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Title: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Revan on August 31, 2011, 03:33:01 PM
So, I know Giblot has endured some low points in its time, but right now she looks in the most dire straits she's ever been. I'm just curious as to whether she'll survive this one or whether Giblot's actually toast this time. How much longer has she got or is there a phoenix-like resurgence on the cards?
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on August 31, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
I was there 3 weeks ago before leaving for Minas Thalion, she seemed pretty dead to me. The military seemed reluctant to fight back and most people had given up with the politics, so she's [rpbably going to fall pretty soon.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 02, 2011, 01:23:53 PM
Yep, our General's *brilliant* strategy to sit in the capital while our regions burn didn't work out too well. Now that people are noticing that the recruitment centers disappear when the region goes rogue, it's a little too late.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Anaris on September 02, 2011, 01:35:00 PM
Yep, our General's *brilliant* strategy to sit in the capital while our regions burn didn't work out too well. Now that people are noticing that the recruitment centers disappear when the region goes rogue, it's a little too late.

So...was this an actual plan on the part of the General, or just a general incompetence leading to stagnation?

(Hard to tell the difference between bitterness and sarcasm sometimes ;D )
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 02, 2011, 02:04:41 PM
Yep, our General's *brilliant* strategy to sit in the capital while our regions burn didn't work out too well. Now that people are noticing that the recruitment centers disappear when the region goes rogue, it's a little too late.

I do believe Allyah told you this many times before she left, so don't start complaining your General is incompetent when you had a perfect replacement ready and willing ;)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Jeckyl on September 03, 2011, 02:56:40 AM
Trouble was, General was chosen by referendum... Can't force someone to run. You could appoint them if they don't take the initiative to speak up though, provided they haven't hit the refuse button.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Revan on September 03, 2011, 03:26:10 AM
Yep, our General's *brilliant* strategy to sit in the capital while our regions burn didn't work out too well. Now that people are noticing that the recruitment centers disappear when the region goes rogue, it's a little too late.

Ahh, it did look an uncharacteristic collapse. Usually Giblot manages to hold firm at four or so regions and still have reasonable enough strength to survive. Not so rosy this time. I was hoping you'd do better chaps, I really was. Oshan pride is at stake!

After Sera overthrew Thanatos his parting words were something like 'one day I'll bury Giblot for this.' Took five years, but he's only on the blooming verge of doing it. As a player, I'm a little sad about that. I thought Sera had had the last laugh that fateful day, but it looks like Thanatos actually will join Alexander in dancing all over Sera's grave!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 04, 2011, 06:47:04 AM
So...was this an actual plan on the part of the General, or just a general incompetence leading to stagnation?

(Hard to tell the difference between bitterness and sarcasm sometimes ;D )

He claimed that he was protecting the city, that if we want to the field for battle, then Lukon would attack the city. I think it was just cowardice, as Lukon has never made a move on the city.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on September 04, 2011, 07:33:34 AM
Glad I left when I did.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: James on September 04, 2011, 04:17:16 PM
It's never over until it's over. Depends how much politicking is still going on in the background though (is there any? Did seem like they gave up too easily with any discussions when I was ruler of Outer Tilog)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Stue (DC) on September 04, 2011, 10:06:09 PM
giblot was really boring place, with all efforts to stay i could not stand for too long.

nevertheless, the main reason for overall stagnation is likely the fact of notorious gang-bang war.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 04, 2011, 10:51:23 PM
nevertheless, the main reason for overall stagnation is likely the fact of notorious gang-bang war.

Nah, I quite liked the gang-bang war. I just left because of the silence and lack of opportunities for even experienced characters.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Stue (DC) on September 04, 2011, 11:34:56 PM
what did you like with most of continent gathering to create say three times larger force before the attack?

you expect that as an opportunity to show you military competence? i don't know, really,

but yes, direct reason i left is similar to yours.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 05, 2011, 12:09:18 AM
you expect that as an opportunity to show you military competence? i don't know, really,

Yup, worked in Alowca and I loved it. We managed to stay alive for quite a while. If Giblot had been more alive and there had been more room for people to have their input, she'd easily have survived a lot longer than she is doing now.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Revan on September 05, 2011, 03:34:21 AM
'Gang-bang' war is pretty much a way of life on the Colonies. Lukon aside, it's happened to everybody at some point. Being taken to the brink by lots of realms doesn't always mean death like on other continents. The last time Giblot got hit this hard it was after a rebellion that pissed off the powers that be in Lukon. Yet eventually Giblot kissed and made up and ended up taking Outer Tilog's capital for a silly length of time.

