Saving everyone from themselves. 8)
Cyrilic? Really?
It says "vodka".
Quote from: Geronus on August 06, 2011, 06:39:58 PM
Cyrilic? Really?
Basically the only thing I can remember from my Russian elementary 1 and 2 classes. It's no more eccentric than the anglo-saxons. ;)
Quote from: Chénier on August 06, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Basically the only thing I can remember from my Russian elementary 1 and 2 classes. It's no more eccentric than the anglo-saxons. ;)
That's not a comparison I would voluntarily accept, personally ;)
Is that the name of your new realm?
Quote from: Geronus on August 06, 2011, 07:49:02 PM
Is that the name of your new realm?
Yes. I've put it on the border signs as well.
Quote from: Chénier on August 06, 2011, 07:54:14 PM
Yes. I've put it on the border signs as well.
Kinda not liking the idea, but kinda having the feeling it's a good reason to "destroy this realm with this devilish alphabet".
unicode works for bm? let's spam some chinese crap...
Quote from: Fleugs on August 06, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
Kinda not liking the idea, but kinda having the feeling it's a good reason to "destroy this realm with this devilish alphabet".
With all this blight around us, I feel quite safe. 8)
Quote from: Fleugs on August 06, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
Kinda not liking the idea, but kinda having the feeling it's a good reason to "destroy this realm with this devilish alphabet".
At least you would have a better reason than half the realms on Beluaterra :o
I think 'a Chenier rules it' is a good enough reason for most enemies :P
Quote from: Sacha on August 07, 2011, 12:59:09 AM
I think 'a Chenier rules it' is a good enough reason for most enemies :P
Considering the causus bellis we've seen these days, I think "because my neighbor's cat ate my bird" would be a good enough reason for most to declare war nowadays.
Yep. You don't even need a reason to start a war these days. If your cake looks bigger than mine, I will just stab you with my fork and take your cake.
Quote from: Zakilevo on August 07, 2011, 04:16:47 AM
If your cake looks bigger than mine, I will just stab you with my folk and take your cake.
I usually use a fork actually. I've never tried hurling my people at a cake. Sure would make birthdays more interesting.
woops. misspelled it. *fork :)
On topic, I'm curious about how you came up with Mirovoy Kaznatchey, the Banker title in IVF. Hetman and Yeasul were both Cossack titles and Mirovoy Sud'ya is the Russian name of Justices of the Peace, but I've got no idea what Mirovoy Kaznatchey means.
QuoteIf your cake looks bigger than mine, I will just stab you with my folk and take your cake.
Worked for Alexander the Great!
Quote from: DoctorHarte on August 07, 2011, 12:56:11 AM
At least you would have a better reason than half the realms on Beluaterra :o
Pssh. Hippies...
Quote from: Iltaran on August 07, 2011, 05:10:41 AM
On topic, I'm curious about how you came up with Mirovoy Kaznatchey, the Banker title in IVF. Hetman and Yeasul were both Cossack titles and Mirovoy Sud'ya is the Russian name of Justices of the Peace, but I've got no idea what Mirovoy Kaznatchey means.
Worked for Alexander the Great!
Couldn't find anything, just made it up by fusionning the justice of the peace title with a translation for treasurer. If I find something better, I'll change that one. Riombara's war declaration (while fully expected) came a little sooner than predicted, and I hadn't worked out all the titles yet by then.
Is that other little city there also going to join the new realm?
It just looks so sad, all alone.
Quote from: Nosferatus on August 07, 2011, 06:39:12 PM
Is that other little city there also going to join the new realm?
It just looks so sad, all alone.
It was supposed to, lol. Fheuvenem is where "Fheuv'n" comes from, after all. The guy might still be on vacation, though.
Quote from: Chénier on August 07, 2011, 11:08:20 PM
It was supposed to, lol. Fheuvenem is where "Fheuv'n" comes from, after all. The guy might still be on vacation, though.
He's been gone for over a week and hasn't lost his position, so he must have logged on. ??? Probably just quick-play or something, but yeah.. wouldn't mind that boosting us up in a few turns... ::)
Quote from: DoctorHarte on August 08, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
He's been gone for over a week and hasn't lost his position, so he must have logged on. ??? Probably just quick-play or something, but yeah.. wouldn't mind that boosting us up in a few turns... ::)
Indeed, I *know* he has logged on. Might be quick-playing, though. It wouldn't really be in anyone's best interests for him to change his mind after all this time... We are cutting off all the trade routes for his city's food, after all.
QuoteGuillaume Chénier
Hetman and Mirovoy Kaznatchey of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na, Senator of Iato, Ambassador of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na
Did I just beat a title length record?
By the way, how was it that Morek changed its name? While BT has historically had a few other realms with medium-sized names, and I have seen medium-sized and long realm names elsewhere, all of BT currently has very short names, making my realm's name 3 times longer than some. I did not intend to troll like this...
Also, does the "change your realm's name" option, the one where the realm's official name must fit in, actually work? Where is that displayed?
