The concept reminds me of this game, I've recently learned about: http://www.faerytaleonline.com/faq.html
Quote from: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 03:07:23 AM
The concept reminds me of this game, I've recently learned about: http://www.faerytaleonline.com/faq.html
This game looks pretty interesting :o
Quote from: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 03:07:23 AM
The concept reminds me of this game, I've recently learned about: http://www.faerytaleonline.com/faq.html
I am SO joining that right this minute and trying that out!
Who/where are you, Pierre?
Quote from: Ehndras on July 15, 2012, 01:44:56 AM
I am SO joining that right this minute and trying that out!
Who/where are you, Pierre?
No one born yet. :/
Quote from: Ehndras on July 15, 2012, 01:44:56 AM
I am SO joining that right this minute and trying that out!
Who/where are you, Pierre?
The birth queue is ridiculous... I am 123rd in the line... will take at least a month to start I think.
Quote from: Zakilevo on July 15, 2012, 07:46:10 AM
The birth queue is ridiculous... I am 123rd in the line... will take at least a month to start I think.
Yep, if I get in I'm starting a mating rampage to populate the world...
Haha, it looks like it can take some time to get started:
You have a character currently waiting to be born. The waiting time is based on your place in the player registration list, and the number of mothers in the game giving birth. When born, you will be immediately notified by email.
Pregnant Mothers: 6
Your position in the birth queue is: 147
Quote from: Thunthorn on July 18, 2012, 09:48:39 AM
Haha, it looks like it can take some time to get started:
You have a character currently waiting to be born. The waiting time is based on your place in the player registration list, and the number of mothers in the game giving birth. When born, you will be immediately notified by email.
Pregnant Mothers: 6
Your position in the birth queue is: 147
If we do manage to start, we should gather :D BM tribe ftw!
Damn right we will!
93 more to go...
At first it looks like Tom's fantasy project. At second look too, and third. At fourth look you find it is BMs (high) fantasy brother. I'm in!
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 155
:o :'(
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 90
90 more to go! in 10 days maybe?
There appears to be quite scarce documentation about the game itself, or I am just not looking hard enough. I would be wonderful to know how the game actually works. Still, it looks like it offers opportunities to culture creation and power mongering. It is hilarious that newbies start as babies. I can imagine some of the parents will feel a genuine sense of dread when their offspring do silly and dangerous things in the world for not knowing better.
Funny in a game - no so much IRL.
Fine I"ll give it a try.
I wonder if you get to name your character yourself or if your parents do it,
It says in the FAQ.
We get our parent-given family name that no one but us sees, and then we make our own name by which the world will know us.
Only thing you can choose is your gender.
Currently 152nd on the queue, surely they chose a boring process for the start.
86 more to go!. Yeah I agree with this whole waiting thing being boring as hell. I really hope the game is worth the wait.
... you can just see it now, can't you
"you are born"
"you got dropped... you die"
*back of queue*
LOL.
97 in.
Well, the issue is that there's perma-death, so apparently these douches aren't dying fast enough!
Lets change that. ;-) BM-Bay12 clan of death?
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 117
Hullu Hullu's incarnation is on the line!
hang on.. why does perma death matter? are they limiting number of characters in the server?
i was thinking people aren't horny enough or what not and not making babies instead..
Perma-death matters because you'll have to start over as a child again and wait till you're born again. The number of characters in the server is only limited by the pregnant mothers. This game appears to still be very new, and there have been way more sign-ups then expected, that's why there is such a long queue now. I believe ingame time has been sped up right now etc. to increase the birth rate. It's most certainly a very interesting approach, this method, and that's pretty much what has got me curious :P
but... isn't the limiting factor the number of mothers?
... so basically there aren't enough people getting it on.. so to speak.. or are all the women getting killed?
Alright, HERE'S THE PLAN!
Lets make like vikings and kill, conquer, and !@#$ everything in our way so that we can a) stimulate new players, b) create more pregnant women and c) ensure our people tower above all ;-)
Hey, its doable... :-P
I'm curious about the mechanics, actually. Is the game new/small enough that they can't support so many players yet, or is there some in-game mechanic thats making things super-slow?
I'm going to be a defensive bastard because I don't want to wait on line again, and if there's anything I can do to speed up that line for others, I will do so.
is the queue mainly due to deaths though?
Quote from: Ehndras on July 19, 2012, 04:40:02 PM
I'm curious about the mechanics, actually. Is the game new/small enough that they can't support so many players yet, or is there some in-game mechanic thats making things super-slow?
The game is too new / too small. Basically, there was such a high sudden interest in the game, a huge queue started building up with not enough players yet to handle that many new-borns. That's why they sped up the birthing process / ingame time or something to stimulate more players entering. At least that was the explanation a few months back.
Not sure. I know when you die you get added to the queue, but it does seem like there's been a massive surge in new players signing up to what's otherwise a small game. Happens. :-P I remember when Bay12 bombed a strategy-war party-based Fantasy game and even forged an empire that owned half the world at one point. The creator ended up joining B12 and is now an avid player and B12er bahaha. We practically overloaded his server due to the population explosion, and with all the new arrivals he went into overdrive and unleashed a massive amount of new features in a sequence of updates.
I think if we power-bomb this game, we might spurn some good things. I'd like to get in contact with the creator directly via email this week and see if I can get some information that isn't included in the wiki, as well as mention BM and Bay12 and inquire about the state of the queue. Always good to be inquisitive and make the first move :-) Even if it changes nothing, which is more than likely, I'll get some information and relay it to you folks. I'm pretty sure if all of us send an email respectfully asking about the queue, mentioning we were referred from the BM forums, and thanking them for the game and all that, we'd get some results.
Population explosions in games always give a creator good reason to change things up and add to the system, especially if its a little-known or limited game due to a low population.
That their queue jumped from 115 to 140 and we're only at 97ish means there's not that many players. Or maybe the game is practically dead. Either way, I'm damn sure our pop-surge will be FUN.
Some of us need to play females and work overtime... I volunteer! I will be the ant queen. Make sure to bring stuff to feed me muwhahaha
Quote from: Zakilevo on July 19, 2012, 06:46:47 PM
Some of us need to play females and work overtime... I volunteer! I will be the ant queen. Make sure to bring stuff to feed me muwhahaha
Join their FB page, and then you'll see that most of their players are females, and their chars are getting overloaded :-P
Quote from: Cren on July 19, 2012, 07:05:38 PM
Join their FB page, and then you'll see that most of their players are females, and their chars are getting overloaded :-P
Really? then I guess I should choose a male character.
WAT.
Reading the players' discussions, my interest in this game just shot up 1,000%! Requested to join the FB group. Everyone else join, lets start a wave. :-P
I'll post the game on Bay12 also, see if we can get another 50-150 folks to bomb the queue lmfao.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 19, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
WAT.
Reading the players' discussions, my interest in this game just shot up 1,000%! Requested to join the FB group. Everyone else join, lets start a wave. :-P
I'll post the game on Bay12 also, see if we can get another 50-150 folks to bomb the queue lmfao.
ROFL! We might become the biggest tribe :o
But you really don't have any say where you spawn, which is good. Can't really form a tribe when some of us will have wings, some are fish and some walk the forest, and some exists in who knows on what aetheric plane. Though we can certainly influence the game for the better. A sudden flow of good roleplayers can only be good for the game.
74th at the queue.
I have played Faery Tale Online for a long time and actually I'm the person who mentioned in when talking to Jean Pierre. ;) I have not been active there lately due to RL stress, but maybe I can answer some of your questions.
The game isn't new at all, I have been playing it for several RL years. The queue has just always been too big to manage for the ingame mothers. Considering that there is a total population of 405 characters spread over a lot of races at the moment, counting in all characters too young or too old to produce babies and all inactives (there is no auto-pausing due to inactivity in this game, so if an inactive character is being fed by others, they can practically survive forever) and also considering the fact that not every character would be interested in becoming a parent or able to find a partner for that, it might be a bit more understandable why a queue of 161 is not exactly easy to handle for the existing characters.
There was a huge drop of players when the game creator had decided to kill off every character over the age of 50 with a mysterious sickness to prevent some supposed clanning and I myself lost my favorite character to this "purge" and was pretty frustrated back then. Then there was also a breakdown of the server for several months and when the game returned, it was with a limited play time of one hour per day per account which caused even more players to quit. With a few tricks, it is relatively easy to still play a lot, though. Simply type all of your roleplays offline in a text editor of some sort while you stay on your portal screen where you can select a character to play and only enter the game world with one of your characters to paste it in, then go back to the portal screen where no time will be subtracted.
There's also the problem of the server only admitting a certain number of players online at the same time which was quite an annoyance during US prime time before the huge player drop. I hope the server will be able to handle the amount of new players now.
And I guess I should warn you that you can't expect much support with fixing bugs or anything in this game. The game developer has mostly withdrawn from the community and does not want any helpers. If you are lucky, he will react to it if you send him a message via facebook in the case of a character dying because of a bug. Some bug deaths have been fixed, others haven't. And often, people sending him messages don't get a reply at all.
If your character ever gets killed by another player, even if it's for OOC reasons or killed by a supposed troll or whatever, don't expect any help at all from the game creator. He has made it pretty clear he does not want to have anything to do with such player arguments. I assume that was also the reason why he closed the forums for the game, so that only the facebook group and IRC are left for communication between the players. Your only chance for a character resurrection is after a death caused by a bug and even then it's not guaranteed at all.
Sometimes, he introduces new features to the game, but he does it when he feels like it and will not let the community know in advance. I also doubt that any new feature requests would be answered or even wanted.
All of this might sound a bit harsh, but I thought you should know in advance instead of getting a wrong impression. There won't be any magistrates or titans in Faery Tale Online and no kind of other "staff", so the players have to deal with such things themselves. But even despite this withdrawal of the game creator, I think every roleplayer who likes fantasy settings with different races, who likes purely text-based games and who has no aversion to playing a baby and child for the first few weeks in this game can have a lot of fun. And just like in BattleMaster with the different realms, your gaming experience can vary greatly depending on which parents you are born to. There are no NPCs, every character has a real player behind them.
I'm not sure yet how much time I'll have over the coming weekend, but I will try to answer questions here. Also, I'll give you some information on how to start in that game as soon as I find the time for typing it. You won't be born over the weekend anyway, so I guess there is no reason for urgency. ;)
Oh, and the only thing you can choose for your character is the gender. The race you are born into will simply depend on which character is giving birth when you are in spot 0 of the birthing queue (yes, #1 is not the actual person first in line, you have to go down to 0 for that :p) and your character name will be chosen by your character's mother some time after the birth (it can sometimes take a few RL days until the players of the parents have decided on a name.) Also, I have heard from some players that they had difficulties playing as one of the more "exotic" races because they could not get used to playing a furry character. :p Be prepared that there's not only high-fantasy races like elves and dwarves, but also a lot of others. Well, and you could also just end up as a human, too, instead of any fantasy race, so be prepared for that possibility as well. ;)
too old to give birth...
do you die from old age too automatically?
This game just went from being awesome to !@#$. The creator sounds like he doesn't give a damn about the game...
Yes, characters eventually die of old age. When exactly that is depends on the race. And quite some time before they die, characters will become unable to reproduce because of old age. They can still mate mechanically, but it won't result in a pregnancy any longer. I'm not sure if there are exact numbers for every race or if there is a bit of randomness to it as well.
Zakilevo, I fear you can actually call it like that, yeah. Though it's not the creator who makes the game fun or not fun, but the people you play it with. Even with the creator being "absent", I personally still did have a lot of fun and the whole family system in combination with the fantasy races made it a quite unique and nice experience. I simply thought I should warn you all in advance that there's no technical support or something like that. Bugs do happen from time to time, though the deadly ones mostly involve characters over 100 right now who should not be fighting any animals any longer because even a butterfly can kill them, even if their race lives far longer than 100. Something must be wrong with their hitpoint calculation or something, though hitpoints are a hidden value. I don't know if that's going to be fixed or not, though if any of you should play a character long enough to reach that age, simply... don't go hunting, no matter what race you are. :p
If there are any problems or questions that you have that do not require the game creator to do something, the community on facebook is always very helpful towards new players and you can also ask me here.
Oh, and if anyone decides they don't like the game after being born, they should consider giving the account away to someone here or someone on facebook who would like to play without waiting through the queue. It won't only make that person happy, but also the players of the parents for whom it is pretty frustrating to give birth to only inactives. :(
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 159
I'm 135...
I wonder how many people just walk away and give up. This is pretty ridiculous.
Quote from: Indirik on July 20, 2012, 06:49:13 PM
I'm 135...
I wonder how many people just walk away and give up. This is pretty ridiculous.
72 now. 6-10 people are being born every day... So 8-9 days for me...
You can't have 6-10 people born per day when there are no pregnant mothers. There's going to be a slowdown for a bit while all the potential mommies are busy getting knocked up.
Yeah, the wait is pretty long and annoying, but I guess it's the price one has to pay for being able to actually play a character's background story by being born into a family. You could read some stories in the Faery Tale to entertain yourself while waiting (it's described in my FAQ below how to access these stories) or visit the facebook group or the Faery Tale Online IRC channel to communicate with some players.
I've found the time to write down the necessary information for you all before anyone gets born, so that things won't go terribly wrong after the birth. And I've also taken some screenshots because it might be interesting to see a more up-to-date one than the one linked on the homepage:
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The Portal Screen | The Game World |
You have just been born.
So... what to do next? The first thing you should do is to lean back for a moment and think about what it really means that your character enters the game world as a newborn baby. Babies can't talk or walk yet, they can't even stand or pick up things or feed or dress themselves.
Your character will be completely dependent on his or her parents and you should play the character accordingly. Please don't do things that newborn babies wouldn't do, like running through buildings on your own without any other characters roleplaying that they carry your character.
And even more please, don't pick up things from the ground, no matter how tempting it might be with reference to other games where you normally grab everything you see and equip it. If you simply pick up everything you see, you might just have stolen the whole colony's box with food supplies and if you don't put it back, their only way of getting it back would be killing your character - and of course nobody wants to see that happen.
Especially, please don't pick up weapons or armor because that might put other players in red alert mode, thinking the player behind this baby is not a new, clueless player, but a jerk who does not want to roleplay and just wants to kill other characters on the first chance they're given.
Of course this is not what you are (hopefully ;)), so just don't touch weapons or armor at all and also don't try to build them on your own as a child, unless you get the permission to do so from an adult character. Not listening to this advice might result in the death of your character.
Many players are very sensitive about weapons and armor after witnessing some serious trolling in the game - please try to understand them and what it would feel like to lose beloved characters to some jerk who loves ruining the fun for others and never put any effort in actually roleplaying in this game, but instead saw it as his sole purpose to cause as much damage as possible. So, yeah, no weapons and armor for now. ;)
Enjoy the experience and roleplay what a newborn/toddler/child would actually do at your character's age, like crying because of hunger, babbling, slowly learning to crawl and walk and speak, getting to know the world around them while being taught things they need to know by their family, like how to make your own food and everything you should know about the race's unique culture. Some races might even have unique vocabulary for some things.
Please try to leave any prejudices from the real world behind when you start playing your character. Things that are considered right or wrong in the real world don't have to be the same in the culture of your character's race. There are some races that don't bury their dead, for example, and maybe even eat them. That sounds disgusting from a RL perspective, but seeing that it's a more animal-like race, it would be completely normal for them.
Given the fact that most races in this game started with one Adam and one Eve character who then produced offspring, it is nothing uncommon to see a brother and a sister have babies together either. Again, this looks repulsive from a RL perspective, but there is nothing wrong with it in the world of Faery Tale Online.
It will make the experience so much better for you if you just give the unique culture of your race a chance and have your character learn how things are handled in the ingame world instead of thinking of your character as yourself with RL values and morale.
Also, please have some patience with other players. They might be living in time zones very different from your own and be asleep or at work when you're logged in, so give them some hours to react.
Quote from: Andira on July 20, 2012, 08:58:06 PMEnjoy the experience and roleplay what a newborn/toddler/child would actually do at your character's age, like crying because of hunger, babbling, slowly learning to crawl and walk and speak, getting to know the world around them while being taught things they need to know by their family, like how to make your own food and everything you should know about the race's unique culture. Some races might even have unique vocabulary for some things.
This is one of the things I am really not looking forward to. It sounds like it's a pretty ridiculous thing to be required to do. RP your character as a newborn baby? I have kids. I know what newborn babies do: Sleep. When they're not sleeping they're eating. Or crying. Or pooping. (If you're lucky they're pooping. If not... Well, that's a whole 'nother problem!)
How fast do characters age? Because personally, I'd just love to fast-forward to the part where I can at least walk, talk, and do stuff.
I LOVE IT.
This is a serious Fantasy roleplayer's wet dream! this is nothing, I've RP'd in some extremely serious communities where this is completely normal, though generally optional. Its always a blast, and its a good experience for not-so-serious/experienced RPers who only do BM-esque RP, which is relatively tame and simplistic.
FAQ Part 1:
Pop-Ups: First, please make sure to allow pop-ups for the Faery Tale Online site to avoid problems. Don't worry, there will be no advertisements popping up, but several game functions use pop-ups.
How do I see my race?Hover your mouse cursor over the symbol of a small blue person next to your character's age.
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How do I post my own roleplay?First make sure that you have read the roleplays other players might have written already after your birth. The newest ones are at the top, the oldest at the bottom. Then you can fill your own roleplay into the small "Say" field and click on the "Send" button afterwards. However, as long as your character is younger than 1 ingame year, everything they say will get automatically converted to baby babbling like "gaa goo waaaah" to prevent players from talking like an adult.
Emotes: You can still write emotes to describe your character's actions, though. To do so, surround your text with asterisks, like *text*. Doing this will prevent the conversion to babbling. However, you have to make sure there is nothing, not even a blank space, outside the asterisks or the automatic conversion to baby babbling will still happen. Of course you can also use this function to send OOC messages to your colony. It might be good to let them know you are a new player, so that they will hopefully show some understanding and patience if you make some mistakes in your first days of playing. Emotes don't describe speech, so *Mama, I'm hungry!* would be a bad emote (not even to mention the fact that a newborn should not be able to speak yet ;)). *The baby is hungry* would not be a great emote either - instead, try to describe what effects the hunger would have on your character, like *She releases a high-pitched wail as her stomach starts to growl.* Inner monologues and thoughts are usually not described in Faery Tale Online, only things that other characters would see or hear, so that they can react to them. There is still a place called "The Faery Tale" for story-telling including inner monologues that I will mention a bit later.
I have no clue who is talking in the roleplays that the other players have written. It just keeps saying things like "man/woman in adulthood". How to change that?Naming: Naming of other characters, of locations and of some special NPC animals is dynamic in FTO, meaning there are no pre-set names that every player would see. Instead, you will learn the names together with your character and can fill them in as soon as you know how a person or place is called. For example, it might be a good idea to mark your character's parents somehow if you have already seen them roleplay and so know who they are. If there was a woman roleplaying giving birth to one or more babies right after your character was born, it is usually safe to assume this woman is your character's mother. To mark them for yourself, just click on their blue "Woman/Man in Adulthood" link above their roleplay and fill in something like "mother" if you haven't been able to deduce their actual names yet from the roleplay that has happened so far. No other players will see what you fill in there, so you could name a character "crazy old guy" if you want. These names you give to characters can be changed at any time and as often as you want.
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As soon as you have named someone this way, their name will also show up for you in the list of inhabitants to the right. You will likely be at the bottom of this list because the list is sorted by age, with the oldest characters at the top and the youngest at the bottom. If your character was born together with a twin or even more new siblings, the character born first will be listed before the others. You could also send an OOC message surrounded by asterisks * and ask the players in your colony nicely to give you all names of the inhabitants OOCly to facilitate the roleplaying, though of course things like that can always be done in the race's specific IRC channel as well. Alternatively, you could try to find out who the players of your parents are by asking in the Faery Tale Online facebook group and then having them explain things to you in private facebook messages.
How do I enter the IRC channel for my race?http://joo.freehostia.com/fto/irc/
Even if you're not sure what exactly IRC is and if you don't have any client for it installed, this is a fool-proof way to enter the IRC chat room for Faery Tale Online. There are usually several players online there and you can simply ask them if there is anybody of your race online at the moment and what the name of your race-specific IRC channel is.
Where do I see what my parents look like?Once you have found out who your parents are and have given them some kind of name, you can find them in the list of inhabitants to the right. Hover your mouse cursor over the symbol left of their name which is either a blue person if they are online right now or a blue dash if they are offline. You will see two paragraphs there. The first is written by the respective player and describes the individual character. The second paragraph is automatically produced by the game and describes the race that this character belongs to. Some characters also have an image which you can see by clicking on the magnifying glass right of their name in the inhabitants list.