I think that's why I am so surprised. I can't decide whether Lukon is simply too powerful now she has three cities at her back or whether this is just woeful incompetence/stagnation at the worst possible time on Giblot's part. I mean, in the non-too distant past I was back in Giblot too and I had a similarly underwhelming experience.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 05, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
I can't decide whether Lukon is simply too powerful now she has three cities at her back or whether this is just woeful incompetence/stagnation at the worst possible time on Giblot's part.

Mostly incompetence. There were plenty of battles that I knew our armies could win, but it'd come down to a bit of luck and decent formations. But the "they have more CS so don't fight them" attitude was banded about by a few nobles and battles never happened. But when you're fighting Lukon, they always have more CS than you, which lead to Giblot's armies sitting in the city and picking off stragglers when Lukon had to go back for gold.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 07, 2011, 01:14:46 AM
Yup, worked in Alowca and I loved it. We managed to stay alive for quite a while. If Giblot had been more alive and there had been more room for people to have their input, she'd easily have survived a lot longer than she is doing now.

Room for more people to have input? I played ruler, judge, and general in Giblot without very much opposition. Will Bell just waited until the very last day of voting to see if someone else would run for Chancellor, and nobody applied--we almost had an anarchy.

The problem is not that people are crowded out. It's that they're not even trying to contribute.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 07, 2011, 01:45:15 AM
Room for more people to have input? I played ruler, judge, and general in Giblot without very much opposition. Will Bell just waited until the very last day of voting to see if someone else would run for Chancellor, and nobody applied--we almost had an anarchy.

The problem is not that people are crowded out. It's that they're not even trying to contribute.

Markus/Lucius not General any more then? They were my character's main problem.

I play her as a military strategist (she was invited to Giblot from Assassins to do exactly that) and it was fine whilst the old General was in charge, Allyah had free reign to do whatever she wanted that followed his orders and I didn't lose a single battle (despite Markus/Lucius crying about terrible strategies). Then one lost battle in Outer Tilog city because of Markus not following orders (admittedly I would be abusing battle mechanics a little there, so probably deserved a loss). Markus (or was it Lucius?) got General, sent very late orders countermanding my previous move orders to kick out Lukon from a region. I argued it was suicide because people wouldn't see the orders. Battle was lost because some people couldn't log in to see the orders and others did - some even ignored them because it was from the General and not the Marshal. 150 gold fine was given to Allyah. She was stripped of her Marshal position and then military strategy was never discussed in public again. Every time I tried to bring it up was met with a "remember what happened last time" or "no, I'm General/Marshal" from Markus/Lucius. Then nobody would give her a knighthood, meaning the fine couldn't be paid off so I couldn't really play the game, so I left.

It all just felt very cliché-y and secretive once Lucius/Markus was made General. Quite a few other people pointed this out to me in private after I had that OOC rant.

If I sound bitter by the way, it's because I am. I enjoyed Giblot, but my fun was shot down in flames by one player on a power trip.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 07, 2011, 04:07:16 AM
Markus/Lucius not General any more then? They were my character's main problem.

I play her as a military strategist (she was invited to Giblot from Assassins to do exactly that) and it was fine whilst the old General was in charge, Allyah had free reign to do whatever she wanted that followed his orders and I didn't lose a single battle (despite Markus/Lucius crying about terrible strategies). Then one lost battle in Outer Tilog city because of Markus not following orders (admittedly I would be abusing battle mechanics a little there, so probably deserved a loss). Markus (or was it Lucius?) got General, sent very late orders countermanding my previous move orders to kick out Lukon from a region. I argued it was suicide because people wouldn't see the orders. Battle was lost because some people couldn't log in to see the orders and others did - some even ignored them because it was from the General and not the Marshal. 150 gold fine was given to Allyah. She was stripped of her Marshal position and then military strategy was never discussed in public again. Every time I tried to bring it up was met with a "remember what happened last time" or "no, I'm General/Marshal" from Markus/Lucius. Then nobody would give her a knighthood, meaning the fine couldn't be paid off so I couldn't really play the game, so I left.

It all just felt very cliché-y and secretive once Lucius/Markus was made General. Quite a few other people pointed this out to me in private after I had that OOC rant.

If I sound bitter by the way, it's because I am. I enjoyed Giblot, but my fun was shot down in flames by one player on a power trip.

I find the Domitas brothers to be extremely annoying. The problem is, nobody is even trying to run against Lucius for General, and until that happens, the judge can't ban him. I suppose I should have played 'rebel judge' and not fined you, but that would be against Gellin's religion, which emphasizes order, etc.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Vaylon Kenadell on September 07, 2011, 06:53:59 AM
I left Giblot and Colonies because I found Markus and Lucius to be extremely annoying characters, and I found their player to be annoying as well. I despise illiterate people.

