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Title: Public account
Post by: Velax on May 29, 2012, 08:54:36 AM
Does making your account public still give you an extra character slot?
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Perth on May 29, 2012, 09:26:12 AM
I believe so, yes.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on May 29, 2012, 11:29:21 AM
Hi,
I made my profile public a while ago, but I haven't recieved the option of another character.
Do I have to wait for a certain time period till I get the option of creating a new character?
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: egamma on May 29, 2012, 06:43:29 PM
Hi,
I made my profile public a while ago, but I haven't recieved the option of another character.
Do I have to wait for a certain time period till I get the option of creating a new character?

I didn't when I made my information public. Of course, that was 2007/2008...

how long have you had your account? What is your fame?
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on May 29, 2012, 07:25:20 PM
I doubt making your account public makes any difference now.  Feel free to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Cren on May 29, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
+1 for Foundation
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Perth on May 29, 2012, 08:34:05 PM
Oh, well it did when I joined in 2008. *shrug*
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Telrunya on May 29, 2012, 08:47:51 PM
Yeah, but the system changed now. My Public Info is still locked at yes for playing more then 2 characters though, so not entirely sure how it works now (Not that I want to make my info private, but still). Shooting in the dark, but perhaps it won't let you play your third character without making your info public once it's unlocked? I wouldn't know, honestly, and be good to get checked. It might just as well have no effect any more.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: egamma on May 29, 2012, 09:05:04 PM
http://battlemaster.org/useredit.php (http://battlemaster.org/useredit.php)
Public Info?       yes (locked at yes as long as you play more than 2 characters)

Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Chenier on May 30, 2012, 03:26:49 AM
Wasn't there a bug which caused the game not to "remember" that you changed your info to public in order to gain that extra slot? Or maybe I misunderstood what that bug was all about...

Also not sure if the new character limit considers this or not. I have no reason to believe it doesn't, however, save for the comments that precede mine that seem to believe otherwise.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Bael on May 30, 2012, 07:17:46 AM
http://battlemaster.org/useredit.php (http://battlemaster.org/useredit.php)
Public Info?       yes (locked at yes as long as you play more than 2 characters)

I have seen people with three characters who do not have it revealed (due to the new character system I suspect - if they then revealed it, would they get the extra char and have it locked?).

It would be interesting to have someone test it and find out conclusively.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Velax on May 30, 2012, 07:28:59 AM
I have seen people with three characters who do not have it revealed (due to the new character system I suspect - if they then revealed it, would they get the extra char and have it locked?).

It would be interesting to have someone test it and find out conclusively.

I believe that's what Kmap did. He had three characters with his info private, made his info public, didn't get an extra character and now, I assume, he can't make his info private again if he wanted.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on May 30, 2012, 02:42:43 PM
Counter example: http://battlemaster.org/UserDetails.php?ID=33094
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: egamma on May 31, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
Counter example: http://battlemaster.org/UserDetails.php?ID=33094

Making your information public gives you an additional slot--you can earn others in different ways. Perhaps there is a bug in changing your mind about it.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on May 31, 2012, 07:14:39 PM
Are you sure it gives you an additional slot? ;)
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: ^ban^ on May 31, 2012, 08:32:37 PM
Are you sure it gives you an additional slot? ;)

Unless it has been changed since the system was implemented, yes. And the wiki reflects that as well. If this is no longer true, then say so, and update the wiki. Don't play cat and mouse with something like this.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on May 31, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
I'm asking because no one has said: "I tried this a few weeks ago, and it worked."  I want evidence, that is all, for I haven't looked up whether it's true or not.

What I do know for sure is that the old limit of you can only play 2 characters if you don't have a public account is no longer true, as demonstrated with my counter example.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: egamma on May 31, 2012, 09:45:36 PM
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/CharacterLimits (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/CharacterLimits)

Doesn't mention the public info at all.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Velax on June 05, 2012, 05:37:16 AM
There's a player in Arcaea with four characters whose information is still private.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on June 07, 2012, 10:02:39 AM
I apologise to everyone for not following.

Initially when I made my account (on 2011-11-18), I choose to keep my info private.
I made my first noble character, my profile was private and in the 'edit data' section I could stwich between a public profile and a private profile whenever I wanted.
Then I went on to make two more characters, one noble and one adventurer,  and my profile was still private, but in the 'edit data' section, It said displayed "(locked at yes as long as you play more than 2 characters)" but I was still allowed to choose a yes or a no.
When I made my profile public, by choosing a yes (as an answer to 'public info?'), the 'yes' got frozen, my account went public but I didn't get an additional character slot.

I believe the problem is that when someone has two or more characters, the user data must automatically lock 'public info?' at 'yes', rather than giving a choice, and I believe that when this happens, the game doesn't provide an additional character slot. A character slot I guess is provided only when someone chooses to make his profile public... I believe this is why I didn''t get a character slot. But I say, because of the bug, I did make the choice, I too choose to make my profile public, hence I think I deserve a character slot.  :D
Am I adviced to write a bug report on this? :)
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Zakilevo on June 07, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
I apologise to everyone for not following.

