If someone accidentally sends a message to the wrong people and then OOc tells them to disregard it. Are we allowed to use it IC?
The long-standing ruling by Tom is:
If the player knows something, the character is allowed to know it.
No one will be punished for using information in-character that they have no reasonable in-character means of having obtained.
That doesn't mean that it's right to do so, just that it's legal. The ethics, I'd say you have to judge more situationally.
That doesn't seem right to me. Going by that people can use everything on IRC in character
Quote from: Bronnen on November 04, 2016, 12:36:42 PM
That doesn't seem right to me. Going by that people can use everything on IRC in character
Did I not just say it doesn't mean it's right, just that it's legal? :P
The rationale is that no one can police thought, and that disallowing OOC sources would open a floodgate. If you send something by accident to someone, and tell him to disregard it, and he then uses it... who is the say that your intended target didn't share it with him anyways? Are you going to report any such suspicion? The titans would then be forced to investigate every case? What if someone else used your message that you never sent it to? Was it from the legitimate target or the accidental recipient? Can that person be held accountable for information acquired accidently by a third party with no implication from himself? Besides, if a murderer mails the murder weapon to the police by accident, would the court really make the evidence inadmissible because it was only sent to them by error?
The burden lies upon the person that made the mistake. You can't OOC order other players to act a certain way, including ignoring the IC message you sent them.
I suppose. I dunno, I just think it's wrong to use OOC info as IC stuff.
Quote from: Bronnen on November 04, 2016, 01:58:33 PM
I suppose. I dunno, I just think it's wrong to use OOC info as IC stuff.
Y'know, I
feel like I'm typing things, but maybe it's just a delusion...?
But Anaris, if I don't keep you on your toes, how will you stay in shape?
Quote from: Bronnen on November 04, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
But Anaris, if I don't keep you on your toes, how will you stay in shape?
My toes are in fine shape!
I dunno man. I've heard some things.....
People using ooc in game. Nothing new :o
With a bit of imagination, anyone can roleplay a situation where a character can gain information to use in-game, whereupon the information came from an OOC source.
You have to accept that OOC information gets used within game, even by those who desperately try their best to keep things separate, things slip by.
As Anaris said, it doesn't mean it's morally right.
It's just one of those things that i guess we all have to accept happens from time to time, as it's impossible to eliminate.
I've been known to "accidentally" send messages to message groups that enemies can see. Sometimes it's the truth, sometimes it's not. Is the army moving, or is it a misdirection? All in an effort to build F.U.D. (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt).
Quote from: steelabjur@aol.com on November 15, 2016, 07:59:39 AM
I've been known to "accidentally" send messages to message groups that enemies can see. Sometimes it's the truth, sometimes it's not. Is the army moving, or is it a misdirection? All in an effort to build F.U.D. (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt).
Sounds like chaos gaming to me.
Quote from: steelabjur@aol.com on November 15, 2016, 07:59:39 AM
I've been known to "accidentally" send messages to message groups that enemies can see. Sometimes it's the truth, sometimes it's not. Is the army moving, or is it a misdirection? All in an effort to build F.U.D. (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt).
If you then cover it up with an ooc message, though, that's equally immoral.
If you ask me there are 2 different things at hand here.
1) Using ooc info from wherever, forum, irc or so I always avoid as I think it's extremely immoral.
2) Using info because someone sent it to you by accident in game I consider fair play. As if nobles never send messages to the wrong families etc in the real world? Of course messages sometimes went wrong, or got mixed up. Trying to cover it ooc is weak in my opinion, mistake is mistake and you made it IC, so deal with it IC.
Quote from: Chenier on November 16, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
If you then cover it up with an ooc message, though, that's equally immoral.
Never do. Rarely send OOC messages period.
Quote from: Gabanus family on November 16, 2016, 04:27:07 PM
If you ask me there are 2 different things at hand here.
1) Using ooc info from wherever, forum, irc or so I always avoid as I think it's extremely immoral.
2) Using info because someone sent it to you by accident in game I consider fair play. As if nobles never send messages to the wrong families etc in the real world? Of course messages sometimes went wrong, or got mixed up. Trying to cover it ooc is weak in my opinion, mistake is mistake and you made it IC, so deal with it IC.
I completely agree with this. 2) is totally fair game. We all make mistake; when we make them IC, we should deal with them IC. And for 1) that have never sat well with me. It goes against the spirit of the game.