Quote from: Chénier on August 08, 2011, 06:49:27 AM
Did I just beat a title length record?
he might beat the BM record, but our RL Queen beats everything:
Queen Beatrix's official title is: "Her Majesty Beatrix, by the Grace of God, Queen of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau, etc. etc. etc." The triple 'etc.' refers to the title Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld and the following titles formerly borne by the Queen. These being dormant titles, they are retained in the masculine form:
Marquis of Veere and Vlissingen (both in the Netherlands);
Count of Buren, Culemborg and Leerdam (all in the Netherlands), Dietz, Katzenelnbogen and Spiegelberg (all three now in Germany), and Vianden (now in Luxembourg);
Viscount of Antwerp (now in Belgium);
Baron of Breda, Cranendonck, Lands of Cuijk, Eindhoven, City of Grave, IJsselstein and Liesveld (all in the Netherlands), Diest, Herstal and Warneton (all three now in Belgium), Beilstein (now in Germany), Arlay and Nozeroy (both now in France);
Hereditary Lord and Seigneur of Ameland (in the Netherlands);
Lord of Baarn, Borculo, Bredevoort, Geertruidenberg, Hooge en Lage Zwaluwe, Klundert, Lichtenvoorde, 't Loo, Naaldwijk, Niervaart, Polanen, Steenbergen, Sint Maartensdijk, Soest, Ter Eem, Willemstad and Zevenbergen (all in the Netherlands), Bütgenbach, Sankt Vith and Turnhout (all three now in Belgium), Besançon and Montfort (now in France), and Daasburg (now in Germany).
Quote from: Nosferatus on August 08, 2011, 08:28:55 AM
Viscount of Antwerp (now in Belgium);
This matter shall be decided once and for all in a duel of beerpong.
Quote from: Chénier on August 08, 2011, 06:49:27 AM
By the way, how was it that Morek changed its name? While BT has historically had a few other realms with medium-sized names, and I have seen medium-sized and long realm names elsewhere, all of BT currently has very short names, making my realm's name 3 times longer than some. I did not intend to troll like this...
We asked Tom to do it manually.
Quote from: Chénier on August 08, 2011, 06:49:27 AMAlso, does the "change your realm's name" option, the one where the realm's official name must fit in, actually work?
Yes.
QuoteWhere is that displayed?
Nowhere.
Right now, all it does is make a DB entry storing the "fancy name" for the realm. It never gets used anywhere,
Quote from: Indirik on August 08, 2011, 03:04:30 PM
Nowhere.
Right now, all it does is make a DB entry storing the "fancy name" for the realm. It never gets used anywhere,
Actually, if a realm has specified the long-form name, you can see it in Information > Realm Government. Probably won't get a lot of people stumbling across it, but it's there.
Like this:
This is the structure of your realm and its overall makeup.
The full name of your realm is "Republic of Oritolon". Its short name is "Oritolon".
Sooo yeah, we just beat Nothoi in CS. ::)
8 nobles in 1 army.
Quote from: DoctorHarte on August 14, 2011, 07:01:04 AM
Sooo yeah, we just beat Nothoi in CS. ::)
8 nobles in 1 army.
With a !@#$ty little town, a woodlands and a bunch of poor rurals, as opposed to a big city, a townslands, and rich mountains.
Love it.
"I don't trust a realm whit this kind of name."
That is one of the best comments of the day :)
Quote from: Chénier on August 15, 2011, 03:45:21 AM
With a !@#$ty little town, a woodlands and a bunch of poor rurals, as opposed to a big city, a townslands, and rich mountains.
Love it.
The only thing is: We don´t have a townsland. we have a good city (not a big one, at least not currently big) one rural and mountains...
Quote from: Naidraug on August 17, 2011, 04:06:24 PM
The only thing is: We don´t have a townsland. we have a good city (not a big one, at least not currently big) one rural and mountains...
I could have sworn Haffemet was a townsland...
Still, the raw gold output of our realm is smaller than of your city alone.
Total, Fheuv'n's raw gold output is 45% of Nothoi's.
Just check the statistics. You're actually pretty close with Nothoi when it comes to income.
Nothoi has the potential to be richer with the regions they have but at least Reeds is far from fully populated.
Also, they seem to be like a lightning rod to Fronen's armies.
So 400 gold per week more, less militia, and still a smaller mobile army?
As if gold were the only determining factor in how much CS a realm can field...
Well, so that's 78% of Nothoi's income.
And as I said, they're warring Fronen. Without receiving auto-recruits from Reeds at least.
Certainly, they could and should do better while IVF is doing good, but you can't compare the two because you're dealing with different issues. Too little population and being the focus of BT's biggest military power are issues that IVF doesn't have to deal with and Nothoi does.
And just so you know, during the invasion when Thalmarin had Unger alone, we sustained 17k CS of which 10-11k was mobile. Because of that we could sporadically take a few regions back from the undead, but we were basically running on a city that was losing peasants and could be fed only on the spare food of OG, Sint and what little we could harvest ourselves.
Quote from: Indirik on August 17, 2011, 07:21:25 PM
As if gold were the only determining factor in how much CS a realm can field...
They also have more nobles.
And no recruits.