I'm much happier in Atamara. Well, sort of.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: De-Legro on September 07, 2011, 07:03:25 AM
I left Giblot and Colonies because I found Markus and Lucius to be extremely annoying characters, and I found their player to be annoying as well. I despise illiterate people.

I'm much happier in Atamara. Well, sort of.

illiterate? Or just not a native English speaker.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 07, 2011, 01:30:39 PM
illiterate? Or just not a native English speaker.

Not native English speaker. I'm sure the last time I checked it listed his English skills as "good", but looking now his details are hidden so I can't be certain.

I found it very frustrating having to continually explain things to him only for him to not understand, making it very difficult to debate anything. But there's nothing I can do about that, hence why I didn't mention it before.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Stue (DC) on September 07, 2011, 02:36:21 PM

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It all just felt very cliché-y and secretive once Lucius/Markus was made General. Quite a few other people pointed this out to me in private after I had that OOC rant.

If I sound bitter by the way, it's because I am. I enjoyed Giblot, but my fun was shot down in flames by one player on a power trip.

that was excellent opportunity to conduct and maintain internal political tension, but instaed you went to some ooc fighting, with no any reason to go ooc at all, and everything sank into apathy, which is always consequence of ooc escapades that smash in-game tension.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 07, 2011, 03:01:27 PM
I'm not sure about non-native speaker (user details are private right now) but his main crime is run-on sentences that just go on and on and complain and complain and accuse others of incompetence and use lots of exclamation points and BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS and is just pretty annoying in general and I have seen plenty of native English speakers write like this and it's usually the non-natives that can actually right correctly and I think I have explained the situation pretty well with this long sentence don't you think?
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 07, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
that was excellent opportunity to conduct and maintain internal political tension, but instaed you went to some ooc fighting, with no any reason to go ooc at all, and everything sank into apathy, which is always consequence of ooc escapades that smash in-game tension.

Because I was just annoyed at him. The way I saw it there was no internal tension at all, Allyah was just being blatantly ignored & shouted down. I would have been fine if it was "I'm shouting you down for the sake of gameplay", I had that plenty of times in Lasanar and it was always fun to come fighting back. But this was just "sit down and shut up", which was completely un-fun. I tried pointing it out to him OOC, but by that time I was so pissed off with him and his characters I just wanted to leave Giblot so my ranting came out as exactly that: a rant. If I'd had any public IC support from anyone then it'd probably have softened my anger a little, but I had 2 (I think) people tell me in character that she was the rightful Marshal (both of whom wouldn't speak up publicly because they didn't want a fine) and then 2 (again, I think) other people tell me OOC that they were annoyed too, but didn't want to do anything about it IC (I forget their reasons).

Besides, the apathy was there way before my rant. I'll admit, it probably didn't help things. But Giblot was dead anyway, I probably only hurried along the eventual apathetic destruction.

EDIT:

and use lots of exclamation points and BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS

Oh god, yes, I forgot about that. I tried pointing that out to him in character that he sounded childish. Worked for a while and a lot of people called him a child, but when he didn't change people gave up trying to reason with him.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Beldragos on September 13, 2011, 07:07:44 PM
It happened in Lukon too, I believe Portion, Wetham, and other realms tried that tactic on Lukon when it was a single city realm and now those two cities are part of Lukon.  This just goes to prove if you know what you are doing, just plain lucky or a combination of the two you can come back from the Brink.  Giblot might still have a chance but unless they start to do something right, it will not be much of one.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 13, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
It happened in Lukon too, I believe Portion, Wetham, and other realms tried that tactic on Lukon when it was a single city realm and now those two cities are part of Lukon.  This just goes to prove if you know what you are doing, just plain lucky or a combination of the two you can come back from the Brink.  Giblot might still have a chance but unless they start to do something right, it will not be much of one.

Which of Portion, Wetham, Alebad, and Alowca came back? They are all gone.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Beldragos on September 14, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
My point was to underline that Lukon was ganged up upon at one time and managed to come back. 
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 14, 2011, 04:27:30 PM
My point was to underline that Lukon was ganged up upon at one time and managed to come back.

When was that? The last time that I can recall was some plot between Giblot, Assassins, and Outer Tilog, and in that instance, giblot betrayed OT and attacked their city. And that was somewhere in 2007-2008.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Jeckyl on September 15, 2011, 02:24:55 PM
Which of Portion, Wetham, Alebad, and Alowca came back? They are all gone.

