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BattleMaster => Locals => Dwilight => Topic started by: Sypher on July 30, 2014, 10:36:23 AM

Title: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Sypher on July 30, 2014, 10:36:23 AM
in the south, Monster hordes have finally overrun Candiels after attacking nearly every day and sometimes every turn. (though it still shows up as part of Fissoa ???) No huge battles reported at Tower Fatmilak so I'm guessing that is as far as the Monster Hordes will advance down south.

QuoteTakeover   (1 day, 4 hours ago)
message to Everyone on Dwilight
(rogue) has taken control of Candiels. The region used to belong to Fissoa.


In the north, the hordes have been attacking Mimer less frequently but still fairly often. Did the Theocracies awaken something in the depths to allow monsters to attack the eastern sub-continent?

QuoteHuge Battle Fought   (2014-07-30 06:17:30)
Rumours spread of a huge battle in Mimer:(rogue) vs. AstrumEstimated strengths: 30 men vs. 820 menDefender Victory!

Huge Battle Fought   (2014-07-29 18:20:43)
Rumours spread of a huge battle in Mimer:(rogue) vs. AstrumEstimated strengths: 70 men vs. 680 menDefender Victory!

Huge Battle Fought   (2014-07-26 06:24:18)
Rumours spread of a huge battle in Mimer:(rogue) vs. AstrumEstimated strengths: 70 men vs. 560 menDefender Victory!

Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Mac Tir on July 30, 2014, 07:15:32 PM
Is there a chance to reclaim lands lost to the monsters, or are they lost like regions covered by glaciers on other continents? Would be cool to form some sort of religious order dedicated to reclaiming the west.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Chenier on July 30, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
How'd they lose the city? I didn't see any reports of a defeat.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: DeVerci on July 30, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
There's no chance of reclaiming the regions, and probably won't be for a long-long time. West-Dwilight has the constantly respawning doomstacks of monsters on steroids, so even if you managed to do a takeover and get a region you would lose it eventually due to the never-ending waves of beasts.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Chenier on July 30, 2014, 08:00:08 PM
At best, Fissoa might be able to hold Candiels, and D'Hara Paisly, but only if they dedicate serious resources to it.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Indirik on July 30, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: Mac Tir on July 30, 2014, 07:15:32 PM
Is there a chance to reclaim lands lost to the monsters, or are they lost like regions covered by glaciers on other continents? Would be cool to form some sort of religious order dedicated to reclaiming the west.
There is no game-mechanics rule that says "You can't TO these regions". It's not like the glaciers. However, the strength and number of monster hordes roaming the west makes any such endeavor extremely difficult, if not impossible.

Kind of in the same vein that it's not impossible to survive the failure of your parachute when jumping from 10,000 feet, but it's not very likely.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Dishman on July 30, 2014, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: Indirik on July 30, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Kind of in the same vein that it's not impossible to survive the failure of your parachute when jumping from 10,000 feet, but it's not very likely.

I think in both instances it depends on where you land.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Sypher on July 31, 2014, 03:05:47 AM
Quote from: Chénier on July 30, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
How'd they lose the city? I didn't see any reports of a defeat.
Maybe the battles fell below the huge battle level before they lost to the monsters? The number of defenders had been shrinking.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Cren on July 31, 2014, 07:25:55 AM
We couldn't repair the walls in Candiels due to the constant attacks and it was down to level 3. This caused a serious drain on militia as well as gold and without any mobile support Candiels fell. The monsters haven't come farther east yet and for some reason we are still getting the TO messages and monster rampage reports every turn even after losing the city.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Wolfsong on July 31, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
We lost Candiels because there was a sudden, consistent, unannounced increase in monster attacks. We went from one battle a turn with about 6,000 CS of monsters vs. 11,000 CS of militia, to 100+  monsters attacking every single turn with over 15,000 CS. It was unsustainable, but then I imagine it was probably the result of a code tweak by developers who wanted this exact outcome.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: De-Legro on July 31, 2014, 11:53:36 AM
Quote from: Wolfsong on July 31, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
We lost Candiels because there was a sudden, consistent, unannounced increase in monster attacks. We went from one battle a turn with about 6,000 CS of monsters vs. 11,000 CS of militia, to 100+  monsters attacking every single turn with over 15,000 CS. It was unsustainable, but then I imagine it was probably the result of a code tweak by developers who wanted this exact outcome.

Even if they desired such an outcome, the code does not allow for such direction of rogue forces.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Anaris on July 31, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
The code determining the behavior of the monsters in the west of Dwilight was not changed after the first few weeks of the monster invasion. From what I can tell, your position in the very corner of the continent sheltered you from the hordes' movement until they hit a critical mass.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Shizzle on August 06, 2014, 10:33:22 PM
Quote from: Anaris on July 31, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
The code determining the behavior of the monsters in the west of Dwilight was not changed after the first few weeks of the monster invasion. From what I can tell, your position in the very corner of the continent sheltered you from the hordes' movement until they hit a critical mass.

That must mean all or many regions in Western Dwi must have tens of thousands of rogue CS in them by now.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Anaris on August 06, 2014, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Shizzle on August 06, 2014, 10:33:22 PM
That must mean all or many regions in Western Dwi must have tens of thousands of rogue CS in them by now.

That's not quite true.
Title: Re: The relentless monster hordes
Post by: Dishman on August 06, 2014, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: DeVerci on July 30, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
There's no chance of reclaiming the regions, and probably won't be for a long-long time. West-Dwilight has the constantly respawning doomstacks of monsters on steroids, so even if you managed to do a takeover and get a region you would lose it eventually due to the never-ending waves of beasts.

From what I recall during Enoch's brief clairvoyance, the monsters/undead seem highest in cities and townslands. Some places (badlands or low-end rurals) were entirely empty a month or so back. Too bad I never got to try "Enoch the Rogue Mystics' Info Brokering Service".