If it's any comfort, you're both worthless realms. ;D
Quote from: Fleugs on August 17, 2011, 08:21:10 PM
If it's any comfort, you're both worthless realms. ;D
My food supply ratio says otherwise. ;)
Quote from: Chénier on August 17, 2011, 08:28:01 PM
My food supply ratio says otherwise. ;)
Oh God! Don't whip out your
food supply ratio on me! Anything but that!
Quote from: Vellos on August 18, 2011, 12:59:54 AM
Oh God! Don't whip out your food supply ratio on me! Anything but that!
Oh yes I did!
BEHOLD! 8)
Drinilla's slaves work 20-hour a day producing 400-500 bushels per-harvest! :o
They bake the best cookies 8)
Quote from: DoctorHarte on August 19, 2011, 05:27:32 AM
Drinilla's slaves work 20-hour a day producing 400-500 bushels per-harvest! :o
They bake the best cookies 8)
With Sandlakes' cereals. :P
QuoteLetter from Guillaume Chénier
Message sent to the Rulers of Beluaterra (8 recipients)
Rulers of Beluaterra,
I can bear it no longer. The Imperial Host of Fheuv'n will stand for it no further.
Again and again, time after time, the criminals of Sint have attempted to destroy the lands we all have come to cherish. In the names of their sick and twisted god, they have brought forth their daimonic practices to bring destruction to these lands, seeking to eradicate all forms of life pathetically thinking their own lives would be spared.
The first time around, many suffered but most survived. Their plot to summon the cruel God of Destruction was foiled, and Hemaglobe was denied the chance to walk on this plane to wipe us all off the map as these criminals wanted. With their plan foiled, they prepared for the next occasion, and defended the daimonic nests with threats of arms when even their "friends", that they obviously left to die when the next invasion came, wanted to do something about it.
Whereas some realms sided with the daimons in order to fight another inhuman faction, they joined for religious reasons, acknowledging and worshiping the Goddess of the daimons without a doubt or any hesitation. They joined them because that's what they were waiting for all along, as the only times you ever see Sint "against" the daimons is when these have already lost, to fool the naive.
Shame on the Northern realms. The excuses for your wars are miserable, and so you side with such criminals that sought your destruction, and will seek it again, for but a few regions, some patches of lands that could likely have been negotiated. While I have great respect for Thalmarkin, for the courage and dedication it showed in its fight against the undead, this is but the undoing of your hard-earned reputation.
Hemaism is the path of your undoing. Their caste system, in which daimons are the avatars and physical representations of the gods, "is designed to ensure that the powerful Hemaglobe can carry out the role of the Great Destroyer." He is the "cleaning flame of the volcano" that will "destroy the unworthy" with his "dragons of Jobo" that will "bring swift destruction to his enemies". They have already "cleansed" half the continent. Do you really want to let them continue on with their business, and finish the continent off come the next invasion? Traitors are untouchable during invasions, so we musn't wait.
Men of all civilizations and creeds, it is time to waken and come back to your senses. Short-sighted expansionist agendas will be your undoing. Those that have sinned must be punished. All Hemaists must be brought to repent, and all their temples must be razed. It is our only path to salvation.
It is not too late. Join us, end this despicable heresy.
From the shadows of the blight,
We are the cleansing light.
Guillaume Chénier
Hetman and Mirovoy Kaznatchey of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na, Senator of Iato, Ambassador of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na
Die! Sint die! 8)
You're obsessed! 8)
Quote from: Geronus on August 23, 2011, 04:18:44 AM
You're obsessed! 8)
I have a purpose, that's not the same. 8)
QuoteLetter from Guillaume Chénier (10 hours, 30 minutes ago)
Message sent to the Rulers of Beluaterra (8 recipients)
King Micheal,
Do you not realize that the realms of your part said exactly the same thing after the third invasion?
One would think your kingdom would have greater memory, for they have caused a lot more harm to your realm in the past two years than they have done good. Have you already forgotten how they have almost destroyed you?
They have not changed, not in the slightest. They have acted the same way after the fourth invasion as they have after the third. Hypocritical claims of repent, of change.
Yet they are still a theocracy, ruled by a faith that calls for the destruction of us all by the hands of the daimons.
They have proven to be strategic and convenient allies of Old Grehk, choosing to fight a war that would not threaten them instead of risking themselves, to take out the realm that is a greater threat to their mischievous ambitions. There is nothing honorable or loyal in their deeds. All they have done is agreed to your plans for an attack on Fronen so as to keep themselves safe while pleasing their daimonic God of Destruction.
Or did you mean when they allowed the Light to help them? Given the ability to go back in time, they no doubt would have done this much later. They accepted them thinking they would be invincible, and how ever they moaned when the undead came to them to show this not to be the case.
They are turncoats extraordinaire. In the last age, they were close friends with Heen, who had defended their reputation again and again, against such claims as I make today. That they had repented, that things had changed and that they regretted their actions. Guess who were the first to perish to the daimons in the fourth invasion? Oh how much empathy did Sint display when their closest ally and most loyal defender perished to the dragons of their god!