Before interacting with a character you should always make sure to check their race first. It's possible that there are huge size differences that would influence the roleplay, like that between a 5-inch-race and a 3-foot-race or that other racial features would influence the roleplay, for example a mermaid child that can't leave the water to play with some human children on the land. If there is a sentence added that "It appears that this particular being shares some of their racial qualities with some other race", it means that the character is a cross-breed, even though the game won't automatically tell you what the second race is that flows in the character's blood. If you can't figure it out by the individual character description, it will be very hard to tell, unless you have your character ask childishly when they are old enough for it "Mommy, why does person X look different from us?" ;)
Where can I fill in the description for my own character and upload an image?There is a field for your own character description in the top left corner and you will make the players of your character's parents very happy by writing at least a short text here. It is also seen as a sign of activity and will likely help to have your character be fed by others in opposite to the babies who are seen as inactive and given up after some days (which is unfortunately way more than those who are and stay active). Please take into regard the descriptions of your character's mother and father and your character's general racial description before you write anything here. You could also look at the descriptions of other family members for inspiration.
Only visual features of your character should be filled in here, like hair and eye color, stature, height, form of the nose or also more temporary things (if you keep them up to date) like wounds or dark rings around the eyes or reddened eyes from crying a lot, but not invisible character traits like "She is a very kind person who likes to help others" or "He doesn't like raspberries" or emotions like "He is sad about the death of his mother". If your character is a cross-breed and you know the races of both the father and the mother, you can of course mix the racial features in a way that you like. If you are unsure which features would be acceptable in your race, you can always ask people in IRC or in the facebook group. If you want, you can upload an image for your character by clicking on the scroll symbol next to your character's name in the inhabitants list. To do so, you have to allow pop-ups for the Faery Tale Online site.
My character is starving! What to do?First of all, don't panic. Every character gets born in the "starving" state and it's not as urgent as it sounds. It would still take several RL days for a character to die of hunger from there and there is actually a state that is still worse than starving, namely "near death". Just give the players of your character's parents some time to log into the game and give some food to you. Or maybe you already have some food in your inventory? If so, just click on the "eat" symbol next to it. Starving characters also eat food automatically at every tick if they have food in their inventory and if you have not disabled the auto-eat function on the portal screen.
My character's parents roleplayed that they gave food to me, but I can't find any. Where is it?If the food is not in your inventory and if your character is not starving any longer, your character has automatically eaten the food already because of the auto-eat function. Auto-eat triggers only for starving or near death characters at the next tick if they have food in their inventory. If your character is still hungry, feel free to make that known to your parents by crying, fussing around or otherwise bothering them.
When the parents give clothes to my character, is (s)he wearing them automatically?No, you still have to click on an icon in your inventory to equip them. The icon looks like a blue sword.
How many ticks are there? When are they?There is one tick every RL hour.
But it tells me I have only 1 hour of play time for the whole day! How does that work?While you are on the portal screen, no time will be subtracted. Time is only subtracted when you have entered the world and click on something there. Write your roleplays offline in a text file and only enter the world to paste them in, which will only use a few seconds of your daily hour. To read new roleplays, you can enter the game world without worrying. As long as the only thing you click on after entering the game world is the "Portal" or "Logout" link at the bottom of the page, no time should be subtracted. Time will only be subtracted if you click on other links or objects in the game world, start a project, click on the "send" button or whatever else. Clicking the "Refresh Page" button
will subtract all the time you have spent in the game world since entering it. If you have idled in the game world for a bit to read the new posts, make sure to go back to the portal screen first before sending your own roleplays to avoid losing too much of your daily hour. Regarding your own playing time, you can stay on the portal screen as long as you want, but as soon as the influx of new players will lead to error messages appearing that players can't log in because too many others are currently logged in, it would be nice of you to log out completely when you don't actually play, so that another player can log in and check on their characters.
How long is an ingame year?6 RL days.
How long is an ingame day?12 RL hours.
Why does my character not have a name yet?Your character will be mechanically named by the player of the mother. The player might not have logged in yet and might also be living in a different time zone than you, so give them some time. Some parents also like to discuss the naming after the birth and it might take a bit until they have played the scene and decided on a name for your character. Also, there is a bug that sometimes the player of a mother naming a child loses all of their remaining playing time for the day during the naming process on the portal screen. So many players of mothers hold off on naming until the end of a day when they won't need their remaining time any longer.
What if I don't like the name they choose for me?Well, like in real life, you don't have much choice there. You can mechanically enter a nick name for your character into the "Nick name" field, but that would only have the effect that this name is shown for your character in your own interface, not in that of other players. When your character is old enough to talk and make conscious decisions, they could suggest a nick name for themselves to others, but maybe you will get to like your original name after all, given some time. Some names might sound strange for RL circumstances, but they might have cultural background for your race. There are races that name their children after gems or after trees or natural phenomena, for example. If you suggest in such a race to be called Megan or Sam instead, that would not make much sense from the perspective of your character. You could always go with short forms of your name, though, unless that is frowned upon within your specific race.
FAQ Part 2:
How do I make food or other things?Characters below the age of 1 can't work on any other projects than foraging yet. Foraging means you simply gather some resources of the available biomes, but of course this only works if you are not inside a building or city. To forage when your character is outside, click on the "Look around" link in the "Nature" section and then on the icon that looks like a blue shopping cart next to one of the available biomes. Every biome has a different range of resources that it can produce and not all of them have anything that food can be made of. You can see what you and others in your location have foraged by going to your portal screen and then clicking on the "Show Event Messages" link.
Resources can never be eaten, even if they are food like berries that can normally be eaten without much preparation IRL. They still have to be prepared first, which will turn them from a resource into an object. Characters who are old enough to start projects can use edible resources that have been foraged to start a project to prepare berries, for example. Alternatively, raw meat can be gained from hunting and then it can be roasted in an oven or over a fire. But of course all of that is nothing that a newborn like your character can or would do.
How old does my character have to be to help someone with their project?1.
How old does my character have to be to start their own projects?3.
How old does my character have to be to hunt or to attack another character?5. That does not mean you should go and try it out right away, though, or your character could die. Several animals are really tough and can kill children easily, especially if you go attack them without a weapon and without armor. Also, some colonies value animal life and would hate to see you attack one of the animals without thought. Animal races also might go extinct in certain places if the last ones are killed, so doing so might piss some people off. And many players frown upon it if young children even try to hunt on their own without being motivated for it by others. It's not like the first thing an average 5-year-old would like to do is go to engage a bear in combat (which would likely lead to your character's death in FTO - I have seen more than one character die after attacking a bear). Instead, please wait until adults show your character how to hunt. That might also be an important step in your character's culture and might be done as a ritual at a certain age, so it's important to follow the guidance of other players there. If you don't want to wait or if you're not sure if it's allowed to hunt in your character's culture or not, you could have your character ask about it in an innocent, childish way, so that an adult will explain things to your character.
If you ever mechanically attack another character, do so at your own risk. Even while still being a child, it might result in your character getting killed by an adult. If you just want to roleplay a harmless fight between children, do so without using the mechanical attack function and especially without using any kind of weapon. Simply describe in an emote how your character boxes the other child onto their arm or whatever.
How old does my character have to be to travel?5. However, if there is not a really good reason for your character to run away from home, they shouldn't do so at such a young age where they are still dependent on their parents.
How old does my character have to be to produce offspring?10. However, you should as always pay attention to the culture of your character's race and learn what an appropriate age for having babies would be there.
Can animals attack and kill my character without provocation?Yes and no. Animals in outside locations won't ever attack without being attacked first. However, mines and cities are an exception to this. Whenever your character enters a new street or tunnel inside a city or mine, there is a chance that one of the creatures present there will attack your character. I have seen players get really sad over losing their character this way, so it's best to stay away from mines and cities unless adult characters tell your character it's safe to go in there (which is only the case if adults have killed all the creatures inside - new creatures might spawn, though). Especially young children still have very low hitpoints, even though hitpoints are a hidden value, so be careful where you go with your character.
There are "Unknown Creatures" in the creature list of my location. What are they?They are simply animals that are either extremely strong or special in some other way and they are part of the dynamic naming system. If there is a certain name for them in your character's culture, you can fill that name in there, so that they won't be shown as "Unknown Creature" any longer. You can of course always have your character ask childishly what they are called to find out if there is any special name for them. Do not attack them unless told to do so by an adult. Some of them could kill an unarmed child with one blow.
Are multiple births possible?Yes, one of my characters once had 7 babies at once and I have heard of births up to 12 babies at once. However, there are also a lot of births with just a single baby.
How long does a pregnancy last?24 RL hours, regardless of the race.
Can I have more than one character per account?Yes, you can have up to three living characters on your account (or even more through account merging, but you can't join the birth queue any longer once you have 3 characters on an account). Once your first character is born, you can click on the "Enter Birth Queue" button on your portal screen to join the birth queue with a second character. But please, do so only after you have played for some time and are sure that you still want to keep playing and that you have the time and dedication for more than one character. Otherwise, you would unnecessarily lengthen the already long birth queue for other players still waiting to get into the game and you would also make parents sad who would get an inactive baby. If you decide you don't want to play Faery Tale Online any longer, please consider giving your account away to someone still waiting to play over the facebook group or here in the BattleMaster forums.
Is more than one account per player allowed?There was a time when no more than one account per player was allowed, though it seems this rule has been lifted now.
Instead of going down further in the birth queue, I just went up a spot! What's going on?When a player in the birth queue doesn't log into their account for a week, the account gets marked as inactive, so that the character will not be born until the player logs in again. The inactive account will still continue to advance through the queue invisibly, so that it will definitely end up at spot 0 given enough time, but the birth will be blocked from happening for the account. As soon as the player reactivates the account by logging in, the birth gets "unlocked" and players behind them in the queue will get pushed back a spot.
Is there more than one continent?Yes, there are several continents completely separate from each other. I have not played for some time and I'm not sure if boats have been implemented yet, but if they haven't, the only characters able to travel between different continents are those that have special racial qualities that enable them to either swim or fly very long distances. That means that certain races will never meet each other, unless boats get implemented.
Is clanning allowed?Yes and no. It's completely fine if you join the birth queue together with some friends, hoping that you will all get born to the same mother, so that your characters would be able to grow up together and become friends ingame. However, if you plan to form a huge interracial BM clan before even being born, it might not be the best of ideas. First, like I mentioned, it's mechanically impossible for some races to meet because they are on different continents and don't have boats. Second, and more importantly, please have your character do things out of in-character motivations only, not because you OOCly would like an interracial clan with all BM players. Develop your character with the experiences he or she makes while growing up instead of planning their life now while you're still in the birth queue. It's best to play this game without any advance plans and to just see what happens to your character.
What causes of death exist in Faery Tale Online?Your character could get killed by another character or by an NPC animal, they could starve, they could die of heat or cold damage when wearing the wrong clothes for their surroundings (though this takes a long time and can easily be changed at any given time - this is mostly a death only inactive characters die). Eating something that is not meant to be eaten, like feces or already rotting food, will also result in some damage, though I think the damage from one piece of bad food is relatively small and would only be enough to kill a character who is already damaged from something else. And finally, characters can die of old age. When exactly that happens depends on the race your character belongs to. There was also a one-time event that characters older than 50 died of a strange disease that the game creator used to kill them off, but this did not happen ever again, so there's no reason to worry about your character turning 50 now.
Can old characters still produce offspring?No. There is a certain age limit after which characters won't be able to produce offspring. I'm not entirely sure where this limit lies exactly and in how far it varies for different races, but it definitely exists.
Is it okay if my character kills another character?Well, there isn't a rule against killing other characters or the game mechanics for that wouldn't exist. However, please bear in mind the long waiting time in the queue and what an annoyance it would be for a player to have to go through that again. Some disputes could easily be settled without outright killing of another character, by just emoting how they fight and how one of them loses and gets knocked out without actually dying of their wounds. You don't -have- to use the attack button in such cases. At least give it a second and even a third thought before actually attempting to murder another character.
What if somebody attacks my character while I'm offline?Your character will automatically defend themselves, even when you're offline. However, if your character has no armor or weapon and the attacker is heavily armed, that wouldn't change much. But there is a guard function for your rescue. Characters can guard other characters by clicking on "Show Guard Options" on the portal screen and then checkmarking any character that your own character would defend with their life. It is very likely that your character's parents would guard him or her this way, at least if you have proven to be an active roleplayer and not one of the many inactive babies. This protection only works while your character is exactly in the same location as the person protecting them, though. As soon as your character enters a building, mine or city that their protectors are not in, you lose the protection until they follow you there or you go back to where they are.
How do I open containers?You have to allow popups for the Faery Tale Online site for containers to work because their contents will pop up in a new, small window.
How can I switch the gender for my character?While you are still in the birth queue, you can switch the gender of your character by clicking on the "Account" link in the upper right corner of your portal screen. As soon as you are born, you can no longer switch the gender (that would be a pretty disturbing sight for all the other characters ;)).
Does magic exist in Faery Tale Online?Yes. Some characters randomly get born with a magic talent. The offensive magic talents would only manifest when the character reaches the age of a teenager while other types of magic can be used right from the moment of your character's birth. Magic characters are very rare, though there is a certain race whose females always have a certain magic talent. I don't want to give away too much here because this is one of the really exciting things to discover in Faery Tale Online. Don't get your hopes up too high to be born with a magic talent, though, since most characters aren't. If a parent has a magic talent, there's a higher chance for their offspring being magic as well, though that doesn't necessarily have to mean they'd get the same kind of magic talent, just -any- type of magic that exists in the game.
Enchanting: -If- your character is born with a magic talent, I should give you a warning here, though, before you do something out of ignorance that you'll regret later. Once, and only once in their lifetime, a magic character can enchant an item with their magic ability that will enable a second person to use that ability if they hold the item in their inventory or have it equipped (just carrying it in the inventory, but not inside a container, is enough to use it, it doesn't have to be equipped). Your character will not lose his own ability when doing this, he will simply create a duplicate of it, so to say. For that, a new "enchant" icon will appear next to -every- item a magic character carries in their inventory. Do by no means use this button light-heartedly because it is, like I mentioned, a once-in-a-lifetime thing. If you enchant a piece of roasted meat or whatever, the magic will be gone as soon as the meat rots away - and food rots fast. There will not even be a confirmation message asking you if you really want to enchant this item, so it's easy to accidentally click the button when not meaning to. A good item to enchant would be something that doesn't rot away fast when being left on the ground, like something made of silver, gold or steel or maybe a piece of parchment. Don't enchant a tool that is meant to be used, though, because tools take damage every time they're used until they vanish eventually.
Is there a way to repair damaged items?No.
Do items rot in my character's inventory or inside containers or only on the ground?Items don't rot when they're inside containers or inside your character's inventory, only when they are laying on the ground - no matter if it's inside a building or not, though a building might slow down the rate of decay a bit. However, items that are being used, like tools your character has equipped while working on a project that needs exactly this tool, will take damage while they are being used until they eventually break.
What is the Faery Tale?The Faery Tale is a compilation of stories written by players of Faery Tale Online for certain events in their characters' lives. Some might just be short snippets of thoughts, others might be relatively long. You can access these stories only while you are -not- logged in. Simply go to the homepage http://www.faerytaleonline.com/ (http://www.faerytaleonline.com/) and click on the link "Story" next to the fields for the login. The oldest stories are on page 1 while the newest stories will be on the last page. The oldest stories stem from the ingame year 25, meaning they have been submitted in 2008 or so (the game was offline for several months in between during which the ingame time stopped running), back in the first beta period of Faery Tale Online when only a single race existed - humans calling themselves the Kindred. It's always a good entertainment to read stories in the Faery Tale while still waiting in the birth queue.
How can I submit my own stories to the Faery Tale?To do that, you have to be logged into the game and then click on the "Story" link at the bottom of the page. While you are still waiting in the birth queue, there will not be much to do there, but once your character has been born, select the character in the upper right corner where "View:" is standing and then click on "Go". Then you will see a list of mechanical events of their life, the first always being the birth. You can click on the blue plus sign for any of these events and write your story into the white text field that opens. If you want to write about something that is not a mechanical event, you can simply choose the mechanical event that has the date closest to whenever the thing that you want to write about happened.
However, the submitted stories don't appear right away after sending them. They used to be looked at individually by the game developer before he permitted them manually, probably to make sure no scam or nonsense will end up in the Faery Tale. I'm not sure if it's still done that way, and if so, if the game creator still wants to invest the time to do it. So... it's possible that no new stories can be submitted any longer, but I can't tell for sure.
Sorry for all the long posts. I could think of too many questions to add into the FAQ, so they kept growing while I was writing them. Here's another very useful resource, but this time not written by me, but taken from the FTO facebook group to help you playing as a child. The list is written for the development of a human child, so there might of course be some adjustments necessary for other races in FTO.
1-6 Months
average - smiling, laughing, cooing, gurgling, recognizing parent's voice, grasping items, knowing your own name, looking at new sounds, eating solid foods, imitation of sounds.
advanced - bating at toys, able to sit up for short amount of time, seperation anxiety, chewing on objects, lunging forward, dragging objects
7-12 Months
average - crawling, followed by standing while holding onto things, pointing, eating with fingers, banging objects together, understands "no" (thats your queue to be as obnoxious as you can until you can speak), know 1 word besides mama and dada
advanced - waving bye, stand on own, incidicate wants with gestures, peek-a-boo, saying mama and dada to the right parent, stand without help a few seconds, followed by walking alone, know two other words besides mama and papa
1.5 years
average - holding out arms and legs to help get dressed, intiating playing games, running, climbing, speaking more clearly, stringing words together in short phrases, responding to simple commands
advanced - rolling objects back and forth, "helping" people, shushing others, undressing self, becoming picky about foods, dancing, sorting objects
2 Years
average - 200 words, walking up stairs, opening doors, singing simple songs, playing with other kids, talking to self
advanced - touching their privates in public, dress self, starts asking "why?", learning to jump
3 Years
average - pronouns, washing and drying hands, balance on one foot, recognizing gender differences, children start to understand jokes (but often can't), potty trained (but no toliets in this world)
advanced - can speak clearly 50% of the time, knows a single color, names one friend, starting to learn abc's
4 years
Cooperative playing, imaginary friends, can start cleaning up after themselves, nearly clear speech, counting to 10, draw a simple person, talking about things they did today, sadness, fear, anger, anxiety,showing interest in other children's bodies.
Side note: Children typically don't remember anything before this age
5 years
Can care for self, some independant work, begins sharing with others, understands cause and effect, happy to get away from parents for short period of time, understands authority, self control, using comparison words (bigger, smaller), skipping, standing on tippy toes, knows own age, can tell short stories, make believe, prentends to be a mom or dad
6 years
Parents emmotions effect children, count up to 100, right from left, forming bonds with other important adults besides the parents.
8 years
Tell time, read for pleasure, sense of humor, bothered by good and bad / fair and unfair, helping others with simple task
Side note: Girls can start to hit puberty at this age
10 years
Very social, bothered by things that make him/her different from others (being short, overweight, etc), can help other effectively
Side note: boys can start to hit puberty at this age
12 years
Boys and girls should have hit puberty by now and should be an emmotional wreck, switch between repsonsible and irresponsible, and start to declare independance from their parents.
14 years
Think they are indestructable, are idealistic, wants everything now, impulsive, moody, messy, mouthy, self centered, worried about their bodies and how they look, can feel isolated, social life is more important
16 years
PMS, very sensitive, continues to test authority, dating, opinionated, privacy
18 years
Self confidence again, friends of both sexes, recognizes rules and authority, considerate, self-identity
Reference:
1-6 Months http://www.babycenter.com/0_milestone-char...nths_1496585.bc
7-12 Months http://www.babycenter.com/0_milestone-char...nths_1496587.bc
1.5 Years Old http://www.babycenter.com/0_milestone-char...nths_1496589.bc
2 Years Old http://www.babycenter.com/0_milestone-char...nths_1496591.bc
2.5 Years Old http://www.babycenter.com/0_milestone-char...nths_1496593.bc
3 Years Old http://www.babycenter.com/0_milestone-char...nths_1496595.bc
Birth to 18 Years Old http://www.kidsgrowth.com/stages/guide/index.cfm
I have only been briefly keeping up with this thread and skimming info about the game here. But when I got to the latest parts about RPing as a tiny infant.... I got sufficiently weirded out.
QuoteAre multiple births possible?
Yes, one of my characters once had 7 babies at once and I have heard of births up to 12 babies at once. However, there are also a lot of births with just a single baby.
Wat.
I'm falling more and more in love with this game as I read more of the FAQ. Its definitely not for your casual RP. This is a serious atmosphere, full-breadth hardcore RP game which won't pique the interest of most BMers but it sure as hell piqued mine.
