Alura Aurea here. I was in the hospital for a while and my laptop was FUBAR so I never did get a chance to come back to BM from my vacation turned medical mess. What in the bloody hell happened in the time I was gone? Did Rynn, Alura's fiancee, get married to someone else? Are Perth, Vellos, and the rest still in Terran? What happened with Mendicant, was he really caught cheating (...Big surprise.) and banned? I've heard fragmented rumors here and there, that's about it.
As for me, my account was apparently deleted in the time I was gone. Alura, Alekhthaeos, Ehndras, and the lot are all gone forever. All that awesome RP deleted forever... Or is it?
I've been informed its not against the rules to recreate my old characters since they were relatively new and I'm not really gaining anything other than the continuation of my characters' story. I made a new family, the Tenebrae, but I just requested my account be deleted so I can get back into the game.
...I figure it'll be entertaining if Alura wakes from a coma to find Terran broken, her fiancee married to another woman, and the entire world turned upside down. Beats the hell out of killing off the extensive multi-branch RP background I created for the Aurea family based off of my fantasy novel work.
If anyone can help me make sense of this mess I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Many thanks!
Mors principium est,
G. J. Struck aka Alura Aurea, ruler of Terran, marshal of the Phantarian Pride
Rynn married Govenor General Khari of the Farronite Republic.
Terran is no more, atleast not as you know it. It has broken into Phantaria, lead by Grand Prince Kale Perth and New Terran, a theocracy that is doomed any day now. Asylon and the Farronites has also grabbed some regions from Old Terran.
Yes, Mendicant was banned for using multies, and Aurvandil has been crumbling ever since that incident.
Vellos is part of the Farronite Republic atm, but lays wounded after an assasins attack, if I understood it correctly.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 14, 2013, 10:34:54 AM...I figure it'll be entertaining if Alura wakes from a coma to find Terran broken, her fiancee married to another woman, and the entire world turned upside down.
You're in luck, since that's
exactly what happened. Rynn's married off to Khari, two realms split off from Terran (Phantaria and Saffalore), D'Hara took over Saffalore, Terran became a theocracy, Phantaria is on a mission to take over Terran now, and, oh yeah, the whole continent is at war. Have fun!
Of the nobles who existed back when you were there, Alna (me!), Gareth, Harim, Kale (the new leader), Roger, Scarlett, Vigilans, and Vijsktrol (and maybe Hadrian, not sure if you were "awake" when he appeared or not) are in Phantaria, along with some new faces. Some folks ran away and joined various realms in the north, a handful are still in Terran, trying everything they can not to lose.
I don't know... Coma is a bit lame, maybe come up with something better than that. Ideas could be
Kidnapped by rogue forces
kidnapped by another realm
Got cold feet about marrying Rynn and disappeared into the forest
Just be creative.
Terran's pretty much gone King Karbrinski of Terran apparently gave away most of it to D'Hara, which caused some chaos in D'Hara. Safflore was just destroyed.
See the great war thread for general war news.
Here's what happened to Terran, stated in as neutral a way I can put it:
Asylon, without announcing, attacked Terran from behind. We marched north to fight them as they fled. Meanwhile, Aurvandil landed a huge army in our territory in the south. Our forces were caught all over the place and smashed while Aurvandil hammered the Chateau.
Quintus, in an RP (not game mechanics), "surrendered" the Chateau to Aurvandil. Hireshmont had some reasonable suspicions that Quintus may have done more than that, but actually coordinated the invasion/surrender with Aurvandil (never clear if that was actually true). So he began calling Quintus a traitor, etc, etc.
Then, in a pre-organized plan, Shokalom and Chesney seceded to form Phantaria (Shokalom) and Saffalore (Chesney). This may seem weird: why was Chesney in the realm of Saffalore? Well, Quintus had planned on flipping the Chateau to Saffalore. But he misunderstood the game mechanics and was not able to flip the Chateau to the realm of Saffalore. So we got Terran in Chateau Saffalore, Saffalore in Chesney, and Phantaria in Shokalom.
Saffalore quickly pissed off D'Hara and Barca, so they attacked it. Phantaria soon attacked Terran. Meanwhile Hireshmont became ruler of Terran and made himself duke and lord because Quintus deleted his character in frustration.
The Moot then kicked all the Terran nobles out of the elderships.
