I've noticed it's posible for a unit with lower CS to perform more hits than one with higher CS.
Also noticed an enemy unit with almost doble your unit's CS can be defeated.
So CS can be misleading?
Quote from: mikm on March 13, 2012, 09:54:35 PM
I've noticed it's posible for a unit with lower CS to perform more hits than one with higher CS.
Also noticed an enemy unit with almost doble your unit's CS can be defeated.
So CS can be misleading?
As the descriptions state, it is an estimate.
I've seen like a unit with around 900 CS do like around 1000 hits and a unit with over 10000 Cs do like under 500 hits.
Or two large units like 8000 CS each can not anihilate a unit with only 400 CS during one battle.
CS takes armour into account (among its factors).
If the only difference between 2 units is that one has 20% armour quality and the other has 90% armour quality, I would hope very much that their CS would be different, and that they do not hit for the same amount of damage.
Quote from: mikm on March 13, 2012, 10:00:27 PM
I've seen like a unit with around 900 CS do like around 1000 hits and a unit with over 10000 Cs do like under 500 hits.
Or two large units like 8000 CS each can not anihilate a unit with only 400 CS during one battle.
That seems, odd. The only units that are going to get to 10k and 8k CS are invaders. I've never seen a invader unit do so little damage.
Quote from: De-Legro on March 13, 2012, 10:51:11 PM
That seems, odd. The only units that are going to get to 10k and 8k CS are invaders. I've never seen a invader unit do so little damage.
Overkill perhaps?
Quote from: JPierreD on March 13, 2012, 11:02:18 PM
Overkill perhaps?
True, but then it would tell you the total hits plus the reduction due to overkill. I would say it is perhaps a unit using a fake CS, but then I thought that only applied to scout reports and the battle report would show the true CS.
Quote from: De-Legro on March 13, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
True, but then it would tell you the total hits plus the reduction due to overkill. I would say it is perhaps a unit using a fake CS, but then I thought that only applied to scout reports and the battle report would show the true CS.
You sure it tells you the total hits plus the reduction? I remember otherwise, but my memory does suck.
It's either that or mikm was talking about diluted damage.
In the hits summary for each round it says something like "100 hits (1,000 before overkill)".
I would have thought it was based on weapon score. A unit with a higher weapon % will do more hits than a unit with the same CS but poorer weapons. Don't heroes also add hits to their unit?
Quote from: Velax on March 14, 2012, 05:45:33 AM
Don't heroes also add hits to their unit?
That is the conjecture. Proving it is damn hard with all the random factors involved in battle though.
Quote from: mikm on March 13, 2012, 09:54:35 PM
I've noticed it's posible for a unit with lower CS to perform more hits than one with higher CS.
Also noticed an enemy unit with almost doble your unit's CS can be defeated.
So CS can be misleading?
CS is an average. As others have said, this can easily be explained by one unit have a much higher defense and lower offense power than the other. On average, they'll be better, but they'll still hit less.
If you are confused now, wait till you see this.
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lefanis_Family/Hericus/Monsters (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lefanis_Family/Hericus/Monsters)
Quote from: Lefanis on March 14, 2012, 03:13:47 PM
If you are confused now, wait till you see this.
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lefanis_Family/Hericus/Monsters (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lefanis_Family/Hericus/Monsters)
That's normal. they were dug in, set to normal, so they stayed in their position for 4 turns, then attacked.