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BattleMaster => Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Noone you know on June 05, 2016, 01:00:03 AM

Title: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Noone you know on June 05, 2016, 01:00:03 AM
regardless of how the topic of Aging goes, thought this was a good idea for a scroll.

Most of them don't seem that powerful, so maybe only removing 2-4 years is appropriate.

(A scroll that removes X years of age from user,  in case it's not clear what I'm talking about)
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Wimpie on June 05, 2016, 11:18:23 AM
Or kind of like the necklace of the woman in red (GoT reference)? :D It keeps you young as long as you manage to hold onto it.

But that would maybe be more of an idea for a unique item.

I like the idea of removing several years of age due to a scroll being used.. and in some rare chance it actually adds to your age :D
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Gabanus family on July 08, 2016, 05:08:38 PM
Or kind of like the necklace of the woman in red (GoT reference)? :D It keeps you young as long as you manage to hold onto it.

But that would maybe be more of an idea for a unique item.

I like the idea of removing several years of age due to a scroll being used.. and in some rare chance it actually adds to your age :D

I've been wondering about this one myself. Does the scroll actually do anything? I used it a while ago on Garas' wife Catherine (who doesn't want a younger wife hehe) but don't think anything happened at all. I got the casting message etc, but he even kept the scroll for later use.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Vita` on July 08, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
If you might notice the board's name: 'Feature Requests' and the original poster suggesting this as one such request.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Gabanus family on July 09, 2016, 09:04:38 AM
If you might notice the board's name: 'Feature Requests' and the original poster suggesting this as one such request.

That I noticed, but my question was more related to: "But what do the scrolls do now then, or just nothing?"
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Vita` on July 09, 2016, 09:11:14 AM
Nothing because a Scroll of Eternal Youth does not exist, because it is only a suggested feature request by Noone you know. He did suggest that the Scroll of Eternal Youth would remove years from a character's age, so that should answer what it would do, if it did exist.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Wimpie on July 09, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
Now I am wondering how Gabanus managed to use it if it doesn't exist  ;D

Either way, I think it's a fun idea for a new scroll, if noone is against, lets take it up on the bugtracker list?
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: JDodger on July 09, 2016, 07:31:17 PM
i think he might be referring to the glow of health scroll
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: JeVondair on August 01, 2016, 02:35:04 AM
Machiavel Chernier RP'd using one after the Dragon Cornation in D'Hara so he could get an heir on Dragon Princess Selena Ironsides. I think Yeux Serpantis RP'd something similar when he RPd a marriage with Mayra Tandaros in Melhed. I assumed the magic existed for it bc why not?
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Chamberlain on August 01, 2016, 05:32:48 AM
No Garas had and used that scroll.

also managed to get one made on Beluaterra by my advy and sold it to one of the elder statesmen of Nothoi.

Definitely exists just not entirely sure if the casting has any effect.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Gabanus family on August 01, 2016, 10:11:16 AM
Now I am wondering how Gabanus managed to use it if it doesn't exist  ;D

Either way, I think it's a fun idea for a new scroll, if noone is against, lets take it up on the bugtracker list?

Well simple, Garas is special so he apparently traveled to the future to get one  8) And he was so cool that when he used it on Catherine, he actually kept it?

Name   Details   Actions
Pain and Suffering   This fairly easy but evil ritual will cause another character pain and suffering, disabling him for a couple hours.
Fountain of Youth   This scroll is said to make old men feel young again. It will give new energy to its target and remove fatigue.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Wimpie on August 01, 2016, 10:36:42 AM
Well simple, Garas is special so he apparently traveled to the future to get one  8) And he was so cool that when he used it on Catherine, he actually kept it?

Name   Details   Actions
Pain and Suffering   This fairly easy but evil ritual will cause another character pain and suffering, disabling him for a couple hours.
Fountain of Youth   This scroll is said to make old men feel young again. It will give new energy to its target and remove fatigue.

Yeah I can see in the code that it exists. Doesn't do what I expected it to do, though.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: jaune on August 01, 2016, 12:18:06 PM
I dont know, but i think it clearly says it will remove fatigue? So i guess its for advies to remove fatigue?
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Gabanus family on August 01, 2016, 03:17:35 PM
Yeah I can see in the code that it exists. Doesn't do what I expected it to do, though.

