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Title: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Norrel on January 18, 2012, 08:15:36 AM
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Halls_of_Luria_News
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Arundel on January 18, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Should be noted that this all took place over the span of 2 days, 7 hours :o.......
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Post by: Norrel on January 18, 2012, 08:34:01 AM
Should be noted that this all took place over the span of 2 days, 7 hours :o.......
at 225 messages total that means 4.1 messages per hour
wut
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on January 18, 2012, 01:19:30 PM
lolol it could be part of Koli's "plan" (Hey I noticed that the only Bedwyrs my characters ever heard of were crazy: Jenred of FEI and Koli of Dwi.)

Remember how Allison did that troll secession that got Caerwyn to take the bait and declare war and then get roflpwned? Maybe Koli is trying that with...er...well, I dunno who gives enough of a crap to declare war on them.
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Post by: Shizzle on January 18, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
Solaria and PeL are at war now.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on January 18, 2012, 01:55:06 PM
Yeah, and there are a ton of New Luria Novas.

6, to be exact.
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Post by: Lorgan on January 18, 2012, 05:17:28 PM
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THIS IS ALL OOC. I mostly put up all this stuff so that people who weren't in the Halls of Luria at the time could still read through all the crap

That's very kind of you... Do you also have something for people who /are/ in the Halls of Luria but /don't/ want to read through all that crap?  ::)
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Post by: Geronus on January 18, 2012, 05:28:46 PM
The best part of all of this is that it appears to have been started by a Morekian infiltrator.
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Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on January 18, 2012, 05:32:30 PM
...Are we sure this isn't a plot by Koli to get the daimons off guard and trying to strike while the hammer is cold to I have no idea what I am writing anymore.
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Post by: Indirik on January 18, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
That's very kind of you... Do you also have something for people who /are/ in the Halls of Luria but /don't/ want to read through all that crap?  ::)
Did you miss the summary at the bottom?
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tl;dr it hits the fan, people are probably going to start dropping like flies
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 18, 2012, 08:08:15 PM
...Are we sure this isn't a plot by Koli to get the daimons off guard and trying to strike while the hammer is cold to I have no idea what I am writing anymore.

Of course the Zuma ambassador would come up with a plan like that:

Let's poison myself, have ppl declare war on me, then we will defeat the Daimons!
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Post by: Indirik on January 18, 2012, 08:49:42 PM
It's such a devious and cunning plan...
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Post by: Lorgan on January 18, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
Did you miss the summary at the bottom?

Nah... (well yes actually, but that's not the point :P) I know what's going on, I just tire of fishing for important letters in between the many many letters.

Not that I disapprove of the discussion, it's good to see people care, I just don't on this particular subject.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Norrel on January 18, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
Nah... (well yes actually, but that's not the point :P) I know what's going on, I just tire of fishing for important letters in between the many many letters.

Not that I disapprove of the discussion, it's good to see people care, I just don't on this particular subject.
As a general rule, everything that isn't sent by a council member or a Duke is basically just needless posturing.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: ^ban^ on January 18, 2012, 09:15:04 PM
I shamelessly and nationalistically point out that this is the best letter in the bunch:

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Roleplay from Hrok Stefanovic (2 days, 7 hours ago)
Message sent to everyone in "Halls of Luria" (31 recipients)

"...we have other potential threats to face. Peeved, Ramiel Avis." The scribe was understandably uneasy after delivering the letter. The Duke's countenance did not ease that feeling. The ending of the letter had been like the opening wind of a storm.

For a moment all was quiet. With the Duke's face set hard and his court giving nervous-yet-meaningful glances to one another, all present waited with baited breath.
The moment passed. Inhaling deeply, Hrok began to speak with a whisper. "He would dare talk to me of other threats?" Rising from his throne, the Solarian duke grasped the weathered axe at his side and began to finger the edge. "He would preach to me of his worthless gods, of honor and nobility?"

In quiet rage the duke continued. "He would dare speak of these things to me?! Well then, messenger," shouting now as he stepped from his throne towards the messenger, "this is a most unfortunate day for you." The scribe fell on the first swing, his hamstring severed by the axe. On the second, he lost the leg.