Heh. I'm not that much in such heavy RP, but it does sound interesting. I must admit this whole birthing mechanism is a pretty interesting feature. Thanks for all the info you posted, it will help when I totally mess up everything :)
You're welcome. :) Feel free to keep asking questions if something hasn't been answered sufficiently yet. It would really suck if any new player would be mistaken for a troll or anything, simply for not knowing better, so I'll do what I can to prevent this before those of you still wanting to play get born.
Yeah, definitely not into rp'ing an infant. Oh yay! so hardcore, pooping and crying!
Reminds me of the people who are into rp'ing themselves as a baby furry while yiffing. *blech*
So....this game I feel would be absolutely great if you started out at say 13 years old. You could have parents sure, from the game, and they could just roleplay having some random "kid" for 13 years of they want, but any roleplay before then is essentially meaningless. People don't really define themselves till at least in their teenage years. And waiting 2 months to just reach the age of 13 (once I do get in the game) is kind of absurd.
Also, not sure how keen I am to join a game whose creator doesn't even do anything for it.
Well, as always, to each his own. Nobody is forced to try the game, but those who still want to will hopefully have a great experience. I actually know people who say playing the childhood is the part that is most fun for them. *shrugs* I personally enjoy all age phases because all of them offer a very different experience, though admittedly, the very first 3 days are a bit boring. It's more fun when the character can at least crawl around and wreak havoc on the overstrained parents. ;)
There are people who join BM, only to lose interest when they don't progress as quickly as they might like. Happens daily. Those of us who hang around know they're missing the best parts. Think of the baby stage as a weeding out process.
Quote from: Dante Silverfire on July 21, 2012, 01:28:00 AM
People don't really define themselves till at least in their teenage years.
Actually its thought that people's personalities have already developed when a person is 7 years old though I understand not wanting to RP anything much younger than that.
I really don't see much point in RPing anything much younger than that. I will give it a shot, though, and see what happens.
Quote from: Dante Silverfire on July 21, 2012, 01:28:00 AM
Also, not sure how keen I am to join a game whose creator doesn't even do anything for it.
This is one of the greatest things out Battlemaster. Tom is an active part of the community. He clearly has a passion for the game and has spent over a decade communing with his player base and working to improve the game in ways big and small. If you really want, you can get in contact with Tom anytime and he will likely get back to you. The same goes for the Devs. They are part of the active player base and community.
Quote from: Penchant on July 21, 2012, 02:56:10 AM
Actually its thought that people's personalities have already developed when a person is 7 years old though I understand not wanting to RP anything much younger than that.
Well I'm not a psychiatrist but I think my point stands.
RP'ing early on sucks.
Quote from: Dante Silverfire on July 21, 2012, 03:27:30 AM
Well I'm not a psychiatrist but I think my point stands.
RP'ing early on sucks.
Your point is true, and I am not a psychiartrist either, I just remember random stuff that I hear.
I can't believe you guys don't see the potential for epic RPs of evil babies like Stewie while maintaining the infant façade!
Also, 12 babies at once... I... don't even.
Puppies! Puppies! Puppies!
Am I the only one who doesn't see anything wrong with a little OOC collaboration, at the very least to try and get the game growing more? With a group of us we could kind of form a group to get things going with more baby production and finish up the que faster.
Also a big group can kind of get the creator back into it?
Perhaps someone should just buy the rights to the game from him and we can fix a lot of the issues? Or at least make an alternate version where you start as a youth.
Quote from: Dante Silverfire on July 21, 2012, 04:30:49 AM
Or at least make an alternate version where you start as a youth.
Yeah, there should be an option to start as a parentless, troubled youth. You just show up in the world, 14 years old, no parents, no friends, no clue who you are or what you're supposed to be. All you know is there are all these old people around trying to tell you to be something you're not. You like to hang out behind the local soda shop, roll your own cigarettes, and maybe do a vandalism here and there, maybe a little spray paint. "Ain't nobody tell me nothin'." 8)
you are assuming he wants a load of people..
Well many of the BM players are hardcore RPers, they would love playing as a baby. It may suck for a little while but hey, RPing a fluffy, overstuffed chatterbox is fun. I am rolling, 130ish on the queue.
Note: The game discussions goes on only in their fb group and irc channel, make sure not to miss them.
I don't know about that, Cren, judging from what's been said in this forum. I've noticed a lot of people saying they WOULD NOT like to rp as that. Only a very few have said they would.
me.. i'm just going to click buttons. no text from me... i'm thinking... if ever i'm born.
I've already decided upon my RP for a child, it'll be very easy. I'm just going to be a mute character. No talking, no crying.
Seems interesting, will role play "The Orphan, will start by killing my parents and be evil!
*whoops... boy pissed poison in their tea*
*starve to death as no one is around to feed him*
Quote from: Dante Silverfire on July 21, 2012, 03:19:42 PM
I've already decided upon my RP for a child, it'll be very easy. I'm just going to be a mute character. No talking, no crying.
Mute like Einstein, or mute like tongue cut?
You guys might want to reconsider what you *would want to do as a char* over the fact that their game community hates powergamers and collaborate on *killing* those characters.
1. Your character doesn't ever talks -isn't fed by the IG mom, thinking you to be an inactive player. Results in starvation, eventually death.
2. You are powergaming: ex- running around equipped with swords and armour while essentially your char is 2 yr old and doesn't have permission from elders -hunting parties are arranged to kill your char.
Courtesy- The Faery Tale Online Facebook group. Enjoy!
I tried joining their group,, but they won't add me.
Quote from: Indirik on July 21, 2012, 07:15:17 PM
I tried joining their group,, but they won't add me.
Hey Rob, I posted your querry on the group, seems like you have to wait till the admin comes online.
Quote from: Cren on July 21, 2012, 06:52:48 PM
You guys might want to reconsider what you *would want to do as a char* over the fact that their game community hates powergamers and collaborate on *killing* those characters.
1. Your character doesn't ever talks -isn't fed by the IG mom, thinking you to be an inactive player. Results in starvation, eventually death.
2. You are powergaming: ex- running around equipped with swords and armour while essentially your char is 2 yr old and doesn't have permission from elders -hunting parties are arranged to kill your char.
Courtesy- The Faery Tale Online Facebook group. Enjoy!
If my character doesn't speak, but posts RP's how could they think I'm inactive?
Quote from: Dante Silverfire on July 22, 2012, 12:51:54 AM
If my character doesn't speak, but posts RP's how could they think I'm inactive?
I meant you post nothing but you are actively playing the game, then that happens. We need to communicate to those IG moms that we are active ones, by posting RPs or *grah guah gaah*
Quote from: Cren on July 22, 2012, 08:40:01 AM
I meant you post nothing but you are actively playing the game, then that happens. We need to communicate to those IG moms that we are active ones, by posting RPs or *grah guah gaah*
Ahh okay.
Well I still think it would be interesting to play a character with a disability such as this. Not being able to speak (or choosing not to ever) will present some challenges but also make things somewhat interesting I suspect.
Been there, done that. ;) It was interesting in the beginning, but after some time, I was wishing I hadn't taken that road because it was growing a bit old over the time and also somewhat frustrating when trying to have my character raise her children with a mostly inactive father...
Pregnant Mothers: 4
Your position in the birth queue is: 123
Quote from: Telrunya on July 19, 2012, 12:15:47 PM
Perma-death matters because you'll have to start over as a child again and wait till you're born again. The number of characters in the server is only limited by the pregnant mothers. This game appears to still be very new, and there have been way more sign-ups then expected, that's why there is such a long queue now. I believe ingame time has been sped up right now etc. to increase the birth rate. It's most certainly a very interesting approach, this method, and that's pretty much what has got me curious :P
I remember signing up for this game several years ago. Back then I waited for 6 or so months without getting born.
Since I'm in the inactive clan, I probably can't ever get into FTO since I'll be dropped into the passive due to forgetting...
Well, i dont know about RP'ing just born child, but atleast for first time i think it is important time to learn how the place and game works. I'm not over all very much HC rp at BM... but i'm in love with this game already... maybby not RPing my self a lot, but i do enjoy other peoples RP's... and who knows i might start to make more by my self.
-Jaune
QuoteYour position in the birth queue is: 96
Joining the under 100 club! Now to wait for 4 inactives to come back....
goo goo ga... gerp... bwa bwa! snnnfff burp pah! da da! oooo gurgle... *poop*
(How did I do? Can you feel the angst and desire to be a future hero and amazing fighter? Can you sense my "hardcore" literary and RPing genius?)
Pure genius.
/me searches for the "RP Medal" link
Your position in the birth queue is: 1337
Pregnant Mothers: π
Quote from: Indirik on July 19, 2012, 04:09:37 AM
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 155
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 100
In one week I moved up 55 spots. At this rate, it's going to be another 2 weeks before I even get a character. And then another 6 or 8 weeks before my character can do anything more than poop her diapers.
Depends. There have been a bit of slow births lately. Sometimes they can give birth to as many as 14 kids at once!
If you absolutely hate the thought of playing as a child, you could also try a game named Cantr (www.cantr.net). It has some things in common with FTO, but the whole family system doesn't exist and characters simply appear out of nowhere at the age of 20. Personally, I have always preferred getting born into families because it also makes integration much easier, but I've never had many problems playing as a child either.
There are some major differences between Cantr and FTO, though. No family system in Cantr also means there isn't a birth queue and you can start playing right away (well, as soon as your account got manually accepted). Cantr doesn't have a fantasy setting and the only race you can play is humans, so the atmosphere is quite different from that of FTO. Magic doesn't exist either. But something that Cantr is offering that FTO doesn't have are different language groups, which might be especially interesting for BM players who aren't native speakers of English and who would like to roleplay in their native language or for people who are trying to improve their skills in a foreign language and would like to roleplay in that language. The language groups don't have separate worlds, so you will likely encounter characters of a different language group sooner or later. Emotes are written in *asterisks*, just like in FTO. And like in any comparable game, your playing experience of course depends greatly on where you spawn and on who the players (and characters) around your character will be.
Some people prefer Cantr, some people prefer FTO, some people don't like either of these games. I guess you'd have to try it out to find out which of these groups you belong to.
Thanks Andira for covering so much. I'm a long time FTO player myself, since 2009, I actually played the Eve of the Dark Elf race. How races were generated at first is through the creator creating an Adam and Eve of each race and placing them in regions of the world. So everyone is descended from those initial players.
It makes for a lot of fun.
ONE WARNING. If you grow up and become of mating age, you will most likely mate with your brother or your sister. I know that in RL there are reasons why we are turned off from incest, however those don't exist IG. So characters IG view incest as completely natural as there is no biological or social consequences, don't bring OOC biases IG.
Most of the game's population is broken up into small tribes of 5-15 people with a few cities with 30+ people. Because of this, the diversity of partners is not that common.
If you want me to answer any other questions, feel free to. I'll even answer IC stuff and game mechanics.
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 178
That captcha really sucked!
Quote from: swholmes@gmail.com on July 26, 2012, 03:12:34 AM
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 178
That captcha really sucked!
Well, looks like BM and DF have caused quite a babyboom...
Interesting.
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 122
Seems 2s are popular.
I'm at 99 now. Breaking the 100 barrier... I feel special. :D
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 175
I got reading their Facebook page and ..., well, I'm not so sure some of them know it's a game.
I hope I get them as my parents.
Yeah, some of those people are *very* into the game.
Explaining how FTO works to all of you somehow made me want to play again, too... with the recent adjustments to the racial fertility ages, one of my characters who used to be unable to get babies any longer might be able to revive her colony now. Maybe I'll give it a try, hoping to get at least one child who will stay active this time and one day have children on his/her own. I'm not 100% sure yet that my character actually can get pregnant again now, though, since I don't know the exact fertility ages for the different races.
With a bit of luck, you'll get one of us :P
If you get me I'll do my best to help :-)
We'll see what happens. :) She's the one of my characters who once had seven babies at once, so there's hope she won't just give birth to a single baby that is inactive. But first, I need luck for her being able to get pregnant at all again, heh. At least there's a male volunteering to test it soon. ;)
Quote from: Andira on July 26, 2012, 11:42:34 PM
We'll see what happens. :) She's the one of my characters who once had seven babies at once, so there's hope she won't just give birth to a single baby that is inactive. But first, I need luck for her being able to get pregnant at all again, heh. At least there's a male volunteering to test it soon. ;)
My cat did that once, had 7 babies at once, and it didn't work out well for her. You have my sympathies.
lol, thank you. The birth was horrible for my character and it was a bit stressful to interact with seven active babies at once, trying to make sure none of them would get neglected, but it was also great to see such a birth with not a single inactive baby. Too bad that six of those gave up on their characters sooner or later.
Were their ambitions and spirit absorbed by the seventh one?
Ironically, the seventh one was played by a player who had sent an OOC message that he would not be able to play much for several weeks or even months and that he would just kill off the character for that reason. I offered him to keep the character fed instead so that he could play whenever he has time again, he accepted back then and now I'm glad to see he's actively playing again after I have woken my character. I find it funny that the one who showed the least hope OOCly is the only one still alive now.
I must show little hope of activity then. It's easy since I'm in the Inactive clan.
And who else is in that clan?
Probably Zak, but he's too inactive to respond to the clan invitation.
Yeah I am in the inactive clan with Foundation. We are currently recruiting :D. Trying to dominate all of BM through the power of inactivity and gold hoarding!
Hmm... Still weeks to go before I can play :o
You have my sympathy that you still have to wait weeks before you can be inactive in FTO. ;)
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 171
There were no pregnant mothers yesterday, how did I move up in the queue?
Some other players in the queue may have gone inactive. If you don't log in at least once a week, even if you don't have characters, your queue place goes inactive, and everyone starts moving around you. Or maybe some people ahead of you canceled their character.
If nothing unexpected happens, two of my characters and a third woman who shares the mate with one of my characters will be pregnant later today.
What polygamy!
Who said the cultures all had to be monogamous? That would be boring. ;)
I think that incestuous polygamy is the rule in FTO.
Yes, please. We still have a lot of queue to go through ;)
It has really slowed down, too. I've only moved up 4 places in three days. And there are no pregnant mothers right now. :(
Yeah, gotta wait for the next wave.
Get to the... Chopper?
One is pregnant, one to go. ;) (Or more two if you count in the other woman.) And the one that is pregnant now was the one that I had doubts about because of her age, so yay, it worked.
Edit: Okay, the unexpected did happen for the other character. Sorry, no more pregnancies from my characters today, but 1 pregnant mother is at least better than none.
UnExpecteD! :-o What could that be????
The wild speculations about what could be unexpected in the FTO world may start. :p
However, we did find a compromise now, haha. Only my character got impregnated, not the other woman, so there are two pregnant mothers overall now with my other character and I will hopefully move the queue a bit for all of you.
Whoa, preferential treatment! Polygamy gambit.
Yes, it's a hard polygamous world.
*sighs* I didn't have much luck... both births resulted in only a single baby each and neither of the two baby players really seems to want to play the game from what it looks like right now. (They have both been online already, but didn't even try to roleplay anything, even after my OOC explanations of how things work.)
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 93
I moved up a few places.
More than 2 places?
Your position in the birth queue is: 74
Dumdum! I'm about halfway from where i started :P
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 112
Psh, you guys need to go inactive so I can move in front of you. 8)
Quote from: Andira on July 30, 2012, 04:52:26 AM
More than 2 places?
2 or 3, I forget which. I moved up one more, too: 92.
I am just behind Rob, probably our chars would be born to the same mother.
Unless she has just a single baby like my chars had.
Quote from: Andira on July 30, 2012, 08:00:40 PM
Unless she has just a single baby like my chars had.
Hope we get born to the IG Mom.
I got both of my characters pregnant again in the hope for better luck with active babies this time. There's also another woman in my dwarf's colony pregnant, making 3 pregnant mothers in total now. :)
That... is really fast.
I'm not complaining. 84 more babies to go!
Well, it's just boring when the babies are inactive. And after the 20th or so time, one really doesn't feel any longer like playing a huge drama about babies that never wake because the new players behind them didn't like the game after all, so the best thing to do is just to try again and get active babies. ;)
Maybe I will have the baby make monkey noises so everyone thinks it's a monkey rather than a baby. :P
I don't know why your comment made me think of that.
lol, even if it's a monkey, it would be better than no noise and no activity at all.
Maybe waiting 3 months to get a character contributes to the low percentage of active newborns.
Quote from: Foundation on July 31, 2012, 03:24:23 AM
Maybe waiting 3 months to get a character contributes to the low percentage of active newborns.
Probably. I'm losing my interest already just because you have to wait so long.
Meh, I don't think so. I think the issue is with people joining who don't realize its a pure-RP game and get intimidated by that fact. If they were inactive from the start they wouldn't even be born.
That's a good point. I wonder how many are looking for a particular race/location, and abandon characters who don't fit the bill.
They need a way to adopt those abandoned kids.
Anyone hear an adoption program shortening the queue????
Makes sense to me to take all those abandoned characters and toss them out to the next person in the queue. Maybe just list them on the website on a first-come-first-served basis.
Yeah, something like that has been suggested before, I think, when the forums were still... well, real forums that had a section for feature requests. I can't remember if that suggestion was approved or not, though.
Giving the whole account away to someone who wants to play is often a problem, too, especially when only one character on the account is unwanted and others aren't, since there is no way to split a single character from an account. And something that could also pose a problem is that when taking over somebody else's account, you'd be able to download the life logs of all deceased characters on that account and some players wouldn't want strangers to read through their characters' lives.
So it would be really great if there was an option to abandon a single character on an account and automatically give it to the next person in the queue if it's still a baby. And for an adult no longer wanted character maybe an option to just send it over to the account of a person of your choice (since it's mostly not a very good idea to hand older, already established and maybe even powerful characters to a random person... if at all, that would have to be somebody hand-picked by the player. It's quite disturbing if a character's behavior suddenly changes drastically, so the new player of an adult character would need some kind of introduction from the old player, too. Since all of that is quite complicated, players often prefer to just let older characters die instead of handing them to another player.)
Oh, and it seems one of the babies isn't inactive after all. :) The player sent an OOC message that they do intend to play the character, just had some technical problems before that prevented them from writing.
One boy for my dwarf, three girls for my other character today. We'll see who of them will be active. And this time, I have nothing to do with the 2 new pregnant mothers and no clue who they are. ;)
Seems they're getting it on again!
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 147
POS 50.
Cmooooooooooonnnnnnn. Almost there!
I want to be a Pixie, or a Dragon, perhaps a Dark Elf. How many races does FTO flaunts?
Sorry, you can't be a dragon. Dragons as actual player characters do exist, but they're not a race, just special creatures put in for flavor. They don't reproduce.
You could have more luck with your other wishes, though. ;) And I'm not sure I know every race in FTO, but I do know of at least 13. (Well, it depends a bit on the definition of what counts as separate race because there are a few species that have separate "branches" that are completely independent from each other at different places throughout the FTO world with different ancestors and sometimes also slight variations in their racial description.)
Pregnant Mothers: 4
Your position in the birth queue is: 78
Things seem to be speeding up ;)
Pregnant Mothers: 4
Your position in the birth queue is: 70
Indeed, i can almost hear noises outside my mommys belly!
Not many a game gets 11 pages of forum posts before anyone actually managed to get into the game ;D
lol, yes. Hope the game stays up to our expectations. :-)
Of course I hope you'll have lots of fun, too, and that you'll end up in families that are fun to play in. Some colonies might need a little nudge against inactivity and active children are usually a good way to get a few things going again.
Oh, and 6 pregnant mothers... now they're really getting it going. ;)
I can't wait. <3
I can wait. 8)
The Races and their Fantasy Names(IG Names). Followed by brief remarks that I've seen by them. They are separated by the continents or islands that they are together on. Keep in mind I may be off on what races are near each other or whatnot, may have messed up some names or info, this is just stuff I've observed over the years.
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Humans(Kindred)-The very first race. Their Adam and Eve were the creator Lumin and his wife. The area is somewhat cold and mountainous.
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Humans(Magratheans)- Another human race. They and the others here belong on what is a very hot continent that is similar to Africa, covered in deserts/mountains and jungles.
Anubian(Egyptian) Bipedal Dogs (Anu)- Very large race. They are known for their religion which worships the sun god, Aten. They almost died out, but I believe some purebreeds survived in their capital.
Jungle Elves (Nolgian)- They tend to be very peaceful and live in pretty pleasant places such as beaches and cloud mountains. They worship a diety called Din.
Lizardmen- I know hardly anything about them, they come from the far south of the continent I believe, only seen one's corpse before.
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Dark Elves (Moonkin) - The race that I actually "created" as played the Eve of it. They tend to be a very xenophobic race that has a strange burial tradition that requires that those who have died be placed in the lake of their capital and holy land, Moonglade, so that their souls can return to the heavens.
