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Title: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Penchant on January 28, 2013, 05:18:19 AM
What's the rationale behind not allowing government members to attend tournaments?
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Poliorketes on January 29, 2013, 11:30:58 AM
Quote from: Penchant on January 28, 2013, 05:18:19 AM
What's the rationale behind not allowing government members to attend tournaments?

Topic: Tournament-No Government members allowed?  (Read 37 times, 0 Replies)... mmm... maybe none?  :P
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Solari on January 29, 2013, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: Penchant on January 28, 2013, 05:18:19 AM
What's the rationale behind not allowing government members to attend tournaments?

As I understand it, because running a realm requires effort, and it won't do to have councilors cavorting around the continent neglecting their duties. There was a time, on EC for example, when a tournament was held weekly.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Norrel on January 29, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: Solari on January 29, 2013, 02:26:51 PM
As I understand it, because running a realm requires effort, and it won't do to have councilors cavorting around the continent neglecting their duties.

Shouldn't that be up to the councilors?
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on January 29, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Yeah, isn't it part of the IR that no one can tell you that you can't go to a tournament?
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Solari on January 29, 2013, 03:44:23 PM
You aren't forced to be a Councilor. IRs don't apply. Now, that's not to say that there haven't been very good points raised in this thread. What we need, then, is a proper feature request.  ;)
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Indirik on January 29, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
I'm fairly certain there is a thread on the forums about this. I think Tom said something about allowing some characters other than the councilors to be the center of attention for a little bit.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Chenier on January 29, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
I don't remember ever being given a satisfying answer, but this has come up a few times over the years.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Sacha on January 30, 2013, 07:18:57 AM
Quote from: Indirik on January 29, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
I'm fairly certain there is a thread on the forums about this. I think Tom said something about allowing some characters other than the councilors to be the center of attention for a little bit.

If you need a tournament to get attention as a council member, I'd say you're not doing your day job right :p
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: vonGenf on January 30, 2013, 09:52:04 AM
Quote from: Sacha on January 30, 2013, 07:18:57 AM
If you need a tournament to get attention as a council member, I'd say you're not doing your day job right :p

That's not really the point. Even if you are doing your job right and don't need extra attention, it may be fun to participate in tournaments and relax a bit.

I remember Tom mentioning that it wouldn't be realistic for Kings to participate as no one in their right mind would beat them, people would just fold. Taking that argument to its logical conclusions, however, it's Dukes who should be banned, and not bankers.....
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Draco Tanos on January 30, 2013, 11:24:43 AM
Would still be nice if we could go as observers.

Nice option would be for observing priests to be able to give sermons/convert nobles while present and/or offer blessings to participants.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Indirik on January 30, 2013, 03:35:14 PM
An observer status at tournaments would be nice.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Anaris on January 30, 2013, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: Indirik on January 30, 2013, 03:35:14 PM
An observer status at tournaments would be nice.

I agree, and some of the framework is already in place.

I think that this is the kind of thing that can probably be implemented without too much extra hassle once the Doctrine transition is done. (Unless Tom drops in and simply says, "No," which I don't think he will, given his comments on the subject in the past.)
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Sacha on January 30, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
Mmm.. probably idle hope, but if the observe feature gets added, perhaps... give council members a chance to compete in a disguise? They'd get none of the honor/fame but still take home gold. And it might make people curious as to who the mysterious masked figure could be :P
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Indirik on January 30, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
So you could compete as the Black Knight? And have a random chance that you get unmasked during the competition, and then *lose* prestige for the deception! :P
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Solari on January 30, 2013, 08:30:48 PM
Allowing Councilors to observe already adds a great deal of potential. Deals get done in large groups. Intrigues happen. Rumors spread! It incentivizes tournaments and their attendance in a totally different way.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Penchant on January 30, 2013, 10:18:36 PM
Quote from: Indirik on January 30, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
So you could compete as the Black Knight? And have a random chance that you get unmasked during the competition, and then *lose* prestige for the deception! :P
Sounds good to me even if you were joking.
Quote from: Solari on January 30, 2013, 08:30:48 PM
Allowing Councilors to observe already adds a great deal of potential. Deals get done in large groups. Intrigues happen. Rumors spread! It incentivizes tournaments and their attendance in a totally different way.
+1 though I think they should be able to participate too, even if it through the black knight option.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Indirik on January 30, 2013, 11:14:14 PM
I was only half-joking.
Title: Re: Tournament-No Government members allowed?
Post by: Perth on February 04, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
Quote from: Indirik on January 30, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
So you could compete as the Black Knight? And have a random chance that you get unmasked during the competition, and then *lose* prestige for the deception! :P

+1

Awesome idea.