What fate do you expect for your realm come the next invasion? Do you really expect Sint to be more caring after behaving in the exact same manner two invasions in a row? Considering you are the only realm left next to Sint now with all this blight, how long do you expect to survive the next invasion?
I urge you to think farther than just the coming months. Your realm will obviously be the first to fall when the daimons oh Hemaglobe return. I have no interest in fighting your armies. But the Hemaists must be destroyed.
Guillaume Chénier
Hetman and Mirovoy Kaznatchey of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na, Senator of Iato, Ambassador of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na
Quote from: Chénier on August 23, 2011, 04:35:37 AM
I have a purpose, that's not the same. 8)
Hair splitter!
Not that I don't applaud this. Grudges (or even better, Crusades!) really make this game interesting.
Quote from: Geronus on August 23, 2011, 05:24:30 AM
Hair splitter!
Not that I don't applaud this. Grudges (or even better, Crusades!) really make this game interesting.
If my powers to affect the political landscape of BT are related to the lengths of my titles, I foresee great changes to come. :P
So let the crusade against Hemaism (among other things) begin!
Quote from: Chénier on August 23, 2011, 05:29:36 AM
If my powers to affect the political landscape of BT are related to the lengths of my titles, I foresee great changes to come. :P
Fronen can only hope...
Well. Fronen showed Sint that they are not dead yet... We should really be showing that to OG and Thalmarkin..
Quote from: Geronus on August 23, 2011, 05:32:44 AM
Fronen can only hope...
Fronen is far from dead. From now on, it's pretty close from a stale mate, though slightly disfavoring Fronen. Melhed will tip the balance in whatever direction they join, if they join any.
Otherwise, with time, Enweil will crush Riombara before irreparable damage is dealt against Fronen. And then all those who sided with Sint will regret having done so as Fronen gets backed by Enweil's full armies. ;)
Or they could all just turn on Sint now. 8)
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Sir Winston Churchill
Quote from: Iltaran on August 23, 2011, 07:15:41 AM
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Sir Winston Churchill
Fanatism... we need more of it! Join the crusade! Kill the heathens! Crush Hemaism! 8)
Your obsession with Sint, and even Rio, has reached the OOC disturbing level. You realize that, right?
Quote from: Draco Tanos on August 23, 2011, 08:06:29 AM
Your obsession with Sint, and even Rio, has reached the OOC disturbing level. You realize that, right?
No, the disturbing thing is this is AFTER he took a step back from the game and relaxed a bit.
...
Yes, that does make it quite a bit more disturbing.
some one in the Melhed senate just proposed to declare war on you guys (i am not bothering to prenounce this..) which received some good reactions.
Some felt deeply insulted by Cheniers letters.
I mean if you want to find allies, you don't start your letter with accusing them and insulting them of dishonor etc during the invasion and then saying, just because Sint is worse, Melheds wrongs are ok.
But thanks, you might just have helped us make a decision, our votes again came to a bloody tie between neutrality and War against Fronen...
Quote from: Nosferatus on August 23, 2011, 09:41:25 AM
some one in the Melhed senate just proposed to declare war on you guys (i am not bothering to prenounce this..) which received some good reactions.
Some felt deeply insulted by Cheniers letters.
I mean if you want to find allies, you don't start your letter with accusing them and insulting them of dishonor etc during the invasion and then saying, just because Sint is worse, Melheds wrongs are ok.
But thanks, you might just have helped us make a decision, our votes again came to a bloody tie between neutrality and War against Fronen...
Right now I have no respect for Melhed, simply because they haven't been involved in a human war for... I was told, 6 years, on IRC. Honestly, I think the last war was against Ar Agyr/The Valentic Order? Something like that?
If you go kick that worthless Ruski-realm in the nuts, you will gain respect for another 6 years. ;D
Quote from: Nosferatus on August 23, 2011, 09:41:25 AMour votes again came to a bloody tie between neutrality and War against Fronen...
Melhed couldn't make a decision?! Oh, the inhumanity!
Quote from: Chénier on August 23, 2011, 05:29:36 AMSo let the crusade against Hemaism (among other things) begin!
It's about damn time.
Quote from: Indirik on August 23, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
Melhed couldn't make a decision?! Oh, the inhumanity!
It's about damn time.
yeah i am thinking about open rebllion right now, just out of frustration.
If my characters husband didn't keep calming Shae down, it would have already happened.
If it happened she'd change melhed in an absolute monarchy.
OOC, it's all fun and games! 8)
So Duke Max is still hanging on all alone there claiming your name sake city?
Quote from: Nosferatus on August 27, 2011, 10:23:20 AM
So Duke Max is still hanging on all alone there claiming your name sake city?
Yes. ;D
Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na few players, tiny realm, many enemies
Found that amusing. >.>
Quote from: Draco Tanos on September 14, 2011, 06:55:58 AM
Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na few players, tiny realm, many enemies
Found that amusing. >.>
Many enemies? Really? Two?
It's what BattleMaster says to immigrating players. lol
Well, 2 wars and a Hatred. So 3 Wars.
Quote from: Draco Tanos on September 14, 2011, 07:26:27 AM
It's what BattleMaster says to immigrating players. lol
Well, 2 wars and a Hatred. So 3 Wars.
