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Title: City RTO
Post by: Hinamoto on September 06, 2012, 10:53:23 PM
Is it possible for a priest to RTO a city extremely far from that priest capital and immediatelly form a new realm there? I mean... if that can be mecanically possible since it would need several nobles aiding there plus some other regions to feed that city or traders, etc.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Indirik on September 06, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
RTO does not require an adjacent region. So technically you could RTO a region on the opposite side of thee map. However, only a duke can secede. And only the ruler can create a new duchy. So your ruler would have to make the priest a duke. Then you could secede. So you can't do it without your ruler's help.

I am not sure if there is a time limit between being appointed and being able to secede.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Hinamoto on September 07, 2012, 12:04:35 AM
Quote from: Indirik on September 06, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
RTO does not require an adjacent region. So technically you could RTO a region on the opposite side of thee map. However, only a duke can secede. And only the ruler can create a new duchy. So your ruler would have to make the priest a duke. Then you could secede. So you can't do it without your ruler's help.

I am not sure if there is a time limit between being appointed and being able to secede.

Thanks Indi,

The ruler does not need to be in the city to appoint that priest right?
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Indirik on September 07, 2012, 12:44:35 AM
Correct.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Bedwyr on September 07, 2012, 04:29:00 AM
Quote from: Indirik on September 06, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
I am not sure if there is a time limit between being appointed and being able to secede.

Isn't it fourteen days?
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Indirik on September 07, 2012, 05:31:09 AM
There used to be a 14 day wait for various things to prevent things like stab-buy-secede, or stab-buy-destroy. (Alternatively without the stab in some cases.) I am not sure if the waiting period got ported to the new hierarchy.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Telrunya on September 07, 2012, 11:36:35 AM
There was some sort of 21-day wait, but I get the option to secede as Duke of Irombro immediately and can select the name of the Realm etc. It might deny it when I actually click it, but I'm not going to try that.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Foundation on September 07, 2012, 04:22:06 PM
For science, Telrunya, for science.  And you know you want to. :P
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Telrunya on September 07, 2012, 05:29:54 PM
Irombrozia will be reborn! For Science! :P
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Bedwyr on September 07, 2012, 08:43:46 PM
Heh, you'd even have a Bedwyr around again, to either help crush or liberate, depending on how he's convinced.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Vellos on September 08, 2012, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: Telrunya on September 07, 2012, 05:29:54 PM
Irombrozia will be reborn! For Science! :P

I will bring a character back faster than you can say "Resurrected Monarchy" if this ever happens.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Chenier on September 11, 2012, 02:27:11 AM
Quote from: Telrunya on September 07, 2012, 11:36:35 AM
There was some sort of 21-day wait, but I get the option to secede as Duke of Irombro immediately and can select the name of the Realm etc. It might deny it when I actually click it, but I'm not going to try that.

I seceded to form Xerolco the turn I did the RTO. I think things changed (more than once) since though.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Anaris on September 11, 2012, 04:13:50 AM
Quote from: Chénier on September 11, 2012, 02:27:11 AM
I seceded to form Xerolco the turn I did the RTO. I think things changed (more than once) since though.

Abuses like that are exactly why things have been changed.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Penchant on September 11, 2012, 05:06:33 AM
Quote from: Anaris on September 11, 2012, 04:13:50 AM
Abuses like that are exactly why things have been changed.
How is that abuse?
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Indirik on September 11, 2012, 05:36:22 AM
You're not supposed to be able to secede that fast. It's ridiculous to be able to auto da fe, claim lordship, and secede immediately.  Certain related things (stab>buy>secede) caused major issues in the past. A key to controling that is to allow judges and realms time to react and deal with things. Hence the waiting period.
Title: Re: City RTO
Post by: Chenier on September 11, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: Indirik on September 11, 2012, 05:36:22 AM
You're not supposed to be able to secede that fast. It's ridiculous to be able to auto da fe, claim lordship, and secede immediately.  Certain related things (stab>buy>secede) caused major issues in the past. A key to controling that is to allow judges and realms time to react and deal with things. Hence the waiting period.

Wouldn't have mattered in this case. I RTOd it from Netherworld after all of the GMs had gone. Or from rogue. Something like that, before the new restrictions on what regions can be RTOed was implemented.