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BattleMaster => Locals => Beluaterra => Topic started by: Tom on July 23, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
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With the 5th invasion over, it is time to post something that I had decided months ago already:
This was the last GM-led invasion. I simply can not justify the amount of time and effort it takes, and the thanklesness of the task.
BT will still have more PvE than the typical BM continent, but it won't be in this style anymore. Details have not yet been worked out.
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This was the last GM-led invasion. I simply can not justify the amount of time and effort it takes, and the thanklesness of the task.
I was around for the third, fourth and fifth invasions. Wasn't much involved in this one (been busy this year), but some of my best moments in BM were in the GM led invasions. The third invasion was what really hooked me onto BM. Rampaging joining RoF, Prudents machinations, the conversion of Vlandaaren by Arcane, the diplomatic manoeuvring surrounding the factions in the fifth, the monster-daimon rivalry, and how much humans could get invested into the story... It's a shame there won't be a GM led sixth invasion. :-\
It's been really awesome.
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and the thanklesness of the task.
It's indeed not said often enough.
Thank you!
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The only GM invasion I didn't care much for was the 4th, which seemed a little inconsistent, overpowered, and then just went a little nuts with the "Light" being introduced just to end it. I still think the only reason people did complain quite as much as they did, though, was mortality.
Anyways, something I loved about the fifth invasion, story aside, was a simple mechanic. I n the previous invasions you had immigration to BT cut off. I enjoyed the fact that it stayed open this time, giving everyone a chance at the fun. Please keep that as a constant, even if you have to make new arrivals shipwreck near random ports- let them at least keep coming.
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Would this be something of a return to the style of the first and second invasions (as I understand them to have been)? I.e. large AI controlled invading forces?
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First: THANK YOU! ;D
mmm... wherever, GM-led invasion is one thing, and human-led invasion is other... maybe the next could be managed by players? A bright light on the sky, and some nobles are turned into abominations! :P
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People complain too much and don't thank enough. Now we won't have anymore what may be BM's most fun feature... :'(
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Noooooo, does this mean mermaids arent going to start invading from the sunken cities?
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People complain too much and don't thank enough. Now we won't have anymore what may be BM's most fun feature... :'(
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Even thought i didnt take much of part for the invasion, mainly sitting at my city and laughed other peoples misery... this was fun! Big thanks to Tom and Fingolfin(King of Thalmarkin)...
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Thank you Tom for all the time you have invested to provide us fun. Perhaps there would be some other interesting features implemented to keep BTs theme?
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There is a new game mechanic now for future "invasions". They will be a lot more player-driven, and have a lot more of a PvP atmosphere. You will see...
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Ominous words, eh? :)
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How long will we have until the next invasion? A year? It will take a RL year to rebuild all the damaged regions...
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How long will we have until the next invasion? A year? It will take a RL year to rebuild all the damaged regions...
This time, it depends on you...
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This time, it depends on you...
Any plan on speeding up the recovery speed, Tom? Instead of making things take a RL year, maybe 6 months?
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Nah, the recovery is part of the process! The fruits of labour will be so much sweeter!
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The new takeover system, troop provisions code and peasant migration code should make it easier to reclaim the rogue regions.
Though there are a lot of rogue regions with populations in the single or double digits.
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i fail to see how troop provision code would make it easier XD
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i fail to see how troop provision code would make it easier XD
Its harder to run a takeover on a starving region when your troops keep getting sick.
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I was around for the third, fourth and fifth invasions. Wasn't much involved in this one (been busy this year), but some of my best moments in BM were in the GM led invasions. The third invasion was what really hooked me onto BM. Rampaging joining RoF, Prudents machinations, the conversion of Vlandaaren by Arcane, the diplomatic manoeuvring surrounding the factions in the fifth, the monster-daimon rivalry, and how much humans could get invested into the story... It's a shame there won't be a GM led sixth invasion. :-\
It's been really awesome.
This about sums it up for me. The Third Invasion was glorious and I really enjoyed the Fourth one too. I didn't turn up for the Fifth, but knowing that there won't be true invasion again I wish I had! Many thanks to all the devs/GMs involved that made Beluaterra such an exciting place for so long :-)
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Don't worry, we might get a Zuma Invasion soon! B-)
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Don't worry, we might get a Zuma Invasion soon! B-)
tell me
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The only GM invasion I didn't care much for was the 4th, which seemed a little inconsistent, overpowered, and then just went a little nuts with the "Light" being introduced just to end it. I still think the only reason people did complain quite as much as they did, though, was mortality.