Old Grehk decalred war on us? I didn't even know... I thought we were still neutral to them. :o
Shows how much OG mattered to me. 8)
Enweil large realm Map - Details
Fronen many players, many enemies Map - Details
Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na few players, tiny realm, many enemies Map - Details
Melhed large realm Map - Details
Nothoi few players, small realm Map - Details
Old Grehk many players, many allies Map - Details
Riombara Map - Details
Sint Map - Details
Thalmarkin many allies Map - Details
Riombara and Sint are both un-special :P
I'm so glad we have rogue regions next to us! At least something good came out of the estates system xP
so your name sake city is still not part of your realm? :P
What is this guy thinking?
Quote from: Nosferatus on October 06, 2011, 09:26:14 AM
so your name sake city is still not part of your realm? :P
What is this guy thinking?
We'll have it eventually.
The days of the Hetmanate are over, the Holy Host of Fheuv'n has sworn allegiance to Enweil and rejoined the holders of the Holy City.
Eh... Since when is it possible to merge realms again?
Did it have a city? If it was the last city of a realm joining another realm, that's definitely a bug. I thought that was fixed after Caerwyn used it to join Asylon...
http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=6200
Actually, that's a bit different that what happened with Caerwyn. But, regardless, realm mergers like that are against the rules. The last city of a realm should not be able to swap realms.
Yup. It had a city. I think not for long anymore though...
Quote from: Indirik on April 22, 2012, 07:46:07 PM
Did it have a city? If it was the last city of a realm joining another realm, that's definitely a bug. I thought that was fixed after Caerwyn used it to join Asylon...
http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=6200
Actually, that's a bit different that what happened with Caerwyn. But, regardless, realm mergers like that are against the rules. The last city of a realm should not be able to swap realms.
Duke of the duchy of Fheuvenem, after stepping down from rulership, switched allegiance to Enweil.
It wasn't possible. In the old system. But the new estate system seems to lack more features than it has. I'm not really surprised.
Quote
Realm Allegiance Changed (36 minutes ago)
message to the duke and nobles of Fheuvenem
Your Duke Marec Alumaani has changed the allegiance of Fheuvenem to the realm of Enweil. As one of his knights, you have automatically joined this realm.
[protest options]
Duchy Leaves Realm (36 minutes ago)
message to all nobles of Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na
Marec Alumaani has changed the allegiance of Fheuvenem to the realm of Enweil. He and his knights and their units have all left your realm.
[protest options]
Duchy Changes Allegiance (36 minutes ago)
message to Everyone on Beluaterra
Fheuvenem has changed its allegiance with all its regions to the realm of Enweil. The region used to belong to Imperskoe Viys'ko iz Fheuv'na.
Quote from: Lorgan on April 22, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
Yup. It had a city. I think not for long anymore though...
TO of Fheuvenem by Midnight of the South was about half-done, with 10% progress per day about.
Really, though, this doesn't change anything. All of the lords would have switched anyways, leaving Fheuvenem as the last region, which would then have been promptly TOed a day or so later.
So, apparently, Riombarans have the "true refugees of Enweil and IVF". Interesting.
Funny thing, though, that all of the key characters and families of both realm are now in Enweil. Chénier? Julian? Zepplins? Kinsey? Zotral? Immortals? Harte? Yup, all the oldies still in Enweil. Plus the other key Fheuv'n families, still in Enweil. Riombara has... 3?
And I must say, I still don't understand why they betrayed their oath, especially Marec. He was Guillaume's #2. Power got to his head, I guess.
NECROMANCY!
Quote from: Zaki on December 17, 2012, 09:58:04 PM
NECROMANCY!
It's Chenier, of course he would side with the Invasion Forces like that ;D
Quote from: Telrunya on December 17, 2012, 09:59:41 PM
It's Chenier, of course he would side with the Invasion Forces like that ;D
It's comments like these that really makes the need for a Like button on the forums!
Electing Chénier as ruler of Enweil was a bad idea.
He calls himself Supreme Chancellor. Like he's higher than Riombara's Chancellor.
This must be corrected. With the sword!
Also time to get rid of this Cossack nonsense.
Quote from: Fleugs on December 18, 2012, 01:18:27 AM
Electing Chénier as ruler of Enweil was a bad idea.
He calls himself Supreme Chancellor. Like he's higher than Riombara's Chancellor.
This must be corrected. With the sword!
Also time to get rid of this Cossack nonsense.
Nicolas put that title in place, years back. It's been consistently used by every Enweilian ruler since.
Amusingly though, it did come as a reaction to Riombara calling their own ruler "High Chancellor", as if it was superior to Enweil's plain "Chancellor". :P
Even more amusing, though, is that Riombara claims to have the true cossacks. Pretty hilarious when the core tenants of the Creed of the Cossacks was an oath to give one's life for all Enweili people.
Then again, Riombara could just accept Guillaume's proposed Union, which would make the distinction of claims between Enweil and Riombara moot.
Don't know what Riombarans are doing but they should just kill Enweil and get things over with.
