On Dwilight I have been fighting monsters for about a year now. Average about once a week. I have been leading infantry, but my sword fighting never goes up. I think it is at like 10% or 15%. Do monsters(and undead?) not give experience for traits like sword fighting, or am i extremely unlucky?
Sword skill does not go up very much from battles, unfortunately. I had a Hero who fought around once a week or more for two, three years with all infantry and he never got above 25%.
O okay thanks.
Does leadership go up easier then? I have a character that got over 50% leadership just from battles.
Leadership does in my experience, yes.
Besides, unless your noble is a hero, he won't actually participate in battle - I believe.
Quote from: Shizzle on June 22, 2011, 09:16:32 AM
Besides, unless your noble is a hero, he won't actually participate in battle - I believe.
Anyone leading a infantry unit can get an increase in sword fighting. I have used that fact to try and keep my infils sword fighting levels stable when I'm not actively sulking in the shadows.
Quote from: De-Legro on June 22, 2011, 02:39:12 PM
Anyone leading a infantry unit can get an increase in sword fighting. I have used that fact to try and keep my infils sword fighting levels stable when I'm not actively sulking in the shadows.
Why is that? Does a nobles swordfighting skill increase simply by looking at his men fight?:P
Nobles also get wounded and seriously wounded, so they actively fight.
Quote from: Telrunya on June 22, 2011, 08:15:44 PM
Nobles also get wounded and seriously wounded, so they actively fight.
Heroes fight. Non-heroes get fought.
Quote from: vonGenf on June 22, 2011, 08:25:46 PM
Heroes fight. Non-heroes get fought.
Does swordskill decrease the chance of getting wounded?
A nobleman doesn't fight. He stands in the back row and "supervises". Occasionally a plucky enemy infantryman makes it to him, and gets put down by nobleman's superior swordsmanship skills. (Even 5% is pretty good odds against a peasant.) Then the nobleman complains that he got peasant blood on his plate-mail.
!@#$ infantryman, it's those gods-be-damned archers that do the most damage to your nobles. I swear, my characters have more arrow-scars than everything else combined.
I always figured the nobles were giving orders and propping up the troops' spirits, and using themselves as a strategic reserve, especially to fight their opposing numbers.
I more see it like nobles of both parties gather on a hilltop for tea, and look at their men fighting each other ;)
Quote from: Bedwyr on June 23, 2011, 11:41:16 AM
!@#$ infantryman, it's those gods-be-damned archers that do the most damage to your nobles. I swear, my characters have more arrow-scars than everything else combined.
I've always thought there seems to be a higher chance of being wounded if your unit is wiped out by arrow fire rather than melee. Is that actually the case?
Quote from: Velax on June 23, 2011, 02:03:42 PM
I've always thought there seems to be a higher chance of being wounded if your unit is wiped out by arrow fire rather than melee. Is that actually the case?
Anecdotally, I'd say yes. I've seen more Heroes killed by archers, and my characters have gotten wounded more by archers than by melee. But, that may just be my perception filter at work.
Isn't that because archers focus on a single unit, whereas infantry hits are move divided over the opposing force?
Quote from: GoldPanda on June 23, 2011, 11:37:51 AM
A nobleman doesn't fight. He stands in the back row and "supervises". Occasionally a plucky enemy infantryman makes it to him, and gets put down by nobleman's superior swordsmanship skills. (Even 5% is pretty good odds against a peasant.) Then the nobleman complains that he got peasant blood on his plate-mail.
You allow peasants to take the battlefield? You have dishonoured the fallen. I ensure that only minor nobility make up my units, and will simply not engage peasants upon the field of honour.
Quote from: De-Legro on June 24, 2011, 12:32:43 AM
You allow peasants to take the battlefield? You have dishonoured the fallen. I ensure that only minor nobility make up my units, and will simply not engage peasants upon the field of honour.
You've never once commanded archers?
Quote from: egamma on June 24, 2011, 09:53:24 AM
You've never once commanded archers?
Archers? Yuck. The dishonorable scoundrels don't even close with the enemy so you can look him in the eye while you run him through. They should all be hanged.
Quote from: Bedwyr on June 23, 2011, 02:11:21 PM
Anecdotally, I'd say yes. I've seen more Heroes killed by archers, and my characters have gotten wounded more by archers than by melee. But, that may just be my perception filter at work.
From my experiences, archers wound a lot more often. I believe I've seen more deaths to melee troops than to archers, though.
I believe that overkill leads to higher chances of wounds. In that case, usually archers are less capable of overkill. It might just be me, but at least that's how it seemed in the battles where I saw heroes die.