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BattleMaster => Helpline => Topic started by: Zakilevo on August 20, 2011, 02:32:46 AM
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I am wondering how wave attacks work.
If I set my men like this:
15inf/FRONT - 15inf/MIDDLE + 15arc/MIDDLE - 15inf/BACK
would it be any better than just a regular setting? (ex: 45inf/FRONT - 15arc/MIDDLE)
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I am wondering how wave attacks work.
If I set my men like this:
15inf/FRONT - 15inf/MIDDLE + 15arc/MIDDLE - 15inf/BACK
would it be any better than just a regular setting? (ex: 45inf/FRONT - 15arc/MIDDLE)
That is incredibly detailed. Are you sure you're getting as much out of the combat system by doing that?
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I usually use just general settings that everyone uses.
When I order my men to attack,
Inf: Front-Line-Aggressive
Arc: Front-Line-Normal or Middle-Line-Normal
Cav: Back-Wedge-Aggressive or Rear-Wedge-Aggressive
When I defend,
Inf: Front-Box-Defensive
Arc: M-L-D
Cav: B-W-N or R-W-N
but these settings are so boring. Everyone is using some what similar settings. So I am wondering what happens if I use those settings I've mentioned above. But more I think about it, more I feel I will just get all of my men killed in the blink of an eye...
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Your men will not survive more than around. Which means they won't get to hit often.
I would not advise for such line settings. Sending some troops ahead of the others can sometimes be desirable, but only to a limited extent and in very particular situations.
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I usually use just general settings that everyone uses.
When I order my men to attack,
Inf: Front-Line-Aggressive
Arc: Front-Line-Normal or Middle-Line-Normal
Cav: Back-Wedge-Aggressive or Rear-Wedge-Aggressive
When I defend,
Inf: Front-Box-Defensive
Arc: M-L-D
Cav: B-W-N or R-W-N
but these settings are so boring. Everyone is using some what similar settings. So I am wondering what happens if I use those settings I've mentioned above. But more I think about it, more I feel I will just get all of my men killed in the blink of an eye...
If everyone you know is using those settings, then they should lose more battles.
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I usually use just general settings that everyone uses.
When I order my men to attack,
Inf: Front-Line-Aggressive
Arc: Front-Line-Normal or Middle-Line-Normal
Cav: Back-Wedge-Aggressive or Rear-Wedge-Aggressive
Using the same settings for every battle is a terrible idea. I *always* customize my settings according to the enemy army composition *and* formation habits.
Mesh, I think, always used the same formations, as did some of the other westerners when they gang-banged Enweil. Let us defeat them again and again when we otherwise wouldn't have. (number 1 cause of our victories was their utterly horrible strategy and inability to fight in an organized manner, though, adn that until I left for a week of camping at the end of that summer)
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If I am assaulting a fortified region (lv2) would it be stupid to use
Inf: F-B-A
Arc: F-L-N
Cav: B-W-A
??
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If I am assaulting a fortified region (lv2) would it be stupid to use
Inf: F-B-A
Arc: F-L-N
Cav: B-W-A
??
I base my settings on a lot of factors, as I previously said.
Something you must keep in mind is that you want to break through those walls with these infantry. If you put them to box, they'll last longer on the walls, but they also will have a hell of a hard time breaking through anything, as they will have their damage reduced by the formation as well as the walls. However, if you were counting on your archers to do most of the killing, then that's not necessarily a bad idea.
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Well I don't have much choice but to attack at this point.
I only have 450 inf + 80 arc + 160 cav while I need to beat back 530 inf + 160 arc + 200 cav.
I think I will have some peasants on my side, about 5-600? I think it will be a suicidal attack but if I don't I will lose a vital region.
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Well I don't have much choice but to attack at this point.
I only have 450 inf + 80 arc + 160 cav while I need to beat back 530 inf + 160 arc + 200 cav.
I think I will have some peasants on my side, about 5-600? I think it will be a suicidal attack but if I don't I will lose a vital region.
And they're behind walls? Unless your troops are much better quality, that's a suicide attack for sure.
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Hmm. I should just wait until they go for a refit or something then :-\
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What's the CS?
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My army has 10k CS while my enemies have a total of 11250 CS. I might get a bit more once militia forms again.
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My army has 10k CS while my enemies have a total of 11250 CS. I might get a bit more once militia forms again.
You are attacking walls with less CS than the defenders have?
Prepare for a slaughter...
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I have to stop the TO :( oh well I might just let them. Damn Fronen is as well as dead at this point :P
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I have to stop the TO :( oh well I might just let them. Damn Fronen is as well as dead at this point :P
Why? You could just come in to re TO it after.
Also, if they don't own the region, they won't use the walls. You know this, right?
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I am pretty sure they will use the walls if they start the TO. Am I wrong? If I am why am I not attacking them? lol
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I am pretty sure they will use the walls if they start the TO. Am I wrong? If I am why am I not attacking them? lol
Wrong. But you won't get to use them either.
All of the previous statements done by myself and Bedwyr were made considering your statement that they were gonna have those walls.
So go bash on their heads before they finish the TO, already.
And don't lose hope. Enweil successfully fought off the combined armies of Sint, Mesh, Hetland, and Heen for quite a while. You can muster the same.
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Ahh. Well if they want us to become turtle lovers fine we will love our turtle shells. Let's see how long we can last with our fortifications :D
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If I am fighting them on the field without any fortification,
what things should I consider when I am making the settings?
200 cav is kind of a lot. I want to use the box settings but then archers will just eat them alive unless the weather is bad. Maybe wedge for infantries....
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Ahh. Well if they want us to become turtle lovers fine we will love our turtle shells. Let's see how long we can last with our fortifications :D
You won't have the fortifications either, though, for as long as the takeover is running. If you break the takeover with the first wave, though, then you could use the walls for the second fight. I haven't got much experience with breaking takeovers, though, so I'm not sure what it'd take for the takeover to abort.
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ah no worries I will just make another topic to ask others :) Thank you for the help though Chenier :D
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If you have any idea what their settings are, that will help a lot. Now, one tactic is to have a single unit suicide before your main attack to find out what formations and settings they are using. They can, of course, change what they're set to in the intervening turn...But it sounds like you may not have many options at this point.
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I am pretty sure they will use the walls if they start the TO. Am I wrong?
Yes.
The only forces that can ever use the walls are the region owner's forces. But there are situations where the region owner themselves can't use the walls. Such as if the region owner is trying to stop an enemy TO.
If the region owner gets the walls, anyone fighting on their side will also get to use the walls. But the region owner must have forces in the battle for this to happen.