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BattleMaster => BM General Discussion => Topic started by: Bedwyr on March 09, 2011, 05:19:18 AM
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Now, clearly, characters are more complicated than standard D&D alignment systems, but I'd be interested in seeing how people view their own characters' alignments. So, for me...
Rhennthyl is a little uncertain in my head at this point, can't really say.
Lucator is very new, but I'm guessing chaotic evil.
Malcolm is my most complicated character, he was (and is) highly selfish, but very much interested in the long-term game so played at being highly honorable with some success. Nowadays...His selfishness is somewhat tempered by a couple of events that shook him out of it. Not sure how unselfish he might become.
Koli is Lawful neutral with a few evil tendencies. Very much a controlling man.
Jenred...Is neutral crazy. He thinks he's good (hell, he thinks he's a Paladin fulfilling the will of his goddess and leading the Far East into a new golden age) but he is psychotically obsessed with his wife to the point where if she were killed I think he'd quite happily burn down the entire continent to make a pyre worthy of her.
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Aelfwine is Lawful Good. I cannot see him betraying either his own set of morals or anyone he owes loyalty to.
Caim seems to be tending towards either Lawful Evil or Neutral Evil... largely because he doesn't see anything wrong in manipulating things to his own advantage, even if he's convinced its just a case of being particularly virulent in his persuit of Chaotic Good....
Celyn is... Lawful Neutral.
Rickhart is neutral Good.
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Santiago is definitely Chaotic Neutral - he has little regard for the hierarchy, is mostly working towards his own ends and tends to be a bit unorthodox in achieving them
Juan is Chaotic Good - He strives to see whatever realm he is in prosper and grow, but also tries to ensure that the freedom granted to all levels of the realm are protected.
Carlos is a bit difficult. He cares little for the games and wars of the realms, save that everyones behaviour is honourable. Course he only really considers his definition of honourable, but that is hardly a rare thing. Probably Lawful Neutral
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Maru is a spiteful bastard. Makes very apt analyses of other characters but if\s a weak person himself with no real integrity.
Keannji. Light shines out of his arse, if he found a wounded frog he'd probably nurse it back to health. Some people claim he is gay. He often misses the bigger picture.
Shin is a realistic guy, quite smart. He is still trying to find what he wants in life. He has strong feelings of companionship but is not extremely concerned with the overall good of anybody.
Onari follows the old Shenron tradition. He likes to duel people. Likes to smote the 'dishonourable'. Not a very strong thinker.
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I'd say Alpha fits well into lawful neutral.
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I am not terribly familiar with the D&D system, but I do like categorizing my people and find that giving them different alignments allows me to differentiate them a bit better when RPing.
Moria is a definite lawful good, but cares for people above laws when the two conflict. She is my only female character and is therefore rather caring and compassionate.
I actually searched for a long time to find the name Merodak, and then I think I changed it around a bit. But it is derived from a truly vile god from the Middle East and I try and live up to that with him. He is Neutral Evil and really just wants to kill everyone and everything.
Ulrich is essentially chaotic neutral. He has no respect for the law and just does what he wants, but there really isn't any evil in him just youthful exuberance and rebellion.
Lastly, Moritz is probably the hardest to classify as he is quite close to true neutral (making him a damn good politician ;) ). He is a schemer, and quite power hungry. The good he displays is for the sake of his desires, but they aren't evil as much as selfish. As time progresses he is also getting a bit quirky.
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I'm not very experienced with the D&D alignment system, so I'm basing this on the wikipedia entry for it.
Noah - Neutral Evil. He really cares only about himself, and concepts like loyalty and honor are only useful as long as they benefit him. He changed his allegiance to a lord offering 700 gold for a new knight, then took off with the gold as soon as he could. He'll try to kill anyone who offends him in any way, whether they are allies, enemies or neutral doesn't matter.
Roderic - Lawful Neutral. He has a strong sense of duty, loyalty and honor. He will follow his superior's orders without fail, putting his personal feelings aside in all but the most extreme cases.
Amaury - Used to be Lawful Neutral until he started going against his superiors. Now I'm not so sure. I guess Neutral/Chaotic Good comes closest to describing him.
Bruyant - Undecided... He's a fairly new character, and I'm still thinking about what I want to do with him.
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My family wiki page lists just about everyone's alignments as well as how they have changed due to different experiences, if at all.
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Artemesia_Family (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Artemesia_Family)
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For my dead/retired characters:
Jean-Olivier: Lawful evil
Lyse: Neutral
Louis-Joseph: Neutral evil
Nicolas: Lawful evil
All of my "evil" characters were the epitome of good and piety in their own minds, though. They just tend to view that the ends justify the means.
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Altair: Lawful Good (all praise The Four!)