Hireshmont, rejected by the Moot and with a crippled realm facing rival factions on both sides, realized he could reform Terran however he wanted. So he caused it to fall into anarchy, then reformed it as a Theocracy, and he invited Astroists from elsewhere to join. They did so.
Then Phantaria attacked Terran. Hireshmont lobbied the church very hard, and got the church to declare a defensive crusade to protect Terran from Phantaria. This Crusade was a huge success and forced Phantaria to back down, BUT, it seriously pissed off a lot of Astroists who dislike Hireshmont and sided with Phantaria, or who were upset at the precedent of the church declaring crusades to defend theocracies.
In Sanguis Astroism, the main figurehead for this opposition was King Leopold of Niselur. He caused a ruckus in SA and then declared war on Astrum. He was supported by Luria Nova, Libero Empire, Asylon, and the Farronite Republic. Astrum was supported by Morek, Terran, and Corsanctum.
Terran actually won its first battle against Phantaria and FR in this war, but there was no way they could hold out forever: so they are flipping their lands to D'Hara and going north to join Astrum. Astrum has won its first big battle against Niselur too, but is getting looted as well. Luria Nova and Morek haven't fought any major battles, just some lotting, but look to be brokering peace anyways.
So that's how things stand. Because of how widely diplomatically enmeshed Terran was, its implosion has caused ripples that have set all of Dwilight ablaze.
Quote from: Vellos on July 14, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
Because of how widely diplomatically enmeshed Terran was, its implosion has caused ripples that have set all of Dwilight ablaze.
Just as a side note: From my perspective, at least, I think that's a bit Terran-centric.
It looks to me more like large chunks of the continent were just looking for excuses to start their own little regional wars, and the various ripples that Terran's implosion
did cause have given them exactly what they wanted.
I don't think you can claim that the crusade was a huge success, the crusade achieved its initial goal, yes, but that almost literally the only 'positive' thing it accomplished. Considering the end result in the longer term is that Terran gets destroyed anyways, (just in a more prolonged fashion,) the rift in the church's diverging forces are exposed and there is a break in the Astroist federation in the north along with a good amount of disenchantment with the church, I do not think you can make a claim that the crusade was a "huge success".
Quote from: Daimall on July 14, 2013, 09:53:06 PM
I don't think you can claim that the crusade was a huge success, the crusade achieved its initial goal, yes, but that almost literally the only 'positive' thing it accomplished. Considering the end result in the longer term is that Terran gets destroyed anyways, (just in a more prolonged fashion,) the rift in the church's diverging forces are exposed and there is a break in the Astroist federation in the north along with a good amount of disenchantment with the church, I do not think you can make a claim that the crusade was a "huge success".
No, the Crusade was a huge success. It achieved its goals without having so much as a battle.
Because eventually something bad came of it doesn't mean it was a failure. You can win a battle and lose a war; you don't say that a won battle was actually lost because the casualties sustained in it lead to you losing a battle two months later.
Quote from: Anaris on July 14, 2013, 09:47:37 PM
Just as a side note: From my perspective, at least, I think that's a bit Terran-centric.
It looks to me more like large chunks of the continent were just looking for excuses to start their own little regional wars, and the various ripples that Terran's implosion did cause have given them exactly what they wanted.
This is probably true. But Ehndras was playing in Terran anyways, so Terran-centric explanations make sense.
Quote from: Vellos on July 14, 2013, 10:01:42 PM
No, the Crusade was a huge success. It achieved its goals without having so much as a battle.
Because eventually something bad came of it doesn't mean it was a failure. You can win a battle and lose a war; you don't say that a won battle was actually lost because the casualties sustained in it lead to you losing a battle two months later.
Vellos, I believe that what you described is called a Pyrrhic victory. Its a victory, technically, but the cost outweighed the benefits.
Quote from: Daimall on July 14, 2013, 10:08:19 PM
Vellos, I believe that what you described is called a Pyrrhic victory. Its a victory, technically, but the cost outweighed the benefits.
It's an inexact metaphor.
Pyrrhic victory implies you suffer so many losses you can't go on. That isn't what happened. The war was won without losses.
It's like the Alamo. The battle of the Alamo was a total defeat for the Texans in the Texan war of independence. It wasn't even really a pyrrhic victory for the Mexicans: it was just a victory of about the casualty ratio you' expect from taking a well-defended fortified position.
But it became a rallying cry. That doesn't mean it was anything less than a clear win for the Mexicans, just as the crusade for Terran was a clear win for Terran's side.