Quote from: Zaki on December 18, 2012, 01:27:55 AM
Don't know what Riombarans are doing but they should just kill Enweil and get things over with.
They've been attempting that for half a dozen years. Maybe they grew bored of it and want to do something else?
They could try to steamroll Enweil, but then I'd have to wonder: "what next"? I'm personally rather tired of the Enweil-Riombara conflict, and hoping something new can evolve, not just a repeat of the last three ages (or more?).
What WOULD provide for pretty awesome changes would be for a wedding between Liara Anaris and Guillaume Chénier. Call me babe! Folcard's got the offer, though I'm not sure he's intending to share it.
Nah. Rio can finish off Enweil and attack Melhed or Thalmarkin :D
Quote from: Zaki on December 18, 2012, 02:10:16 AM
Nah. Rio can finish off Enweil and attack Melhed or Thalmarkin :D
Or, Liara could marry Guillaume, and then the southern Union could attack Melhed or Thalmarkin. ;)
Marriage choices are that sparse down in the South? >.>
nah, enweil should just die
Quote from: Draco Tanos on December 18, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Marriage choices are that sparse down in the South? >.>
Guillaume would make an excellent husband! You'd barely ever have to see him. ;)
If you mean Liara, though... Women are sparse. Notable women even more so. Women from royal families... she's the only one I spotted. At first I was thinking of a double-marriage, and try to force Saku to marry Fulcard or something, but after some verifications Saku Zotral is male, which came as quite a bummer.
Could go off and try to marry Lea, the Pontifex of Sint. That'd be amusing.
Quote from: Chénier on December 18, 2012, 01:33:44 AM
What WOULD provide for pretty awesome changes would be for a wedding between Liara Anaris and Guillaume Chénier. Call me babe! Folcard's got the offer, though I'm not sure he's intending to share it.
He shared it. Guillaume would have to convert, of course. No way the Prophetess of Quintarianism could wed a heretic.
I think the more likely scenario is that the Hand of the Five will call upon the dedicats of the Son to cleave the impertinent heads of the Enweilians.
Hmm... A religious war to the South... My characters on BT would hope they would wipe each other out as far as their faiths were concerned. >.>
Quote from: Draco Tanos on December 18, 2012, 02:59:00 AM
Could go off and try to marry Lea, the Pontifex of Sint. That'd be amusing.
Indeed it would. But Guillaume has a thing for Liara. ;)
Quote from: Bedwyr on December 18, 2012, 03:26:45 AM
He shared it. Guillaume would have to convert, of course. No way the Prophetess of Quintarianism could wed a heretic.
Could be workable.
Why eliminate a foe you can convert? :P
Meh, doesn't matter. Hemaglobe will crush them all in the end. (If I can ever convince them to stop being all "let's be friends" and all that crap...)
Quote from: Chénier on December 18, 2012, 04:00:25 AM
Indeed it would. But Guillaume has a thing for Liara. ;)
Could be workable.
Why eliminate a foe you can convert? :P
The First Divine of the Bastard is in favour of conversions by the bed. More converts in the end, and almost as good exercise as conversions by the sword!
Quote from: Indirik on December 18, 2012, 04:01:01 AM
Meh, doesn't matter. Hemaglobe will crush them all in the end. (If I can ever convince them to stop being all "let's be friends" and all that crap...)
Bring 100 000 CS and you can convince them of anything.
But while a marriage with Sint's ruler would prove an intersting twist (however unlikely it is to happen), it wouldn't change the dynamics of the south. I really dread the idea of yet another Rio-Enweil war. Isn't there ANYONE else Rio might like to bash on for once? Just for once?
Quote from: Bedwyr on December 18, 2012, 04:03:13 AM
The First Divine of the Bastard is in favour of conversions by the bed. More converts in the end, and almost as good exercise as conversions by the sword!
Unless Liara would want to actually live with Guillaume (doubtful), any offspring from such a union would likely be raised however she pleases.
But hey, Enweil lacks a religion right now. If Quintarianism wants to spread, the bed would be a much more efficient way of doing so.
LOL I doubt Riombarans are stupid. They wouldn't want to give enough time for Enweil to rebuild.
Better to get rid of your enemy now before they recover. Well even if Enweil recover, they can't really match the might of Riombara anymore.
Quote from: Zaki on December 18, 2012, 04:14:37 AM
LOL I doubt Riombarans are stupid. They wouldn't want to give enough time for Enweil to rebuild.
Better to get rid of your enemy now before they recover. Well even if Enweil recover, they can't really match the might of Riombara anymore.
Indeed. I was rather surprised at Folcard's aggressiveness. If Rio wants hostilities, why didn't it put us out of our misery right when the invasion ended? Would have been a piece of cake.
As for "get rid of your enemy before they recover"... Rio started all of the last wars against Enweil. Enweil isn't a threat, it never really wanted war with Rio. War with Rio is repetitive. It's been done to death. Enweil got permanently crippled while Riombara got a huge bounty and is stronger than ever before. Enweil's reliable allies, like Avalon, are long gone. We are warm with Fronen, but who knows if its mutual. And even if it was, it's not like Rio has to worry about a gang bang, there would be a ton of people eager to jump in to Rio's aid should Fronen attack them (which is extremely improbable). And I'm sure Nothoi wouldn't mind taking a chunk of Enweil should another war happen there.