Thomas: Neutral Good
Remi: Lawful Evil
Malus: Lawful Neutral
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The D&D alignment system is a good tool but characters can and do change over time, in fact that movement from one alignment to another can be a good way to make a character interesting and how susceptible to such movement a character is can be an important trait to consider when creating them.
For example, Janna is quite susceptible to alignment change and has been chaotic neutral, chaotic good, lawful neutral and lawful good depending on how events in her life have affected her but Severn is quite rigid and has consistently been lawful good.
It takes a lot more than alignment to create a rounded character, though.
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The D&D alignment system is a good tool but characters can and do change over time, in fact that movement from one alignment to another can be a good way to make a character interesting and how susceptible to such movement a character is can be an important trait to consider when creating them.
For example, Janna is quite susceptible to alignment change and has been chaotic neutral, chaotic good, lawful neutral and lawful good depending on how events in her life have affected her but Severn is quite rigid and has consistently been lawful good.
It takes a lot more than alignment to create a rounded character, though.
Hence why I personally only posted dead or retired characters. Jean-Olivier started as Lawful Good, Louis-Joseph as Neutral, Lyse as Chaotic Neutral, Nicolas as Lawful Neutral.
I suppose all the others are just saying how their characters are currently, though, and not necessarily how they have always been and always will be.
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I've thought those alignments were more a reflection of how others would observe the character as a summary of the trends his actions followed. They are not, in my mind, some metaphysical guide that leads them to do certain actions.
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At present:
Hireshmont II: Lawful good or lawful neutral- H2 is definitely lawful. He's kind of hyper-lawful in fact. However, a few recent developments challenged that, but he is still generally lawful. I think lawful good fits him pretty well (though some, like Vesna Valentine, would label him lawful evil, I suspect)
Komnogar Vellos: Not yet very developed here, but I'm thinking he will be chaotic good. Honestly he's just racking up honor and prestige right now fighting the Cagilans.
Cyrilos Vellos: Crazy. Religious fanatic, thinks he's a prophet... I'm going to go with chaotic neutral.
Onamont: Lawful good. Terrified of nobles, submissive and obedient, loves killing monsters.
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At present:
Hireshmont II: Lawful good or lawful neutral- H2 is definitely lawful. He's kind of hyper-lawful in fact. However, a few recent developments challenged that, but he is still generally lawful. I think lawful good fits him pretty well (though some, like Vesna Valentine, would label him lawful evil, I suspect)
Isn't Vesna Valentine chaotic evil anyway? Maybe neutral evil or something. He tried to use daimons to get revenge or something on Madina. :o A bit strange...but eh, what can you do about that.
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Isn't Vesna Valentine chaotic evil anyway? Maybe neutral evil or something. He tried to use daimons to get revenge or something on Madina. :o A bit strange...but eh, what can you do about that.
Yes. He is basically evil, dunno whether lawful or chaotic. And yes, he does have a bad habit of trying to get revenge on people, and failing.
Though he did steal, what, 1800 gold from the Zuma?
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Yes. He is basically evil, dunno whether lawful or chaotic. And yes, he does have a bad habit of trying to get revenge on people, and failing.
Though he did steal, what, 1800 gold from the Zuma?
He stole some more after he got banned, but that's about right. He supposedly gave it to Terran though to fight Madina or something. Hm, wait a minute...Vellos is that dude in Terran...hmmm...
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He is basically evil, dunno whether lawful or chaotic.
And paranoid. Don't forget extremely paranoid.
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And paranoid. Don't forget extremely paranoid.
And megalomaniac. Don't forget the ego.
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He stole some more after he got banned, but that's about right. He supposedly gave it to Terran though to fight Madina or something. Hm, wait a minute...Vellos is that dude in Terran...hmmm...
No, he did not give it to Terran. We told him not to give it to us because we knew it would cause problems with the Zuma. So he dumped it in the Dwilight Trade Company, and it has been slowly taxed into oblivion. Admittedly, taxed within Terranian jurisdiction: but it was so much gold that even I, as an elder, had no way of retrieving it all.
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Elk is lawful good....overly so at times according to his uncle, and while perhaps perceived as rather staid and obsessed with duty by those who don't know him, he's exactly the opposite with friends and good companions.
The only "demons" you could describe him as having, (apart from being saddled with Tor as his uncle) are those caused when his strict code of chivalry sometimes collides with his likewise strict sense of duty.
Tor is neutral good (but with a tendency for a lapse into neutral very very occasionally.)
He started became rather "Conan the barbarianish" in nature almost straight after I created him somwhow or other, and to this day don't know how it happened ???
