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Title: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on July 09, 2011, 06:26:17 PM
I have a battle scribe note from Dwilight to show you (http://battlemaster.org/ShowScribeNote.php?ID=163271&Hash=90801de23f993c0a). Through the whole battle, our archers were able to fire at the monsters. Then, once the monsters break through the front lines, the "archers move forward to get better shots" even though they were able to shoot at the monsters the entire time.

Is my interpretation of this wrong? Should archers be doing this?
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Anaris on July 09, 2011, 07:03:49 PM
Not a bug.

It's not "once the monsters break through the front lines", it's "once the monsters are engaged in close combat with the infantry".  The monsters broke through the front lines after the archers advanced.

Archers cannot shoot into melee more than 1 row away.
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: egamma on July 09, 2011, 07:58:11 PM
Is the advancing determined by aggressive/normal/defensive?
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Anaris on July 09, 2011, 09:58:32 PM
No. If archers have no target in range, and there are targets left on the field, they will advance to find one.
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: egamma on July 09, 2011, 10:18:34 PM
what if they were defending, with or without walls?
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on July 10, 2011, 11:36:56 AM
Or what if they were dug in?
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on July 17, 2011, 06:43:27 PM
I Company Archers, I Dalian Army (3) fire carefully into the close combat near them.
I Company Archers, I Dalian Army (3) fire on Monsters (7), scoring 1 hits.
Dalian Battle-Hail (2) fire carefully into the close combat near them.
Dalian Battle-Hail (2) fire on Monsters (7), scoring 1 hits.
Longbowmen (4) fire carefully into the close combat near them.
Longbowmen (4) fire on Monsters (7), scoring 1 hits.

So few hits.  :(
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: ^ban^ on July 17, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
Can you provide a battle report for that?
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Huntsmaster on July 17, 2011, 07:38:22 PM
Fissoa just saw this as well:

Sunflights (6) fire on Monsters (1), scoring 111 hits.
Defenders of the South (2) fire on Monsters (1), scoring 223 hits.

becomes

Defenders of the South (2) move closer so they can fire safely into the melee.
Sunflights (6) fire carefully into the close combat near them.
Sunflights (6) fire on Monsters (1), scoring 0 hits.

and

Defenders of the South (2) fire carefully into the close combat near them.
Defenders of the South (2) fire on Monsters (1), scoring 1 hits.
Sunflights (6) fire carefully into the close combat near them.
Sunflights (6) fire on Monsters (1), scoring 1 hits.

Battle report: http://battlemaster.org/ShowScribeNote.php?ID=163969&Hash=75891364f465cbe7
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on July 17, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: ^ban^ on July 17, 2011, 07:05:08 PMCan you provide a battle report for that?

Here it is. (http://battlemaster.org/ShowScribeNote.php?ID=164122&Hash=1283c862fdfbddbf) Dwilight. First round, all the archers target the peasants, thus screwing the infantry. :P
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: fodder on July 18, 2011, 07:03:42 PM
1 arc vs 1 dug in monster

http://battlemaster.org/ShowScribeNote.php?ID=164241&Hash=519e872208ee4ace

not so much stupid archers... as stupid dug in monsters XD

the funniest part is the last bit.

no inf cover, arc retreats
monsters get hit, retreats
arc shocked (and so didn't retreat)
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: egamma on July 18, 2011, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: Vaylon Kenadell on July 17, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Here it is. (http://battlemaster.org/ShowScribeNote.php?ID=164122&Hash=1283c862fdfbddbf) Dwilight. First round, all the archers target the peasants, thus screwing the infantry. :P

Archers always fire on closest target.
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on July 19, 2011, 06:43:19 AM
Quote from: egamma on July 18, 2011, 07:27:57 PMArchers always fire on closest target.

Okay, but should they be scoring only 1 hit for firing into a melee?
Title: Re: More Stupid Archer Behavior
Post by: fodder on July 19, 2011, 07:20:42 AM
tim knows about that and did say there's something wrong there.