Anyways, something I loved about the fifth invasion, story aside, was a simple mechanic. I n the previous invasions you had immigration to BT cut off. I enjoyed the fact that it stayed open this time, giving everyone a chance at the fun. Please keep that as a constant, even if you have to make new arrivals shipwreck near random ports- let them at least keep coming.
The third started out great. But it got dull when the undead and monsters left, and it dragged on for way too long.
I did not enjoy the fourth invasion, the mortality hollowed out realms and depopulated a continent that already had one of the lowest character per region ratio (if not the lowest of all). The monster GM abusing special mechanics and other such incidents did not help either...
The fifth invasion was better than the fourth, even if not as memorable as the third. More straightforward, which I think many appreciated over the confusing plots of previous invasions. And even though this invasion crippled Enweil much more than the last, and strengthened Rio much more than the last, at least it didn't feel like a GM's vendetta this time around...
While GM invasions offer a lot more possibilities than scripted invasions, they also do present a whole lot more frustration. The idea of invasions by scrolls seems interesting, but it also seems to be limited to very localized mini-invasions, so I'm not sure if that will be able to bring the same kind of atmosphere. Still, seems like a good idea.
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The idea of invasions by scrolls seems interesting, but it also seems to be limited to very localized mini-invasions, so I'm not sure if that will be able to bring the same kind of atmosphere.
All it takes is a few people as crazy as your characters and it can get really nasty. The first time two major realms nuke each other this way, I suggest we revisit this point. :-)
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I'm looking forward to it.
For some reason, though, I don't feel like I will personally be able to get my hands (or influence) over a significant number. At least, not as quickly as those who would use it on me. ;)
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Let the arms race begin.
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Let the arms race begin.
I'm eagerly awaiting the first "test detonations".
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Hmm.... if they are scroll-based, then the effects, and even whether or not the casting itself is successful to begin with, would be based on the user's spellcasting skill. That could seriously put a crimp in someone's plans if they run into the middle of their hated enemy's realms, read off the scroll, and it fizzles.
Now... which realm has the most skilled spellcaster? Will there be a run on scrolls in order for realms to train up skilled spellcasters? Will any realms outlaw magic and the use of scrolls? Which realm will be the first to regulate scrolls and their use in order to turn it into a realm-based resource, used only at the discretion of the realm leadership? Who will be the first to use it against their own realm?
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Hmm, sounds like some of the issues the first few physicists and politicians had to deal with. :P
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Now... which realm has the most skilled spellcaster? Will there be a run on scrolls in order for realms to train up skilled spellcasters? Will any realms outlaw magic and the use of scrolls? Which realm will be the first to regulate scrolls and their use in order to turn it into a realm-based resource, used only at the discretion of the realm leadership? Who will be the first to use it against their own realm?
Some of that is already happening. :-)
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Which realm will be the first to regulate scrolls and their use in order to turn it into a realm-based resource, used only at the discretion of the realm leadership?
Thalmarkin already had an existing structure to deal with anything arcane.
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Some of that is already happening. :-)
Now here's a fun question: When you use one, is it obvious who did it? I.e., is there a game announcement that "Sir Death Wish has just summoned 100 monsters in Keplerville," or do you just get the standard "Someone has cast magic in the vicinity." I can see some people moving into a region with a bunch of other nobles around, using one, and then blaming it on someone else. To me, this sounds like great fun. I rather hope that's how it works, or I fear that people will be too chicken!@#$ to use them most of the time.
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Would be even funnier if it spawns happens like a week after....
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All of those are things you'll need to test out, and the first realm who does it will have an information advantage. You might need more than one test to find the truth.
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hmm... tempted to get a scroll and use it now.
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I am really looking forth to this.
Tom another great idea!
However one question pops up, will a realm also be able to not burn witches or perhaps get rid of these scrolss, in other words, destroy them?
I could imagine that some faiths are strongly against the use of 'evil' scrolls.
A realm can now only illigalize magic casting in general, there is not a real way to stop or prevent just the 'evil' ones, which ever that religion or philosophy might think as such.
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Right now, there is no way to destroy scrolls without using them. I am, however, thinking about something.
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Thalmarkin already had an existing structure to deal with anything arcane.
SHUT UP LORGAN GOOOOODDD XD
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If scrolls can't be taken by judges in prison, then nobody can FORCE the exchange of a scroll, right? If so, what's the point of spending any time coding it when you can instead perform the holy duty of safeguarding these "instruments of evil?"