As the southern messenger screamed in pain, the duke took hold of the severed leg with his free hand before pointing the blade of his axe in the messenger's face. "Now, stop your blathering. You are going to deliver one more message for me. You are going to return to that southern cur and tell him that I name him liar, betrayer, and seditionist. Then, you will find his duke, Brom, and you will tell his duke that I name him liar, betrayer, and scum among nobility. Then, you will find his king, and you will tell his king that I name him less than the scum that will gather on this leg as it rots. They have aided those that stole from and betrayed me, and in doing so have themselves stolen and betrayed me. They have made thinly veiled threats against me and mine and those I protect. They are unfit to name themselves nobles, and I challenge them to find the men willing to defend them against these claims. Let them come."
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Lorgan on January 18, 2012, 09:17:13 PM
As a general rule, everything that isn't sent by a council member or a Duke is basically just needless posturing.

Heh. I wouldn't go that far... :P I like me some silly banter for example, but once the discussion goes down insult boulevard, and I'm not the one insulted, I can't be bothered anymore.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Norrel on January 18, 2012, 09:32:21 PM
I shamelessly and nationalistically point out that this is the best letter in the bunch:
That's not a letter, so obviously my letter was the best one.  8)
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 19, 2012, 04:17:22 AM
That's not a letter, so obviously my letter was the best one.  8)

The best letter is one that has yet to be sent and it won't be sent to the Halls of Luria anyway.

These are just "good" so far.
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Post by: De-Legro on January 19, 2012, 04:19:08 AM
The best letter is one that has yet to be sent and it won't be sent to the Halls of Luria anyway.

These are just "good" so far.

I've already written the best letter, it is unbeatable, but I only sent it to the local squirrels.
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Post by: Vellos on January 19, 2012, 04:40:18 AM
I'm enjoying the fireworks from afar.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 19, 2012, 04:41:12 AM
I'm enjoying the fireworks from afar.

I'm not so much. I mean the first firework that hit my body was kind of awesome, but after 100 or so, they kind of hurt...
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Post by: Bedwyr on January 19, 2012, 06:37:58 AM
Heh.  Koli was caught off-guard.  Badly off guard, in fact.  As was I, although I think it's awesome, and Koli less so (even his hallucinations are ugly once you realize that the catapults with parsnips and gnomes bit was a hallucinatory reliving of some of the worse moments of the Giaskan siege...).  I never in a million years would have guessed the assassin, nor some of the other twists.
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Post by: Sacha on January 19, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
Luria: If you absolutely positively have to backstab every mother!@#$er in the room, accept no substitute.
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Post by: Solari on January 19, 2012, 07:52:42 PM
Can someone explain at least something about Koli's "assassination?"  I'm okay with big grand RP arcs, but it's important to understand that there are two "realities" competing here: what's actually occurred and been said, and what's being created for the purposes of the story arc.  With the exception of De-Legro, who chose to get involved, nobody else (to my knowledge) from Solaria is involved.  And therein lies part of the problem.  I'm not subjecting my character to imagined events that don't jibe with what I've actually said or done with my character.  I'm okay with total fabrications about my character being advanced, but nobody should expect me to play along with what is basically a fiction within fiction, and then get upset when I don't.  This isn't LARP, and it isn't Utopia/RK/whatever.  I like RP, but I also try to keep my RPs grounded in reality and mechanics.  It's a personal preference.

So, we have two camps: one with a huge set of letters portraying PeL as the Great Satan, and another with... I don't know what... portraying Solaria and LN as the Greatest Satan.

It would be very helpful (and I would very much appreciate it!) to know the behind-the-scenes stuff between the RP'ers, if only for OOC peace of mind.
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Post by: egamma on January 19, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
So, we have two camps: one with a huge set of letters portraying PeL as the Great Satan, and another with... I don't know what... portraying Solaria and LN as the Greatest Satan.