Dwarves (Stoneshaper) - They have some very elaborate tunnel systems and cool underground cities. Some of the best armored characters I've seen were Stoneshapers.
Gargoyles - Know little of this race. They live to the south of the Stoneshapers and Moonkin. All of these races inhabit a fairly warm island that is covered in forests, swamps, and a long mountain range.
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Orcs (Kutari)- I played one briefly. They were not very organized and always talked very guttural. They worship the mountain that is their home, Mount Kutari.
Fairy People- Never actually saw one. But, they are very small, less than a meter long and live in the forests of the same island.
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Ice Elves- They live in a very cold and inhospitable land covered in tundra, glaciers, and a few taiga's and bogs. When I played one they were very tribal and primitive, mostly living in huts and wearing bone armor.
Yeti People- Again, I know little of this race. But, they are bipedal massive apes that are covered in thick white fur.
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(these races are spread out and in no clear location)
Frog People- They reside on a chain of volcanic islands. Unlike the other races, they can travel into ocean squares and collect the resources there or move to other lands.
Mermaids- I played one briefly. They live in the ocean obviously. They have no familial structure and rather live communally as all children are seen as the children of the community.
High Elves- Very rare. They have the inate magical power to teleport to any place that they have been to before.
Well, that's all that I'm aware of. Keep in mind that there are also many half-breeds out there as races can intermingle. Some are positive towards this and others are very hostile to mixed races.
...I can't f*cking wait. x2
I know those high elves you mentioned as nymphs. And I had so far held back on giving too much detailed information on the races in case other players might enjoy the surprise of discovering new races in the game as much as I did when I was new, hehe. But I guess that's too late now. ;)
And I actually know a second dwarven race that is on a different continent than the Stoneshapers. They are called delvers and were on the edge of extinction when only one girl and her two uncles were left after most others had been murdered by one of their own race who had gone crazy. But they did manage to keep the race alive and reproduced.
The gargoyles (Aelleri) are extinct from what I have been told.
I can still wait. 8)
Don't really have much choice, do we?
Was there any recent feature addition to the game, especially new races?
I don't know of any new races that have been added recently, but there have been some changes lately to allow long-lived races to be fertile for longer. Not sure if that could be called a feature, though.
QuoteDon't really have much choice, do we?
Well... a character has come to me, his player no longer playing.
Send a PM to me if you're interested in taking over playing a 34 year old male Stoneshaper (the race is long lived).
Quote from: Brant on August 02, 2012, 06:12:41 PMSend a PM to me if you're interested in taking over playing a 34 year old male Stoneshaper (the race is long lived).
What? And risk the enjoyment of RPing your character crapping in their diapers, learning to crawl, learning to talk, laerning to walk... Why, you'd be missing out on the entire point of the game! ::)
Well, that's the perfect opportunity for someone who doesn't want to play a child. ;)
If someone has missed it, the Stoneshapers are dwarves. I'm playing in that race, too.
But... but... it's a male. Pregnant males don't decrease the queue.
Males do decrease the queue! :P There are several females out there who can't get pregnant because there's no male around for them. Funny, do you now all want to play a child after all?
..... oooh.. beardy
Wait, inter-race copulation!!! Crossing geological isolation, genetic isolation and most of all mechanical isolation???
/me loses consciousness.
can't wait :) 45 more to go. Keep working ladies.
What am I fighting for.
Quote from: Andira on August 02, 2012, 07:12:21 PM
Males do decrease the queue! :P There are several females out there who can't get pregnant because there's no male around for them. Funny, do you now all want to play a child after all?
This. Generally there are actually more females than males. Especially active females. The majority of FTO's players are females, this is the reason why I believe.
Hmm, I don't trust gender statistics on the interwebs.
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 66
Get to the... not kitchen?
34 more to go!
39! <3
Your position in the birth queue is: 49
Just to correct what I wrote earlier: It seems the gargoyles aren't completely extinct yet. Four females are still alive, but two of them are already very old. I'm not sure if the other two are still young enough to be fertile, but even if they are, they don't have a male to mate with. And since some racist attitudes against their race exist on the continent, it would be hard for them to find a male from another race to at least get some crossbreed babies.
This is a perfect example of how males really do help the queue, too. ;)
So if a race goes extinct, does the game developer takes steps to revive them in the future, by adam-eve method or something else?
When the game started, the fairy race had some bad problems because the combat system wasn't really balanced yet and a young child could simply kill the Adam and Eve. When that happened, the developer did revive the Adam and Eve and even gave the Eve a new Adam after the first went inactive.
I'm not sure what his current policy about races going extinct is, though. Maybe he'll just let it happen as part of the game world, maybe he'll decide to do something about it at some point, I don't know. Maybe he is not even aware that the race is on the edge of extinction.
Quote from: Andira on August 05, 2012, 08:22:24 PMAnd since some racist attitudes against their race exist on the continent, it would be hard for them to find a male from another race to at least get some crossbreed babies.
Racist attitudes toward sex? In a game where repeated incestuous mating to propagate the species is not only commonplace, it's the accepted routine, normal practice? Pfft...
Well, incest means the characters like characters who look similar them, doesn't it? ;)
Just out of curiosity, was the gender, the race or the age (or the missing surprise of which race one would get born to) the reason that nobody was interested in playing the 34-year-old Stoneshaper male?
Meh, if you're going to play the game, why not go for the whole experience? For me, my first character will go the whole nine yards. Maybe after that, if I'm still interested, we'll see what happens. (Not that that character would still be available, I'm just sayin'...)
1. Old.
2. Not a woman.
3. Not a man.
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 116
Starting to lose interest on having to check on my queue.
Let me clarify my original points:
1. Older than a baby.
2. Not woman enough to have babies.
3. Not man enough to have babies.
I don't know about others but I don't want to play that stoneshaper solely because I want to start my own RP background. For that I have to start a new character. :-)
Quote from: Indirik on August 05, 2012, 09:53:04 PM
Racist attitudes toward sex? In a game where repeated incestuous mating to propagate the species is not only commonplace, it's the accepted routine, normal practice? Pfft...
Well one race on that specific continent, the Dark Elves, I pushed culturally towards hating and loathing any other race.
Because the other races do not get buried in the holy city when they die, I taught them that all monsters in the world are the souls of those who were not 'Returned'(buried in the holy city).
I believe I had two of my sons murder some gargoyle wanderer and someone else. It was pretty awesome. I don't know if there are any purebreed dark elves left though, I know that one of them had a lot of children with a dwarf. That caused a lot of infighting.
Quote from: Indirik on August 06, 2012, 03:04:40 AM
Meh, if you're going to play the game, why not go for the whole experience? For me, my first character will go the whole nine yards. Maybe after that, if I'm still interested, we'll see what happens. (Not that that character would still be available, I'm just sayin'...)
In other words, Indirik doesn't want to miss out on the awesome newborn baby RP opportunities ;)
So far the reading of this topic have been interesting (including the "gogo gaga" baby roleplay) keep it up guys.
peace!
We're getting ready for lady.
Quote from: Andira on August 06, 2012, 03:02:03 AM
Well, incest means the characters like characters who look similar them, doesn't it? ;)
Just out of curiosity, was the gender, the race or the age (or the missing surprise of which race one would get born to) the reason that nobody was interested in playing the 34-year-old Stoneshaper male?
I believe people want to have their own characters. I would personally love to play the Stoneshaper, but in my own account. For some reason that seems important, but maybe I'm thinking way too much in a Battlemaster mindset... Perhaps I'll take it, after all.
Actually, it's possible to merge accounts so that you could integrate the characters from another account into your own. There are some bugs that can happen with that merging, like the one that my account has that I can't send myself any e-mail logs for any of my characters any longer, but not all merged accounts are bugged. You just have to be especially unlucky like me to get a bugged one. ;)
Hmpf... queue is moving backwards. Yesterday I was 4 in order today I'm 51...
That doesnt sound right?
I know it can have few here and there, but almost 50 steps back doesnt sound right... especially cause i'm around 44 now, i should have fell far away.
It was a typo. I meant to write that I was 48 yesterday.
Aah, those few steps mean just that someone who had not logged in for a week(?) logged in and got back his spot on queue.
I signed up a few days ago to have a look. I was put into position 165 in the queue. Today I'm at 147.
I'm sorry, but the game designer fails at basic customer retention - you can only make your fans wait if they already are your fans. You can not make new players wait.
At this rate, by the time I can join the game, I won't care anymore.
Quote from: Tom on August 08, 2012, 12:06:00 PM
I signed up a few days ago to have a look. I was put into position 165 in the queue. Today I'm at 147.
I'm sorry, but the game designer fails at basic customer retention - you can only make your fans wait if they already are your fans. You can not make new players wait.
At this rate, by the time I can join the game, I won't care anymore.
I've been watching this game for years. Every time I sign up to play I run into the same problem, by time the queue ticks down I'm busy doing other things again. No matter how good the game is it can't "grab" me if I never actually get to play it.
Well, i would have given up long time ago normally, but this "collective waiting" makes it easier... and that Cantr :)
Atleast finnish language people are pretty much stone age people :D I'm having good time with those few other finns there(just got my bone knife made and started to do boomerang), made one char to english zone and these guys are far more advanced and organized and far more people. I dont know how i have missed this kind of games so far?!?
Quote from: jaune on August 08, 2012, 12:48:44 PM
Well, i would have given up long time ago normally, but this "collective waiting" makes it easier... and that Cantr :)
Atleast finnish language people are pretty much stone age people :D I'm having good time with those few other finns there(just got my bone knife made and started to do boomerang), made one char to english zone and these guys are far more advanced and organized and far more people. I dont know how i have missed this kind of games so far?!?
They often don't show up on google unless you know the name of the game :)
Yeah, but still... I have been on multiplayer "browsergames" since ~1998. But somehow these more serious rpg games have been hidden from me :) So i have been playing pretty much strategy games.
Quote from: jaune on August 08, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
Yeah, but still... I have been on multiplayer "browsergames" since ~1998. But somehow these more serious rpg games have been hidden from me :) So i have been playing pretty much strategy games.
Neither Cantr or FTO showed up on any of the browser game review sites I regularly check. Both did come up on a german browser game top list (germans make some of the best browser games and alot of the best ones haven't been translated to english) , but neither appeared on any of the more popular lists. Originally I came across FTO via people playing this game http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/
In 8 days, I've moved from 66 to 62. I move almost as many slots backward as forward.
It's been three weeks since I signed up. And at the rate things are going now, it will be another 10-12 weeks before I get to start. If it weren't for the fact that the community here makes waiting entertaining, I would have forgotten all about this game.
I know from my time with Cantr that they have a separate staff department for advertisement, but maybe that department is understaffed if none of you have ever seen the game listed anywhere.
And FTO... well, maybe the game creator didn't bother to list the game anywhere, I don't know.
The time that it takes until an account in the queue gets marked as inactive is definitely 7 days, since I have found this in the game's "Help" section:
QuoteThe birth queue works to the advantage of players who sign into the game frequently. Each time a player logs-in, a 7 day timer will be set for his account that marks his position as "active". In the "active" state, he will appear in the queue and be born like normal. If the player does not log into the game for a duration longer than 7 days, his birth queue position will be set as "passive".
The text is misleading, though, since a player who signs up and then doesn't log in again for like 3 weeks won't really have any kind of disadvantage. They will keep moving through the queue like everyone else, just "invisible". They just won't be born until they log in again, but they can move all the way through the whole queue while being "passive".
I've been wondering if it might be a good idea to simply put some accounts into the queue and not log into them again to have them go passive, leave them there for about 2 months so that they will have moved up the queue to position 0 and then give them to new people wanting to play to spare them the wait.
Quote from: Andira on August 08, 2012, 03:55:12 PM
I know from my time with Cantr that they have a separate staff department for advertisement, but maybe that department is understaffed if none of you have ever seen the game listed anywhere.
And FTO... well, maybe the game creator didn't bother to list the game anywhere, I don't know.
The time that it takes until an account in the queue gets marked as inactive is definitely 7 days, since I have found this in the game's "Help" section:
The text is misleading, though, since a player who signs up and then doesn't log in again for like 3 weeks won't really have any kind of disadvantage. They will keep moving through the queue like everyone else, just "invisible". They just won't be born until they log in again, but they can move all the way through the whole queue while being "passive".
I've been wondering if it might be a good idea to simply put some accounts into the queue and not log into them again to have them go passive, leave them there for about 2 months so that they will have moved up the queue to position 0 and then give them to new people wanting to play to spare them the wait.
I just fired up my old account to see where I was in the birth queue. Found out I wasn't in the queue at all, I was last time I logged in, but that was more the 6 months ago.
Huh, that is weird. Maybe there's actually a time limit then? Though it still seems weird to me. Did you actually click the button to join the queue when you created that account back then?
Quote from: Andira on August 09, 2012, 04:11:02 AM
Huh, that is weird. Maybe there's actually a time limit then? Though it still seems weird to me. Did you actually click the button to join the queue when you created that account back then?
Oh yes, and I logged in every day for about a month hoping to actually get into the game
Quote from: Andira on August 08, 2012, 06:16:44 AM
Actually, it's possible to merge accounts so that you could integrate the characters from another account into your own. There are some bugs that can happen with that merging, like the one that my account has that I can't send myself any e-mail logs for any of my characters any longer, but not all merged accounts are bugged. You just have to be especially unlucky like me to get a bugged one. ;)
Oh, in that case I'm definitely interested if no one else is. But maybe we could use the account for BMers to try the game and see if it's worth the wait. I thought some people would be interested in that, being able to pass forward the account in case of not really enjoying it...
I think you need to log in every 7 days to avoid becoming inactive hehe. ;)
Only while you're in the queue. Living characters won't ever get deleted for inactivity, no matter how long you're gone. They could starve if nobody feeds them, though.
Pregnant Mothers: 4
Your position in the birth queue is: 58
I think Cren is right behind me in the queue. And, wow, does he cry a lot. Maybe he needs a new diaper.
Pregnant Mothers: 4
Your position in the birth queue is: 25
Another two weeks to go...
Spot 138 for me. Sorry, this is ridiculous.
The pace has really slowed down lately, too. It's down to about one spot per day.
Again, we're bombing the server of a small-time, tight-knit community long-term serious-RP game.
What did you expect? :-P I'm surprised its even letting anyone else onto the game, heh.
Ah Indirik, you have a lot of responsibility on your hands since you are (hopefully) going to be my elder brother (or sister) ;-)
I will be sure to torment you. Being the youngest of six kids, I have plenty of experience to draw on.
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 102
Whoa, I just jumped 10 positions down overnight!
I'm in the 20s! <3
Srsly? I dropped by 6, to 52.
You people and your mysterious jumps for joy.
You all have more fun waiting in line than to play the game.
Is like a race to see who goes first....... is sad...
peace!
I wish it was a race. -_-
It's like the tortoise and the hare. Except someone replace the hare with a snail.
Oh, I'll have fun in the game. I have 3 kids, I know exactly how the little buggers act...
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 13
8)
Everyone, gang up on Zak!
Quote from: Foundation on August 11, 2012, 02:33:39 AM
Everyone, gang up on Zak!
Zakilevo builds bunkers and tanks to hold out against Peter's cracklings.
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Your position in the birth queue is: 37
wow, I might get born before Christmas.
Quote from: Zakilevo on August 11, 2012, 02:09:27 AM
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 13
You get born yet?
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Your position in the birth queue is: 6
About to >:D
That pregnant mother is mine. ;)
I wonder if one of you lot will end up as my parent...
How low are you in the queue?
I signed up only yesterday and thus are waaaay back at 151 in the queue
Its possible. :-P That would be quite hilarious.
Oh, 151. Okay, a lot can happen until then. ;)
Oh !@#$!
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Your position in the birth queue is: 12
110 - I think this is the final time I take a look. Apparently, whoever made the game doesn't really want new players, maintaining some design concept of everyone being born this way and this way only is more important. Sad.
Tom, you don't really understand how the game works. Also, the creator doesn't give a crap - that's true. He abandoned the game and isn't really up for suggestions and barely even pays attention to it. Its not getting expanded, there's no staff, and its run by one guy who doesn't really bother at all. Its meant as a small-time game and that's about it.
That there's actually a QUEUE OF 150 PEOPLE is insane. That means at least 150 people waiting in line! The game isn't designed to have anywhere near that number, much less waiting to get into the game at a time. This was and will be a small-time, tight-knit, super-serious RP community game.
Quote from: Ehndras on August 12, 2012, 09:02:39 AM
Tom, you don't really understand how the game works.
Apparently, neither does its creator. When BM started, it was intended to be something totally different from what it is now. But the game is not mine alone, it belongs to the players just as much, and sometimes you just have to go with the flow. The switch from one to two game worlds was horrible, because it wasn't designed for that, but it just had to be done, BM had an overpopulation problem, too.
These days, we have more of an underpopulation problem, which also means certain things in the game had to be changed.
Quote from: Tom on August 12, 2012, 01:58:45 PM
Apparently, neither does its creator. When BM started, it was intended to be something totally different from what it is now. But the game is not mine alone, it belongs to the players just as much, and sometimes you just have to go with the flow. The switch from one to two game worlds was horrible, because it wasn't designed for that, but it just had to be done, BM had an overpopulation problem, too.
These days, we have more of an underpopulation problem, which also means certain things in the game had to be changed.
Sadly a lot of founders (and not just of online games) fall into the trap of thinking that their opinion is the only one that matters.
Quote from: Iltaran on August 12, 2012, 03:28:40 PM
Sadly a lot of founders (and not just of online games) fall into the trap of thinking that their opinion is the only one that matters.
It's not entirely false. Every project, every product, every company needs a strong leader with a strong vision.
It's just that there's a difference between strength and rigidity. Constantly adapting your vision to reality is part of being strong. All great leaders show that trait, all failed ones lack it.
+1
thing is... at the end of the day, it's his stuff XD
people can't take his stuff and do something else with it, unless they make their own version.
This thread was actually really entertaining. Just read it all in one go. Did you get in yet, Zak?
You better have gotten in, Zak. :P
Quote from: Foundation on August 13, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
You better have gotten in, Zak. :P
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 5
Nope :(
Quick, have about 20 inactives come back before Zak gets in.
/me calls together the members of the inactive clan, who take an average of infinity to respond.
My character got only 2 babies and I guess the other pregnant mother wasn't luckier either. But at least one of these two is active, that's something. :)
So, I took the Dwarf in his late thirties and the game seems very cool and interesting. Filled with potential, but lacking lots of code. If it had half the Dev Team BM has (I'm talking about more about quality than quantity, specially in their interaction with the community) it would be simply awesome.
Is it littered with "TODO feature"? :)
Your position in the queue is 3.
I guess I made the queue to jump for some.
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Your position in the birth queue is: 2
1 kid was born.
You know all the fun of this game will be gone the moment you're actually in the game, right? ;)
Oh, sure. It's like christmas in that sense.
Like all aspects of RL.
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Congratulations, you're next in line to be born!
Oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
WOO!
Grats!
Also, Pos. 5!
You people and your longer wait times. Remember to reach puberty asap.
/me yawns...
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 31
I think I'm averaging one spot a day now. And it keeps going up and down. If you let your queue spot go inactive, your position should be locked, not keep on moving.
We so excited. -_-
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 51
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 2
WOOOOOOOOOO
You might be born into one of the colonies I'm in then (the one where the fail pregnancy that was mentioned on facebook was produced, lol).
I am a cat!
Lucky bastard, I love cats!
Quote from: Indirik on August 17, 2012, 07:46:07 PM
/me yawns...
Pregnant Mothers: 3
Your position in the birth queue is: 31
I think I'm averaging one spot a day now. And it keeps going up and down. If you let your queue spot go inactive, your position should be locked, not keep on moving.
I agree with Indirik on this. What the point of advantage of an active player over inactive one other than remaining visible? I'm clueless!
I don't know why the queue was done the way it is, but if a player is really completely inactive in the queue and doesn't log in again, they won't get born.
I've been born and well-received by KITTIES! <3 I really like this game :D The community is great, there's buildings and crafting and all sorts of items, their own languages, cultures, religions, and all sorts of interesting stuff!
Just born as a... Dwarf! Now I have two of them, one 37 years old (the account from the inactive player that was passed on to me) and this newborn one. In different islands, luckily.
Yeah, now you're part of the two different dwarf races. ;)
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 170
Ah c'mon... this game is nuts
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 6
WOhooo, i'm so close to win this game already!
I'm a fish person! v_v
Better watch out for those giant scorpions. ;)
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Congratulations, you're next in line to be born!
YAaarrrr!!
Oh god, if I am judging by how jaune plays King KK, then this will be.... interesting.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on August 19, 2012, 04:56:32 PM
I'm a fish person! v_v
Damn, I'm very jealous. I wanted to be one of those!