Isn't Alebad back, in the sense it is now a capital city of a realm, formed without the destruction of another?
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 16, 2011, 06:22:42 AM
Isn't Alebad back, in the sense it is now a capital city of a realm, formed without the destruction of another?

Well, Oriolton just declared war on them, so we'll see about that.

I initially thought it was mostly a strategic secession, either for tax reasons, or because it make Lukon nervous for Oriolton to have that many cities. But it appears that the people of MI are a little to...independent of their previous masters.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: James on September 20, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
It seems the Giblet General is doing his best to ensure that the fighting doesn't end until Giblot is no more... Though it is confusing as to why their General is the one trying to negotiate any peace in the first place, and has successfully made matters worse if anything.

(I'm only saying this in the forums now as there has been a bit of a public (IC) 'discussion' between the Giblets and Outer Tilog today :)  )
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 20, 2011, 02:43:36 PM
It seems the Giblet General is doing his best to ensure that the fighting doesn't end until Giblot is no more... Though it is confusing as to why their General is the one trying to negotiate any peace in the first place, and has successfully made matters worse if anything.

(I'm only saying this in the forums now as there has been a bit of a public (IC) 'discussion' between the Giblets and Outer Tilog today :)  )

Yes, I've thought about pointing out to him that attacking people, and negotiating with them at the same time, is probably not going to work. But then Gellin doesn't like Lucius and considers him to be an arrogant prick, so Gellin simply doesn't talk to him more than absolutely necessary. And, Lucius isn't leaving the negotiations to the Ambassadors, so I think that goes both ways.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: James on September 20, 2011, 02:46:17 PM
...I've thought about pointing out to him that attacking people, and negotiating with them at the same time, is probably not going to work...

I have pointed it out to him, on numerous occasions (including just a few minutes ago :) ), but he seems to take no notice. Which is a bit of a problem really as it's me he's trying to negotiate with... ::)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on September 27, 2011, 06:54:37 PM
I don't get what you lot are doing in Giblot, I really don't. Strategically, your General could have took Drenga from the Assassins by himself because we didn't have anything that could've uprooted him within a weeks ride of the region, but paradoxically he gave up on the TO before it had a chance to complete. Things started to slide downhill for you when OT and the Assassins started to take regions on your side of the river, but even then you should have been able to push us out, given the travel times between the Assassin's and OT's core regions and those holdings. Hell, had you taken a more aggressive stance and went after either of us timed between Lukon's visits we might have had to discuss terms. Lukon is slow to move (due to all the old geezers in the ranks ;)), the Assassins and OT are fairly weak individually, Oritolon is distant, MT is of little help, Giblot could've easily taken hold of the north and kept it. Same problem I saw with Alebad when Aramon was a member, everyone went into defensive mode once they saw a few beatings in the field and defense alone just doesn't work, you'll just cut you off from supplies and the attackers will starve you into submission.

As far as Generals being diplomatic, hey, it worked for Vladamire (in fact he at one time held both the posts of Minister of Offense and Ambassador of Outer Tilog at the same time for a long while before Aramon became Shadow Tyrant :p).
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 27, 2011, 07:04:34 PM
I don't get what you lot are doing in Giblot, I really don't. Strategically, your General could have took Drenga from the Assassins by himself because we didn't have anything that could've uprooted him within a weeks ride of the region, but paradoxically he gave up on the TO before it had a chance to complete. Things started to slide downhill for you when OT and the Assassins started to take regions on your side of the river, but even then you should have been able to push us out, given the travel times between the Assassin's and OT's core regions and those holdings. Hell, had you taken a more aggressive stance and went after either of us timed between Lukon's visits we might have had to discuss terms. Lukon is slow to move (due to all the old geezers in the ranks ;)), the Assassins and OT are fairly weak individually, Oritolon is distant, MT is of little help, Giblot could've easily taken hold of the north and kept it. Same problem I saw with Alebad when Aramon was a member, everyone went into defensive mode once they saw a few beatings in the field and defense alone just doesn't work, you'll just cut you off from supplies and the attackers will starve you into submission.

As far as Generals being diplomatic, hey, it worked for Vladamire (in fact he at one time held both the posts of Minister of Offense and Ambassador of Outer Tilog at the same time for a long while before Aramon became Shadow Tyrant :p).

The problem will soon be rectified. Permanently.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 27, 2011, 07:08:18 PM
The problem will soon be rectified. Permanently.

Yeah, Giblot is to finally die out!

Or do you mean you're just going to get rid of the General and appoint someone not afraid to fight back?

It would certainly be a shame to see Giblot go, we need someone to fight Lukon and everyone else is too scared to >.<
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 27, 2011, 07:27:50 PM
Yeah, Giblot is to finally die out!

