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BattleMaster => Locals => East Island => Topic started by: loren on March 01, 2011, 08:35:56 PM
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Anyone have a particularly favorite war story from this latest round of conflict? Poor Gregor's been marching all over the place with no fights so far. Giselle managed to get pissy and stormed off the field after starting to make a name for herself, so I'm a bit dry for combat in the EC at the moment.
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Oh well I can speak about Sirion's war forever. But everyone would be bored to death :P
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The Sirion's war forever is coming to an end!!!!!!!!
And from that war I think that many war stories came up.
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This was one of my best combined RPs with some Sirion players. ;D
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Sirion_%28Realm%29/Death_of_Brom_Vats (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Sirion_%28Realm%29/Death_of_Brom_Vats)
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This was one of my best combined RPs with some Sirion players. ;D
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Sirion_%28Realm%29/Death_of_Brom_Vats (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Sirion_%28Realm%29/Death_of_Brom_Vats)
Yeah, that was a good send off!
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I was saved from execution by the judge accidentally lifting my ban.
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While not exactly a war story, I once tried to sell food to Viseu or somewhere but the normal market was closed. So Kylen went to the black market and got caught. Point for the vapid albino elf girl I guess?
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I was saved from execution by the judge accidentally lifting my ban.
Haha, nice one... I don't even think lift ban and execute are on the same page. Do you mean you somehow got them to lift it?
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While not exactly a war story, I once tried to sell food to Viseu or somewhere but the normal market was closed. So Kylen went to the black market and got caught. Point for the vapid albino elf girl I guess?
Haha... I always wondered why Kylen used the Black Market. It's tough without your trader in Sirion!
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People like Sacha were making fun of her cookies! :'( It's kinda predictable behavior from Sacha though, but still, those cookies are for friendship and happiness!
But right now I don't exactly have room for her. Oh well. If Fontan gets down to its last region I'll consider maybe resting Ramuh I guess. Maybe steal cookies from Fontan. 8)
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Destroying Itorunt, Reducing Perdan to one city, and now a huge war that we will also win. ::)
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Once Sirion clears pests in the north, Ibladesh will burn. :) DoA is almost dead so Ibladesh will be fighting 2v1 soon.
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Destroying Itorunt, Reducing Perdan to one city, and now a huge war that we will also win. ::)
Isn't that what you said when it started too? ;) Meanwhile DoA is getting kicked around and Ibby isn't exactly making a hell of a lot of progress, considering the initial advantages they held over Caligus.
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Isn't that what you said when it started too? ;) Meanwhile DoA is getting kicked around and Ibby isn't exactly making a hell of a lot of progress, considering the initial advantages they held over Caligus.
Maybe so, but appearances can be deceiving. DoA may look pretty well deprived right now but it would only take a few days of Perdan's absence for them to pop back up. Being a theocracy, DoA and Ibladesh are able to stay of their feet longer than other realms would have. Thought Perdan's infiltrators are mad annoying. Makes for a great war in a variety of aspects! :o
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Fontan will soon be reduced to a single duchy. Krimml is burning right now. Funny thing is allies of Fontan are just watching lol
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Fontan will soon be reduced to a single duchy. Krimml is burning right now. Funny thing is allies of Fontan are just watching lol
It is really too bad, it will only be the downfall of them (Fontan's allies) as well. We thought about helping fund Fontan's war efforts but can't really do it with our current situation.
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Fontan felt to be in steady decay since 2009. Then again, I suppose its decline possibly started before that in 2008 with the CoF business. Or maybe even before that, but at some point in mid-2008 Fontan was actually winning and pushing into Sirion's territory. I remember Avamar was Fontan's and SoA was making progress in the north, and OR was gone.
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It is inevitable I think. Realms will rise and fall like in the real world. I bet Ibladesh and Sirion will fall one day as well. That is what is so fun about this game. Things change constantly. Not much in Atamara though.. CE is still insane.
