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Title: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 10, 2015, 01:14:01 AM
But no, seriously. There's some very, very... "lively" debates going on in Morek currently. Buuuut. That's all I say for now.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 10, 2015, 01:33:59 AM
My immediate reaction:

(http://i.imgur.com/9IbsMdA.jpg)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 10, 2015, 04:09:06 AM
I lol'd.  :D
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Ossan on May 10, 2015, 05:15:10 AM
Still better than Barca was for most of last year.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Ossan on May 10, 2015, 09:19:33 PM
Well that was short lived, no talking in the library!
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Zakilevo on May 11, 2015, 12:51:51 AM
Well since we are exiled, we can't be banned now. I knew this was coming so turned my 3k bonds into gold before provoking Evira  8)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 11, 2015, 01:01:58 AM
We could use a few capable fellows down south.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Zakilevo on May 11, 2015, 01:04:41 AM
Quote from: Constantine on May 11, 2015, 01:01:58 AM
We could use a few capable fellows down south.

South is awful. I have another character with 3k gold there...
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 11, 2015, 01:14:58 AM
Do you? I thought Dwilight was 1 character/player.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 11, 2015, 01:24:34 AM
I didn't get a chance to cash my bonds, so half my funds are stuck in bonds. That leaves me only 1500 or so in gold. :p
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 11, 2015, 06:24:00 AM
Quote from: Indirik on May 11, 2015, 01:24:34 AM
I didn't get a chance to cash my bonds, so half my funds are stuck in bonds. That leaves me only 1500 or so in gold. :p

Lucky, all I have is 280 gold. o-o

Also, party time in the capital :3
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 11, 2015, 03:29:33 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure why Eveira decided on the triple exile move, especially when one of the three already announced that they were leaving.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 11, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Indirik on May 11, 2015, 03:29:33 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure why Eveira decided on the triple exile move, especially when one of the three already announced that they were leaving.

Because it creates conflict. Morek was boring before this, now there's tension.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Sacha on May 11, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
Quote from: Indirik on May 11, 2015, 03:29:33 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure why Eveira decided on the triple exile move, especially when one of the three already announced that they were leaving.

"You can't quit, I'm firing you!"
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Zakilevo on May 11, 2015, 09:59:29 PM
VICTORY! Evira is resigning!
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 11, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Why? Weren't the loyalists winning?
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 12, 2015, 01:41:18 AM
I think the "loyalists" consisted of Eveira and Helm.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Ossan on May 12, 2015, 02:07:40 AM
Every time I see someone (usually auto) pauses, I go "Who the hell was that anyway?".
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 12, 2015, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: Lapallanch on May 11, 2015, 09:59:29 PM
VICTORY! Evira is resigning!

Not to step on any toes, but this was a long time coming ;)  You think it's boring just being a noble or a lord within the Morek Empire?  It's also boring being the ruler...

Also, it's Eviera ;)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 13, 2015, 05:09:17 PM
Wow, this went beyond all my expectations. A secession of Foxwind Duchy has been declared by Eviera, removing the eastern regions of Morek from the Empire. Developments to follow soon.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 13, 2015, 09:51:30 PM
Woohoo! Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 13, 2015, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Indirik on May 13, 2015, 09:51:30 PM
Woohoo! Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!

Did I do good, daddy? :P

But I am glad to see this is actually firing people up a bit.  Mission accomplished.
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Post by: Zakilevo on May 13, 2015, 11:39:04 PM
Now it is time to break up the empire! YAHOO!
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 13, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Great timing, Morek.
Looks like Luria is about to turn into Morek now and all the fun will relocate to the north.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Fleugs on May 14, 2015, 12:04:11 AM
The best part is this secession came as a total surprise! Go Morek Civil War!
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 14, 2015, 04:32:54 AM
"Well, damn. Now what am I going to do with the dwarf?"


Not a phrase I thought I would ever need in Battlemaster...
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Indirik on May 14, 2015, 04:34:22 AM
Quote from: Constantine on May 13, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Great timing, Morek.
Looks like Luria is about to turn into Morek now and all the fun will relocate to the north.
This was our evil plan all along.  8)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Ossan on May 14, 2015, 07:15:35 AM
Why is stuff happening during a week I am actually super busy?
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Zakilevo on May 14, 2015, 07:36:21 AM
Quote from: Ossan on May 14, 2015, 07:15:35 AM
Why is stuff happening during a week I am actually super busy?

That is life my friend  8)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 14, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
In the face of a rebellion Morek's ruler steps down and secedes.
During subsequent days old Morek nobles log in and switch allegiance to the new realm.
In a few weeks we will have the old Morek with all its cities and nobles intact but under a new name.
Somewhere inbetween those cities there will be a few townslands and rural provinces held by Lurian/Asylonian spies still named Morek.