Initially when I made my account (on 2011-11-18), I choose to keep my info private.
I made my first noble character, my profile was private and in the 'edit data' section I could stwich between a public profile and a private profile whenever I wanted.
Then I went on to make two more characters, one noble and one adventurer,  and my profile was still private, but in the 'edit data' section, It said displayed "(locked at yes as long as you play more than 2 characters)" but I was still allowed to choose a yes or a no.
When I made my profile public, by choosing a yes (as an answer to 'public info?'), the 'yes' got frozen, my account went public but I didn't get an additional character slot.

I believe the problem is that when someone has two or more characters, the user data must automatically lock 'public info?' at 'yes', rather than giving a choice, and I believe that when this happens, the game doesn't provide an additional character slot. A character slot I guess is provided only when someone chooses to make his profile public... I believe this is why I didn''t get a character slot. But I say, because of the bug, I did make the choice, I too choose to make my profile public, hence I think I deserve a character slot.  :D
Am I adviced to write a bug report on this? :)

You don't get an additional character slot. Your noble limit changes to three. The total number of characters you can have will increase when you reach 20 fame points.

If you want to unlock one character slot+additional noble limit, you can donate.

So in total, you can have 5 nobles and 5 characters active.

When you start: 3 character slots, 2 nobles and 1 adv
 -Public 'Yes': 3 character slots, 3 nobles
 -20 fame points: 4 character slots, 4 nobles
 -Donation: 5 character slots, 5 nobles
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on June 07, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
Thanks! :)
I forgot that there was a noble limit too. I guess in my previous post when I referred to an additional character slot, I meant a +1 to the noble limit. Thanks!
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on June 07, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Close but no cigar.  Since it's mostly been figured out already, to clear up the confusion, I've checked and this is what is actually happens.  Would be nice if someone modify the wiki to reflect this.

1. Everyone gets 3 active characters, 2 nobles, and 4 characters in total at the start.
2. If you have 5 or more fame, 1 more noble.  If you have 20 or more fame, 2 more nobles.
3. If you donate, 1 more active character, 1 more noble.
4. If you are a long time player (multiple years) and/or recognized by the community (medals), 1 more active character.
5. Depending on how long you've played, you get more characters in total, after a while it's 1 per year.
6. You always have as many or fewer nobles than your active character limit (forced).
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Indirik on June 07, 2012, 09:36:48 PM
6. You always have fewer nobles than your active character limit.
That's not strictly true. Donors can have all noble characters.

"Your character limits are: 12 characters total, 5 active at the same time, 5 of those can be nobles"
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on June 07, 2012, 09:43:52 PM
That's not strictly true. Donors can have all noble characters.

"Your character limits are: 12 characters total, 5 active at the same time, 5 of those can be nobles"

Fixed.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Velax on June 08, 2012, 06:11:28 AM
So if making your account public does nothing, is there any point to forcing accounts to stay public once someone chooses to make it public? Surely either accounts should have to be public after you have 2/3/whatever characters, or you should be able to make it public and private at will.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Velax on June 08, 2012, 06:26:42 AM
1. Everyone gets 2 active characters, 3 nobles, and 4 characters in total at the start.

Are you sure that's right? The Wiki states you start with 3 active characters and the active character slot for Medals and Long Term Players don't stack. Are you saying you start with 2 and those two things do stack?
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on June 08, 2012, 09:58:05 AM
1. Everyone gets 2 active characters, 3 nobles, and 4 characters in total at the start.
I think I started with 3 active characters, of which 2 can be nobles, and 4 characters in all.
I think you swapped the 3 and 2... :D
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on June 08, 2012, 09:58:46 AM
And Also everyone, my noble limit has been increased!! :D
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on June 08, 2012, 08:13:06 PM
Velax is correct.  I mixed up the two.  Fixed.

Kmap, that is likely due to the length of time that you have played BM.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on June 08, 2012, 09:23:14 PM
Kmap, that is likely due to the length of time that you have played BM.
Foundation, my noble limit has increased, not the number of characters slots. I think it is because of making profile public. :)
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Velax on June 08, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
Possibly...you don't have 5 Fame and you haven't donated...
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Bael on June 08, 2012, 10:24:00 PM
That's not strictly true. Donors can have all noble characters.

"Your character limits are: 12 characters total, 5 active at the same time, 5 of those can be nobles"

It is not even necessary to be a donor to have all noble characters:

"Your character limits are: 8 characters total, 4 active at the same time, 4 of those can be nobles"

I suspect Kmap may be onto something: making info public makes an all-noble account possible?
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Foundation on June 08, 2012, 11:22:41 PM
No, unfortunately nothing else except fame and donations increase your noble limit.  Kmap, please link me to your profile.  Either there's a bug or this is a result of existing bugs.

If you do have <=4 fame, and haven't donated, then you should have 2 noble limit.  If you have more, it'll likely go away once the cleanup script is fixed.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Cren on June 09, 2012, 09:13:42 AM
It started for me like this

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4 characters total, 3 active at the same time, 2 of them can be nobles


Making info public, no change. After 1 week got 1 more char slot, 1 more after 1 month. After getting 5 FP, the noble limit rose to 3.
Title: Re: Public account
Post by: Kmap on June 09, 2012, 09:48:53 AM
http://battlemaster.org/UserDetails.php?ID=32813
Go ahead, do the minus one.