TL;DR summary here. Both camps are accurate.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Bedwyr on January 19, 2012, 09:38:57 PM
It would be very helpful (and I would very much appreciate it!) to know the behind-the-scenes stuff between the RP'ers, if only for OOC peace of mind.

When I sent out my OOC indicating I'd be fine with people acting against Koli because he's been less than effective lately because of my RL time commitments, that got passed around, and someone approached me about poisoning Koli.  To keep matters a secret, we agreed I would handle the posting of all RP's about the assassination attempts.  This is a real assassination attempt, and may even succeed in killing Koli depending on certain factors (yes, I am going to delete Koli if it works out that way), and there are good reasons behind the assassins telling the story they did, because it is a true story.  Someone with a great deal of gold available arranged this for reasons of their own.  It's certainly possible to figure out who did it, but I'm personally hoping they get away with it, just because I'd like to see something like this come off for once.
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Post by: De-Legro on January 19, 2012, 09:53:26 PM
Can someone explain at least something about Koli's "assassination?"  I'm okay with big grand RP arcs, but it's important to understand that there are two "realities" competing here: what's actually occurred and been said, and what's being created for the purposes of the story arc.  With the exception of De-Legro, who chose to get involved, nobody else (to my knowledge) from Solaria is involved.  And therein lies part of the problem.  I'm not subjecting my character to imagined events that don't jibe with what I've actually said or done with my character.  I'm okay with total fabrications about my character being advanced, but nobody should expect me to play along with what is basically a fiction within fiction, and then get upset when I don't.  This isn't LARP, and it isn't Utopia/RK/whatever.  I like RP, but I also try to keep my RPs grounded in reality and mechanics.  It's a personal preference.

So, we have two camps: one with a huge set of letters portraying PeL as the Great Satan, and another with... I don't know what... portraying Solaria and LN as the Greatest Satan.

It would be very helpful (and I would very much appreciate it!) to know the behind-the-scenes stuff between the RP'ers, if only for OOC peace of mind.

Yeah I jumped in, and I already regret it due to some grumblings and plotting that revolve around the single RP I've done. But hey those are the risks, I threw my hat in the ring and now other players are trying to make me pay for it, and as I've said myself before, anything you write in a RP can and will be used against you :)
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Post by: Darksun on January 19, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
When I sent out my OOC indicating I'd be fine with people acting against Koli because he's been less than effective lately because of my RL time commitments, that got passed around, and someone approached me about poisoning Koli.  To keep matters a secret, we agreed I would handle the posting of all RP's about the assassination attempts.  This is a real assassination attempt, and may even succeed in killing Koli depending on certain factors (yes, I am going to delete Koli if it works out that way), and there are good reasons behind the assassins telling the story they did, because it is a true story.  Someone with a great deal of gold available arranged this for reasons of their own.  It's certainly possible to figure out who did it, but I'm personally hoping they get away with it, just because I'd like to see something like this come off for once.

Yawn. Sounds like a big ego trip to me, typical Bedwyr move. The "certain factors" statement just seals the deal.
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Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on January 19, 2012, 11:05:25 PM
It's lols. Now let's see...what's the tally on people who thought they could make some sort of "Lurian Empire"...and failed?
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Post by: Lorgan on January 19, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
Actually it's storytelling and rising above the limitations of game mechanics. A very interesting read and a great source of intrigue.
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Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 19, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
It's lols. Now let's see...what's the tally on people who thought they could make some sort of "Lurian Empire"...and failed?

Only 2? I mean, Alanna and Koli make 2. Granted Alanna actually kind of succeeded for a while...
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Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on January 19, 2012, 11:09:19 PM
I'd wager a good many players in the affected realms probably find it less than "fun" and more on "frustrating". Why I say that is because generally people are a bit pissed when they know there's something going on but they also know they're not part of it. So in this case...the pissed off meter against the high nobility may be exaggerated more than usual? I wouldn't be surprised. But I am not complaining. The more they destroy themselves, then the more...they...destroy themselves?
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Post by: De-Legro on January 19, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
Yawn. Sounds like a big ego trip to me, typical Bedwyr move. The "certain factors" statement just seals the deal.