I guess that means Phantaria is like Texas. I think Perth would like that analogy, whenever he gets back from his honeymoon.
I'm rather sure that Phantaria attacked Terran *before* it became a theocracy.
Quote from: Vita on July 14, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
I'm rather sure that Phantaria attacked Terran *before* it became a theocracy.
Depends on when you think Terran became a theocracy.
If you go by when Hireshmont proclaimed it one and changed titles, no, they attacked after it became a theocracy.
If you go by when the period of anarchy finished, then they attacked before it became a theocracy.
Whatever the case, they attacked well after it became clear that Terran would in fact be a theocracy.
Quote from: Vellos on July 14, 2013, 09:41:19 PMSaffalore quickly pissed off D'Hara and Barca, so they attacked it.
Is that what happened? I thought D'Hara and Barca just attacked Saffalore with a low blow while it was vulnerable for purely territorial reasons. That's more realistic, anyway.
I'm also anxious to see if any of the Saffalorians come north to Phantaria, since we did say we'd take them in. Good for total military power, bad for what is already a very noble-dense realm. By Dwilight standards, of course - 11 or 12 in 5 regions is light for some areas, but on an island where probably the majority of realms have more regions than nobles to rule them, that's like Tokyo to Wyoming.
To give an Asylonian perspective to all of this since it was our initial battle that kicked most of this off...
We had already perceived Terran and D'Hara as becoming SA puppet states and were afraid of the regions around us forming a stable SA alliance. Aurvandil told us they were going to attack Terran and wanted our help. We saw this as a golden opportunity to mix up the region a bit and so readily jumped on board.
Afterward Asylon and FR were going to divide up Phantaria land. FR nabbed two or three regions and we got one too. Around this time we also got into contact with Perth. He assured us he had no strong feelings towards SA. We also felt sympathetic towards another underdog realm (though it can be argued we are hardly an underdog now, historically Asylon has always been pretty powerless) and also they didn't seem like they would become a threat anytime soon. We thought it would be more interesting to let them stay than split their lands with FR (not without dissent on our side) and FR didn't really seem to care too much and so we recognized their sovereignty.
Not too long after this is when their problems with new Terran really manifested politically, though of course it was inherent in some form since old Terran's collapse.
Unfortunate, because prior to my absence Asylon was on route to being our allies, Terran stabilizing, my marriage to Rynn to unite D'hara and Terran in the long-term, Mendicant and some Aurvandilites somewhat respected me and everyone enjoyed Alura far more than Hireshmont, which everyone and their mother were quite vocal in expressing.
I feel like my absence is what ruined Terran. It was my responsibility to keep the nation intact and things were going so well... If Perth would have me, I would return to Terran and do all in my power to reunite our lands, re-establish friendships, and bring peace to this absolute cluster!@#$. If that doesn't work, Alura can always go to D'hara or Asylon and continue the legacy.
Quote from: Forbes Family on July 14, 2013, 08:52:15 PM
Got cold feet about marrying Rynn and disappeared into the forest
^ Funny.
Sooooo, anyway, THIS is awkward. Hi, err, welcome back! Alura was gone for about 2 IG years and Rynn mourned her for dead. I am sorry you were unwell, but could not have anticipated your cpu breaking. When Rynn met Khari, with whom he had a political history, they hit it off. After a year of Marriage, Khari gave birth to twins: Kharynn and Kyrynn. Plenty of more details there and questions are welcome, but that's about the size of it.
As for Saffalore, Rynn convinced the House to declare war on it for a bunch of reasons he saw as valid. 1) With the exception of Judge/Ambassador Metis, Saffalore was a diplomatic roach motel. Messages went in and did not come out. plus Saffalore played host to some pretty infamous characters. 2) A monarchy in the middle of Mootland was doomed from the moment of its inception. 3) Saffalore came into being because of Aurvandil, more or less. 4) Rynn felt that Chesney's resources would be essential to stabilizing and defending D'Hara. Now, with access to some of the best RC's in the continent, D'Hara's armies will finally start growing some real teeth. 5) It's name was too damn confusing. You're not Saffalore, Chesney. Go home. You're drunk. 6) Chernier said I could. 7) D'Hara needed a war it could own, fight, and win on it's own terms. That was my decision as playing a ruling character and making the game interesting for my fellow realm mates. Victory helps. 8) Cooperation between Barca, D'Hara, and the Farronite Republic improved relations all around. 9) We ended up getting Metis into D'Hara. Woot! 10) Khari declared war on Saffalore first, blame Rynn's beautiful and passionate wife.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 15, 2013, 05:26:48 AM
Unfortunate, because prior to my absence Asylon was on route to being our allies, Terran stabilizing, my marriage to Rynn to unite D'hara and Terran in the long-term, Mendicant and some Aurvandilites somewhat respected me and everyone enjoyed Alura far more than Hireshmont, which everyone and their mother were quite vocal in expressing.