Quote from: Indirik on August 19, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Better watch out for those giant scorpions. ;)
ROFL ;D
If anyone ends up becoming an Anubis or Cat, I'll trade ya accounts.
I'm a female cat-person called Malky (I was allowed to pick my own name because I thought my given name sucked ass! :D) who got lucky and has extraordinary dexterity, WOO!
I want an anubis o_O I've put myself back in the queue and already dropped 20 positions in the last day and a half, heh.
So, it seems I'm a giant carnivorous cat (8 feet? I mean, seriously?) with translucent fur and skin... whoah! Well, that will be if someone feeds me or something like that, because I'm damn famelic crying all the time and I don't still know if the RP's of the others comforting a crying cat go for me, mainly because they say a name and I'm tagged as unnamed (¿?) Oh man, I'm really lost here...
I am 23rd on the queue.
Quote from: D'Espana on August 20, 2012, 05:00:36 PM
So, it seems I'm a giant carnivorous cat (8 feet? I mean, seriously?) with translucent fur and skin... whoah! Well, that will be if someone feeds me or something like that, because I'm damn famelic crying all the time and I don't still know if the RP's of the others comforting a crying cat go for me, mainly because they say a name and I'm tagged as unnamed (¿?) Oh man, I'm really lost here...
I'll happily take that cat off your hands, because I wanted to be one.
Quote from: D'Espana on August 20, 2012, 05:00:36 PM
So, it seems I'm a giant carnivorous cat (8 feet? I mean, seriously?) with translucent fur and skin... whoah! Well, that will be if someone feeds me or something like that, because I'm damn famelic crying all the time and I don't still know if the RP's of the others comforting a crying cat go for me, mainly because they say a name and I'm tagged as unnamed (¿?) Oh man, I'm really lost here...
Use *blah blah blah* to roleplay emotes. Also, you click 'unnamed' and rename yourself, just like you can click 'little girl', 'little boy', 'adult female', ETC. You have to assign the names to every character because by nature you don't know who they are and thus, they have no names. Find out names from RP-emotes and assign them as you figure them out. Also, get on the FTO IRC and they'll teach you how to play and what to do, the cat folks are very nice :-)
Quote from: Ehndras on August 20, 2012, 11:14:54 PM
Use *blah blah blah* to roleplay emotes. Also, you click 'unnamed' and rename yourself, just like you can click 'little girl', 'little boy', 'adult female', ETC. You have to assign the names to every character because by nature you don't know who they are and thus, they have no names. Find out names from RP-emotes and assign them as you figure them out. Also, get on the FTO IRC and they'll teach you how to play and what to do, the cat folks are very nice :-)
Yep, I have already done the IRC thing, and they told me something similar to what you posted. I have also gone back in this post and found some *very* useful FAQ's, so from now on it should be easier.
I'll tell you if I get bored, Gustav, but thanks to the info I got in the IRC now I see everything a hundred thousand times brighter, so it seems that I won't give up. At least by now...
If anyone wants my feline character send me a message.
Just in case somebody has joined this topic later: Make sure you read my posts on pages 3 and 4 of this topic, they will answer a lot of questions you might have about the game.
#11
Next in line with two pregnant mothers :P
Quote from: Andira on August 22, 2012, 02:41:06 AM
Just in case somebody has joined this topic later: Make sure you read my posts on pages 3 and 4 of this topic, they will answer a lot of questions you might have about the game.
Yeah, I have to say that your posts have been, literally, a life saver. They have been the difference between me saying f*** this thing, I don't understand anything - and my current enjoyment of the game. So, thanks!
Quote from: Telrunya on August 22, 2012, 12:41:56 PM
Next in line with two pregnant mothers :P
Heh, then you will possibly be one of us cat people. I think we had a pregnant mother? Don't know for sure, though.
Glad I could help then. :) Also, feel free to ask here if there are any questions left. Other BM players might have the same questions.
How much work is playing FTO? Is it as much effort as a FTO after looting?
Uhm... I fear I don't get what your second question means. And much like in BattleMaster, you can determine yourself how much time per day you want to spend with playing.
Hehe, FTO => Friendly Takeover, which is almost impossible in the old BM system after an army loots the region being taken over.
Oh! lol Nice pun then.
Hmm... are there trolls in FTO?
Hmm. I was born something in a Taiga. While I appear to be a weakling, I have extraordinary dexterity with what it seems a tiny affinity for Masonry. Now the quest of having no clue begins! Hopefully my mother is a good teacher :P
Seems someone mentioned 'talian' as race, but I don't seem to be able to name people. I click on the blue 'a teenage girl' from the birth event, or in the inhabitants list, but nothing happens.
EDIT: Never mind it worked. Cant use the event apparently, but you get a little text box when clicking on it when someone speaks, was looking for some separate screen or popup. We also seem to be rather blue/purple :P
There are probably old fashioned trolls in FTO, no? What fantasy game can do without the good ol' trollzor? :P
The Talians are something like night elves or ice elves.
And yeah, the birth event and enter/exit messages can't be used to name people for some reason, but normal roleplay messages can.
Cool, guess I'm not around with any others, but I'm sure the players there will be helpful and tolerant of a complete newbie with no clue what to do :P
Back to spot 164 in the birth queue!
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 37
Not sure how long this is going to take now.
Quote from: Indirik on August 22, 2012, 03:38:35 PM
Hmm... are there trolls in FTO?
There are supposedly some trolls which are mercilessly killed upon birth, and there has been some accusations of cliques in some colonies. The usual.
I seemed to born nice place! I have a twin brother, we are named and well taken care of by mom and dad and other relatives(aunt and grandmother).
This game is teasing :P First you await very long time to get in, and then you wait to get on "action" :) But then again thats what makes this game even more unique.
Well Foundation you are welcome to be the Troll Adam.
As long as I can find a Troll Eve. :P
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 7
Damn it... Now they're just teasing me. The last 4 or 5 pregnancies have only moved me down 2 or 3 spots.
There seems to be people who leave the account inactive only to reactivate it when reaching the end of the line /and/ someone they now being pregnant. That way they can play in the desired colony (or have a higher chance to, at least). That might be it...
how do they know they are at the front?!
It wouldn't surprise me if some people had. Many accounts they keep on hold until they need one.
I was born as some furry Yeti-like creature in the Icecaps. Whohoo. Took a while to figure out how to emote but after I started to chew on my bedpost someone actually fed me.
emote = FTO emoticon? :O
The last 4 mothers had single babies. Graaaaagh!
#8 currently.
??? You can't be #8!
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 8
Oh hell no! #9 now, another inactive has awakened from slumber!
#12....
So long...
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 25
Do we have the entire first 30-50? :P
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 51
I swear, I'm going to take my waiting frustration out on my virtual parents!
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Your position in the birth queue is: 6
allegedly.. i'm next.
will know when i get there.
#7
Quote from: fodder on August 26, 2012, 07:09:56 PM
allegedly.. i'm next.
will know when i get there.
Pregnant Mothers: 1
Your position in the birth queue is: 49
So, um, no offense, but if you become female-please be a slut.
i think that takes a while. starts off as baby and all that.
... this thread makes me question humanity. Is this what actual babies are thinking before they are born? (at which time they are slowly brainwashed for 1-3 years)
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 4
.... sort of born. in ice cap. no name yet.
right.. need to figure out where to look up the gender... and how to do italics, etc XD
---
ok... sorted... males only.
and stars for action..
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 122
lalalala, anyone knows another game I can play in the meantime? :P
strangely... i'm grinding something called "uncharted waters online"... and i thought i saw a d'este there a while back.
Quote from: fodder on August 27, 2012, 11:15:26 AM
strangely... i'm grinding something called "uncharted waters online"... and i thought i saw a d'este there a while back.
A copy cat I guess, wasnt me.
#5 now, another bugger seems to have awakened.
@D'Este- Try Cantr II (http://www.cantr.net). :-)
D'Este - Try BM. :P
Quote from: fodder on August 27, 2012, 08:22:34 AM
.... sort of born. in ice cap. no name yet.
right.. need to figure out where to look up the gender... and how to do italics, etc XD
---
ok... sorted... males only.
and stars for action..
Oooh, you may well be my slightly younger brother.
next problem.. how to mix action with conversation... i stick stars around the action bit... and then type normally.. but it seems to just turn out to be baby talk instead of action + baby talk
Indirik, where did you get born?
Quote from: fodder on August 28, 2012, 07:03:33 AM
next problem.. how to mix action with conversation... i stick stars around the action bit... and then type normally.. but it seems to just turn out to be baby talk instead of action + baby talk
In your first year, you can't mix them. You need to do the action separately from the speaking (Speaking will turn into baby talk). Start with * and end with *, if there's like a space after the last *, it will turn into babytalk again.
I was not born yet. One pregger, and I'm third in line. The queue system in this game blows.
Quote from: Indirik on August 28, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
I was not born yet. One pregger, and I'm third in line. The queue system in this game blows.
Why do you want to be born, this thread will become boring after that.
Quote from: Foundation on August 27, 2012, 12:00:14 AM
... this thread makes me question humanity. Is this what actual babies are thinking before they are born? (at which time they are slowly brainwashed for 1-3 years)
Yess!
We are Human's consciences before being born. All we see is darkness and we forget everything when we are born.
the game lags like mad btw... or at least posting messages lags like mad.
fodder: "the game lags like mad"
game: "u mad bro?"
fodder: "... I only waited a decade to play it"
game: "cool story bro"
Quote from: fodder on August 28, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
the game lags like mad btw... or at least posting messages lags like mad.
From what I heard, the game is really laggy during your first year. Afterwards it's a lot better.
Wait... how... what... that doesn't even...
what... so not only does the baby talk nonsense, he's !@#$ting on the net connection too?
Aww crap...
Just FYI, the first place slot in the queue is not #1. It's #0. So if you're #1 in the queue, you're actually in SECOND PLACE!
Just another friendly kick in the nads from the peeps over at FTO....
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 2
So close yet so far!
Why do inactives wake up from slumber,
Everytime a preggo goes on line?
Or just like me, they long to be-
GET BORN!!!
i'm wondering if i should try walking around... no map though... not even sure it's possible to walk around..
some kid around here starved to death.... eeeeh
I was born, on the taiga. I'm one of at least two kids.
Are you crying? I have Indirik as my baby brother :P You hear me, I'm the oldest around here so you better do whatever I say (Let's ignore my older sister since we're still kids and girls thus don't count)
He he he. There were two of us born? I don't know which I was, first or second. Or were there more?
Yes, I sent a "cries" emote.
So, umm... what are we?
Two kids born from what I saw. We're Talians, or 'Snow Elves'. We're very purply and blue and longlived :P Also, get used to the cold :(
I wondered if the race was some kind of elf. The description kind of seemed like it. Do you know if I was first or second born? Cren was literally right behind me in the queue. It would be funny if he got born as a mermaid.
you mean a fishfolk?
That's what I am.
I just sent my best RP ever: *poop*
I am the second born. Anyway who are you Telrunya, the girl who "points at us with index finger" and says "Ewww!"?
"This racial species can range in height between six and eight feet tall, has a very muscular body that is completely covered in fur. This species can withstand very cold temperatures, and can endure many strenuous activities. They have pointy, animal-like ears, large round eyes and a fairly standard-shaped mouth and nose. Their communication generally sounds very coarse and rough."
dog or something? XD
Yeti!
Great, Elves with rounded ears!
So it's not quite the unoriginal, stereotypical crap most fantasy elves are described as being. That's a plus, for me.
What happened with all those who were on Queue, are you born already?
I knew this thread would lose interest once everyone have become a creep!
peace!
Well, I got born as an ice elf. I pooped. My dad named me. And since then I have successfully assigned a name to all 5 or 6 active people in our settlement.
Oh, and I wiggled and cried, too.
Quote from: Indirik on September 04, 2012, 07:53:03 PM
I pooped. Oh, and I wiggled and cried, too.
So, pretty much a normal day for you, eh.
Pretty close. Sometimes I poop a couple times, too. Those are the exceptionally good days.
Got born, named by the mother, have been eating fish and oysters, crying a lot. Now able to walk and speak (incoherently).
Next thing you notice is that you see good lookin little worm which you think you will have as a snack, then something hurts on yer cheek and you see some round faced fisherman smiling while he drags you on his boat.
But I'm not one of those fish folk, really!
I lost interest in waiting. :-/
My newborn (1 yr old) character almost starved to death. Apparently I was daddy's responsibility, and daddy wasn't paying attention. Would that suck? Waiting 7 weeks to get started, and then dying after ~10 days due to neglect. At 1 yr old you can't even feed yourself.
What is there even to do in this game?
There is only so much fun one can get out of RP'ing life in a random village somewhere.
I'm not THAT bored yet...
That's umm... pretty much it, so far. You can wander the world and beat up random wild life. I will probably go exploring when old enough. My village has <20 people in it.
Quote from: Indirik on September 12, 2012, 04:42:07 AM
That's umm... pretty much it, so far. You can wander the world and beat up random wild life. I will probably go exploring when old enough. My village has <20 people in it.
Ya, this seems just pretty boring.
I guess it wouldn't be such a disappointment if we didn't already have Battlemaster. But, wandering around in a village world doesn't really compare to plotting the demise of my enemies in BM or rising to control all of SA.
Battlemaster is a completely different scale of game. FTO is more of a primitive, barbarian world. Not sure if it will be all that interesting yet.
Its too bad, mommy isn't feeding me at times, and I have to shout to get food. It $%¥§&#sucks!
Quote from: Indirik on September 12, 2012, 05:13:20 AM
Battlemaster is a completely different scale of game. FTO is more of a primitive, barbarian world. Not sure if it will be all that interesting yet.
Unless you could create Siege Engines on FTO and siege your neighbors house, and just at 8 years old, would be wonderful!
Quote from: Cren on September 12, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
Its too bad, mommy isn't feeding me at times, and I have to shout to get food. It $%¥§&#sucks!
look for amphora's, crates, and things of that sort in the objects list. hover over the magnifying glass, and you'll see what's inside them. Pick them up, and click on the shopping cart by them when they're in the inventory, and select what things you want to be in your inventory. Then drop the crate/amphora/etc.
Lol, Indirik is eating spoons instead of meat!
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on September 12, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
look for amphora's, crates, and things of that sort in the objects list. hover over the magnifying glass, and you'll see what's inside them. Pick them up, and click on the shopping cart by them when they're in the inventory, and select what things you want to be in your inventory. Then drop the crate/amphora/etc.
That's a shortcut to getting slain. ;)
Not really... it's the only way to really get food by yourself. I was told so by the people I was rp'ing with. So long as you drop the container and use some common sense, like not taking EVERYTHING, then you'll be fine.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on September 15, 2012, 11:27:32 PM
Not really... it's the only way to really get food by yourself. I was told so by the people I was rp'ing with. So long as you drop the container and use some common sense, like not taking EVERYTHING, then you'll be fine.
Oh, I assumed you were talking about arming yourself. :p
In the third week you can not only feed yourself, though, but also others. Just forage until then, and cook lots of food after.
Hmm...seems like i was born into...SOMETHING!
The first thing i noticed...besides being hungry is that i am Inept in all skills, where do i get family gold to train?
You will be inept at all skills other than foraging at the beginning.
Well....
there is a nude Man walking in and out.... should i get scared as hell now?
Quote from: Sonya on September 16, 2012, 11:16:10 PM
Well....
there is a nude Man walking in and out.... should i get scared as hell now?
Nudity seems to be a lot more acceptable. At least my characters parents haven't really tried to cloth all of us naked kids running around.
I guess my character is human? or at least mostly human, the description says there is something else mixed in and a mermaid has been swimming around in the river nearby our little jungle village on the coast.
Our kitty village apparently has a mudkip.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on September 26, 2012, 04:50:48 AM
Our kitty village apparently has a mudkip.
It does! And it scares the heck out of my kitten ;D
Look my mommy!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3085175/Kyara.jpg
No way! She's mine too!
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 34
Almost!
Quote from: D'Espana on September 26, 2012, 05:00:53 PM
No way! She's mine too!
Who are you? My name is Avily, err...Big Brother?
Ohhw ait... ;D i clicked the bad link, that one in the picture is Lidias right?
I'm Muata in the kitty village.
Quote from: Sonya on September 26, 2012, 05:04:13 PM
Who are you? My name is Avily, err...Big Brother?
Ohhw ait... ;D i clicked the bad link, that one in the picture is Lidias right?
I'm Tel´C, and she's Kyara, my mommy. But yeah, I think you're not my little sis, I would be very surprised if Kyara had had more kittens without me noticing :P.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on September 26, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
I'm Muata in the kitty village.
Hahahahahaha, the one seemingly lost and abandoned? I laughed when they entered the mine and you tried to hug them ;D
I am most totally lost,since i don't know the names. as a baby i tagged the names about what they talked.
My mother have been good, although a evil lizard tried to eat me..SCARY!
Yeah, now I'm sure you aren't my sis. The one you picked the picture from is Kyara, just in case you want to tag her. And don't worry, because once you are five YOU will be the one hunting lizards in revenge ;)
Quote from: D'Espana on September 26, 2012, 05:32:03 PM
Yeah, now I'm sure you aren't my sis. The one you picked the picture from is Kyara, just in case you want to tag her. And don't worry, because once you are five YOU will be the one hunting lizards in revenge ;)
Yea i change name, and also i found you..Tel!
At least on Today's role-play i found many names, and also...an difficult vocabulary to learn....
Quote from: D'Espana on September 26, 2012, 05:25:30 PM
I'm Tel´C, and she's Kyara, my mommy. But yeah, I think you're not my little sis, I would be very surprised if Kyara had had more kittens without me noticing :P.
Hahahahahaha, the one seemingly lost and abandoned? I laughed when they entered the mine and you tried to hug them ;D
It's so cruel!!!
I just couldn't avoid it! You were so excited about finding your parents, made the reencounter RP, and when you try to hug them someone points out - Hey, they're not here, they went into the mine before addressing a word to you. THAT was funny ;D
And Sonya, have you been given the link to the Mauri guide? There you'll find many of that words.
HAHAHAHAHAHA NOW I CANT HOLD IT!
Quote from: D'Espana on September 26, 2012, 05:43:48 PM
I just couldn't avoid it! You were so excited about finding your parents, made the reencounter RP, and when you try to hug them someone points out - Hey, they're not here, they went into the mine before addressing a word to you. THAT was funny ;D
After that, i named him Forever Alone and now look what i found:
QuoteRingwe, 204 - Evening, hr 11: Forever Alone
Feeling more alone than ever, he decides to build himself a tent in which to live, gathering the needed supplies before getting to work.
Hahahahahahahaha that's too much!
Quote from: D'Espana on September 26, 2012, 05:43:48 PM
And Sonya, have you been given the link to the Mauri guide? There you'll find many of that words.
Yes i got it, is kind of complicated...but o well...i s just a kitty.
So true... Gustav, make Muata come and play with the other kittens, it'll sure give you something else to do than wandering alone in the streets ;D
My kitty's a loner
I think they increased multiple births, I've seen about 10 baby fish things be born in the last 2 days. (oh ya, I'm a baby fish, kitty stay away)
I think I'm a dog thing. Their are dog things right? I was born in the lovely cold village of Ice-caps.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on September 27, 2012, 07:35:25 AM
My kitty's a loner
Don't worry i will play with you, as soon my dirty diaper get change.
But i wonder how is everyone else, it seems that the tree of us (you ,me and D'espana) are together, but and the others who were waiting to be born?
I wonder how my fish parents are able to cook oysters when we live under water.
...oh and, is everyone else naked? fish people all seem to be naked, from baby to adult.. one big fishy nudist colony.
Mmmmmmmh, I wonder how you fish people taste *slurp* Also, dog thing, stay away ;D
And I'm not naked. Have you ever seen a giant cat naked? You fishes might be well showing everything, but we the cats know better education. I even made myself a pretty costume with leaves. Yay!
Quote from: Lanyon on September 28, 2012, 01:30:52 AM
I think I'm a dog thing. Their are dog things right? I was born in the lovely cold village of Ice-caps.
You mean the Anubis species? Lucky. v-v
Me, Indirik and Telrunya are Talians (Ice Elves with rounded ears). Indirik is my twin brother there.
I'm quarter Talian :P
-jaune
Talians= a lot of incest. But they are a really good OOC community, and IC they have a strong culture.
Well, at least I hope they participate. I think I can count with a hand the regular posters on the kitty's village...
I just made an account:
Pregnant Mothers: 2
Your position in the birth queue is: 158
=(
Oh you'll only be waiting for 2 months or so, but once you get in it's a blast
The Talian village is very small. Only about 8 or 9 active posters.
Armassi is the name of my people. Does this game have an IRC?
irc.newnet.net
#fto
Ok, so I got myself born and my character is already a year old. What now?
I was born to Caus and Callie and we are 6 babies in total. Is any of you my sibling?
