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Title: Automatic Bans
Post by: Kain on July 15, 2011, 07:15:30 PM
I don't know if a stumbled upon a bug or something.

My character was member of Cathay on FEI, and then joined Arcachon. Despite the realms having neutral relations to eachother, the character got no automatic ban from Cathay.

Has the code changed? I remember getting bans even for joining a realm which the original realm had "peace" with and still getting an automatic ban.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Anaris on July 15, 2011, 07:19:09 PM
How did you join the realm?

Changing allegiance (swearing fealty to a new lord), will, I believe, not ever give you an autoban.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: LilWolf on July 15, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: Anaris on July 15, 2011, 07:19:09 PM
How did you join the realm?

Changing allegiance (swearing fealty to a new lord), will, I believe, not ever give you an autoban.

If you join a realm your original realms is at war with, it really should. You are, after all, betraying everything, your realm and your word to your liege. At the very least, the judge should have an option to enact a ban on such a person.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Chenier on July 15, 2011, 11:48:11 PM
Quote from: Kain on July 15, 2011, 07:15:30 PM
I don't know if a stumbled upon a bug or something.

My character was member of Cathay on FEI, and then joined Arcachon. Despite the realms having neutral relations to eachother, the character got no automatic ban from Cathay.

Has the code changed? I remember getting bans even for joining a realm which the original realm had "peace" with and still getting an automatic ban.

Holy !@#$, when's the last time you switched realms? That changed *years* ago. Like in 2007 or so. Guess you must have really liked the realms you played in.  ;D
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Indirik on July 16, 2011, 12:09:22 AM
Yeah, no one gets an auto-ban from a realm anymore.

The only exception is a duke who secedes a city is auto-banned from the parent realm. That's it.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Kain on July 16, 2011, 01:29:46 AM
Had my characters paused for a really long time, just came back so I'm a little fuzzy on some things that have changed :p

Ah, I see, cool.

He joined Arcachon by going to their capital and joining as a "noble", not by swearing fealty.

Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Sacha on July 16, 2011, 03:38:02 AM
Quote from: Indirik on July 16, 2011, 12:09:22 AM
Yeah, no one gets an auto-ban from a realm anymore.

The only exception is a duke who secedes a city is auto-banned from the parent realm. That's it.

Are you sure of that? AFAIK, Fulco doesn't have a ban from PeL on his head for seceding Giask.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Chenier on July 16, 2011, 03:38:52 AM
Quote from: Sacha on July 16, 2011, 03:38:02 AM
Are you sure of that? AFAIK, Fulco doesn't have a ban from PeL on his head for seceding Giask.

Was he the one who seceded or was he kicked out?
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Sacha on July 16, 2011, 03:55:00 AM
He seceded on his own.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Indirik on July 16, 2011, 04:33:27 PM
Quote from: Sacha on July 16, 2011, 03:38:02 AMAre you sure of that? AFAIK, Fulco doesn't have a ban from PeL on his head for seceding Giask.
No, I'm not sure about it. But someone posted on the forums not too long ago, and had a link to their family page showing the ban they got for seceding. Never done it myself, so I don't know. Check the family history for the guy that seceded Aurvandil on Dwilight.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Sacha on July 16, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
Mendincant doesn't have a ban for seceding Candiels. Checked Fulco's history, no ban for seceding Giask. Same for Allison when she seceded Aegir.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Telrunya on July 16, 2011, 06:20:29 PM
It doesn't show up in history that you get banned. It just says you've seceded, but you do get the ban on your head.

Quote2010-07-27      Khaludh      Seceded from the realm and founded Meridian Republic.
2011-01-15      Khaludh      Ban from Riombara lifted by Trahern.
Title: Re: Automatic Bans
Post by: Indirik on July 16, 2011, 08:15:02 PM
Quote from: Sacha on July 16, 2011, 05:31:19 PMSame for Allison when she seceded Aegir.
Yes, Allison did get a ban for seceding Aegir. Like Telrunya says, it must just not show up on your family history page.