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Fontan felt to be in steady decay since 2009. Then again, I suppose its decline possibly started before that in 2008 with the CoF business. Or maybe even before that, but at some point in mid-2008 Fontan was actually winning and pushing into Sirion's territory. I remember Avamar was Fontan's and SoA was making progress in the north, and OR was gone.
I have to agree, I think it was when I spun off CoF (more the politics of it than the actual secession). It saw the formation of Westmoor, a lot of the better military minds went to SoA which sort of split the Fontanese war machine. I don't think it ever recovered. The Lions were really a crack team of players, backed by some powerful lords.
We'll see where things go from here =)
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How did the Lions disappear?
I only heard stories about how they were all trained to the max and well organized.
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The latest war story: "the death of the Sultan"
We were sitting in Krimml, waiting. Sirion was rampaging in Braga, next Greatbridge. It fainted a movement to Oligarch? Why? They would have won in the city and could looted it for a full day. Nevertheless, the urge to return home and cash bonds increased, but Sirion was still in Greatbridge. Our scouts reported that Sirion was moving out to Braga. So we had a chance to hit some stranglers and prevent that Sirion could attack Krimml with what forces it had left, but there was always the possibility that they would remain where they are. The Padisah Akinci VII, Sultan Leandros' personal guard, together with his Asanian comrades marched with valour towards Greatbridge. And with his sword held high, he faced the Sirionite army. The odds, 3 to 1, but Leandros was without fear. He aimed his sword towards his elven foes, and yelled: "Attack! For the glory of the Sultanate!" And a line of infantry charged towards Sirion. The impact was so great and pierced through many Sirionite soldiers, and wounded the noble Olaf, who fell victim to the charge of the Padisah Akinci. But the numbers of Sirion were great, far greater than the impact of our charge. And already in the first round, Leandros was wounded by the Beauty in Rage, lead by Salma. But retreat was not an option. He continued to fight courageously. Surviving the initial impact of Sirion's cavalry. But it was a lost battle. And in the third round, the overwhelming force of Sirion became his death.
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It says I am dying, and I can not read all my letters. According to my healers, I still have a small chance to survive, but I can also already bury my character. Weird ???
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Well I did not expect infantry units to kill the sultan of SoA. Usually cavalries kill nobles but well he just got unlucky I guess lol.
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The latest war story: "the death of the Sultan"
We were sitting in Krimml, waiting. Sirion was rampaging in Braga, next Greatbridge. It fainted a movement to Oligarch? Why? They would have won in the city and could looted it for a full day. Nevertheless, the urge to return home and cash bonds increased, but Sirion was still in Greatbridge. Our scouts reported that Sirion was moving out to Braga. So we had a chance to hit some stranglers and prevent that Sirion could attack Krimml with what forces it had left, but there was always the possibility that they would remain where they are. The Padisah Akinci VII, Sultan Leandros' personal guard, together with his Asanian comrades marched with valour towards Greatbridge. And with his sword held high, he faced the Sirionite army. The odds, 3 to 1, but Leandros was without fear. He aimed his sword towards his elven foes, and yelled: "Attack! For the glory of the Sultanate!" And a line of infantry charged towards Sirion. The impact was so great and pierced through many Sirionite soldiers, and wounded the noble Olaf, who fell victim to the charge of the Padisah Akinci. But the numbers of Sirion were great, far greater than the impact of our charge. And already in the first round, Leandros was wounded by the Beauty in Rage, lead by Salma. But retreat was not an option. He continued to fight courageously. Surviving the initial impact of Sirion's cavalry. But it was a lost battle. And in the third round, the overwhelming force of Sirion became his death.
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It says I am dying, and I can not read all my letters. According to my healers, I still have a small chance to survive, but I can also already bury my character. Weird ???
I was wondering what happened there. Thought there has been some misunderstanding with Westmoor at first, cause it was the closest thing to a suicide I've ever seen.
