventurer. I did several scoutings of regions around different areas of the realm for my general which was done thinking I was to be paid since he was unaware that I couldn't receive gold from him, which gives me no incentive to do if I plan on staying an adventurer since I don't get gold and my advy I plan on keeping an advy so it seems to me there is no reason to please nobles, obviously not to anger so they don't arrest you but there is no actual reason to please from what I see.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 01:54:22 AM
Perhaps there could be a limit of the gold sent to an adventurer. I did several scoutings of regions around different areas of the realm for my general which was done thinking I was to be paid since he was unaware that I couldn't receive gold from him, which gives me no incentive to do if I plan on staying an adventurer since I don't get gold and my advy I plan on keeping an advy so it seems to me there is no reason to please nobles, obviously not to anger so they don't arrest you but there is no actual reason to please from what I see.
The not beating up part is pretty important. Or arresting you and having you executed.
He might be able to use a guild to pay you, if you are both members and you have the ability to withdraw gold from the guild treasury.
You have a valid point but in this case it was more like a help wanted ad. He sent a message to all the advys and asked for someone willing to complete a dangerous task with pay for him so again if no pay then there is no incentive though I will check out the guild thing, thanks for the help. Though would the banking but with a limit to avoid what you said ever be a thought to add in?
Well, commoner scouts are paid 1 silver per week. I suppose we could set the limit to 10 times that? That would let the noble pay you 10 silver a week. Just a smidgen less than 1 gold.
True but they are fed by the region for free, only have to go one region away, it only takes them an hour for there missions, and travel taxes are not done to them. I pay for taxes to go to some regions/or realms (not sure) which was done during my scouting, I pay 2 silver a day for food, travel quite the distance taking all of my time for 2 days in my task because of there being several regions to visit within the other realm. So I think more than 10 silver is due.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
True but they are fed by the region for free, only have to go one region away, it only takes them an hour for there missions, and travel taxes are not done to them. I pay for taxes to go to some regions/or realms (not sure) which was done during my scouting, I pay 2 silver a day for food, travel quite the distance taking all of my time for 2 days in my task because of there being several regions to visit within the other realm. So I think more than 10 silver is due.
My advy pays nothing for food, on account of having no money. Apparently dirt provides all advy nutritional needs.
I know that is possible but do you only do gathering and never hunt? Even then you could sell items you get. I wonder because I don't see adventurers can be broke, kill some monsters or undead and you have money.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 04:39:00 AM
I know that is possible but do you only do gathering and never hunt? Even then you could sell items you get. I wonder because I don't see adventurers can be broke, kill some monsters or undead and you have money.
My advy tends to just stand there, hoping I will give him some attention.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 04:00:39 AMTrue but they are fed by the region for free, only have to go one region away, it only takes them an hour for there missions, and travel taxes are not done to them. I pay for taxes to go to some regions/or realms (not sure) which was done during my scouting, I pay 2 silver a day for food, travel quite the distance taking all of my time for 2 days in my task because of there being several regions to visit within the other realm. So I think more than 10 silver is due.
So, wait, it takes your advy 2 days to do something that a scout can do in an hour, and you want to be paid more than 10 times as much? ;)
We will not be adding ways for nobles to pay advys for work. Advys already have plenty of ways to make money, if they choose to do so.
You say plenty of ways but I only know of 2 gathering items and selling them indivdually or as a unique item if you are lucky and slaying monsters or undead. I do not consider 2 ways to be many. Feel free to correct me if there are more ways.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 04:51:32 AM
You say plenty of ways but I only know of 2 gathering items and selling them indivdually or as a unique item if you are lucky and slaying monsters or undead. I do not consider 2 ways to be many. Feel free to correct me if there are more ways.
Repairing unique items also usually results in payment
Quote from: De-Legro on February 09, 2012, 04:54:28 AM
Repairing unique items also usually results in payment
Yes, when your repairing unique items, the noble need give the item to advy first.
After advy finish repair, advy give back the unique item to noble and noble has option to pay or not to pay.
Another option mentioned in post earlier, is advy joining the guild.
The amount of debts owed, can be increased according to the guild rank.
My last advy have the fortune of joining an advy guild, dedicated to combat all creatures of darkness 8)
Quote from: Indirik on February 09, 2012, 03:15:23 AM
Well, commoner scouts are paid 1 silver per week. I suppose we could set the limit to 10 times that? That would let the noble pay you 10 silver a week. Just a smidgen less than 1 gold.
Wait what? my scouts want 1 gold a week.
Quote from: Ketchum on February 09, 2012, 06:09:33 AM
After advy finish repair, advy give back the unique item to noble and noble has option to pay or not to pay.
Well, no. If the noble wants his item back, he
has to pay. He has the option of whether to give a recommendation or not.
Unless he wants to have the advy arrested and the judge take the item off him, but that's a little excessive.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 01:54:22 AM
Perhaps there could be a limit of the gold sent to an adventurer. I did several scoutings of regions around different areas of the realm for my general which was done thinking I was to be paid since he was unaware that I couldn't receive gold from him, which gives me no incentive to do if I plan on staying an adventurer since I don't get gold and my advy I plan on keeping an advy so it seems to me there is no reason to please nobles, obviously not to anger so they don't arrest you but there is no actual reason to please from what I see.
Advies are meant to be poor, there is incentive in trying to become a noble. No commoner in their right mind would choose to stay a commoner instead of becoming a noble.
Quote from: Eithad on February 09, 2012, 06:18:02 AMWait what? my scouts want 1 gold a week.
Your scout is getting too uppity, and needs a beating. :P
Quote from: Velax on February 09, 2012, 06:20:11 AMWell, no. If the noble wants his item back, he has to pay.
Items can be "sold" for a price of 0 gold.
Quote from: Penchant on February 09, 2012, 04:51:32 AM
You say plenty of ways but I only know of 2 gathering items and selling them indivdually or as a unique item if you are lucky and slaying monsters or undead. I do not consider 2 ways to be many. Feel free to correct me if there are more ways.
Those two ways also happen to be the two main focuses of the adventurer game.
You know, the stuff your advy is pretty much expected to be doing 80% of the time.
Quote from: Indirik on February 09, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
Items can be "sold" for a price of 0 gold.
Not what I was referring to. He said nobles could choose to pay or not pay after receiving the item. That isn't the case.
If the general has an item, he can sell it to you for 1 gold, and buy it back for 11 gold.
Of course, I think this is abuse...
Quote from: egamma on February 09, 2012, 08:41:30 PM
If the general has an item, he can sell it to you for 1 gold, and buy it back for 11 gold.
Of course, I think this is abuse...
And I would agree. But then if people are just going to use guilds to handle it, does it really matter?
I like using bounties. Do something for a lord and they can put more gold into the bounty pot for advies.