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Title: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Zakilevo on July 19, 2016, 01:55:45 AM
So Swordfell has 10 more nobles yet they are not winning. What is going on? I heard Swordfell's general is one of the worst. Is that true?
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on July 19, 2016, 02:08:20 AM
Well, a lot of infighting between Crixus (a duke) and pretty much everyone else. He's power hungry and wants everything for himself while 75% of the realm does not.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on July 19, 2016, 02:09:26 AM
And lots of monsters.

Pretty much what's happening is a new General got elected and Crixus got kicked out, but he's still the Marshal of the army so he's countermanding every single order the General gives and the army sponsor thinks it's funny and doesn't change him.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: JDodger on July 19, 2016, 05:26:20 AM
crixus vs castillo, the battle of bad ideas.

there was already a thread for this war, though it hasnt been posted in in a while.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on July 19, 2016, 04:39:43 PM
Ayup. Both are terrible lol.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Wimpie on July 19, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
Westfold has me, so obviously we're on the winning side!  :P
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: JDodger on July 19, 2016, 08:56:43 PM
hahaha wimpie always picks the winners
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 19, 2016, 10:49:40 PM
Oh geez, how about that Nezar guy? He's the worst.  ::)
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: JDodger on July 19, 2016, 10:50:25 PM
i dunno, is he?
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 19, 2016, 11:30:04 PM
i dunno, is he?

He is the worst. Literal antagonist of the world. He decided to go on a murdering spree and killed some innocent roaming monsters.

Such a sick and twisted thing he's done... The monsters only wanted a snack.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Wimpie on July 20, 2016, 08:12:39 AM
hahaha wimpie always picks the winners

I'd say the one thing is a consequence of the other thing, won't you say?
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 22, 2016, 03:07:43 AM
Swordfell has really been active as of late. Can probably see it when we fight our battles, how everything is confused.

I wonder what happens in Westfold while I read 60 letters from not checking in for a few hours.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on July 22, 2016, 03:08:37 AM
Join the new church victor!
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 22, 2016, 03:48:36 AM
Join the new church victor!

I'm already a member of ESA. I can't dedicate my life to stopping destruction because Nezar believes that there is still hope for the true blood stars
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on July 22, 2016, 04:01:14 AM
What if some other ESA members start to join? Then will he?
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: GundamMerc on July 22, 2016, 04:09:58 AM
I'm already a member of ESA. I can't dedicate my life to stopping destruction because Nezar believes that there is still hope for the true blood stars

What's stopping you from making him go into despair?
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 22, 2016, 04:13:05 AM
What's stopping you from making him go into despair?

The fact that everything is going exactly as planned. There is no reason to dispair.

You'll see in a few days
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on July 22, 2016, 04:33:06 AM
Lol, alright.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Vita` on July 22, 2016, 05:32:54 AM
What's stopping you from making him go into despair?
Why do people with the same goal have to bicker amongst themselves? You're just shuffling chairs with the same people, not attracting new people to the ideas.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 22, 2016, 06:16:42 AM
Why do people with the same goal have to bicker amongst themselves? You're just shuffling chairs with the same people, not attracting new people to the ideas.

People cannot agree on which path is the best, so everyone tries to put there's forward as much as possible. Eventually there becomes a clear division and bickering begins.

Cohesion only lies with strong leadership, however that is not present. You've left your followers to think for themselves, and very quickly, they found they all don't think alike.

This can usually mean new ideas, but this specific idea is for aggression, and aggression does not need new ideas because aggression is its own being.

A strong leadership keeps everyone pacified to ensure that they all rally around a cause. They all agree with YOU but not so much with each other, that is the key point to explaining the answer that you seek.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: GundamMerc on July 22, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
People cannot agree on which path is the best, so everyone tries to put there's forward as much as possible. Eventually there becomes a clear division and bickering begins.