Am I missing something or was it the most complicated and over the top way to deal with a rebellion I've ever seen? :D
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Zakilevo on May 14, 2015, 10:25:12 PM
Who cares about the new realm. We are planning to create more. The new realm is led by Eviera anyway. It will just be a boring dead realm nobody really cares about.  ;)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 14, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
Sounds good. You need to start a new thing too. New name, new flag, all that stuff.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 14, 2015, 11:48:35 PM
Quote from: Lapallanch on May 14, 2015, 10:25:12 PM
Who cares about the new realm. We are planning to create more. The new realm is led by Eviera anyway. It will just be a boring dead realm nobody really cares about.  ;)

Oh, it's going to be so fun proving you wrong :)

Never doubt the power of renewed spark, sense of purpose, and dozens of ounces of Red Bull.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 14, 2015, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: Constantine on May 14, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
In the face of a rebellion Morek's ruler steps down and secedes.
During subsequent days old Morek nobles log in and switch allegiance to the new realm.
In a few weeks we will have the old Morek with all its cities and nobles intact but under a new name.
Somewhere inbetween those cities there will be a few townslands and rural provinces held by Lurian/Asylonian spies still named Morek.

Am I missing something or was it the most complicated and over the top way to deal with a rebellion I've ever seen? :D

You're missing something :)  A lot of something.

Let's see, especially considering one of the members of said perceived rebellion is now a member of the new realm?  Oh my, the plot thickens like properly crafted beef stew!
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 15, 2015, 01:45:04 AM
Quote from: Constantine on May 14, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
In the face of a rebellion Morek's ruler steps down and secedes.
During subsequent days old Morek nobles log in and switch allegiance to the new realm.
In a few weeks we will have the old Morek with all its cities and nobles intact but under a new name.
Somewhere inbetween those cities there will be a few townslands and rural provinces held by Lurian/Asylonian spies still named Morek.

Am I missing something or was it the most complicated and over the top way to deal with a rebellion I've ever seen? :D

It wasn't a rebellion. Only a couple people were in the underground. I personally was not one of them. I was merely suspected of being in the underground.

Basically the dissenters were exiled. When the exiled nobles refused to leave, the ruler had basically lost at that point. Sge stepped down at that point and and seceded because the shock of our dissent forced her to reevaluate the situation.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 01:49:42 AM
Quote from: GundamMerc on May 15, 2015, 01:45:04 AM
It wasn't a rebellion. Only a couple people were in the underground. I personally was not one of them. I was merely suspected of being in the underground.

Basically the dissenters were exiled. When the exiled nobles refused to leave, the ruler had basically lost at that point. Sge stepped down at that point and and seceded because the shock of our dissent forced her to reevaluate the situation.

More accurate, but still not entirely correct :)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 15, 2015, 01:58:20 AM
Quote from: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 01:49:42 AM
More accurate, but still not entirely correct :)

Close enough, I'm not you  :P
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: De-Legro on May 15, 2015, 02:01:48 AM
It is certainly how it appears in D'Hara.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 02:17:58 AM
Quote from: De-Legro on May 15, 2015, 02:01:48 AM
It is certainly how it appears in D'Hara.

I think the perception is a bit more accurate to the ones physically experiencing or causing these events ;)
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 15, 2015, 02:19:49 AM
A common misconception.  :P
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 02:21:31 AM
Quote from: GundamMerc on May 15, 2015, 01:58:20 AM
Close enough, I'm not you  :P

The fact is, this was planned long ago to make things more interesting, the only change to the original plan was exiling the three "dissenters".  So really, the secession had absolutely nothing to do with the exiles.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: De-Legro on May 15, 2015, 02:41:22 AM
Quote from: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 02:17:58 AM
I think the perception is a bit more accurate to the ones physically experiencing or causing these events ;)

That is beyond stupid. The reality of any event, when known and believed by only a few, is of far less importance then the perception of the majority. In all events perceptions are obviously biased, what is important is what is the perception of those that have influence regarding the eventual outcomes. By carrying out the two events in such rapid succession all that has occurred is that Eviera simply appears as a petulant and weak ruler. The OOC reasoning and the previous time land of the events don't change the IG perception.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Constantine on May 15, 2015, 02:49:49 AM
y u butthurt, mate?
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 02:57:07 AM
Well, far be it from me for finally tossing a monkey wrench into the system of monotony that has become Dwilight in an effort to make things more interesting.  I think the majority of players would agree that this now makes Dwilight more fun than what equates to turning Microsoft Excel into a game of sorts.

As well, if I am not mistaken, somewhere it is written that one of the objectives of those in positions of power is to make the game interesting, not sit on their hind quarters collecting gold.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: De-Legro on May 15, 2015, 03:15:46 AM
Again, learn to separate IC and OOC. OOC this might be a great thing for Dwilight. That is totally different from arguing against the legitimate IC perceptions of the actions which are separate to OOC rationales.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: Varwulf on May 15, 2015, 03:35:09 AM
Quote from: De-Legro on May 15, 2015, 03:15:46 AM
Again, learn to separate IC and OOC. OOC this might be a great thing for Dwilight. That is totally different from arguing against the legitimate IC perceptions of the actions which are separate to OOC rationales.

The IC was obviously missed by you.  Eviera stated to SA that SA has become a toxic part of Dwilight and Morek, creating and promoting apathy and turning away potential new members of the realm.

You can try to quantify it anyway you like, but you are literally assuming the worst with a fractional sum of the information.  It is frustrating.
Title: Re: Talking, in Morek? The Apocalypse is nigh!
Post by: GundamMerc on May 15, 2015, 07:02:48 AM
Besides the fact that this "IC trumps OOC" crap is what lead to the current situation in the first place. It's just a convenient cop-out thrown around by players who don't want to take the effort of making something interesting happen.