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Could the OP or someone clarify what the possible ones are? :D
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Could the OP or someone clarify what the possible ones are? :D
Well, standard D&D spectrum is a two-dimensional axis, with one axis being Good-Neutral-Evil and the other being Lawful-Neutral-Chaotic. But, that's an abstraction of a variety of things, and more full explanations are welcomed.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)
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http://easydamus.com/alignment.html (http://easydamus.com/alignment.html)
They also have a quiz to test your alignment. Yay!
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Looks great, thanks guys! I'll read those through sometimes, though I bet all my chars fit into one. :( I have to be more creative...
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Ciann is Lawful Evil (really more lawful then evil though)
Widden is True Neutral
Solips is Chaotic Neutral
Gog is Chaotic Evil
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I'd say Ender is certainly Chaotic Evil at this point. Cid, according to the wikipedia descriptions of alignments, was probably Chaotic Neutral most of the time due to his willingness to do what he believed was right against previously established laws or rules.
Weland for the most part was probably Lawful Good and I'd say I usually play Corin as Neutral Good. Edmund is probably Lawful Good right now, though I dont think I've played him long enough to really get a feel for what I want out of him. His wife, Letta, is certainly Lawful Good.
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Gellin is Lawful Good
Gill is Lawful Good
Gornak is Chaotic Neutral (trader, out for the money)
Gundelle is lawful neutral, I haven't done much for her--she's my fighters, so she follows orders. I initially wanted her to become my first judge character, but it doesn't seem like she'll have that chance in Darka anytime soon.
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Relkin has been either Lawful Neutral or Lawful Good.
Yorick is Neutral Good. Almost had him turn evil but didn't have the time to do the necessary roleplay to flesh it out. But, hes a bit fragile, if he lives til the next invasion on Beluaterra he might fall apart and bacome evil.
Roxas is Chaotic Good.
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Well for the Relak's
Nerol - The first king of Perdan and the dead King of Oligarch - It was erm a decade ago, but he's probably closer to Lawful Neutral.
Lelnor - Legendary King of ASI - Lawful Good. He never could be anything but an honorable guy.
Gregor - Living Lich - Chaotic/True Neutral. He'll double-cross you if he hates you, he'll be your most loyal friend if he likes you. He mostly keeps his word, but he's been known to lie to get what he wants or to eliminate a political foe or potential troublemaker.
Boeth - Emperor of The Protectorate, King of Hasland - Lawful Neutral. He stuck by his agreements, but he wasn't above a bit of underhandedness. See takeover of Barony Sale and Barony of Icegate.
Serko - Outcast and Madman - Neutral Evil - He's recently gone through some serious changes, but on the whole he's driven by revenge against those who slighted him. He likes power and money, and does all that he can to not take sides. But he'll do anything to get power, even if it means purchasing the title to a capital city, assasinating the King so that he can elect himself (yes that happened, he was the only one who voted and he won)
Nerol - Prophet of Magnus - Neutral Good - He'd break the law if it meant serving his god, but generally speaking he was never really selfish.
Giselle - The Doubly Royal - Chaotic Neutral - She's a lot like her father, but with different priorities. Mercurial might be the best description of her.
Espen - The Scion of Hasland - True Neutral - At the moment he hasn't stood out as a character.
Other minor characters - They were all closer to True Neutral, some more chaotic than others. Most didn't live more than a few months really.
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Markus: Lawful Evil. Mental decay and a prison stay in Westmoor have affected his temperment so he is willing to do anything to keep the status quo. Namely, those who give him funds continue to do so, and his power base continues to grow. I say Lawful, because he has a code of honour, albeit twisted and darkened from the norm.
Woelfen: Lawful Neutral. Good and Evil mean nothing to Woelfen, they are just words denoting the way people view the actions of others. Upholding the Law and the idea of personal freedom are all he cares about on a personal level.
Berwin: Either Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral, still really young. So far he's courteous and kind to most people. He's a bit of a dreamer, and as such, tends to shy away from most sources of Law and Order. It's hard to dream with a legal code holding you down!
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Delicia is too old to care about anything, so I'd say neutral neutral. Perhaps it's time for her to retire.
Randwulf is Chaotic Good. Well, maybe he's really Neutral Good. He was Chaotic in PeL, because it's difficult to be lawful when the Queen is not only evil but also an Anaris. :-P I think he'll be more lawful in Barca.
Brenda started as Lawful Good. I think she moved towards Neutral Good during Galiard's rule, but maybe she'll get back to Lawful if Joseph wins next elections. Or perhaps she'll turn totally neutral.
Ortisia is true Neutral, perhaps she's becoming more lawful and a little bit evil.
And I took the alignment test and it seems that my real life persona is chaotic neutral. I thought I was good. (At least I didn't score any evil points, I'm just more neutral than good.)