If he was trying to boost his Ego, Koli would be at the front defending his realm against Aggressors, instead of being bed ridden and allowing for other nobles to step up and become the heroes of PeL. The factors he speaks about are just related to other peoples actions. Whenever you do a RP of this type, you can't preset the outcomes, you have to defined several, or define the basic path things will take depending on what actions other characters take. If all of Luria suddenly united to find healers capable of healing Koli, it would be rather poor taste to just go, oh but I always intended for him to die. Likewise if Solaria RP's storming the estate where he resides, taking control and preventing all aid, it would be stupid to RP his recovery.

So perhaps take your snap judgements made on what appears to be OOC dislike for the family, and allow those who are actually RECEIVING the relevant RP to comment on how enjoyable or not it is.
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Post by: Darksun on January 19, 2012, 11:24:53 PM
So perhaps take your snap judgements made on what appears to be OOC dislike for the family, and allow those who are actually RECEIVING the relevant RP to comment on how enjoyable or not it is.

Who says I have a OOC grief with the family? My comment is based entirely on in character interactions. Damian had an ego trip and was executed in Suville. Malcolm twisted Carelia into a husk of a realm from a once great empire. The Bedwyr family generates larger than life characters. Koli fits the mould perfectly.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 19, 2012, 11:29:53 PM
In reference to the title, I don't think Luria is insane, we just know how to have fun. I mean everyone else is complaining about having no PvP on Dwilight, but that just means they obviously don't ever visit Luria. I mean we have so much pvp we practically ignore the npc monsters, etc...
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Post by: Norrel on January 19, 2012, 11:34:33 PM
In reference to the title, I don't think Luria is insane, we just know how to have fun. I mean everyone else is complaining about having no PvP on Dwilight, but that just means they obviously don't ever visit Luria. I mean we have so much pvp we practically ignore the npc monsters, etc...
This in spite of the fact that our major religion is based on killing npc monsters.
 ::)
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Post by: De-Legro on January 19, 2012, 11:48:01 PM
This in spite of the fact that our major religion is based on killing npc monsters.
 ::)

WAS the major religion. With so many nobles leaving it I doubt that is the case any longer.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: JPierreD on January 20, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
WAS the major religion. With so many nobles leaving it I doubt that is the case any longer.

Now the major religion is about fire. Fits much better. ;D
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Post by: Sacha on January 20, 2012, 12:53:23 AM
Only 2? I mean, Alanna and Koli make 2. Granted Alanna actually kind of succeeded for a while...

Amaury too, though with the controversy surrounding him, declaring himself Emperor would not have gone over too well I think >_>
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Post by: De-Legro on January 20, 2012, 01:19:58 AM
Amaury too, though with the controversy surrounding him, declaring himself Emperor would not have gone over too well I think >_>

And then there are all the nobles that have supported the various efforts and failed along with the ring leaders.
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Post by: Shizzle on January 20, 2012, 08:37:08 AM
Why did Alanna really call herself Empress? For as far as I know, she was simply Queen of PeL?
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Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 20, 2012, 08:49:27 AM
Why did Alanna really call herself Empress? For as far as I know, she was simply Queen of PeL?

Well for a time Fissoa was technically part of the Lurian Empire, or intended to be. Granted I'm not sure this lasted very long at all. I believe there was some obscure treaty this was intended as or some such.
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Post by: Anaris on January 20, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
Well for a time Fissoa was technically part of the Lurian Empire, or intended to be. Granted I'm not sure this lasted very long at all. I believe there was some obscure treaty this was intended as or some such.

Yep, the treaty was disputed by most members of Fissoa, but it was signed by their Grand Duke at the time. This later became a serious bone of contention.

However, so far as Pian en Luries was concerned, Fissoa was a vassal state.
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Post by: Shizzle on January 20, 2012, 03:09:14 PM
Yep, the treaty was disputed by most members of Fissoa, but it was signed by their Grand Duke at the time. This later became a serious bone of contention.