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on September 12, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
look for amphora's, crates, and things of that sort in the objects list. hover over the magnifying glass, and you'll see what's inside them. Pick them up, and click on the shopping cart by them when they're in the inventory, and select what things you want to be in your inventory. Then drop the crate/amphora/etc.
This is actually the best tip for neglected babies. I just roleplayed my character feeling resentful over her sibling being fed thrice a day while she was starving. And now she has found her own way to food and is trying to get the other babies fed. They'll probably hate my bad RP and kill my character, but !@#$ it!
The game design sucks: You have to wait 6 months to get born and then you die because other players don't feed your character? How is this game fun?
I've actually stopped playing. I just couldn't get into it.
I've found that having someone you can rely on for RPing together adds much to the game. Even if it's for something as simple as (in my case) RP the games of two kittens. Were it not for it, I think I'd be greeeeeeeeatly bored with this game.
Oh, and I agree with the game design sucking. I've seen a lot of starving kittens in the little time I've been IG. But nevertheless, my second character is just twenty positions from being born!
The Talians (purple ice elf peeps) don't leave food laying around. Something about it all getting stolen once by some random griefer. You either have to bug someone for food, or make it yourself. My character almost died once when he was 1 year old because no one fed him.
Yep, this game has its faults, but i have had awesome time at Kindred(humans) place. So, if you have patience, give your another character a shot, you might end up on a better place :)
When you get to 3 years old you are fully independent, and can make your own food.
If you tried the game and didn't like it please give the account for someone else, so they don't have to wait months to join the game.
Anyone who wants the account, please send me a pm. I'll keep Muata alive meanwhile.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on October 06, 2012, 12:04:51 PM
Anyone who wants the account, please send me a pm. I'll keep Muata alive meanwhile.
Nooooo don't leave us Forever Alone Kitty!
Sorry, I just don't find the game very rewarding for myself.
I guess we'll have to see our loner friend departing... A pity indeed!
Oh, and please tell them that the food wasn't stolen. I forgot to put it down and I'm now on the road, leaving me unable to do anything about it from my phone.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on October 06, 2012, 06:28:18 PM
Oh, and please tell them that the food wasn't stolen. I forgot to put it down and I'm now on the road, leaving me unable to do anything about it from my phone.
Already warned them, thanks for notifying!
Second character born as one of the fish people. I think they're similar to mermaids, for what I've read. RP seems harsh, don't know what to do besides move the tail ;D
Well, I'm a Newt. I know what you mean...
Slap everybody with large fish tail!
My second char is cat. Intresting...
Glad you joined us!
Quote from: D'Espana on October 07, 2012, 05:25:07 PM
Second character born as one of the fish people. I think they're similar to mermaids, for what I've read. RP seems harsh, don't know what to do besides move the tail ;D
I'm a fish thing called Hersi (someone named me) and they don't seem to like feeding people recently. I can make food so if you get hungry let me know. I've been making food and giving it to babies and dropping it on the ground. They seemed to be obsessed with 1 character (I forget his name, Nemo maybe) I'm 3 now and so far have gotten by having fun spinning in circles, eating sand, and biting others.
ok, now they're RPing eating the corpse of a fish man who died to a tiger shark....
Soooo in the end Muata left the village taking a girl with him!
Such a cute Elope relationship!
So you're Hersi, Azerax... quite good to know, I think you saved me with your dropping of food. I'm Damasko, the baby boy who goes around eating dead corpses (yay, canibalism!) because nobody feeds him even a damn sardine. I would have thought that the dead bodies satiate a lot of hunger, as I ate both a baby boy and a little boy (bigger than me) but the hunger status was "Very Hungry" until I stole some oysters and the fish you dropped. Curious... And yeah, everybody is obsessed with Neemo, whom happens to be my (irresponsible) daddy.
Quote from: Sonya on October 15, 2012, 07:24:15 PM
Soooo in the end Muata left the village taking a girl with him!
Such a cute Elope relationship!
Poor Volshky, following an antisocial loner. I hope Kyara catches them both, but we'll see...
Click on your nickname and give yourself one, it will make it easier for me to load you up with food. Until then I'll keep dropping some.
Age the age of 3 you can start cooking on your own without tools which is what saved me. My mother was doing a good job and keeping me fed until several more babies were born and then she had no way to feeding everyone, and no one else seemed to help.
Quote from: Azerax on October 15, 2012, 09:57:25 PM
Click on your nickname and give yourself one, it will make it easier for me to load you up with food. Until then I'll keep dropping some.
Age the age of 3 you can start cooking on your own without tools which is what saved me. My mother was doing a good job and keeping me fed until several more babies were born and then she had no way to feeding everyone, and no one else seemed to help.
All players need to name everyone else. Just click on their names (Naked baby or whatever) and type the new one.
At 1 years old you can join other's projects so a good idea would be to start and stop many food projects. Then let them complete them. The food will be dropped to the ground and they can then take it.
Another recommendation is to leave a container in the ground in where to stock all the food you make for others, so that it doesn't rot.
Quote from: JPierreD on October 15, 2012, 10:19:55 PM
All players need to name everyone else. Just click on their names (Naked baby or whatever) and type the new one.
At 1 years old you can join other's projects so a good idea would be to start and stop many food projects. Then let them complete them. The food will be dropped to the ground and they can then take it.
Another recommendation is to leave a container in the ground in where to stock all the food you make for others, so that it doesn't rot.
I bow my head to you, wise master of FTO. Indeed, Azerax, everything JPierreD has posted is right, so you may follow his advice! I have already RP again putting my name in the RP, so you can be able to name myself properly.
Quote from: D'Espana on October 16, 2012, 01:28:01 AM
I bow my head to you, wise master of FTO. Indeed, Azerax, everything JPierreD has posted is right, so you may follow his advice! I have already RP again putting my name in the RP, so you can be able to name myself properly.
I saw that, and saw you getting scolded for canibalism hahah made my day. The issue is that there is 6 baby boys and 4 baby girls, I'm not sure how I can pick the correct baby boy to name you.
Quote from: Azerax on October 16, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
The issue is that there is 6 baby boys and 4 baby girls, I'm not sure how I can pick the correct baby boy to name you.
I think you have already done it :)
I was just typing your name, your name doesn't appear in the inhabitants (or whatever it is) list.
You can rename them by clicking their name/description next to the roleplay where he identifies himself.
For example:
Vasa, 207 - Afternoon, hr 8
Half-naked man in early-adulthood walks out of the City Entrance
^ click that part and type in the name.
That only works on a message that the person actually sends. The arrival/departure messages don't let you rename.
Who is playing Muata now?
Yep, clicking on the "Nude baby boy" thing allows you to erase it and write down whatever you want (from Damasko to Annoying Forum Fellow, you'll be the only one reading it, so it's OK ;))
And I thought Muata was still played by Gustav? He has kept the loner feeling, so I didn't think that anything had changed.
I'm not currently playing him. Gave him to.... someone. Can't remember who, I think it was egamma.
10 - births - away! Soo - close... must hang on!
Seriously people, start plopping out kids.
It seems I'm playing this game all wrong. I'm playing Daffodil. Is anyone on my colony?
What race are you, Gloria?
boring human, I guess. We have a couple of Sets and their baby girl living with us too.
So... this game is really weird. Or, actually, I guess it's the community that's weird. They say that you can't do something unless you are first shown how to do it. If you try to, say, bake a fish before someone shows you how, you'll get a polite little OOC about it. "You really shouldn't be using the oven until someone shows you how." But they have no problems showing an 18 month old baby how to bake fish. ??? Or handing a 6 year old a longbow to go squirrel hunting, and giving her a hunting knife butcher the damn thing.
Anyway, they took my twin sister off traveling on a hunting trip. They wouldn't let my character go because he "wasn't trained enough". So I stuffed my bag with all the food I could find, grabbed an old stone knife out of a box, and headed off on an adventure all by myself. I wonder how long it will take for them to find me.
Indirik, are you talking about a character named Feldspar with the baked fish thing? Is it your char?
My character is a Talian named Vortah.
Ah, so the baked fish thing was when your Talian was younger? Okay, then it's just a coincidence that something similar happened with someone named Feldspar.
Yes, quite a while ago. He's 9 now.
I haven't decided whether I will let him get hopelessly lost and make his parents come find him, or if I will let him find his way home.
I was told that travelling was not the point of the game. That travelling is even more boring than staying to play house with your "family".
Given that the game is completely freeform, I would claim that the point of the game is whatever you want it to be. Playing house with the same 6 or 8 people all the time would be the apex of boredom for me.
Now I'm starting to have fun here. The fish people always seem to me as retarded for how they talk and carry on their lives, but I'm enjoying playing the cat. Already had a kid (inactive :'() and I've written more embarrassing and puke-rainbowish stuff than I ever thought I'd write. It's what you get when you go playing romeo ;D
Quote from: D'Espana on October 24, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
Now I'm starting to have fun here. The fish people always seem to me as retarded for how they talk and carry on their lives, but I'm enjoying playing the cat. Already had a kid (inactive :'() and I've written more embarrassing and puke-rainbowish stuff than I ever thought I'd write. It's what you get when you go playing romeo ;D
I agree about their language skills. The adult conversation remind me of my 2 year old's, it's a bit creepy. I'm going to start making some weapons and leave them around for the little ones.
Quote from: D'Espana on October 24, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
Already had a kid (inactive :'()
Heyyy..Who? O_O aren't you going too fast?
Quote from: Azerax on October 24, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
I agree about their language skills. The adult conversation remind me of my 2 year old's, it's a bit creepy. I'm going to start making some weapons and leave them around for the little ones.
Yay! 8)
Quote from: Sonya on October 24, 2012, 09:15:56 PM
Heyyy..Who? O_O aren't you going too fast?
I got one with Zilky. She's called Gail (one of the new newborn girls) but hasn't waked up yet... and hey, it was my mummy who urged me to... errrrr... play doctor's game with my sister ;D
Quote from: Indirik on October 21, 2012, 03:52:49 AM
So... this game is really weird. Or, actually, I guess it's the community that's weird. They say that you can't do something unless you are first shown how to do it. If you try to, say, bake a fish before someone shows you how, you'll get a polite little OOC about it. "You really shouldn't be using the oven until someone shows you how." But they have no problems showing an 18 month old baby how to bake fish. ??? Or handing a 6 year old a longbow to go squirrel hunting, and giving her a hunting knife butcher the damn thing.
Anyway, they took my twin sister off traveling on a hunting trip. They wouldn't let my character go because he "wasn't trained enough". So I stuffed my bag with all the food I could find, grabbed an old stone knife out of a box, and headed off on an adventure all by myself. I wonder how long it will take for them to find me.
Different colonies have different ways of playing. In one of my colonies you'd be killed for baking a fish at young age, while in another you'd be repeatedly asked to do that and other stuff for the community.
Just like in BM different realms have different cultures. Maybe even more.
Quote from: JPierreD on October 25, 2012, 06:06:02 AM
Different colonies have different ways of playing. In one of my colonies you'd be killed for baking a fish at young age, while in another you'd be repeatedly asked to do that and other stuff for the community.
Just like in BM different realms have different cultures. Maybe even more.
Except in this one they really have no problem murdering your character if they decide you don't fit in.
Hmm, I like that.
Quote from: Azerax on October 25, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
Except in this one they really have no problem murdering your character if they decide you don't fit in.
Hmm, I like that.
The fishes? That sucks... Good thing I'm not in there.
My kitten died last night. Frozed to death... pretty harsh, luckily i have that Kindred char still alive and kicking.
My character got killed by its own mother. No reason. Word, that community is really weird.
Did you pick up a knife, or anything that could be used as a weapon? Or any piece of armor? Or perhaps a bag with a lot of food in it? Some of the groups are fanatical about that kind of thing. I've heard several anecdotal stories of griefers and trolls. Add that to permadeath for characters, and you have a very touchy community, with little tolerance for anything that even resembles something that they imagine that a possible troll may think about doing.
(Like, say, you go on IRC and complain about how even though you're 1-yr old character is active, he's being ignored and is about to die of starvation (<24 hours til he's dead, no one feeding him, the community doesn't believe in leaving food laying around because of some troll a million years ago who stole it all), and make some joke about your character is going to end up becoming an anti-social axe murderer due to parental neglect. Then the next day you find out someone has gone on Facebook and slagged you, and then tells you that you're a jerk for for being rude to your character's parents, that your character was never that close to starving (because it didn't happen while his character was there, so you must be lying), and that you're lucky someone didn't see that axe murderer joke and go IG and kill your character because of some OOC joke you told in an IRC channel. :o )
It happened just exactly like you mentioned it. Wow.
Indirik, are you the reason why they told me "oh, you're one of those BM people" and banned me from their IRC channel?
I haven't been back on their IRC channel since the axe-murderer joke.
This from the facebook thread where I complain about my character being killed:
QuoteYou BattleMaster people sure have weird ideas about what roleplaying games should be like. No, not weird. What's the word I'm looking for? Stupid. That's it.
What did the rest of you do, people?
Quote from: Gloria on October 26, 2012, 09:12:04 PM
Indirik, are you the reason why they told me "oh, you're one of those BM people" and banned me from their IRC channel?
Yes they do have disdain for BM players there.
Quote from: Gloria on October 26, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
This from the facebook thread where I complain about my character being killed: What did the rest of you do, people?
Not sure but it seems that couple of us took things and left. Muata even took a girl with him.
Wait, what? Muata took a girl?
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on October 26, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Wait, what? Muata took a girl?
Yes!
He eloped with another kitty ;D
That's the kind of intrigue the game needs.
You should breed and hopefully I will get born to you. I'd really like to get born somewhere where there is already a BM player or at least somewhere without people who can't tell BM players and trolls apart
They despise people that don't follow their narrow definition of how you should act. Someone was complaining on their facebook page once about how someone was trying to challenge the leader of the colony. "You don't *ever* challenge the leader! Never!"
Quote from: Sonya on October 26, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Yes!
He eloped with another kitty ;D
My loner kitty has grown up into a kidnapper... ^_^
Quote from: Indirik on October 26, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
They despise people that don't follow their narrow definition of how you should act. Someone was complaining on their facebook page once about how someone was trying to challenge the leader of the colony. "You don't *ever* challenge the leader! Never!"
So basically, if you try to play your own character instead of doing what the other players want your character to do, you're wrong and they may kill your character.
I never felt it was that strict. At least not in the kitty village. But then again, I was on IRC constantly so they knew who I was, and why I was doing what.
I was on IRC, maybe not constantly but often enough... I was on FB too, and I took care of feeding characters whose players were away. I am not going to say I was best friends with the players in my colony but I thought I had somewhat earned their trust. I also trusted them not to kill my character.
I'm sorry for how this turned out. I'm not in the colony where you lost your character, so I didn't see what exactly happened, but I really have to say that facebook discussion was rather rude of most of the people who participated in it. Players should be friendlier to each other. Also, I personally see no reason to kill an actively RPing child just for building a "lame" weapon. Okay, it might be something like bad form to go hunting without having been taught to, but I wouldn't kill a child for it. With the guarding system in place, I also disagree that a young child with any kind of bad weapon is actually a threat. Each colony -should- have at least one decently equipped fighter around who guards all the others, so that trolls can't hit that badly. Again, I don't know the details and maybe I'm missing something, but from what I learned from the facebook group and here, it sounds pretty much like an overreaction to me. They even said your RP was good, so... I don't quite get it. Some people are more "sensitive" than others, I guess.
Edit: But I can only repeat what I have already posted in my FAQ and other posts on the first 3 pages of this topic, so that such cases can hopefully be avoided in the future: If you want your character survive, do not, ever, start to construct any kind of weapon as a child without the official permission from the character's parents because a lot of people would kill your char for doing so. I wouldn't if it's an otherwise active and productive RPer, but that's just me. In most colonies, that's just a pretty fast way to get killed.
Oh, and for some cultures, the first weapon and the first hunt might also be very meaningful, so it's best to avoid it completely until your char is several years older than just 5 and gets an adult to agree that it's time for them to hunt.
Ya, this is not a game, it's a cult.
I have 3 kids and from the day their hands could move they pick up anything they could, no matter what it is.
The Sets were teaching their newborns how to hunt for prey. Granted, they were not my character's parents, but my character did see them hunt for prey. I gave enough RP clues that my character was interested in hunting for food and worried about there being too many babies and having to feed them all... But the players of my parents decided to pretend I did not exist and kill me instead because I was a troll.
I don't really understand their definition of "troll" then. Though lately it seems to me anyway some people just love throwing that word around whenever they see fit, no matter if it's appropriate or not.
Quote from: jaune on October 26, 2012, 11:55:25 AM
My kitten died last night. Frozed to death... pretty harsh, luckily i have that Kindred char still alive and kicking.
You might like to know that you have been mourned. Little consolation in there, but hey, it's something.
About all the rest I've read, I must say that I was quite a bit upset, especially at the statement that we do stupid RP. Stupid RP? So, are you going to tell us, damned tribal bitch who only cares for hunting, eating and NOT feeding the little ones, that we don't know to RP? We, that are used to RP much bigger things, including politics, treason and ACTUAL dinamism in the world? Are you sure that is not YOUR RP the stupid one?
I almost went to IRC immediately, but then I thought about it twice, said "meh" and went out with my friends for some beers and pizza. The best way to forget about silly accusations from silly people.
Though seriously now, I do think that there is one very, very important difference between FTO and BM, and I'll pick only one from the many that one can come to realise: the community. Tom is active whereas the other guy not, people here try to (surprise!) teach you how things are done instead of just blasting your head off... I certainly think BM has a much more friendly community (in general lines, and specially if you are a newbie)
I've enjoyed my game so far, but if I had been born in places like that, I'm pretty sure I'd have considered seriously just rage-quitting or becoming a real troll, out of pure revenge. Man, there sure are a lot of jerks in this world...
And yes, I've slept very little for the latter days and am somehow irritable. Specially for these kind of stupid things about something so dumb as believing you know how to play better than the rest and killing characters who have taken months to be born just out of your blind pride. To hell with them.
I agree, kind of.... but then again, i love the kindred place where i am. But for what i have from other people... there seem to be a lot troubleous people.
And yeap, i understand more and more the "playing with your friends" thing which keep popping up on time to time at BM. BM is really friendly place :)
-Jaune
Quote from: jaune on October 26, 2012, 11:55:25 AM
My kitten died last night. Frozed to death... pretty harsh
My Talian is currently walking around on the polar ice caps wearing only a shirt and pants he made out of seaweed. I have often wondered, if I go too far south, will I get heat stroke?
Quote from: D'Espana on October 27, 2012, 05:48:00 PMpeople here try to (surprise!) teach you how things are done instead of just blasting your head off... I certainly think BM has a much more friendly community (in general lines, and specially if you are a newbie)
Hey, I try to teach people in both games. ;) I have even written a "How to play" guide that I link to every baby born to me and I'm always open for OOC question in the game as well, so that nobody is forced to use IRC. None of my FTO characters has actually ever killed anyone. I'm also very hesitant with calling someone a troll. Usually I just believe it's a clueless new player, unless they show -really- obvious signs of trolling, like emoting "Hahaha, this game sucks I. f*ed your Mom".
I just really wish that some of the "loudest" other players were still able to see the game with the eyes of a new player, like "Oh, a new button, I'll click on it". Then they'd show more patience... though some of the older players, and I won't say any names, simply seem to be very angry and irritable persons in general, from what I've seen of them.
Quote from: Andira on October 28, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
I just really wish that some of the "loudest" other players were still able to see the game with the eyes of a new player, like "Oh, a new button, I'll click on it".
I always try this as well, and think that it is the best way to make a game to work and to have nice people around. I was obviously generalising, I don't believe all the folks in FTO to be like that, but I do think that they exist in a bigger proportion than in BM.
Quote from: jaune on October 27, 2012, 06:49:41 PM
And yeap, i understand more and more the "playing with your friends" thing which keep popping up on time to time at BM. BM is really friendly place :)
-Jaune
You don't know how much I agree with you here...
Quote from: Andira on October 28, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
I just really wish that some of the "loudest" other players were still able to see the game with the eyes of a new player, like "Oh, a new button, I'll click on it". Then they'd show more patience... though some of the older players, and I won't say any names, simply seem to be very angry and irritable persons in general, from what I've seen of them.
This.
People asked me what I gained by killing things I had no business killing.
Well, I got to see the combat interface. Regardless of what my character is supposed to know, I as a player would have not known there was a combat interface or how combat took place had I not taken that risk. And of course I was thinking "ooh, shiny new button" and not "muahahaha, let's troll and hurt this colony and grieve the players because I'm a troll".
Like you said, it was a lame weapon! And they were bats! It's not like I attacked a PC. Unless bats were sacred in this colony or some weird !@#$, I saw no problem with that.