So yea, Rio *could* start a war against Enweil, and then move on to other things. Or, it could make a union with Enweil, and immediately move on to other things, with Enweil as a buffer state and its forces to help out. Expanding would increase distance from the realm issues, while shrinking Enweil would lower the continental realm average, increasing the large realm penalties for Rio. On top of that, spreading out nobles would reduce estate efficiency, and therefore income per region.
And besides, with a royal wedding that would include adoption of your religion, you'd have Enweil by the balls. Not much to worry about there.
Fronen + Enweil can't beat Riombara. Riombara should just make some colonies by smashing Enweil and Fronen. MAKE AN EMPIRE :D
Quote from: Zaki on December 18, 2012, 05:46:22 AM
Fronen + Enweil can't beat Riombara. Riombara should just make some colonies by smashing Enweil and Fronen. MAKE AN EMPIRE :D
The main issue with that is lack of nobles. That's the only reason Riombara hasn't already smashed and colonized, and it will continue to be a major issue.
Plus we've all seen how empires can ruin it for everyone... *looks at Atamara*
*cough* *cough*
Quote from: Zaki on December 18, 2012, 05:46:22 AM
Fronen + Enweil can't beat Riombara. Riombara should just make some colonies by smashing Enweil and Fronen. MAKE AN EMPIRE :D
Never said it could.
Riombara + Enweil + Fronen could probably bash a skull or two, however.
Quote from: Bedwyr on December 18, 2012, 07:25:08 AM
The main issue with that is lack of nobles. That's the only reason Riombara hasn't already smashed and colonized, and it will continue to be a major issue.
The smashing part does not require more nobles. ;D
Quote from: vonGenf on December 18, 2012, 01:26:34 PM
The smashing part does not require more nobles. ;D
More nobles means more smashing and more colonizing!
Heh.
Killing Enweil? Nope. Both I as player and my character would hate to see Enweil die. In addition Sassan believes that Riombara becoming too strong is not a good idea in the long run.
However, Sassan is a mortal enemy of Guillaume - there were several instances of betrayal during the invasion which Sassan recalls quite intensely, thank you. Betrayal of everyone left, right and center (Enweil, his own IVF, Riombara, the daimons, humanity, then once again the daimons...and in between humanity once or twice more) on and off the battlefield /should/ come back to haunt one ;)
Though I /do/ admit at admiring Guillaumes verve of suggesting an alliance between....himself and Riombara. By now Sassan is in near panic trying to check diplomatic papers for hidden poisoned needles....he certainly does not feel up to the task of countering Guillaumes coils.
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on December 18, 2012, 11:08:43 PM
Heh.
Killing Enweil? Nope. Both I as player and my character would hate to see Enweil die. In addition Sassan believes that Riombara becoming too strong is not a good idea in the long run.
However, Sassan is a mortal enemy of Guillaume - there were several instances of betrayal during the invasion which Sassan recalls quite intensely, thank you. Betrayal of everyone left, right and center (Enweil, his own IVF, Riombara, the daimons, humanity, then once again the daimons...and in between humanity once or twice more) on and off the battlefield /should/ come back to haunt one ;)
Though I /do/ admit at admiring Guillaumes verve of suggesting an alliance between....himself and Riombara. By now Sassan is in near panic trying to check diplomatic papers for hidden poisoned needles....he certainly does not feel up to the task of countering Guillaumes coils.
I need to be bold. The stakes are high. I obviously don't want to leave Enweil, and I honestly think Enweil doesn't want me to leave either (it's silent enough even with me in it, I help make sure that at least there are more than undead reports every now and then). But he's hated by many, in Rio and beyond. But even if he wasn't there, there's enough people who dislike Enweil as a whole, and who'd use any pretext such as recreating "IVF" to start a war.
The only option I see is offering a pacific way for Riombara to conquer Enweil. At this point, even trying to resist Riombara would be futile. I'd rather be their bitches and get some conflicts with a new enemy for once than lose half of our territory or more repeating the same old dreaded war,
Quote from: Chénier on December 18, 2012, 11:17:02 PM
there's enough people who dislike Enweil as a whole, and who'd use any pretext such as recreating "IVF" to start a war.
I think if Enweil would be willing to give up some land and promise to banish your family forever it can gaurantee a decent existence in the future and a chance to start a new.
Quote from: Nosferatus on December 19, 2012, 12:04:42 AM
I think if Enweil would be willing to give up some land and promise to banish your family forever it can gaurantee a decent existence in the future and a chance to start a new.
I don't really buy that.
Besides, that'd be boring.
A Chénier-Anaris union would be hella awesome. Even if it implies Guillaume becoming Liara's bitch.
My greatest interrogation is to know which is greater: Liara's hatred of Guillaume or Liara's ambition.
Depends. There are reports in Riombara that Guillaume sided with the Daimons. No one, as of yet, is countering those reports, and that's a pretty big stain to try to escape.