Or do you mean you're just going to get rid of the General and appoint someone not afraid to fight back?

It would certainly be a shame to see Giblot go, we need someone to fight Lukon and everyone else is too scared to >.<

I'll be elected General in a week or so, with two people I trust as marshal and vice. No more one-man military command.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on September 27, 2011, 08:04:20 PM
I'll be elected General in a week or so, with two people I trust as marshal and vice. No more one-man military command.

Glad to hear! Hopefully you can come back from the brink now.

I'm sure if you say nice things to Allyah, she'll give you some advice about beating Lukon (presuming she's still on your contacts list after this long) :P
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on September 27, 2011, 10:23:35 PM
Glad to hear! Hopefully you can come back from the brink now.

I'm sure if you say nice things to Allyah, she'll give you some advice about beating Lukon (presuming she's still on your contacts list after this long) :P

I don't think people ever drop off the contacts list.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on October 19, 2011, 09:01:19 AM
Well, Oriolton just declared war on them, so we'll see about that.

I initially thought it was mostly a strategic secession, either for tax reasons, or because it make Lukon nervous for Oriolton to have that many cities. But it appears that the people of MI are a little to...independent of their previous masters.
Yes, so it is goodbye Minas Thalion eh with Lukon participation? Oritolon is not really strong with so many cities, it is less nobles which is causing a terrible headache. I can't be complaining either, aren't we all realms having same problem? Colonies is having serious lack of nobles, many estates started to falling apart.

Giblot would not die no matter how incompetence their leaders are or what strategy they used. With Lukon and Oritolon attention diverted to Oritolon war with Minas Thalion, Giblot should use this well-deserved time break to rebuild fast. Get your house in order, I always see the north Giblot region, forget what its name, that region gone rogue many times.

@Jeckyl, perhaps you can help in the Giblot survival.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on October 19, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Yes, so it is goodbye Minas Thalion eh with Lukon participation? Oritolon is not really strong with so many cities, it is less nobles which is causing a terrible headache. I can't be complaining either, aren't we all realms having same problem? Colonies is having serious lack of nobles, many estates started to falling apart.

Giblot would not die no matter how incompetence their leaders are or what strategy they used. With Lukon and Oritolon attention diverted to Oritolon war with Minas Thalion, Giblot should use this well-deserved time break to rebuild fast. Get your house in order, I always see the north Giblot region, forget what its name, that region gone rogue many times.

@Jeckyl, perhaps you can help in the Giblot survival.

We've recaptured 2 regions already. The new estate code is going to help Giblot and Oriolton a lot, I think.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on October 20, 2011, 04:12:24 AM
We've recaptured 2 regions already. The new estate code is going to help Giblot and Oriolton a lot, I think.
Yeah, I am hoping the new estate code will help all realms, especially realms having problem maintaining their regions with lack of nobles  ::) Glad to see you recaptured 2 regions already. Perhaps a strong headed Giblot General who dare to come out from the city to launch attack on other realm city, will be a much welcome addition. By the way, no offense intended. Giblot should really work on the Diplomacy side and Treaties part. Seeing all other realms dare not mess with Lukon-Oritolon alliance and Giblot has the will to stand against them. I am considering Lukon Judge, Blackbeard words that they Lukon are waiting for enemy to come to Portion city gate but so far, not a single soldier show up. With new alliance sealed, Giblot may yet see the light of the day.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Valast on October 22, 2011, 12:57:53 AM
Ha!  Lukon will kill you all...fools... muwahaahaaaa

um by kill i mean invite you to a nice little party with ale and crackers...oh and cheese...

and by cheese I mean KILL YOU ALL!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Beldragos on October 22, 2011, 09:58:10 AM
It is not only the Colonies who is having trouble with not enough Nobles, I know the same problem has been in Dwilight for some time. 

Think of the slaughters we all could have if we had the men to take over other Realms...  The RPing options wasted because not enough players , it is sad.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on October 24, 2011, 04:05:05 AM
Ha!  Lukon will kill you all...fools... muwahaahaaaa

um by kill i mean invite you to a nice little party with ale and crackers...oh and cheese...

and by cheese I mean KILL YOU ALL!
Are you the one who play Valast, previous Lukon King?  :o Lukon is the big brother in Colonies and it looks like this will remain for at least sometime in foreseen future  :-\ If only we could make things more interesting.

It is not only the Colonies who is having trouble with not enough Nobles, I know the same problem has been in Dwilight for some time. 