Poor leandros, he escaped death once was not lucky enough to escape it again :(
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To quote "It is magnificent, but it is not war; it is madness."
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I was wondering what happened there. Thought there has been some misunderstanding with Westmoor at first, cause it was the closest thing to a suicide I've ever seen.
Poor leandros, he escaped death once was not lucky enough to escape it again :(
Leandros rather died against Meristenzio. But yes, it was a huge risk we took, and it became fatal. Hoped more of you moved to Braga.
But had to move out, no gold left for payments. And soon some of us were going to loose their units. Rather charged them into your ranks than have them abandoned. It is a shame it became my death. The second hero I lost against Sirion.
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Leandros rather died against Meristenzio. But yes, it was a huge risk we took, and it became fatal. Hoped more of you moved to Braga.
But had to move out, no gold left for payments. And soon some of us were going to loose their units. Rather charged them into your ranks than have them abandoned. It is a shame it became my death. The second hero I lost against Sirion.
This time you have the name of the killer though, so you can at least avoid going around challenging random people to death with the eventual next in the line :P
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What were the numbers on either side? My messages said Sirion were the outnumbered ones.
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What were the numbers on either side? My messages said Sirion were the outnumbered ones.
Total:
10 attackers (259 Inf, 119 Arch, 19 Cav, 758 other)
28 defenders (584 Inf, 159 Arch, 147 Cav, 55 SF)
Total combat strengths: 5798 vs. 13397
Peasants built up attackers numbers.
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Ah, fair enough.
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This time you have the name of the killer though, so you can at least avoid going around challenging random people to death with the eventual next in the line :P
Enough revenge.. But last time, when Randolf was killed, I analysed the battle report. Lucky for me, he died in the last round or so. And Meristenzio was among a few others still on the battlefield. So I had a few names, of which one was a woman. The great hero Randolf could not have been killed by a woman, so that left me with like 3 male suspects.
But enough heroes have died in the Sultanate. I have been Duke of both cities and served every position (besides Banker). It is time to move on. A shame though, that the reign of Galvez was so short. :'( And I think I will start my next char in DoA, they could use some extra hand I believe.
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Yes, and Perdan is always looking for some more targets :)
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Haha.. yes, I am going to DoA to become targeted by Perdan. Ibby is going to support DoA more from now on. And besides, I already have a Marquess/priest in Ibladesh, and a second char in the same realm always causes you to neglect one of them.
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How did the Lions disappear?
I only heard stories about how they were all trained to the max and well organized.
A lot of them went to SoA. Sullivan is still in Fontan last I checked. He led them. It's actually a really good model for realms to follow if they can swing it. 10-12 active players who recruit 60 man units of the best in class. Spend a few days training them up to build cohesion, high numbers of healers and banners. Let the main army do holding maneuvers till you arrive to smash the enemy.
It'd be interesting to see how it would stack up with the recent changes in combat.
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That is where Sirion got the idea of the Red Dragons from. Don't know about the Silver Legion but yeah people in the RD get to recruit whatever they want. Less gold for me :(
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A lot of them went to SoA. Sullivan is still in Fontan last I checked. He led them. It's actually a really good model for realms to follow if they can swing it. 10-12 active players who recruit 60 man units of the best in class. Spend a few days training them up to build cohesion, high numbers of healers and banners. Let the main army do holding maneuvers till you arrive to smash the enemy.
Didn't a lot of them disappear eventually by pausing / deleting? It's been a while back though.
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Yes, the old guard of the Sultanate is no more. With Suliman and me gone, the only one left is the Duchess of Oroya, Lady Vanya.
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I think a good number of Lions were eventually found to be multies and locked. Sulliven among them. They were still amazing, but it's not so incredible if you think about it under this point of view ;)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I am not entirely sure of that.