I feel like my absence is what ruined Terran. It was my responsibility to keep the nation intact and things were going so well... If Perth would have me, I would return to Terran and do all in my power to reunite our lands, re-establish friendships, and bring peace to this absolute cluster!@#$. If that doesn't work, Alura can always go to D'hara or Asylon and continue the legacy.
I feel the same way, only instead of Terran, I mean the Northern Astroist federation and SA in general.
Quote from: JeVondair on July 15, 2013, 05:55:34 AM
^ Funny.
Sooooo, anyway, THIS is awkward. Hi, err, welcome back! Alura was gone for about 2 IG years and Rynn mourned her for dead. I am sorry you were unwell, but could not have anticipated your cpu breaking. When Rynn met Khari, with whom he had a political history, they hit it off. After a year of Marriage, Khari gave birth to twins: Kharynn and Kyrynn. Plenty of more details there and questions are welcome, but that's about the size of it.
As for Saffalore, Rynn convinced the House to declare war on it for a bunch of reasons he saw as valid. 1) With the exception of Judge/Ambassador Metis, Saffalore was a diplomatic roach motel. Messages went in and did not come out. plus Saffalore played host to some pretty infamous characters. 2) A monarchy in the middle of Mootland was doomed from the moment of its inception. 3) Saffalore came into being because of Aurvandil, more or less. 4) Rynn felt that Chesney's resources would be essential to stabilizing and defending D'Hara. Now, with access to some of the best RC's in the continent, D'Hara's armies will finally start growing some real teeth. 5) It's name was too damn confusing. You're not Saffalore, Chesney. Go home. You're drunk. 6) Chernier said I could. 7) D'Hara needed a war it could own, fight, and win on it's own terms. That was my decision as playing a ruling character and making the game interesting for my fellow realm mates. Victory helps. 8) Cooperation between Barca, D'Hara, and the Farronite Republic improved relations all around. 9) We ended up getting Metis into D'Hara. Woot! 10) Khari declared war on Saffalore first, blame Rynn's beautiful and passionate wife.
Awesome to be back, bro! So, how about Alura arises from her deathly coma and starts some hell? ;) Alura and Rynn may not be engaged/married but I'm sure their friendship remains. I look forward to the challenge of rebuilding Terran. You know how I am: I love a challenge, the harder the better!
Quote from: Daycryn on July 15, 2013, 07:01:13 AM
I feel the same way, only instead of Terran, I mean the Northern Astroist federation and SA in general.
If it makes you feel better, this was coming whether you were there to stop it or not.
Rynn is mine! You best stay away!
Welcome back and glad to hear you are doing better.
Aww yeah, catfight! Haha, no need for that. :) Rynn was my greatest friend and ally in-game, outside of Lord Perth himself, and that's all I require. Awesome that y'all have kids, that's always an awesome IC opportunity, and whenever you retire your character(s) they're always a great choice in continuing your legacy from a different angle. :)
Quote from: Sarwell on July 15, 2013, 01:49:20 AM
Is that what happened? I thought D'Hara and Barca just attacked Saffalore with a low blow while it was vulnerable for purely territorial reasons. That's more realistic, anyway.
I'm also anxious to see if any of the Saffalorians come north to Phantaria, since we did say we'd take them in. Good for total military power, bad for what is already a very noble-dense realm. By Dwilight standards, of course - 11 or 12 in 5 regions is light for some areas, but on an island where probably the majority of realms have more regions than nobles to rule them, that's like Tokyo to Wyoming.