However, so far as Pian en Luries was concerned, Fissoa was a vassal state.

Ah yes. Lmao, GD Leon got banned for that. In no way does the current Fissoa respect any treaty of that kind :) Furthermore, LN and PeL have renounced those claims from the past, recognising the GDoF as a sovereign state.

We still want Irvington, though! Not that we have the nobles to actually govern it ...>.>

Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Anaris on January 20, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
Ah yes. Lmao, GD Leon got banned for that. In no way does the current Fissoa respect any treaty of that kind :) Furthermore, LN and PeL have renounced those claims from the past, recognising the GDoF as a sovereign state.

Well, yeah; if Alanna ever manages to get back into power, she's perfectly aware she'd be starting from scratch with Fissoa.
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Post by: Shizzle on January 20, 2012, 09:24:37 PM
Well, yeah; if Alanna ever manages to get back into power, she's perfectly aware she'd be starting from scratch with Fissoa.

That'd be interesting, to say the least :)
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Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 20, 2012, 09:43:35 PM
That'd be interesting, to say the least :)

If Alanna can somehow someway managed to get herself re-elected as Queen of Pian en Luries once again, heads would roll. I'd almost have to quit the game out of disbelief.

Whatever circumstances that lead up to that would be something to see.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Anaris on January 20, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
If Alanna can somehow someway managed to get herself re-elected as Queen of Pian en Luries once again, heads would roll. I'd almost have to quit the game out of disbelief.

Whatever circumstances that lead up to that would be something to see.

Well, given the current circumstances, if she was to even try to become Queen of Pian en Luries again, it would likely be in sort of a "Wait, let them live if they'll accept my rule, guided by the better interests of all Luria" situation.

And you, and the other people in power, would be the first up against the wall ;D
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Post by: Bedwyr on January 20, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
Yawn. Sounds like a big ego trip to me, typical Bedwyr move. The "certain factors" statement just seals the deal.

Not particularly.  The biggest factor is the referendum in PeL on whether people find it fun or not.  The next biggest is whether anyone finds the actual person behind the assassination.  And yes, there are quite a few others based on what people RP.  I never anticipated the efforts to find a relative of Koli's to stick on the throne as Regent, nor did I expect several other things.

Who says I have a OOC grief with the family? My comment is based entirely on in character interactions. Damian had an ego trip and was executed in Suville. Malcolm twisted Carelia into a husk of a realm from a once great empire. The Bedwyr family generates larger than life characters. Koli fits the mould perfectly.

Damian didn't have an ego trip.  He lost his mind.  Did you read none of the roleplays?  By the time he seceded he was having visual and auditory hallucinations that he was incapable of separating from reality.  By the time he was executed he was no longer capable of speaking coherently.  His sanity was hanging by a thin, thin thread, and he'd nearly gone completely insane earlier when Abington fell.  You may recall the RP's about his brother Darkwind going to drag him out of Stoneville, and then he convalesced in Suville for some weeks before he starting even routine activities.  Several nobles visited him during that period, though not the woman he was betrothed to, interestingly enough.  The news that Suville would be working with the Cagilan Empire against MS was the straw that broke the crippled camel's back and sent him off the deep end too fast for Darkwind to rescue him again.

Malcolm is far more complicated.  He never cared in the slightest for Carelia, and only in the latter days did he even really care for Leta.  He was running several different plans, and at one point during the war with Caergoth/Suville almost sold out for a duchy.  Fighting in the grand war against the Empire was a failed gamble, and a moderately risky one as everyone knew going into it.

I play Battlemaster for the stories, so, yes, I like interesting RP arcs.  Some are big, like Malcolm, Jenred, and Koli.  Others appear to be big but are far more personal, like Colin and Damian.  Others are quiet, like Darkwind, Arlian, and Alistaire.  Some, of course, I haven't figured out yet.

tl;dr, I think "ego trip" isn't even close to what these were.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Bedwyr on January 20, 2012, 09:54:16 PM
I'd wager a good many players in the affected realms probably find it less than "fun" and more on "frustrating". Why I say that is because generally people are a bit pissed when they know there's something going on but they also know they're not part of it. So in this case...the pissed off meter against the high nobility may be exaggerated more than usual? I wouldn't be surprised. But I am not complaining. The more they destroy themselves, then the more...they...destroy themselves?