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Concerning the Lions, I am certain Erdogan (player of Korkut) knows more about that. I'll ask him if I see him again on msn or something. He has long been the marshal of teh Lions. But I do no think they were multi's though, much of them came from or knew each other of the war islands. I can still remember their siege on Oroya. With just a little more combat strength they defeated OR like the walls weren't even there. They were certainly the beating heart of Fontan.
(Got Sulliven and Suliman mixed up.. Suliman is the player of Sultan David.. recently deleted his account.)
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Concerning the Lions, I am certain Erdogan (player of Korkut) knows more about that. I'll ask him if I see him again on msn or something. He has long been the marshal of teh Lions. But I do no think they were multi's though, much of them came from or knew each other of the war islands. I can still remember their siege on Oroya. With just a little more combat strength they defeated OR like the walls weren't even there. They were certainly the beating heart of Fontan.
(Got Sulliven and Suliman mixed up.. Suliman is the player of Sultan David.. recently deleted his account.)
Indeed I still remember several battles against them. CS didn't really mean much for units such as theirs, to the point quite a few players in Sirion were actually wondering what was the point in making formations and strategies if they could achieve so much by just plugging together a bunch of huge pure infantry units and steamrolling everything. Losing can have a devastating effect on people's mind :P
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Losing can have a devastating effect on people's mind :P
I know what you mean.. :'(
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Indeed I still remember several battles against them. CS didn't really mean much for units such as theirs, to the point quite a few players in Sirion were actually wondering what was the point in making formations and strategies if they could achieve so much by just plugging together a bunch of huge pure infantry units and steamrolling everything. Losing can have a devastating effect on people's mind :P
That was one of the biggest advantages of the Lions, and was a prime reason Fontan was able to hold its own against Sirion before they imploded. The effectiveness of the Lions allowed Fontan to dictate the flow of battles and wars.
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So the Lions were mainly infantry units?
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Yes. The Fontan strategy back then was basically amass a huge infantry ball with maybe some other unit types to make it not too monotonous, and attack. That's why in early 2008 we pushed into Avamar and Ashforth, and controlled all of what Westmoor currently owns (Every region, seriously), held onto the western borders of Akesh Temple and Tokat. For a time, Fontan was holding off against Sirion, CoF, Perdan, Caligus, OR, and some other place that I don't really remember right now.
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So the Lions were mainly infantry units?
Yes the standard was something like 10-15 units of 50 to 80 infantrymen, recruited from some of the best infantry RCs that I've seen around (mostly in Karbala, that was owned by the sponsor of the lions that I guess drafted like hell). Sometimes there was an archer or a SF unit along, but not very often. That gave them a lot of strength because even when losing, they would retain a lot of cs anyway since the majority of those unit would remain with at least around 30 men, and when winning you would be able to fight over and over again without altering too much the composition of the army, not to mention effectiveness in sieges. If you have a balanced army, typically after a close victory you would retain all archers and have basically no infantry left, forcing you to pull back in front of a successive threat. This didn't happen to them.
Sirion had to start investing heavily in cavalry to counter them decently, and it took forever to shift the "omg elves! bows!" mindset into a useful army composition, basically connected to some serious arguing with the dukes in order to let them give gold away. The moment Sirion started to field a couple of 50 men cavalry unit permanently we evened the odds a bit, but I wouldn't go so as far as to say the lions died because we bested them. They killed themselves - after all to maintain such a kind of army you had to go against several principles of "democracy" so to say, and if I am not wrong there were a lot of arguments in Fontan because of that.
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Aye. There was a lot of tension between several in Fontan and the Lions with lots of arguments following. On the other hand, Fontan has the ability to flood an entire Realm with arguments about the littlest things. The massive amount of trees it must have cost to produce all that paper, if we conveniently think in the tree-loving elves mindset for the sake of this joke, has given Sirion every right to wish to destroy Fontan. I wonder if Fontan can fight this war more effectively by simply joining Sirion and start arguing.
