"Pokes Delvin"
When the Island gets reset we should do a romance of the three kingdoms theme and have the realms be called Shu,WI, and Wei.
Ooh, can we do this? Island themes? Realm themes? I didn't get to join in the discussion of this before I started playing so not having done so affected my outlook a fair bit going in.
I don't actually have any ideas right now. I'll think on it.
1) I don't know RoTK beyond the name of it.
2) If the devs provide realm themes for a future iteration of the WI, they will absolutely, categorically, not be lifted wholesale from some other story, in any medium. They will be something that we create here.
Quote from: Anaris on August 11, 2014, 02:02:56 PM
1) I don't know RoTK beyond the name of it.
2) If the devs provide realm themes for a future iteration of the WI, they will absolutely, categorically, not be lifted wholesale from some other story, in any medium. They will be something that we create here.
Actually that's a historical time period. The reason it's nicknamed that is because of the book written about the time period which is called that. So you aren't lifting anything from another story, they're factual events that belong to no one.
Quote from: GundamMerc on August 16, 2014, 10:32:01 PM
Actually that's a historical time period. The reason it's nicknamed that is because of the book written about the time period which is called that. So you aren't lifting anything from another story, they're factual events that belong to no one.
Well, while I will not state quite so categorically that we won't base a realm theming off of any historical period, I certainly have no intention to do so.
BattleMaster is not this world. Nor is it Middle Earth, Westeros, Scadrial, Velgarth, Midkemia, Thedas, Kenor, or any other world from any other story, franchise, or history.
BattleMaster is BattleMaster, and it has plenty of its
own history.
Here here Anaris, we can make our own epic history, no need to copy another.
Except the new War Islands don't... most of the people who would know the history of the previous ones are gone.
Holy crap, dude, do you really have nothing better to do with your life than troll the forums of a game you don't even play anymore?
Quote from: Indirik on August 17, 2014, 05:27:47 AM
Holy crap, dude, do you really have nothing better to do with your life than troll the forums of a game you don't even play anymore?
You're assuming what I'm saying here has anything to do with what I'm saying in the Dwilight threads. It does not. It's just a fact that most of the people who played then are not the same players as now. That's the same with most games. When I talk of losing players in the Dwilight threads, I'm speaking of newer players.
How about this? After this war island ends, make the rulers of the islands decide the name of the next war island realms.
If it isn't too big of a trouble maybe Anaris can allow rulers to decide the name of the capitals as well but that will probably involve photoshop or some sort of tools that can change the name on the map so probably not.
seeing as how themes caused 99% of the trouble to date on that island, why don't we just leave it like it's always been & start up faster?
Quote from: Miskel Hemmings on August 17, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
seeing as how themes caused 99% of the trouble to date on that island, why don't we just leave it like it's always been & start up faster?
Give this man a cookie, and just be happy that you can even play on the war island again.
Sorry Sacha, but I ate all the cookies. The good news is that they were delicious.
I would have to say the problem was that how do you split one pie between 80+ people in one realm.
Quote from: Motosuwa on August 17, 2014, 10:09:21 PM
Sorry Sacha, but I ate all the cookies. The good news is that they were delicious.
I would have to say the problem was that how do you split one pie between 80+ people in one realm.
Indeed, I'd suspect this was the real issue behind the theme problems.
Forcing people to share, and to agree to not having any title whatsoever, in a game where not having a title is almost harder than having many.
Quote from: Chénier on August 18, 2014, 12:22:56 AM
Indeed, I'd suspect this was the real issue behind the theme problems.
Forcing people to share, and to agree to not having any title whatsoever, in a game where not having a title is almost harder than having many.
titles had little to do with the problems, at least in Sandalak.
Nobody should care about titles anyway. Lords are an unfortunate necessity on the war island these days.
From what I recall, little had to do with problems in Sandalak. Out of a character base of about 80, only a handful was really causing problems. Most seemed to go along with whatever was decided, and I believe that ultimately what we have now is something decent. Besides, on the war islands, doesn't the state of constant war trump the "cultural definition" of the realm? For all I care Sandalak could be a realm with a culture of cross-dressing furies and I would still play there.
Sandalak only has one rule. Listen to Kurlock mwuahah
Well I don't think Sandalak has any culture. Do other realms even have one? I am pretty sure everyone is more focused on crushing enemies.
Quote from: Lapallanch on August 18, 2014, 01:22:08 AM
Sandalak only has one rule. Listen to Kurlock mwuahah
Well I don't think Sandalak has any culture. Do other realms even have one? I am pretty sure everyone is more focused on crushing enemies.
As someone that joined Sandalak only recently, yes it has a culture. It might not be one that has mountains of books written about it, but the constant referrals to Griffon's and other mythological creatures, the granting of titles based on the number of nobles you have wounded etc actually make it one of the better realms in terms of culture that I have encountered in a long time.
Quote from: Fleugs on August 18, 2014, 12:30:57 AM
From what I recall, little had to do with problems in Sandalak. Out of a character base of about 80, only a handful was really causing problems. Most seemed to go along with whatever was decided, and I believe that ultimately what we have now is something decent. Besides, on the war islands, doesn't the state of constant war trump the "cultural definition" of the realm? For all I care Sandalak could be a realm with a culture of cross-dressing furies and I would still play there.
I wouldn't mind that. :3
Quote from: De-Legro on August 18, 2014, 01:45:10 AM
As someone that joined Sandalak only recently, yes it has a culture. It might not be one that has mountains of books written about it, but the constant referrals to Griffon's and other mythological creatures, the granting of titles based on the number of nobles you have wounded etc actually make it one of the better realms in terms of culture that I have encountered in a long time.
I agree with this.
It does add some flavor to things. You don't have to go overboard with it, and create the parallel power structures, and full-fledged religion, in order to get a flavor and feeling to things. It just makes everything seem more worthwhile.
The previous incarnations of the war islands had their own religions and flavors. There's no reason why the current and future ones can't have that, too.
Now we just need to get a bit more of that team feeling back, and get rid of the side switching and associated crap that's been going on.
Culture's nice if its organic. When you start ramming things down people's throats, you become Ikalak.
Not sure if Taselak has any sort of culture yet.
I think if you ask two taselakians that question you'll end up with five different answers. Which has more or less been our problem for the past little while.
Quote from: Mac Tir on August 21, 2014, 04:38:33 AM
I think if you ask two taselakians that question you'll end up with five different answers. Which has more or less been our problem for the past little while.
Or you ask me and you'll get six different answers, none of which will actually give you any idea of what I really think.