Think of the slaughters we all could have if we had the men to take over other Realms...  The RPing options wasted because not enough players , it is sad.
The honor and prestige stuff is troubling me and my sanity. With so few players to recruit so few men, every realm is dying from lack of noble. Soon we will have Lich King risen from dead and tormented us without us replying him with a good army force  ;D
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Valast on October 25, 2011, 12:18:41 AM
Ya Ketchum thats me.

I have been helping to make things interesting for a while tho.  I mean Val held back the Lukon horde for a long time before and after the priestly realms fell.  Now that he died, I have two in the colonies again...one helping Lukon and one trying to bring Lukon down.

It may end up that the colonies will need the Lich King to come out of hidding soon... put the entire island on a "you may die here" setting and see what happens.

To be honest...I have wanted the Lich King to come back for a long time.  That was fun and interesting
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on October 25, 2011, 04:14:17 AM
Yes, same thing here too. I try make things interesting, offer my opinion in numerous topics in the council even those unwarranted comments and feedbacks. Am thinking of making Ash annoying everyone in Colonies but then again, he is unlike my other character who have destroyed every noble Unique Items on East Island, got beaten up until half dead, thrown into own realm prison countless times. Most important of all, I have created Ash as an honorable guy who refused to be bad, when needs to be bad guy to wield his big Axe as Judge on those who break the realm laws, Ash will still give them a chance to repent  :)

On a personal note, I havent see Lich King, and from the many feedbacks I gathered, he is a tough dude. Sitting in Arak Castle or something like that, another region cutoff from Colonies island. I really would like to see him before my characters die of old age or war  ::)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Valast on October 25, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
Just remember to always be true to the character you created.  Do that and there will be no regrets.

As for the Lich King... his marching down to defend OT against Lukon and Giblot was a major event in Valasts life.  It is all epic old story now of course...becoming myth... but for Val he wanted to to happen again.  That is why he began his quest to take over the colonies... to force the Lich King to return.

That was his most epic battle... and he wanted to die in another battle just as great.  Instead, he was killed in a small skirmish in some backwater region.  Epic in its own way...such a simple death to a great and powerful man...epic in its simple nature and its reminder to us all that power does not overcome humanity... wealth does not beat death...

Now his children fight... one for keeping Lukon strong one to bring it down.  And the Lich king... laughs.


Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on October 26, 2011, 05:38:33 AM
I would love an invasion of the colonies, that would be more interesting than the past 2 years, probably.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Valast on October 26, 2011, 05:48:33 AM
Totally... if done right

The colonies deserve it to be the Lich King for sure... and perhaps something from the island to the south.  I would enjoy it for sure.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on October 26, 2011, 06:11:25 AM
Lendan stones!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Valast on October 26, 2011, 04:32:14 PM
Ahh yes.  Perhaps a battle between forces of light and dark.... with the human population stuck in the middle to defend ourselves.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on October 27, 2011, 03:31:04 AM
Aye, Valast, let that be true.

Regarding Giblot, is it still alive? It seems war in the north stopped in time to witness war in the south.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on October 27, 2011, 08:16:30 PM
Aye, Valast, let that be true.

Regarding Giblot, is it still alive? It seems war in the north stopped in time to witness war in the south.

We're alive, if a little hungry, and the stupid peasants of Wirkfyr revolted on us
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on October 28, 2011, 08:34:53 AM
The peasants are always thinking independent, independent. Yes, I see got 1 region just revolted from Giblot. You know, it is funny seeing the rest of the realms ganged up on Giblot in gangbang war, then watching Giblot has not die. Then suddenly Giblot looks like tearing themselves apart from the inside. I hear rumor of malcontent between the elites of Giblot, between 2 individuals...  ???
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on October 28, 2011, 12:16:41 PM
The peasants are always thinking independent, independent. Yes, I see got 1 region just revolted from Giblot. You know, it is funny seeing the rest of the realms ganged up on Giblot in gangbang war, then watching Giblot has not die. Then suddenly Giblot looks like tearing themselves apart from the inside. I hear rumor of malcontent between the elites of Giblot, between 2 individuals...  ???

Lucius and Markus are on my ignore list, the only characters/family I have ever used the ignore list for, and I must say, I have enjoyed playing a lot more since I put them on ignore. I think all 'trouble' in the realm revolves around the Dominitas family--just look at the ban history.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Nathan on October 28, 2011, 03:55:11 PM
I think all 'trouble' in the realm revolves around the Dominitas family--just look at the ban history.