I really don't know the colony, so no clue if bats are somehow important to them or if the ones you attacked were the last few of the species so that they can't reproduce any longer or... something. Maybe they were important, maybe not. *shrugs* But I wouldn't think they're worth killing an actively RPing character of a new player over it. People said they warned you OOC before your char got killed... was that during a time when you had not logged into the game after hunting? Or was the log so full that you missed those messages? (Just wondering, since I still don't understand all of this mess, but not trying to accuse you).
Well, there are many colonies, most do not even know of the existence of each other, so don't think it's everywhere like that. I have even started a Dwarven colony myself and been having children (will keep having them, so hopefully I'll get a BMer or two), but so far almost all of them have been inactive ones.
The most vocal FTO community has deep and serious welcoming problems. They were for too long a static and unchanging group, and they don't have a Tom to keep jerks at bay.
The solution? Just mingle with those you like, and ignore the others. No use in fighting.
Quote from: Andira on October 29, 2012, 06:09:10 AM
I really don't know the colony, so no clue if bats are somehow important to them or if the ones you attacked were the last few of the species so that they can't reproduce any longer or... something. Maybe they were important, maybe not. *shrugs* But I wouldn't think they're worth killing an actively RPing character of a new player over it. People said they warned you OOC before your char got killed... was that during a time when you had not logged into the game after hunting? Or was the log so full that you missed those messages? (Just wondering, since I still don't understand all of this mess, but not trying to accuse you).
I missed the warning. People were roleplaying about a lost baby who had wandered in or out of some building and I noticed those messages but not the warning. I don't remember seeing it but I probably skipped it because it said OOC and I'm used to ignoring OOC messages. (Not that I don't care, but in BM you can skip ooc messages and it doesn't matter.) It is on the log, though. And yeah, I feel stupid for not noticing.
I guess someone with a more BM-style would have reacted IC with a "Leave that alone. Stop that." instead of an OOC message.
But well, I guess I just have to wait for my next character to be born. Hopefully I'll have better luck next time.
I wish you luck with your next family and hope you'll have a better experience with your next character. :) It's great that you haven't given up. And I hope your wait won't be too long.
And heh, yes, OOC messages in FTO usually are important and have something to do with what is going on, not like in BattleMaster where people sometimes just chat about random stuff in OOC messages. It's understandable with your BM background, though, that you wouldn't have paid a lot of attention to it.
And I would have preferred an IC reaction from your family as well instead of suddenly playing it as if your character had never existed. That might work with a baby no more than a couple of days old who suddenly started emoting OOC insults at other players instead of actually RPing, but it's not at all a good solution for a character that has been an actively RPing member of the colony for several ingame years and who has interacted with people there. That makes things very much awkward for every character there who has ever interacted with yours and who has maybe made an important experience in doing so. And this comes from someone who has played FTO long before playing BattleMaster. ;)
JPierreD, any idea how I can find your colony? I don't know of any world maps of this game. I'm way far north, near the polar caps. Not sure if my character could live in the south. I skipped out on my colony, not sure if I will go back.
What is the name of your parent colony?
Quote from: Indirik on November 08, 2012, 12:42:09 AM
JPierreD, any idea how I can find your colony? I don't know of any world maps of this game. I'm way far north, near the polar caps. Not sure if my character could live in the south. I skipped out on my colony, not sure if I will go back.
What is the name of your parent colony?
Travelling is tough in the game. You'd need to make a canoe out of reed (there are probably other materials you can make it from) and sail through the seven seas. :p
I am currently working on mapping out the continent I am on.
Quote from: JPierreD on November 09, 2012, 04:54:16 PM
Travelling is tough in the game. You'd need to make a canoe out of reed (there are probably other materials you can make it from) and sail through the seven seas. :p
OR you can be a professional swimmer and become FTO's Michael Phelps. Or you can also be a fish thing. There are many possibilities! 8)
Quote from: Indirik on November 09, 2012, 07:20:51 PM
I am currently working on mapping out the continent I am on.
Have you encountered other people yet?
I haven't been that far yet. But I have found signs of habitation. An abandoned mine, and a seemingly occasionally inhabited pair of huts. I did not poke around in them, though. Just borrowed the oven and moved on.
Quote from: Indirik on November 10, 2012, 12:44:35 AM
I haven't been that far yet. But I have found signs of habitation. An abandoned mine, and a seemingly occasionally inhabited pair of huts. I did not poke around in them, though. Just borrowed the oven and moved on.
Now that should be an interesting adventure. Don't enter abandoned mines, nasty things lurk there. And move south, looks for warmer climates. You'll might find other peoples. ;)
http://home.comcast.net/~vaylon/fto.html
Interesting web site. Has some information on skill levels, time scales, hunger levels, etc.
Oh, and I found a "Temple of the Beasts" someone built. A shoddy underground dirt home. I didn't stick around.
Quote from: Indirik on November 10, 2012, 05:36:31 PM
Oh, and I found a "Temple of the Beasts" someone built. A shoddy underground dirt home. I didn't stick around.
Probably the smart thing to do. No other peeps yet? What are you, an Ice Elf? Why did you ran away from home?
Yes, my character is a Talian, an ice elf. He ran away from home because mom said he couldn't go on a hunting trip with his twin sister. So he decided to go on an adventure all by himself.
But really, the Talian village is ridiculously boring. The players have this potentially amazing game system, and they just use it to play house.
There should be Folke (fairies) aplenty to the south. Also a few Delvers (dwarves) and maybe a lost Newt or two in the mainland.
Also Kindred(humans) are relatively close, i'm part Talian by my self. There was expedition from north to "our" place and some mixed relations were born. Eventually Talians left and some stayed here. I guess no pure Talians here anymore... I would cheer up greatly to meet you :)
We have some internal strifes... part of us, wish to move and abandon old city, since it is at bad shape and surrounded by graves... kind of fresh start. And some of us would rather try to fix this place... looks like we will be moving.
I have heard several of the Talians mention the Kindred.
Hmm, I've forgotten to log on few a couple weeks, probably dead now.
I do agree that it is a fantastic system and people just want to play house and baby talk to each other. Of course, my statement is ignorant as I only played for about a month, and only one character. The highlight was JPierreD (I think it was him) getting scolded for fishy cannibalism.
Quote from: Azerax on November 12, 2012, 08:12:15 PM
Hmm, I've forgotten to log on few a couple weeks, probably dead now.
I do agree that it is a fantastic system and people just want to play house and baby talk to each other. Of course, my statement is ignorant as I only played for about a month, and only one character. The highlight was JPierreD (I think it was him) getting scolded for fishy cannibalism.
No, you're not. You possibly had some food stored and the auto-eat option enabled, so you have survived to this point. Very quiet, but alive you are.
And the canibal fish was me ;D I still remember them like eeeeeeeerm, WTF you doin'? We don't eat each other, you little grasshopper! (though 20 times more retardly sounding because of the dumb speaking manners of the tritons. Sigh)
Quote from: D'Espana on November 13, 2012, 12:35:22 AM
No, you're not. You possibly had some food stored and the auto-eat option enabled, so you have survived to this point. Very quiet, but alive you are.
Sometimes people will charitably feed you too.
Quote from: JPierreD on November 13, 2012, 05:54:04 PM
Sometimes people will charitably feed you too.
Yep, that's also possible. But I was here to say that luck is funny. Second time making babies and *poof*, suddenly I've got six of them. The first time I only got one, and was an inactive, but this time there are four who have awaken so far, and one of them is quite active and posts a lot. I wonder if it's because the first time I mated with my sister (throw here the "WTF, INCEST" comments) or if it's just plain luck? Anyways, my character's genes rocks 8)
Quote from: Indirik on November 10, 2012, 05:35:42 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~vaylon/fto.html
Interesting web site. Has some information on skill levels, time scales, hunger levels, etc.
Wow. That Vaylon person really sounds awful.
Lumin's guidelines make a lot of sense to me. They're pretty similar to Tom's guidelines for BM, in that it is his game and we're just guests at his table (except Tom has been a lot more involved in the BM community).
I didn't read his story. I just found the information pagees very helpful.
As said earlier, most there just want to play house.
Roleplay that would break from this is generally frowned upon. The game has about a dozen different races, all with different characteristics that could lead to some interesting cultures and roleplay. I tried setting up one race to be a bunch of xenophobic racists through a religion I developed and taught all the children of this race as they grew up. Unfortunately, most people had OOC friends who were of other races nearby, so they decided that racism is bad and that you should go over and mate with every other race. It's been the same on any other character I've played where I tried to make things different.
In my observations over most of the period of time, with the exception of some ice elves who were brutal and uncaring and mermaids who had no familial unit, the most unique differences between cultures was what you called your 'Mother' and 'Father', Di=Father, for example.
As for the situation with Vaylon. Vaylon was extremely immature and emotional in how he handled the situation and because he was friends with most of the chat playerbase, most of them followed him. Lumin had his own problems and he handled a number of things badly, particularly with the plague that he added to kill off older characters.
Lumin wanted a dynamic game where people built towns, went on adventures, went to war, arranged marriages, etc. He wanted a game that would generated interesting and varied stories and history in a wholly player created world. You can tell that from how he describes it on the front page.
In reality it's a game that's played by a bunch of people who treat it like a forum roleplaying chatroom who all want to be perfect hippies who do not want to anything else but sit around and gossip, have babies, and feed babies.
With permadeath, being very gun-shy with your characters is inevitable. It makes the game *very* susceptible to griefers and trolls. I doubt you could truly develop a world the way Lumin was trying to get without some way to make characters very hardy and hard to kill.
True. The main issue I think is that people are born as newborns. While it would be awkward, it would have been greatly improved if people were born at age 13. They still have the ability and time to develop a character.
This would address the two main issues with the game.
1. Being a baby and a child is generally pretty boring. Especially the first 5 years which is a RL month. Most players just stop playing.
2. It requires generally 2 months for your character to be able to reproduce. This, and the many players who get bored from ages 0-5, is why the birth queue is so slow and time consuming.
If you make it so its easier to get into the game and faster to get a character who is able to be almost fully developed, I'm sure people would be much more willing to be experimental.
Another big issue is the fact that making stuff, particularly food, is extremely time consuming. You have to manually start each project each RL hour. The crafting should allow food that can be used multiple times or makes multiple items. Or have crafting queues.
I think part of the reason roleplay is centered on "playing house" is that characters hardly make it to adulthood, so there is no chance for more elaborate stories. People are not willing to experiment because they are afraid of having their characters or their colonies dying out.
What do you mean by hardly make it to adulthood? Do you mean that most of the infants born never wake up? That's because of the retarded queue system. Making people wait 3 or more months before they even get to play the first time is just stupid. "Hi, welcome to our game! We're really glad you decided to play, and we know you'll just love it. We're so glad you're here! Now, in 3 or 4 months we'll get in touch with you by e-mail so you can start playing your very first character!"
Quote from: Indirik on November 15, 2012, 02:29:46 AM
What do you mean by hardly make it to adulthood? Do you mean that most of the infants born never wake up? That's because of the retarded queue system. Making people wait 3 or more months before they even get to play the first time is just stupid. "Hi, welcome to our game! We're really glad you decided to play, and we know you'll just love it. We're so glad you're here! Now, in 3 or 4 months we'll get in touch with you by e-mail so you can start playing your very first character!"
A more agile queue would make things better, that for sure. However, you can't handle that without making multiple births the rule. That is, if you want to keep the family concept.
The easiest way, and something that could be done relatively quickly, is to give each child, in essence, several lives. If the account granted the child does not log in within three or four days, the child goes to the next person in the queue, and is recharged in health. Give each child three chances this way, and you drain the queue at least twice as fast, if not more. People get characters faster, and the effects of non-waking births are cut way down.
Also, make there some official method of giving up the character to adoption by another account. Click a link and the baby goes back into the queue. Maybe give people in the queue a check box to allow adoption of these babies up to one year old or something, so the hard-cores who want to RP getting born or some crap like that still can do it.
There's gotta be a dozen ways to speed up the queue and still give people the opportunity to RP crapping their diapers. It would do wonders for new player retention.
Of course, there's still the ass-hat community...
That's a pretty nice set of ideas. A pity we have no one to give them to...
I mentioned these on the Facebook group. The response was basically: "We've already had all these ideas, and they won't work because (insert inane reason here). And even if they would, they won't get in because the game creator has abandoned the game. So, go away."
There are quite a few people in this game who wield their insane queue wait time as a badge of honor. It's like a hazing ritual to them. They had to live through it, so you have to do it, too.
Also, I wonder how many people really play this game. I know that quite a few people in the Facebook group play multiple accounts. Let's say there are 20 colonies, each with 30 characters. That's 600 characters in the game. But with 3 characters per account, that's only 200 people. Add in people with multiple accounts each, and that really cuts down the number of players.
Mrrpp... found it. There are 449 active characters. That's not a lot of people.
Well there is a thing with the queue that kicks you out if you don't check it once a week, so that checkbox idea won't work too well. I think it's a combination of people waiting so damn long and just getting bored, or finding out that you're a worthless baby for another RL month.
Lumin can be contacted I think, but in general he has abandoned the game. He abandoned it because he was tired of the community bullying him into doing things he didn't want to do and attacking him for when the servers go down and all sorts of nasty stuff. There was a major issue with him taking a stance of not policing griefing because it was time consuming on his part(and he didn't like delegating authority after the Vaylon incident) and that caused a major !@#$storm.
FTO's core community is one of the worst I've seen. I'm not sure why he's even spending his own money on keeping up a game just for them(or so I assume as he isn't working on it anymore). But, it's a good game with a great concept and I'm glad it's up for people to try out.
That active character figure includes every character that is alive. So if you consider that 1/3-1/4 of that is inactive babies. And then divide by three and then consider people with multiple accounts. Yeah the actual active player amount is more around 100-150 max.
The queue doesn't really kick you out. You don't show as an active number, but you do still progress. People start multiple accounts and leave them idle until they want to be born. I.e. someone they know, in a colony they want to be in, gets preggers. Then they activate the account, and are at the head of the queue. That's why you can stay at position 1 or 2 and just bounce there for weeks. If they get born right, they merge the character into their main. If not, they give it away. I've seen people on Facebook bitching like you wouldn't believe because someone else got pregnant, and they ended up in the wrong colony.
Quote from: Indirik on November 15, 2012, 02:29:46 AM
What do you mean by hardly make it to adulthood? Do you mean that most of the infants born never wake up? That's because of the retarded queue system. Making people wait 3 or more months before they even get to play the first time is just stupid. "Hi, welcome to our game! We're really glad you decided to play, and we know you'll just love it. We're so glad you're here! Now, in 3 or 4 months we'll get in touch with you by e-mail so you can start playing your very first character!"
I am not sure but I believe that there are very few adults in the game. Characters are abandoned and left to die before they reach the age where they can do more interesting things.
Also, there is this community-imposed rule about not doing anything unless you are taught how to that we already mentioned and agreed it is silly. This makes gameplay very stale when no one in the colony knows how to do anything other than playing house, mating, having kids and feeding them.
I don't think you technically have to be that old before you can do most things. 6, I think.
But, yeah, the community I was born into seemed very stale. Mostly awkward social encounters. I could see why people would abandon it. That's why I invented my "map the world" project. Gives me something to do.
Quote from: Indirik on November 15, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I don't think you technically have to be that old before you can do most things. 6, I think.
But, yeah, the community I was born into seemed very stale. Mostly awkward social encounters. I could see why people would abandon it. That's why I invented my "map the world" project. Gives me something to do.
Yeah, that's what I found fun as well. Over time that's what I did on two characters near the start of the game. Here are the results.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/Vessol/FTO/TheIslands.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/Vessol/FTO/KutarimaaMap.jpg
I do think it would be fun in the future to make a character that explores and not only maps the world but also describes the towns and "cultures" found.
holy crap i'm still alive. I've aged 4 years.. I guess it paid off to fill my inventory full of food
wow, nice map. Did your one character visit all the islands? Did you build a boat to reach them?
Quote from: Indirik on November 15, 2012, 10:22:37 PM
wow, nice map. Did your one character visit all the islands? Did you build a boat to reach them?
No, boats aren't in the game as far as I know. My character was part of the frog-people race and could swim in water. I'm not sure what the numbers represent, though I do remember the far western island was inhabited and had a mine, it was called Farcliffs.
Quote from: Vessol on November 15, 2012, 10:24:24 PM
No, boats aren't in the game as far as I know. My character was part of the frog-people race and could swim in water. I'm not sure what the numbers represent, though I do remember the far western island was inhabited and had a mine, it was called Farcliffs.
I think there are. At least it seems we have some in the kitten's village, and an expedition is being prepared out of the island. Don't know if it's only RP, though.
Quote from: Indirik on November 15, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
I don't think you technically have to be that old before you can do most things. 6, I think.
The only things you cannot do at 3 is mate and attack. Besides that you are completely independent, mechanics-wise.
Quote from: D'Espana on November 16, 2012, 03:35:50 AM
I think there are. At least it seems we have some in the kitten's village, and an expedition is being prepared out of the island. Don't know if it's only RP, though.
Boats were very recently introduced into the game. It looks like Lumin is working back into the game.
i'm already positioning my character for something better than being a god damn hippie
i just need to find like minded people and we can run away and have our own colony where we fight and do cool things instead of playing house
anyone near nolja?
after looking at the fb group i've realized i'm basically in the epicentre of the core fto players... i'm scared, but i've blended in so far so hopefully i'll run away when i'm 17 or something and meet up with bm-ers
I hope to give it another try by joining a group of BM-ers instead, but I don't have the time to play for a while, so maybe later.
Queue up now. It will be "later" before you make it to the top!
(All joking aside, put yourself in the queue and let it sit. When you come back, activate and you'll be at the front of the line.)
Yup, just done that, now just not log in and I can get in whenever I want :)
Quote from: BarticaBoat on November 17, 2012, 06:04:38 AM
i'm already positioning my character for something better than being a god damn hippie
i just need to find like minded people and we can run away and have our own colony where we fight and do cool things instead of playing house
anyone near nolja?
after looking at the fb group i've realized i'm basically in the epicentre of the core fto players... i'm scared, but i've blended in so far so hopefully i'll run away when i'm 17 or something and meet up with bm-ers
What do you call "fight and do cool" things? Remember that fight in here equals permadeath, unless it's RPed-only. And how hard it is to make a character and have him grow to a decent age.
There is no need to "run away", you could RP your character as dreaming of adventures and very curious of what the horizon holds. When you turn 20 you are an adult by any race's standards, so in theory nobody would really have anything to say regarding that.
Just be a good boy, grow up and do whatever you want when you get old enough. And please, don't be an ass to other players. Just like in RL... :P
Quote from: JPierreD on November 17, 2012, 06:51:40 PM
Just be a good boy, grow up and do whatever you want when you get old enough. And please, don't be an ass to other players. Just like in RL... :P
That'd be much easier if people there didn't treat you as if you had to know everything about the past history of the colony/race since its very same origins, and act totally according to the standard. Man, look at the human race! Do you really think everyone's equal?
I personally can't complain, as in both characters I made things that were not totally OK with the customs out of IGNORANCE, because I'm just a noob there. I was scolded both times, one OOC and one IC. I'm fine with that, seriously. But to kill/marginalize someone because of that... well, that really sticks in my craw.
Quote from: D'Espana on November 18, 2012, 04:33:10 AM
That'd be much easier if people there didn't treat you as if you had to know everything about the past history of the colony/race since its very same origins, and act totally according to the standard. Man, look at the human race! Do you really think everyone's equal?
I personally can't complain, as in both characters I made things that were not totally OK with the customs out of IGNORANCE, because I'm just a noob there. I was scolded both times, one OOC and one IC. I'm fine with that, seriously. But to kill/marginalize someone because of that... well, that really sticks in my craw.
Not saying the community is acting as well as it could. But I am saying that we should try to do it, regardless.
I found the best community to be that of the kitties, they at least didn't kill you immediately, instead giving a warning and also help to those who ask.
Quote from: JPierreD on November 18, 2012, 05:45:45 AM
Not saying the community is acting as well as it could. But I am saying that we should try to do it, regardless.
Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on November 18, 2012, 02:43:07 PM
I found the best community to be that of the kitties, they at least didn't kill you immediately, instead giving a warning and also help to those who ask.
I have to agree with both statements.
The Talian community isn't bad. They are not overtly hostile. Just boring.
Remember the character that killed my first one? She just starved herself to death.
Call it Karma 8)
I have just got my 3rd character, also a fish folk. I thought it would not let you to repeat race, don't ask me why :P
My second character is still about #40 in the queue.
My second char died, and now 3rd char has been next in line 2 times and always bumbed up right before borning... now on queue: 1. :D
The world is flat, and I have discovered the edge!
/me Imagines Indirik at edge of the world like Forrest Gump came to edge of America and raised his shoulders and turned back towards other edge.