Ah, the good old days :)
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50 cavalries evened the odd? Do cavalry units make that much difference? I mean against masses of infantry units? Don't cavalries turn into infantries after the initial charge?
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No well it's not only 50 horses at all. But some huge horse units and more broadly speaking increasing the amount of cavalry really made the difference, you can check battle reports and receiving a 3500 hits charge is quite damaging, and if the horse unit doesn't take too many hits, it goes on inflicting some very nice damage.
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I wonder if the game mechanic allows people to pull something like hammer and anvil. ;D
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No well it's not only 50 horses at all. But some huge horse units and more broadly speaking increasing the amount of cavalry really made the difference, you can check battle reports and receiving a 3500 hits charge is quite damaging, and if the horse unit doesn't take too many hits, it goes on inflicting some very nice damage.
SoA's greatest fear: Sirionite Cavalry. We have lost much battles due to your cavalry. And we lack good cav-RC's to counter yours.
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One of the best things I've ever seen is Sirion cavalry and Perdan Infantry, the Mountain Elite of Castle Ubent 80 80/80 and another infantry from Partora or Perdan City (cant remember their names) were like 75 90/70 or something like that.
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The Perdan Parliamentary Infantry: 75/90/70.
We used to have the best cavalry center, in Aix, the Black Riders. (Which we will soon have again! HA HA HA!!!)
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Sirion just destroyed Fontan in their own capital again. Time to steal some tax gold :)
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Bisquez Castle Guards Inf 65 90/80
Read it and weep. The training might not be as high, but training can be increased, while weapon and armor levels cannot. That's why I like Darka.
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Hm, since this is about war stories on EC, shouldn't we be bragging about our awesome RCs on EC? Let's hear from OI. For all we know they might be secretly harboring a 90 100/100 SF center that they never use only because they don't have the income in their entire realm to recruit and support any. :D
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What? They have 100/100 SF? really?
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The Perdan Parliamentary Infantry: 75/90/70.
We used to have the best cavalry center, in Aix, the Black Riders. (Which we will soon have again! HA HA HA!!!)
That is very unlikely. But Ibladesh also boasts some very nice Cavalry centers. Though I really don't know much about our RCs as I'm a Priest and get to lead a unit of mules ???
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What? They have 100/100 SF? really?
Artemesia said "for all we know". So no, they probably don't have one, but OI tends to be very silent.
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I would be able to tell you an East Continent one if my bloody active nobles would go from 2 to 3. Unfortunately, I am not able to join Sirion (I miss you, my love!) until then.
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Truly one of my favourite and least favourite things is the war banter.
Some of the interactions between the Troop Leader's in regions is absolutely hysterical, and some is completely mental. Not in a terribly good way either. :o
I've seen friendly and honourable encounters between warring states on the EC, and some dastardly but amazingly written deeds happen. EC has flavourful wars if nothing else.
At least between Perdan/Caligus and the recent war of the Federation vs the Alliance. (to quote the Asenian Courier which I do happen to read) The roleplays and letters sent back and forth in combat zones makes me typically chuckle aloud, which is something in itself. :D
I don't know much about the interactions between Sirion and SoA, but I can imagine the years of warring would lead to some interesting character developments.
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Last time I was near the front in Sirion, Fontan seemed to be in denial about losing.
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They aren't losing, they are simply down sizing the realm in these tough economic times.
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Bisquez Castle Guards Inf 65 90/80
Read it and weep. The training might not be as high, but training can be increased, while weapon and armor levels cannot. That's why I like Darka.
I see your Bisquez Castle Guards, and raise you Remton Steele Infantry, 65 90/90. Followed closely by Hawk Blades Infantry, 70 90/70, and Fiendish Pumas Infantry, 85 75/90. The Remton Steele and Hawk Blades are both at 200 capacity, think the Fiendish Pumas are 100 but I'm not sure, might only be 50.
One of the many reasons I love Arcaea. Our lesser infantry is 60 90/50 (grins).