Cohesion only lies with strong leadership, however that is not present. You've left your followers to think for themselves, and very quickly, they found they all don't think alike.

This can usually mean new ideas, but this specific idea is for aggression, and aggression does not need new ideas because aggression is its own being.

A strong leadership keeps everyone pacified to ensure that they all rally around a cause. They all agree with YOU but not so much with each other, that is the key point to explaining the answer that you seek.

This. Basically think about what happened to Alexander the Great's generals when he died. While he was alive, his leadership kept them in line. Without him, though, they all either tried to be the new leader or couldn't agree on what to do with Alexander's new Empire, and so it broke apart.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Vita` on July 22, 2016, 03:41:32 PM
It was the same concern (people who agree working against each other to protect the interests of those who don't agree) when I was still playing, just different details.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on July 22, 2016, 08:55:44 PM
It was the same concern (people who agree working against each other to protect the interests of those who don't agree) when I was still playing, just different details.

That is because you preferred to stay back most of the time instead of guide your followers. That may seem good and all if you're trying to create chaos, but not so great for leading a cause.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: byrdcr9 on August 05, 2016, 02:53:50 AM
Bump, 'cause lookit who's winning now....

Also, Zuma Coalition going crazy?

Also, What's going on in Dwilight? Anything interesting happening non-SA/ESA related?
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on August 05, 2016, 05:43:23 AM
Bump, 'cause lookit who's winning now....

Also, Zuma Coalition going crazy?

Also, What's going on in Dwilight? Anything interesting happening non-SA/ESA related?

I have no idea what could've happened O:

They fell for a couple traps lately, so that could give the appearance of winning.

I don't know anything about Zuma or ESA vs SA quarrels.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Shulee on August 05, 2016, 03:31:00 PM
They fell for a couple traps lately, so that could give the appearance of winning.

The Tamirak to Eltorak trap was a thing of beauty. A good part of my enjoyment comes from the trials & tribulations of just such a thing so I appreciate the effort Swordfell is making as an opponent. So much better from my perspective than playing whack-a-mole with monsters & undead.

Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: JDodger on August 05, 2016, 08:17:59 PM
there was no trap for us to fall into, we had scout reports indicating exactly what was waiting in elntorak. we had a couple major screwups in the previous couple weeks, that wasn't one of them.

the question for you then becomes "why would dodger intentionally march his army into a battle they couldn't win?"

the sooner you can figure out that and similar questions, the sooner you might start actually winning this war. you guys still haven't recovered an entire westfold plus extra worth of regions. it's a stalemate right now, which is kind of ridiculous given the continued gap between the apparent capabilities of the two realms.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: JDodger on August 05, 2016, 08:19:13 PM
although like Shulee i will give you guys credit for being a good opponent in terms of providing challenging battles.
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Bronnen on August 05, 2016, 08:43:11 PM
Join Ut Trutina! We are spreading and our numbers are growing!
Title: Re: Swordfell vs Westfold
Post by: Victor C on August 06, 2016, 01:55:48 AM
the question for you then becomes "why would dodger intentionally march his army into a battle they couldn't win?"
What that did was help me prove a duke wrong and gain even more power. I'm remembering the days when you were saying "You all just lack the fundamentals", and whatnot.  8) Swordfell is the best Fell

(Just teasing, it's a real interesting war going on indeed)

The Tamirak to Eltorak trap was a thing of beauty. A good part of my enjoyment comes from the trials & tribulations of just such a thing so I appreciate the effort Swordfell is making as an opponent. So much better from my perspective than playing whack-a-mole with monsters & undead.

Yah, I'm really trying to do more with what we have. The previous General just screamed and blamed everyone for not moving. I feel like we're doing a lot better with the "We are the Fellish, strong and proud" thing I've been boasting to everyone in realm.

Definitely not a boring place to be in Swordfell at this moment.

Course, we have a good enemy to keep us busy too!  ;D I'm sure you guys may return the favor sooner rather than later.