:-/ Andira has been inactive...
I'm fairly well convinced that there are probably under 100 people that play this game. It is apparently very common for people to play up to 6, or even 9, characters. Multi-accounting to get more characters is the norm. There is absolutely no way for the playerbase to tell that two characters are on the same account, so someone could be running dozens of characters and no one would know.
For a game with such potential, this thing really falls flat on its face.
Well, you already said the world was flat. That the game also falls flat should be no surprise.
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 30
Which is ridiculous, seeing as a registered sometime in November. I'm so gonna bang everyone in sight as soon as I can walk...
The queue is moving very slow. Part of the problem is all the people with idle accounts they let sit to get to the top of the queue. They don't show up in the numbers, so you have no idea how many of them could be there. I understand it is common practice for the hardcore players to have several ready for when they know that someone in a colony they want to be in gets pregnant.
Yeah, it's near impossible to tell how many people are actually in the queue. I went nuts when I first saw the game. It looked amazing, but all the waiting kinda puts off the excitement. Maybe we should suggest some computerized female characters in the game ;D Except then the dads would be alone to handle the kids... Might not be such a good idea after all :-\
Well, prepare for a serious let-down. The vast majority of the people playing this game use it as a Virtual FamilyTM, and just sit around playing homemaker, laughing at the antics of those silly kids. They are so scared that someone won't fall in line that they routinely kill children that do anything that might be considered threatening. Gloria's character was murdered by her mother when she made a vine whip. My character was almost killed when I made a joke about parental neglect in the game's IRC channel.
Also, the player of the mother who killed my first character apologized months later, saying it was uncalled for. She plays about 11 characters.
Sounds really twisted. :o
Quote from: Bael on January 08, 2013, 07:15:41 PM
Sounds really twisted. :o
Yeah no kidding... But then let's make a BM clan or something there! We can all just grow at first, bide our time, and then declare war on them! We play a strategy game like BM, I'm sure we can kick their buts 8) Who's up for it??
Uhm... FTO is not that kind of game. We'd never get together because you can't make it so we all get born in the same colony...
Good point :'( Oh well. There's still quite a bit of havoc you can wreak on your own ;D
Quote from: Jon Snow on January 12, 2013, 09:01:15 AM
Good point :'( Oh well. There's still quite a bit of havoc you can wreak on your own ;D
Well, there's no real need to wreak havoc just for the sake of it. I mean, we have already agreed that they are completely missing several awesome features of the game, and wasting its potential in a very mean manner. But hey, if they're happier that way, then so be it.
What I can see is some sort of attempt to gather some BM players in a place, and call it home. Seems hard, since everyone is born in a different place, but we can try nonetheless.
My Talian is wandering the world looking for more colonies. So far all I have found is empty land, after ~8 years of walking.
Quote from: D'Espana on January 14, 2013, 12:51:01 AM
What I can see is some sort of attempt to gather some BM players in a place, and call it home. Seems hard, since everyone is born in a different place, but we can try nonetheless.
That's what I originally said, but if the world's so big that you wander for 8 years without finding anything, how would we ever find ourselves? My character has almost been created though, and we can always give it a shot. It would be tons of fun if we could actually link up in the game.
Well, one way now that we have some players who are over mating age... just inform example here or IRC that you are Next In Line or close to it... and we see if we have someone who could have you as a baby :P To make this work, we need to play like they... home for a while to get people in the game...
-Jaune
Sure thing :) I'm at 23 now though, so it'll take a while longer.
Well, it's a possibility, but the thought of having a dozen accounts just waiting in line makes me sick.
Who was the one that had that colony they were trying to set up? I'm #6 in the queue...
Well, i am on mating age... but havent done much of flirting any girls yet... "Hey girl, Hurry hurry... pants off! I want some babies... NOW!"
-Jaune
I think that line will work, go for it :)
jaune, didn't you have a character in the same colony as my folke? :-[
I think no?
I have only characters at Kindred and some silly merfolk... I have been a bit "inactive" lately... BM has some hectic times as well as my life...
Im legitimately surprised at the amount of Mauri on this forum. Are there any others who are?
2 preggers, I'm #1 in the queue....
Quote from: Indirik on January 19, 2013, 05:04:16 AM
2 preggers, I'm #1 in the queue....
when all of a sudden a bunch of in actives join the queue...
Did they? I'm still at 14. Didn't notice a drop for me.
Quote from: Jon Snow on January 19, 2013, 06:58:31 AM
Did they? I'm still at 14. Didn't notice a drop for me.
No I am just joking.
Well, my second character was born. Unnamed baby girl #2 in the jungle somewhere. Some kind of pointy-eared, red-haired jungle elf?
I'm giving it a go despite the unpromising reports about the community. Maybe I'll get lucky, maybe I'll be the victim of infanticide. Only way to make the game better is to get better players in there.
You might be near my character Indirik. I'm in a place the locals named Harmony Bay.
I probably won't know for a couple weeks.
Quote from: jaune on January 16, 2013, 10:06:50 AM
Well, i am on mating age... but havent done much of flirting any girls yet... "Hey girl, Hurry hurry... pants off! I want some babies... NOW!"
-Jaune
LOL ;D Yeah, I'll try that next time I'm partying. Should work perfectly, no chances of getting beaten afterwards. Yup.
In my case, those little bastards are better at flirting than myself. Have had like, 10 babies in a month? That's prowess, if you know what I mean ;)
Quote from: AddyFo on January 17, 2013, 11:58:28 PM
Im legitimately surprised at the amount of Mauri on this forum. Are there any others who are?
Here you have a furry fellah. Tel'C in some lost mountainous place.
Quote from: Dishman on January 19, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
I'm giving it a go despite the unpromising reports about the community. Maybe I'll get lucky, maybe I'll be the victim of infanticide. Only way to make the game better is to get better players in there.
Let us know who you are when you are born. Who knows, perhaps you'll be one of our relatives!
Quote from: Sypher on January 21, 2013, 10:53:34 AM
You might be near my character Indirik. I'm in a place the locals named Harmony Bay.
Apparently I am a Noljeni. Daughter of Kylan (the father) and Myla (the mother I think, hard to tell.)
Ahh, well thats a bit to the Northeast of where my character is I think. Some of my character's siblings were heading there. I'll probably keep my character in Harmony Bay for a bit, will see if he can romance another character. Options were pretty limited until now due to being way more guys than girls in my area.
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Congratulations, you're next in line to be born!
About time!! ;D
My character is now following a girl through the mountains to some place called the Falls. He's fallen in love with the first young lady to show interest in him.
Traveling sucks... I can see why some don't travel much...
My Talian character has been travelling nearly without rest for about 12 IC years. He has finally found a route south,. Unfortunately, he is not well suited to the south lands, and my not be able to go much farther.
Quote from: Indirik on January 29, 2013, 03:48:38 AM
My Talian character has been travelling nearly without rest for about 12 IC years. He has finally found a route south,. Unfortunately, he is not well suited to the south lands, and my not be able to go much farther.
wow, have you mapped out the areas you've visited? I've been using a google doc to note the places I've been so far (which really isn't much yet).
Yes, I have, along with a few notes. Other than my starting village, though, I have only met one single person. A nude teenage girl who ran into a decaying hut I found somewhere, cooked some food, and then ran away again while I was offline. Never even got to say hi. There is so much empty land... so empty.
Well, I have reached another village... seems to be mostly lizard-folk.
I got pretty far south this time. Managed to find a desert. No signs of people at all.
You prollly have gone past Kindred people already...
South from Kindred are Folke people(some sort of faeries)... no clue about the route, i have never visited outside the city :D
-Jaune
The problem with finding another settlement is that it's so easy to miss them and go right past.
Well, I have two fish folks and a cat, and at least for the fishies things have gone interesting. We have moved to another place as a colony (hooray for the change), leaving quite a bunch of inactives behind; and I have discovered that the other has magic. I haven't used it yet, but I can at least enchant things, and I have been told that it's likely that I can either speak by telepathy or teleport. If the latter comes to be true, you know who's gonna visit you soon? 8)
Went from 150 to 87 in the birth queue...one month down and probably two more to go before I face inevitable infanticide.
Ah, D'Esapana, i guess we are at same fish colony then? I'm Markku! Youngest mer around :)
Quote from: jaune on February 06, 2013, 10:05:35 AM
Ah, D'Esapana, i guess we are at same fish colony then? I'm Markku! Youngest mer around :)
Yes, we are. I'm Heikki in that one, nice to see a fellow BMer with me!
Hey, forum and BM newbie, here! I'm also in FTO- sounds like some of us are in the same colonies. I play Keto, Kuai, and Haako!
My Talian found another colony, but it's not the Kindred like I thought it would be. Looks kind of small, in a forest region.
Huh. It sounds like it would be Kindred! Any idea what sort of colony it is?
Maern Forest? The locals are talking about gods named Maern and Bhall. I think they call themselves the "descended".
Yeah, i guess it is Kindreds colony... not same as where my char is... I have been trying to "hit" my cousin girl for 2 years... she went inactive at mines... i have been on mines for 2 years now :D Waiting her to wake up and make babies with me :D
Cave sechs FTW!
-Jaune
Quote from: shenanigan on February 10, 2013, 09:10:22 PM
Hey, forum and BM newbie, here! I'm also in FTO- sounds like some of us are in the same colonies. I play Keto, Kuai, and Haako!
Well, welcome to both forum and BM! I'm with you in two mer colonies (Damasko and Heikki ring a bell? ;))
On another news, I'm trying to make my little wizard to manifest his powers, possibly fighting barefist against a damned jellyfish. Please don't laugh very much if he dies ;D
Damasko and Heikki does ring a bell! Honestly, I think Damasko will be fine fighting jellyfish. Keto attacked one bare-handed at age five being a stupid wannabehunterkid. I put a shark skin shirt in his inventory for armor. The key is that if your health gets in yellow or orange, to disengage.
Quote from: shenanigan on February 12, 2013, 07:51:22 PM
Damasko and Heikki does ring a bell! Honestly, I think Damasko will be fine fighting jellyfish. Keto attacked one bare-handed at age five being a stupid wannabehunterkid. I put a shark skin shirt in his inventory for armor. The key is that if your health gets in yellow or orange, to disengage.
I know, I learnt it when I fought with my two-metres feline against a parrot in an epic battle... and had to disengage. Was like, WTF?
Well, my character is now a father. Had... 1 son. I guess its time to try again so we can populate this game.
Quote from: Sypher on February 26, 2013, 03:26:02 AM
Well, my character is now a father. Had... 1 son. I guess its time to try again so we can populate this game.
I'm on my way to it. Had 15 babies with the cat (8 survive) and 2 with the fish (1 lives) It's also funny that in the cat village all the kittens that we currently have are mine. Gotta make'em all! ;)
Neither my Mag nor my Folke can find anyone to mate with. :-( Should have been a boy instead.
I'm working on try number two for more kids. First kid has yet to post anything...
Quote from: Gloria on February 28, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
Neither my Mag nor my Folke can find anyone to mate with. :-( Should have been a boy instead.
Yes, I've seen more females around than males. I've not had problems to mate as a male, to this point. In fact, quite the opposite.
Quote from: Sypher on March 01, 2013, 04:55:25 AM
I'm working on try number two for more kids. First kid has yet to post anything...
That sucks. I really, really don't get what most people do in this game: so you create account, set up birth, then forget? Better yet, play for a time and then leave it to starve? Oh well...
Quote from: D'Espana on March 04, 2013, 02:55:15 AM
That sucks. I really, really don't get what most people do in this game: so you create account, set up birth, then forget? Better yet, play for a time and then leave it to starve? Oh well...
I wouldn't be surprised if the player decided he didn't want the character because of its stats, race or lack of magic ability.
But, my character has a second kid now. A girl, and she has already posted an rp.
Don't think it's for the magic, you only discover it at a latter stage. But for the rest yeah, I'd say that's part of the problem. And congrats on the kid! I'm also waiting for the next bunch. One? Two? Six? Who knows! ;)
Just let us know when you're expecting kids. I, for example, still have an inactive account that should be in front of the line by now. I can't get into it right now, but hopefully in the future I can try joining your colony.
Pregnant Mothers: 0
Your position in the birth queue is: 2
-Jaune
Four more kitties for the cat village. Now it should be a while until the next mating... I guess?
Quote from: Sypher on February 05, 2013, 07:20:34 AM
Well, I have reached another village... seems to be mostly lizard-folk.
Sssssssssetsssssssssssssss.
Set huh... I think someone before mentioned the disproportional number of women compared to men. I'm seeing it where my character is at. Among the Set where my character is there are 4 men & 7 women, though a number of them are still kids.
Among the non-Set, it seems that an Anubis & human got together to have some kids. The tablet showing the family tree is kinda sad... the two grandparents have 5 kids. 2 of the kids go on to grow up and have 9 kids together. But, of the original 5 siblings, only one is still around (who never found a mate and is now middle aged). And for the younger generation, only 1 of the 9 grand-kids remains (the one my character has mated with).
So, how do I put this... How long can it take to actually cross a ****ing region in this game? Hell, I've been 3 days (if not more) travelling from my mountain home to the neighboring desert. I'm quite worried about my cat starving, since I didn't feed him at the start of the way (I didn't think it was going to take SO long) Some travel expert in the forum, please?
I don't think I've ever seen it take more than 24 hours.
What's your travel skill? If you're making an especially hard passage with little or no skill, it really would take longer.
Poorer than poor. Never made him travel before.
So I've been born as baby Irvahn, the only boy in a litter with 5 girls. Apparently I'll be a slender 6 foot blue person with purple hair. Somewhere called "Seal Lake" (Location: Street), guess we'll see if the 4 month wait was worth it.
:) That's the new locaiton of the Talian colony. I was born as one of the five girls.
One of my other characters, Vortah, is a Talian that ran away from home. Enroen is Vortah's uncle. I *think*, though I'm not sure, that Semarala is Vortah's sister.
Neat. The parents seem friendly, so maybe we get to escape infanticide. After checking other's attributes, it looks like I lost the genetic lottery with below average stats (and horrid constitution). It looks like the area has promise, though.
My character has left the Set village with his wife and kid and after a detour has ended up in Nolja... Which apparently was only a small trip from his birthplace. Nolja seems to be keeping with the trend of more women than men with 7 women to 3 men.
Found a map here in Nolja that someone had made, the island seems to be a larger one.
What is your character's name? My character in Nolja is named Elora.
His name is Corran.
I finally quit this game. Totally uninteresting. About all they do is play house, RP growing up, and complain about people who pick up a knife before they're given permission from their parents. Boring. Not only that, but the ridiculous focus about keeping everything IG means that everything in the game is temporary, and quickly falls apart. There is no meaningful history or collection of past events or exploits. If you build something, it quickly falls apart. So the entire game has this temporary, ephemeral feeling to it. There are so few players/characters, and so much space, that 99.9% of the game is just an empty wasteland.
My character die, so as well this will be my leave of FTO.
Is not much what i expected.
I finally remembered to log in again and apparently I am the next to be born. But I think is not worthy the try right?
If people I trust say is not worthy...
IMO, it's not worth it. The game is dead. The world needs several thousand players to make it really interesting. And there's maybe 100 now. Maybe less. It's essentially a pure RP game. The few mechanics that exist are mostly for making food, and completely useless items. The players almost exclusively use the game for RPing raising families. But there are no mechanics to support it, so they have a strict set of unwritten rules you need to follow, or your character risks getting killed by people who are afraid you'll be a griefer and kill them.
Every time you start a new character, you have to go through RPing the whole stupid "growing up" period again. With *every* character. And then when you have your own kids, you'll have to RP raising them. Every time you have kids. And 3/4s of the kids you have will die of starvation inside of a few days. And half the rest will die of starvation within a few weeks. Because they're not played, because the birth system is retarded.
But, hey, if RPing being a housewife and pretending to raise kids is something that sounds interesting to you, then go for it. Because that's *all* you will do in this game.
lol
No, thanks.
I prefer other kind of stories :)
If you want to do pure RP, Mizahar is a much better collaborative story website.
I can't even make my chars here RP as much as I want...
Quote from: Indirik on June 02, 2013, 02:47:33 AM
IMO, it's not worth it. The game is dead. The world needs several thousand players to make it really interesting. And there's maybe 100 now. Maybe less. It's essentially a pure RP game. The few mechanics that exist are mostly for making food, and completely useless items. The players almost exclusively use the game for RPing raising families. But there are no mechanics to support it, so they have a strict set of unwritten rules you need to follow, or your character risks getting killed by people who are afraid you'll be a griefer and kill them.
Every time you start a new character, you have to go through RPing the whole stupid "growing up" period again. With *every* character. And then when you have your own kids, you'll have to RP raising them. Every time you have kids. And 3/4s of the kids you have will die of starvation inside of a few days. And half the rest will die of starvation within a few weeks. Because they're not played, because the birth system is retarded.
But, hey, if RPing being a housewife and pretending to raise kids is something that sounds interesting to you, then go for it. Because that's *all* you will do in this game.
This is essentially my feelings. It was funny, I hadn't considered griefing until everyone in the village demanded I stop making simple tools like knife/hammer/needle in fear that I intended to grief. Added to that, I still have no idea who is talking. "little girl" and "adult woman" aren't helpful titles for who is talking when there are 3 or 4 of each.
I can only agree with what's being said here, but you can click on those 'Adult woman' and 'Little girl' things to change their names just to clarify.
We are sorry to inform you that your character, Stasya, has perished. You may still log into your account and create a new character at any time.
Cause of death: Starved to death
Rest in peace Stasya. Maybe I will have a new char with her name at BM :)
I've been playing this game a while and I see so much unfulfilled potential
I think the game is impossibly creepy as well, outside the sparse settlements there's literally nothing and the people in the settlement are so blunted and blind to the nothingness of the world... everything feels so temporary, the world is like a gigantic absurdist parable. There's definitely a dystopian atmosphere and some existentialist themes; my one character had a conversation with his parents about his travels and concluded that in between settlements there's nothing, but in the other settlements the people were strange and distant always preoccupied with useless things.
Creepy ass game.
I imagine if you had 3000 or 4000 players, you could actually do something with this game.
Oh, and get rid of the obsession with keeping all knowledge in-game. A good wiki would work wonders.
I created a new account, hopefull the queue would be short and there would be a lot of pregnant women. How is Semarala doing?
I know this is kind of an old topic, but I thought those who participated might be interested.
Since the old FTO forums got shut down by the creator some time ago, a new fan-made forum has been created for the players to discuss the game among themselves and plan with their in-game families.
http://ftounofficial.boards.net/
This game is still alive? :o
Meh. This game had some serious playability issues that totally killed it for me. Included waiting six weeks to start playing.
Yeah, I agree. I'm 150th on the birth queue now and seriously does that mean I have to wait for 150 women to get pregnant? Seriously? I think the problem with this game is that the long wait means most players would quit even before they were born.
If you guys really want a game that is very similar to Battlemaster, just more complex, check out my topic about Star Wars Combine. When you start out, remember to join a faction (preferably Tresario Star Kingdom) and you will accumulate millions in no time. :) See you there!
Yes. You do need to wait for150 pregnancies. The long wait is why most children never wake up.
Also, lots of players run multiple accounts. Multi accounting is not against the rules.
Quote from: Geminus on June 16, 2015, 11:45:51 AM
Yeah, I agree. I'm 150th on the birth queue now and seriously does that mean I have to wait for 150 women to get pregnant? Seriously? I think the problem with this game is that the long wait means most players would quit even before they were born.
If you guys really want a game that is very similar to Battlemaster, just more complex, check out my topic about Star Wars Combine. When you start out, remember to join a faction (preferably Tresario Star Kingdom) and you will accumulate millions in no time. :) See you there!
Played it, rubbish game in my opinion. Waited years for combat to actually be implemented, and when it was it was a giant disappointment. Production/Item creation allows for nothing interesting or exciting either.
Well, its fun for me.
You probably didn't find it fun because maybe you didn't understand the game properly. It isn't all about combat. Its more about roleplaying, production, economy and trade. War is not meant to be a core part of the game. Nevertheless, we all have different preferences, I can't force you.
Quote from: Geminus on June 16, 2015, 04:01:46 PM
Well, its fun for me.
You probably didn't find it fun because maybe you didn't understand the game properly. It isn't all about combat. Its more about roleplaying, production, economy and trade. War is not meant to be a core part of the game. Nevertheless, we all have different preferences, I can't force you.
Played for years, helping another BMer that was very into it. Its not that I didn't get it, its just strip it of the Star Wars setting and what do you have. A bunch of half realised systems. Perhaps if research was ever implemented it might have held my attention, but that is just another feature that is more then 5 years on the drawing board.
OK...
Anyway I'm 134th on the birth queue now after one whole week. Yay. :-\