*whistles quietly, which totally isn't in a "I told you so" matter*
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on November 01, 2011, 09:32:14 AM
It kinda pity if the whole Giblot realm suffers just because of 2 individuals fighting. Lucius not really popular when he was Ambassador, a lot of people I know, do not wish to deal with him. They like Gellin more as Ambassador than Lucius it seems  ;D

Hope Giblot can pick themselves up and be ready for next possible gangbang war. At one point in the past when Ash was Ruler, Assassins Dictator/Ruler wish to have a peaceful relations with Giblot. Until something bad happened to him, that is  :o
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on November 01, 2011, 07:39:25 PM
It kinda pity if the whole Giblot realm suffers just because of 2 individuals fighting. Lucius not really popular when he was Ambassador, a lot of people I know, do not wish to deal with him. They like Gellin more as Ambassador than Lucius it seems  ;D

Hope Giblot can pick themselves up and be ready for next possible gangbang war. At one point in the past when Ash was Ruler, Assassins Dictator/Ruler wish to have a peaceful relations with Giblot. Until something bad happened to him, that is  :o

I'm not fighting the Dominitas--I just had someone send Gellin a letter saying "You better run for General again." The entire realm is tired of them, I think--at least more tired than they are of me  ::) I'm ignoring Dominitas, and preventing them from ruining Giblot, but in a passive manner. I honestly don't see why they don't go join another realm.

I gave them plenty of chances--I'm the one that sent them of as Ambassador, for example. They've ruined ever chance they've had, so as far as I'm concerned, they aren't getting any more.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on November 14, 2011, 09:34:47 AM
Gib get Assassins on your side and let them hit OT from one side and Giblot on the other side. And OT holding out with occasional Lukon help. Now that will make quite a show  ::)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on November 14, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
Well, yeah, we'd like that.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on November 15, 2011, 04:04:19 AM
Now we need some people plotting to do that  ;)

Sometime I think being Ambassador is pretty useless. The saying "Pen is mightier than a sword" does not ring right in certain cases. Well, being Ambassador allows you to contact nobles from other realms who are also Ambassadors and Rulers. If nobody talking as IC messaging each other, the world island will be much pretty dead wood.

I see Gib lose and regain region again. Hoping for the new estate code to implement soon in Colonies. By the way, I very much appreciate the willingness of Gib to stand up against the might of Lukon or OT. This is not something that happened overnight without much consideration.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Somra on December 06, 2011, 07:52:15 PM
Giblot did come out of her fugue state to kick some ass, back at the time of the formation of and early days of the Liberty Party/taking of OTC. Then our best (and most active) players started losing access to the game, and a domino effect took it down.
It's a shame, Giblot is actually a remarkable nation. While not as colorful from a modern view-point as the other nations of the Colonies, Giblot has held to idealisms and freedoms that are unusual in the modern day, much less in Battlemaster context. It's certainly something that could only have come about in freedom of the Colonies.

And Giblot has had its share fair of remarkable players, and involved RPs.

And now they've got the extra joy of the challenge of coming out of a low point?

So, this says to me..
It's time to bring Giblot back to glory.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Valast on December 07, 2011, 02:25:51 AM
Giblot started out as a mix of OT and um..Wetham I suppose...  honor and darkness
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on January 15, 2012, 04:40:04 AM
I fear Giblot going be alive and half dying in the coming few months. As Tom has reduced the travel time from region to region, war is coming fast and furious. Many more battles going coming fast and thick in action, maybe too rapid for Giblot to recover its strength after battle. Maybe I am wrong, seeing that I am not in Giblot to assess the true impact of Tom implemented change in reducing road travel. Hmm...  ;)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on January 15, 2012, 07:17:20 AM
I fear Giblot going be alive and half dying in the coming few months. As Tom has reduced the travel time from region to region, war is coming fast and furious. Many more battles going coming fast and thick in action, maybe too rapid for Giblot to recover its strength after battle. Maybe I am wrong, seeing that I am not in Giblot to assess the true impact of Tom implemented change in reducing road travel. Hmm...  ;)

Well, Outer Tilog lost Rollsovar today. Travel times also make it easier for Giblot to strike its enemies.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Psyche on January 16, 2012, 06:18:23 PM
If anything it makes it easier for Giblot to harass invaders coming through still longer routes.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Will Bell on January 24, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
For those keeping tabs on Giblot and are waiting for the right time to return Markus and Lucius have been dealt with.  I exiled them both which lead to Markus attempting to take my toons life.  To bad for him that my guards are always on the look out for such attacks.  Lucius is still there and from time to time speaks of how I am a tyrant, that plus his daily protest is all he does now.  I do wish I had just let the judge ban them both but I had had more than enough and exiled them.

So is Giblot Dead or Alive?  Only time will tell, I'm not running again for Ruler or any political office, so it will be up to those that take my place to do the job.