Quote from: Bedwyr on December 19, 2012, 06:17:34 AM
Depends. There are reports in Riombara that Guillaume sided with the Daimons. No one, as of yet, is countering those reports, and that's a pretty big stain to try to escape.
No doubt.
That's why he's going to come to Riombara to speak for himself. :P
Hopefully, regardless of the outcome, some good RP will ensue. I'm just hoping I don't pop up, and nobody shows up. It would make me sad. :'(
But then again, I'm not likely to just accept that and head back home.
I'll be there and chip in for some good RP... I always look forward to those in-person meetings in Battlemaster. They are just so much better.
Expect to be subjugated though. For Folcard, Enweil doesn't have to become Riombara's little slave, and it can even thrive under "Riombaran" rule, but it will have to give up (a lot).
Quote from: Fleugs on August 08, 2011, 09:36:35 AM
This matter shall be decided once and for all in a duel of beerpong.
This is the manner in which I plan to stake my claim as royalty in Lichtenstein.
Quote from: Fleugs on December 19, 2012, 01:36:07 PM
I'll be there and chip in for some good RP... I always look forward to those in-person meetings in Battlemaster. They are just so much better.
Expect to be subjugated though. For Folcard, Enweil doesn't have to become Riombara's little slave, and it can even thrive under "Riombaran" rule, but it will have to give up (a lot).
We'll see how things play out. There are a few things that would be hard for Guillaume to cede, but he's otherwise willing to cede on a lot more points then would probably be expected of him.
Quote from: Chénier on December 19, 2012, 11:43:41 PM
We'll see how things play out. There are a few things that would be hard for Guillaume to cede, but he's otherwise willing to cede on a lot more points then would probably be expected of him.
He didn't say Guillaume will have to cede things. He said Enweil will have to cede things.
Quote from: vonGenf on December 19, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
He didn't say Guillaume will have to cede things. He said Enweil will have to cede things.
Same thing. ;)
Quote from: Chénier on December 20, 2012, 12:27:38 AM
Same thing. ;)
What if Guillaume is what has to be ceded?
Quote from: vonGenf on December 20, 2012, 12:41:06 AM
What if Guillaume is what has to be ceded?
We'll have to see that IG, now, won't we? :P
Meeting's been set.
Wouldn't miss it for the world.
Well, that's not true. I totally would. Depending on the definition of "the world", that could be quite lucrative...
Guillaume Chénier, King of Fwuvoghor, Hetman of Fheuv'n, and Supreme Chancellor of Enweil has arrived at his destination. 8)
Quote from: Chénier on December 25, 2012, 03:26:12 AM
Guillaume Chénier, King of Fwuvoghor, Hetman of Fheuv'n, and Supreme Chancellor of Enweil has arrived at his destination. 8)
place your bets ladies and gentlemen.
How long will weird long anoying name part 2 survive?
1:1 for within the month
1:3 for the second month
1:5 for third month
1:120 for it to survive for a year
Either way go chenier! ;D
Quote from: Chénier on December 25, 2012, 03:26:12 AM
Guillaume Chénier, King of Fwuvoghor
(http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/atfirstiwuzl128461918594218750.jpg)
This visit to Jidington must have rapidly become annoying to the Snake.
Quote from: Fleugs on December 26, 2012, 05:20:47 PM
This visit to Jidington must have rapidly become annoying to the Snake.
It's actually tamer than predicted.
Come on, Liara, Guillaume's a hawt sex-machine! 8)
If you need a Russian/Ukrainian speaker, talk to me. I'm in Riombara, Folcard. From all the titles and the name itself, you're trying to either imitate Russian or Ukrainian. Bad translation really. Imperial Army of Fv'n or something like that. I can also advise on Ukrainian cossacks a little bit, as I took Ukrainian history in school.
Some pictues of Chenier & co greeted by the people of Feuven:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Lemberg280443.jpg
Yes Chenier had big plans for Feuven.
I finally understand why chenier had chosen Ukrainian for the title of his realm.
Quote from: Nosferatus on January 06, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Some pictues of Chenier & co greeted by the people of Feuven:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Lemberg280443.jpg
Yes Chenier had big plans for Feuven.
I finally understand why chenier had chosen Ukrainian for the title of his realm.
Bit tasteless there. You could have at least removed all the swastikas.
Quote from: Antonine on January 06, 2013, 01:25:41 PM
Bit tasteless there. You could have at least removed all the swastikas.
I'll ask wikipedia...
Quote from: Radigand on January 06, 2013, 09:09:36 AM
If you need a Russian/Ukrainian speaker, talk to me. I'm in Riombara, Folcard. From all the titles and the name itself, you're trying to either imitate Russian or Ukrainian. Bad translation really. Imperial Army of Fv'n or something like that. I can also advise on Ukrainian cossacks a little bit, as I took Ukrainian history in school.
I know it's bad grammar. I noticed it after I seceded, and didn't get the changes I requested.
It's also not meant to be a replica of any specific cossack host. Nor any language in particular. I took russian language classes, so that's mostly what I worked off, but I still managed some mistakes and did burrow liberally from ukrainian when required.