Then what does it do? Eh, I might use it for RP purposes at this point...
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Vita` on August 01, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
Hold your horses, folks! Sometimes it helps to read slowly rather than skim and jump to conclusions.

The Scroll of Eternal Youth does not exist and this very thread was started as a feature request for it *to* exist (for the purpose of reducing character age by a couple years). If it already existed, why would someone ask for it to be created?

The Scroll of Eternal Youth does not exist. The Scroll of Fountain of Youth, and the Scroll of Glow of Health, do exist.

The Scroll of Fountain of Youth reduces advy fatigue (I think in half, by memory?) and increases the target's number of hours by two.
The Scroll of Glow of Health heals soldiers in a unit.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Wimpie on August 02, 2016, 01:00:21 PM
Hold your horses, folks! Sometimes it helps to read slowly rather than skim and jump to conclusions.

The Scroll of Eternal Youth does not exist and this very thread was started as a feature request for it *to* exist (for the purpose of reducing character age by a couple years). If it already existed, why would someone ask for it to be created?

The Scroll of Eternal Youth does not exist. The Scroll of Fountain of Youth, and the Scroll of Glow of Health, do exist.

The Scroll of Fountain of Youth reduces advy fatigue (I think in half, by memory?) and increases the target's number of hours by two.
The Scroll of Glow of Health heals soldiers in a unit.

Yeah what he said. Fountain of Youth exists, nothing else.

Now that aging hour restrictions are gone, not sure there's any use for a different scroll regarding losing some years of your age (only for RP purposes i guess).
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: jaune on August 02, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
Yeah what he said. Fountain of Youth exists, nothing else.

Now that aging hour restrictions are gone, not sure there's any use for a different scroll regarding losing some years of your age (only for RP purposes i guess).

Aging hour restrictions gone? KK can ride like a wind? Hold courts and move? Scout and move! Hooray!
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Gabanus family on August 02, 2016, 02:35:55 PM
Yeah what he said. Fountain of Youth exists, nothing else.

Now that aging hour restrictions are gone, not sure there's any use for a different scroll regarding losing some years of your age (only for RP purposes i guess).

For RP purposes they would be amazing tbh and it would be cool if the Fountain of Youth also reduces some years if a noble uses it or something, or helps them heal or something?

But being able to trim down 20 years with a scroll, that would still be awesome. Maybe not for game mechanic reasons, but definately for RP reasons.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: JeVondair on August 04, 2016, 05:36:25 PM
Sooo I just found a Fountain of Youth Scroll. Can anyone tell me the mechanics? Like will it actually shave 20 years of my character?
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: JeVondair on August 04, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
nvm  ::)
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: Vita` on August 04, 2016, 05:38:08 PM
...

The Scroll of Fountain of Youth reduces advy fatigue (I think in half, by memory?) and increases the target's number of hours by two.
The Scroll of Glow of Health heals soldiers in a unit.
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: JeVondair on August 04, 2016, 05:39:35 PM
Yeah what he said. Fountain of Youth exists, nothing else.

Now that aging hour restrictions are gone, not sure there's any use for a different scroll regarding losing some years of your age (only for RP purposes i guess).

So I guess my next amazing question is, with the ageing restrictions gone, will this item be updated with a years-removal mechanic?
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: JDodger on August 06, 2016, 07:14:01 AM
having hit the 7 hour mark briefly i can say i am so glad this was removed, and my heart goes out to those who ever had to deal with 5.

i am curious as to what is going to help prevent a bunch of 200 year old characters running around and especially same characters holding duchies regions rulerships etc for rl years on end
Title: Re: Scroll of Eternal Youth
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on August 06, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
having hit the 7 hour mark briefly i can say i am so glad this was removed, and my heart goes out to those who ever had to deal with 5.

i am curious as to what is going to help prevent a bunch of 200 year old characters running around and especially same characters holding duchies regions rulerships etc for rl years on end

This nearly happens already in some areas, time isn't that limiting a factor in region control or council positions. In fact older characters tend to be elected/selected for these positions, likely due to familiarity. Who are you going to pick, a guy who you're readily familiar with and expect to do a good job, or a relative newcomer?