In addition to what Rynn said, Saffalore never responded to diplomatic missives (at least by Machiavel, privately, or in the 'moot in general), they consisted of a monarchy in lands the Treaty of the Maroccidens explicitely states as joint republican responsibility (along with Paisly and Rettleville), and had suspicious ties to Aurvandil and thus represented a serious threat right in core 'moot lands. Originally, it was intended to just break the monarchy, and invite the nobles to turn back into Terran or otherwise adopt a republican government. However, when D'Haran and Barcan forces began attacking (with FR's assistance, at first), they were slung a whole bunch of insults by really unpleasant people along with ramblings against the 'moot (and one guy even RPed throwing dung at Machiavel, in addition to talking like a savage), which just sealed the deal for a total annihilation without any possible compromise.
Both D'Hara and Barca made it very clear that the main objective was to make sure that a republican government ruled Chesney, and didn't really care how that was made to happen. Had Phantaria remained a pure republic, our reflex would likely have been to give it away to it, but because it reformed, I'd say both realms felt safer with a partial balkanization of the former republic of Terran, at least long enough to get to know the new realm a bit better. With Luria Nova rattling for war, the last thing D'Hara wanted is a realm bordering Paisly to flank us, and thus we had to deal with those uncertainties with as much haste as we could. Now that Saffalore is done for, we can make this Luria Nova's most expensive war ever with much greater confidence.
Quote from: Chénier on July 15, 2013, 01:13:16 PM
Now that Saffalore is done for, we can make this Luria Nova's most expensive war ever with much greater confidence.
Thank god. Having all this gold really makes me uncomfortable anyways.
Should we try to reenact that movie, Good Bye Lenin!, for you? Go to great lengths to keep you from realizing anything is different?
That would be hilarious but no, I need to get down to business. Alura is in Phantaria and Alekhthaeos in Arcaea, it sucks I can't have my other characters since this is a new account but oh well. I'll get there once again.
Welcome back!
Alura is in Phantaria.... Kale will definitely remember her if she is supposed to be the same Alura, yes.
Yep, entirely the same Alura.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 15, 2013, 05:26:48 AM
Unfortunate, because prior to my absence Asylon was on route to being our allies, Terran stabilizing, my marriage to Rynn to unite D'hara and Terran in the long-term, Mendicant and some Aurvandilites somewhat respected me and everyone enjoyed Alura far more than Hireshmont, which everyone and their mother were quite vocal in expressing.
This is very true.
Hireshmont was really hoping, once Alura came along, to be able to back out of politics in Terran and focus on the church. Alura's disappearance ruined that plan, and he didn't have a good successor lined up, so we went through a series of progressively worse rulers. Hireshmont didn't have the political capital to be ruler anymore.
Lovely, I single-handedly shat on Terran. The irony.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 16, 2013, 05:53:20 PM
Lovely, I single-handedly shat on Terran. The irony.
Ironically right after you left Asylon Terran relations nose dived :P
I'd expect that. Y'all had no reason to play nice with Terran once I was gone.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 16, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
I'd expect that. Y'all had no reason to play nice with Terran once I was gone.
Well, I did play nice with the Duke of Phantaria, who's name I always keep forgetting, but my char considered him a friend. And later when Kale took his seat as the new Duke, Grimrog befriended him aswell and are playing nice with him still.
Our issue was never with Terran it was with Vellos and his way of manipulating and picking and choosing our communications so that they would benefit him as he chose and relay them at his leisure to his senate.
IOW: He was behaving like pretty much every other ruler, ever, in the history of the game.
Well he did it poorly... And his entire realm paid for it. 8)
I didn't behave that way. I'm too honest for my own good and Alura was specifically tailored to be a no-!@#$, no bull!@#$ character who cut through the politicking and bull!@#$ to get to the heart of things. I think that's why she was so well-received - a breath of fresh air.
They were probably referring to Vellos.
Quote from: Indirik on July 17, 2013, 12:22:14 AM
IOW: He was behaving like pretty much every other ruler, ever, in the history of the game.
^ Was referring to that.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 17, 2013, 01:35:27 AM
I think that's why she was so well-received - a breath of fresh air.
So far she's been the only one to catch Paul in a big lie, even though the bull!@#$ he was selling ended up being true later on.
Heh. Ironic, isn't it? With Alura's disappearance all the doomsaying prophecies came to be.
Quote from: Ehndras on July 17, 2013, 01:35:27 AM
I didn't behave that way. I'm too honest for my own good and Alura was specifically tailored to be a no-!@#$, no bull!@#$ character who cut through the politicking and bull!@#$ to get to the heart of things. I think that's why she was so well-received - a breath of fresh air.
I meant Vellos.