There's no reason others can't be part of it.  The fact that the Council and certain region lords have taken over is because they are the power structure in the realm.  It kinda makes sense.  I'm personally waiting to see if some devoted Path followers try to pull something, or someone tries to finish the job to curry favour with whomever had Koli assassinated.
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Post by: Solari on January 20, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
There's no reason others can't be part of it.  The fact that the Council and certain region lords have taken over is because they are the power structure in the realm.  It kinda makes sense.  I'm personally waiting to see if some devoted Path followers try to pull something, or someone tries to finish the job to curry favour with whomever had Koli assassinated.

I just want to know WHO had Koli assassinated.  This is worse than waiting to find out who shot Mr. Burns.  >:( ;D :o
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Bedwyr on January 20, 2012, 10:22:14 PM
I just want to know WHO had Koli assassinated.  This is worse than waiting to find out who shot Mr. Burns.  >:( ;D :o

I believe it.  While I'm rooting for the assassin to get away with it, I think there are too many loose threads to pull.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Norrel on January 20, 2012, 10:38:51 PM
I never anticipated the efforts to find a relative of Koli's to stick on the throne as Regent
My idea :DDDD
Too bad the reasons to do it evaporated.
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Norrel on January 20, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Not particularly.  The biggest factor is the referendum in PeL on whether people find it fun or not.
I've been wondering, if we find the new Luria fun, does he die? Or is it the other way around?
Title: Re: Luria is insane! In other news, the sky is blue!
Post by: Bedwyr on January 21, 2012, 09:09:23 AM
I've been wondering, if we find the new Luria fun, does he die? Or is it the other way around?

The first.  Koli would continue attempts to bring peace and an eventual end to the civil wars if he lived, but if people prefer civil strife then that's cool, and I'm certainly not going to try to impose my own way when there have been more discussions, RP's, and communication overall in the last week than in the preceding, I don't know, several months?

Also, excellent work to both Solaria and Luria Nova on propaganda.  That is how spin should be done, almost entirely true so as to sting more.  Please note that this isn't sarcastic, I generally find BM propaganda falls under the Big Lie theory, and I think this is far more effective.
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Post by: De-Legro on January 21, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
The first.  Koli would continue attempts to bring peace and an eventual end to the civil wars if he lived, but if people prefer civil strife then that's cool, and I'm certainly not going to try to impose my own way when there have been more discussions, RP's, and communication overall in the last week than in the preceding, I don't know, several months?

Also, excellent work to both Solaria and Luria Nova on propaganda.  That is how spin should be done, almost entirely true so as to sting more.  Please note that this isn't sarcastic, I generally find BM propaganda falls under the Big Lie theory, and I think this is far more effective.

The problem with the "big" lies is that when they unravel, and they nearly always do, everything unravels with them. Keeping everything factual and putting a slight spin on things my not make such a sinister tale, but it is much better at preserving your nobles and realms integrity. Besides its not really our doing, if PeL wasn't full of so many schemers we wouldn't have so much material.
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Post by: Norrel on January 21, 2012, 09:37:26 AM
Also, excellent work to both Solaria and Luria Nova on propaganda.  That is how spin should be done, almost entirely true so as to sting more.  Please note that this isn't sarcastic, I generally find BM propaganda falls under the Big Lie theory, and I think this is far more effective.

Considering how the effectiveness of this propaganda has essentially made Jeffrey go ballistic, I'd also like to register my kudos.
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Post by: Dante Silverfire on January 21, 2012, 10:33:57 AM
Considering how the effectiveness of this propaganda has essentially made Jeffrey go ballistic, I'd also like to register my kudos.

Now if Brom could just get Jeffrey to shut up, so he doesn't make Pian en Luries get destroyed....oh well that's hopeless...lol.