To jump back a bit, I've always been very quite in the game.  Never really got into the writing of wonderful RP, and with the war and the mass exodus from Giblot, I don't see now as a time I'll start.  But Giblot could be the Colonies RP Center, all it would take is RPers filling its ranks.  Stepping forward to carry the mantle.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on January 25, 2012, 07:40:58 PM
The MONKEY KING(!!...?) of the Colonies has come to grace Giblot with its presence (Only male as genderless was not an option when creating a character)!!!

/me puts on his best Bowie/Armstrong/...well those were the only two Ironsides I've known and both were pretty melodramatic and bombastic... impression.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! The Bananas are Doomed!!...?!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on January 25, 2012, 08:42:36 PM
Run, Will, Run!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Revan on February 11, 2012, 11:09:28 PM
For those keeping tabs on Giblot and are waiting for the right time to return Markus and Lucius have been dealt with.  I exiled them both

Quote from:  Newsticker
Ruler Elected   (2012-02-05 06:18:21)
The realm of Giblot has elected Lucius Domitius as its Chancellor.He received 14% of the valid votes cast.

Ruler Elected   (2012-02-09 06:17:26)
The realm of Giblot has elected Lucius Domitius as its Chancellor.He received 7% of the valid votes cast.

Heh, he's just not getting the hint is he? ;-) Out of interest, what happens if you're exiled and then become ruler of your realm? Does that remove your exile status or what?
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Will Bell on February 12, 2012, 01:12:05 AM
Your exile is over the moment the ruler steps down or is not reelected.

So yeah, when I didn't run again Lucius won with very few votes...
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on February 13, 2012, 04:41:08 AM
Giblot, please don't die just yet. Let my character Ash the Ambassador visit you all first and see the wonderful sight and sounds before he dies of old age  8)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Revan on March 19, 2012, 02:11:43 PM
Oh, hey now. Lucius has chosen the white tree of...Old Rancagua for Giblot's new realm banner. Sacrilege!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: James on June 09, 2012, 09:47:12 AM
Well, Giblot has no regions and just one noble left (a noble that was recently captured by us and sent me a letter demanding release because he was King of Giblot, which did make me chuckle).

However, Giblot now flies the Thumbscrew banner, and in the election for its Margrave, we currently have 15 nobles who have announced their running!
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on June 09, 2012, 07:23:07 PM
Well, Giblot has no regions and just one noble left (a noble that was recently captured by us and sent me a letter demanding release because he was King of Giblot, which did make me chuckle).

However, Giblot now flies the Thumbscrew banner, and in the election for its Margrave, we currently have 15 nobles who have announced their running!

What? the guy who got onto me for 'ruining the democracy of Giblot' for holding a referendum to see if elections should take place every month or every quarter, has proclaimed himself King?
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: steelabjur@aol.com on June 13, 2012, 12:37:42 PM
I think it was Markus (or whichever) who transformed Giblot into a Monarchy, with Blackie Questor now the current King (and only noble) via the last election.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: egamma on June 13, 2012, 02:57:52 PM
I think it was Markus (or whichever) who transformed Giblot into a Monarchy, with Blackie Questor now the current King (and only noble) via the last election.

Ah. still, it was the Dominitas brothers (Lucius/Marcus) that were complaining about the threats to democracy.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on June 20, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
Well, Giblot has no regions and just one noble left (a noble that was recently captured by us and sent me a letter demanding release because he was King of Giblot, which did make me chuckle).

However, Giblot now flies the Thumbscrew banner, and in the election for its Margrave, we currently have 15 nobles who have announced their running!
The last King of Gondor, ops, Giblot... Well, Giblot city has been successfully TO by Outer Tilog. That's the end of Giblot.

15 nobles running for Margrave? That's insane! :P
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: James on June 20, 2012, 06:49:26 PM
15 nobles running for Margrave? That's insane! :P

We peaked at 17 in the end before the vote was taken :)

Then held the city for about 2 days before it went rogue again...  :-[
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Ketchum on June 25, 2012, 03:54:20 AM
We peaked at 17 in the end before the vote was taken :)

Then held the city for about 2 days before it went rogue again...  :-[
Seems like ripe time for a new Duke of Giblot city to secede and make a new Giblot realm ;)
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: Psyche on June 25, 2012, 05:25:11 AM
I don't think he is a duke.  The Duchy of Giblot is without a region, I believe.   However,  it WOULD be interesting if the region joined the duchy of Koolaris in Minas Thalion, giving them a city to base from.
Title: Re: Giblot: Dead or Alive?
Post by: feyeleanor on June 25, 2012, 02:12:02 PM
Cathal however is doing his best to avoid that. Drenga's going to be the perfect spot from which to watch the war between Lukon and everyone else :)