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50 cavalries evened the odd? Do cavalry units make that much difference? I mean against masses of infantry units? Don't cavalries turn into infantries after the initial charge?
In the old battle system they were *devastating*. I played in Sirion for a few months back then, when Sirion had not a single ally and even Perdan and OI were joining the fun. I remember there was one Fontanese Duke who single-handedly won them several huge battles. He had 90ish cavalry. They'd come in huge for something like 4,000 hits on the charge, but the real kicker was that they were able to dish out 2,000 hits per round even after the initial charge. I have no idea what his units stats were, but I've been trying for years to build up a unit like that.
The worst part was reading the battle report and seeing that damn unit dish out 2,000 hits a round and then, thanks to the randomness of the old system, only take 200 hits in turn which would cause like 4 casualties if we were lucky. I will always remember that unit...
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In the old battle system they were *devastating*. I played in Sirion for a few months back then, when Sirion had not a single ally and even Perdan and OI were joining the fun. I remember there was one Fontanese Duke who single-handedly won them several huge battles. He had 90ish cavalry. They'd come in huge for something like 4,000 hits on the charge, but the real kicker was that they were able to dish out 2,000 hits per round even after the initial charge. I have no idea what his units stats were, but I've been trying for years to build up a unit like that.
The worst part was reading the battle report and seeing that damn unit dish out 2,000 hits a round and then, thanks to the randomness of the old system, only take 200 hits in turn which would cause like 4 casualties if we were lucky. I will always remember that unit...
You meant Elberan Carnes Duke of Ashfort or Murat Kalalalaranderen (or something like that) and the cavalry centre which you refer is the Ashfort Shadow Riders 70 90/80 or so, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Sirion has a deadly SF, someone should check it out, right now I have no more time to talk.
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You meant Elberan Carnes Duke of Ashfort or Murat Kalalalaranderen (or something like that) and the cavalry centre which you refer is the Ashfort Shadow Riders 70 90/80 or so, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, I believe that's correct. In the new system units like this are somewhat less effective. 4,000 hits are a waste if you crash into a crappy unit that would have been wiped out by half as much. In the old system the extra hits would get spread around to the entire enemy army (or parts of it - I really have no clue how hits were distributed in the old system).
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Yes, I believe that's correct. In the new system units like this are somewhat less effective. 4,000 hits are a waste if you crash into a crappy unit that would have been wiped out by half as much. In the old system the extra hits would get spread around to the entire enemy army (or parts of it - I really have no clue how hits were distributed in the old system).
Even in the old system sometimes huge amounts of hits would be wasted and I must say that few big sirion/fontan battle were heavily influenced by the luck of the hit waste distribution. Especially whenever cavalry was charging for lots of damage.
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Even in the old system sometimes huge amounts of hits would be wasted and I must say that few big sirion/fontan battle were heavily influenced by the luck of the hit waste distribution. Especially whenever cavalry was charging for lots of damage.
Tell me about it, one of my chars in Sirion got Wiped Out by a 4000 hit from a cavalry charge and my unit had only 20 men... that is complete waste of hits.
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In the old battle system they were *devastating*. I played in Sirion for a few months back then, when Sirion had not a single ally and even Perdan and OI were joining the fun. I remember there was one Fontanese Duke who single-handedly won them several huge battles. He had 90ish cavalry. They'd come in huge for something like 4,000 hits on the charge, but the real kicker was that they were able to dish out 2,000 hits per round even after the initial charge. I have no idea what his units stats were, but I've been trying for years to build up a unit like that.
The worst part was reading the battle report and seeing that damn unit dish out 2,000 hits a round and then, thanks to the randomness of the old system, only take 200 hits in turn which would cause like 4 casualties if we were lucky. I will always remember that unit...
That Duke was Elberan Carnes from Ashforth, but let me tell you that Ecthelion's 70 Slim Riders hitted more than that. The Slim Riders used to have 80 - 90/80