Its interesting though, because keeping public opinion under control is so much easier when only fighting against one very major contender (when Brom and Alanna dueled it out repeatedly). Now that there are at least like 5 vocal voices against him, its really hard to do.
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Post by: Geronus on January 22, 2012, 02:06:44 AM
The problem with the "big" lies is that when they unravel, and they nearly always do, everything unravels with them. Keeping everything factual and putting a slight spin on things my not make such a sinister tale, but it is much better at preserving your nobles and realms integrity. Besides its not really our doing, if PeL wasn't full of so many schemers we wouldn't have so much material.

The lies and propaganda that were developed against SA are *masterful* in their spin on events. Almost all of it has a kernel of truth, even if it's horribly twisted in its interpretation. That's what makes it so believable, especially if you're already inclined to distrust SA. The best lies always have their basis in something true.
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Post by: Solari on February 08, 2012, 02:32:29 PM
In recent news: Fissoa has ambled its way into a Lurian war and woken up a sleepy LN in the process.  PeL keeps throwing half its force at Solaria's entire army, hastening their doom.
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Post by: Arundel on February 09, 2012, 02:22:01 AM
In recent news: Fissoa has ambled its way into a Lurian war and woken up a sleepy LN in the process.  PeL keeps throwing half its force at Solaria's entire army, hastening their doom.

Pft! Sleepy Luria Nova  ::).... They've taken a region of ours, and saved your hides; not very sleepy  >:(
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Post by: De-Legro on February 09, 2012, 02:52:08 AM
Pft! Sleepy Luria Nova  ::).... They've taken a region of ours, and saved your hides; not very sleepy  >:(

They are fielding only about half the force they can easily maintain though. Fissoa may see some of those that refused to participate in the war so far getting a little more militant .
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Post by: Arundel on February 09, 2012, 03:01:39 AM
They are fielding only about half the force they can easily maintain though. Fissoa may see some of those that refused to participate in the war so far getting a little more militant .

The majority of the force, about 75%, was being used, refitted after battles, and was very proactive with the orders given to them. That's not sleepy, its the opposite  :P
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Post by: De-Legro on February 09, 2012, 03:16:35 AM
The majority of the force, about 75%, was being used, refitted after battles, and was very proactive with the orders given to them. That's not sleepy, its the opposite  :P

I'm sorry, you are viewing all their orders how now :) In general their movement was pretty darn slow. Refits took days longer then they had to due to stragglers, and the army was not recruiting anything like the maximum force they can. Just need to look at the recent help they provided. 3k Had arrived in Santoo, 2k was right behind them and who knows where the rest of the army was.
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Post by: Solari on February 09, 2012, 04:10:41 AM
I'm sorry, you are viewing all their orders how now :) In general their movement was pretty darn slow. Refits took days longer then they had to due to stragglers, and the army was not recruiting anything like the maximum force they can. Just need to look at the recent help they provided. 3k Had arrived in Santoo, 2k was right behind them and who knows where the rest of the army was.

I'll let someone from LN complain about their own people, but based on what we were hearing on IRC, movement and participation in general has been abysmal.  LN is like the giant, coal-fired engine that could.  Whoever can get it going will roll over anything. 
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Post by: Arundel on February 09, 2012, 05:21:10 AM
I'm sorry, you are viewing all their orders how now :) In general their movement was pretty darn slow. Refits took days longer then they had to due to stragglers, and the army was not recruiting anything like the maximum force they can. Just need to look at the recent help they provided. 3k Had arrived in Santoo, 2k was right behind them and who knows where the rest of the army was.

I will settle for half-asleep, and no less!  ;)
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Post by: Lorgan on March 03, 2012, 08:13:24 PM
They're right, LN is kicking PeL and Fissoa's ass with one eye closed. ;)
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Post by: Shizzle on March 04, 2012, 01:18:24 AM
It's good to see some movement down south. A main reason for Skyndarbau to engage in the conflict :) And I honestly believe he has the ratio on his side! :D