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Title: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Heq on July 13, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
This would be way down the list, but an option to simply put someone in an Obliette or the equivelent.  Basically torture without gaining information, for those times when you just want to make someone suffer.  It could do less damage then torture, but be less detectable.

Torture, as it has a use, doesn't convey as much malevolence.  As mentioned, there's probably only a few realms that would do so, so it's not an important alteration.
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Nosferatus on July 13, 2011, 08:24:18 PM
I am sorry but that goes just way beyond proper noble conduct...
And look whos saying it!
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Huntsmaster on July 13, 2011, 11:40:16 PM
I am sorry but that goes just way beyond proper noble conduct...
And look whos saying it!

Well, so does infiltrating, and "leading" the bands of rabble that some call archers.
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Nosferatus on July 14, 2011, 12:47:10 AM
Well, so does infiltrating, and "leading" the bands of rabble that some call archers.

And so it is a secret profession.
Your later remark is senseless, archers where just more useless and cavalry more prestigious above infantry and archers, back in the middle ages, yes.
But there is nothing ignoble about commanding a unit of archers...
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Ramiel on July 14, 2011, 03:01:17 AM
And so it is a secret profession.
Your later remark is senseless, archers where just more useless and cavalry more prestigious above infantry and archers, back in the middle ages, yes.
But there is nothing ignoble about commanding a unit of archers...

Useless?

Crecy anyone?
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Huntsmaster on July 14, 2011, 04:46:22 AM
And so it is a secret profession.
Your later remark is senseless, archers where just more useless and cavalry more prestigious above infantry and archers, back in the middle ages, yes.
But there is nothing ignoble about commanding a unit of archers...

"Nothing ignoble"? NOTHING IGNOBLE? How can you say there's nothing ignoble there? They won't even stand to fight after you run through their arrows!
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Heq on July 14, 2011, 08:02:26 AM
Obliettes and their ilk were not uncommon, I just like the various levels of "ignoble" like we have with looting.  The idea of just throwing someone in a cell and forgetting about them for a while seems to be exactly what one might be inclined to do when you don't want to hurt them, per say, but by god you hate their guts.

I take my job a purveyer of villians very seriously.  Maybe not that seriously, but right now the choices are "utter torturing villian" and "theft no-one ever gets mad about", I like the idea of the "That guy is just a jerk," option.  Many of the best feuds in history start with some action that isn't so much self-serving as just dickish.
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Nosferatus on July 14, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
I think there is already an option for this: torture, but perhaps we could be able to choose low mid or high torture.
You can roleplay what ever you want as to how to torture your prisoner.
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Heq on July 14, 2011, 07:43:55 PM
You get something out of torture though, which is the core of my point.

Anything which has an advantage does not connotate malevolence in the same way that a cruel act without payoff does.  There is also the active-passive difference.  Actively torturing someone connotates care and an active hate, while Obliettes communicate cruel indifference.

Prisons can be used as a method to communicate something thematic about a realm, though you could set it as a realm default prison sentance.  ie:  Prisoners are treated Well, Indifferently, Cruelly.

Game of Thrones makes an excellent showing of the differences in types of prisons.  While it sucks to be captured by some, everyone dreads the prisons of the Aerie.  Of course, those who get out don't forgive their treatment.
Title: Re: Starve Prisoner Option
Post by: Chenier on July 15, 2011, 04:12:39 AM
Different prisoner treatment options could be interesting.

As long as they have costs.