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BattleMaster => Locals => Colonies => Topic started by: Noble family on March 15, 2011, 04:35:16 AM
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For those wanting some background info take a look at the wiki realm pages...
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Colonies
Thoughts?
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I sometimes wonder if Assassins is any good, being supposedly full of infiltrators who are supposed to go out and do stuff. But then I saw the income and the regions, and frankly, they are bad.
I've also heard about Outer Tilog with the nifty ability to torture one's unit. Beyond that though I've heard that it's devolved into a shell of what it once was.
I played a while in Lukon. Not much that I observed there except maybe destroying Wetham.
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Not sure I really have a favourite these days. Not that I've experienced all Colony realms, but mostly everywhere seems quite bland now. In the past, Giblot would have probably been my first choice. When I started BM in Giblot, I went an evil route with my characters, inspired, I suppose, by the example of Outer Tilog and so many people were more than happy to play along - either for or against the depravity. Everyone got into the spirit of things and it warms my heart to see that Headball is still mentioned in the Judge's bulletin from all those years ago. I think Sadi SaDiablo was the one to put that in.
Alowca was good too. They had religion there before it became a game mechanic, which was taken quite seriously by all and played a big part in the big internal disputes. That and Anomalous Psych provided some very inspiring leadership. Yet Always Solo forever dogged his heels and managed to do him in more than a few times. Though as I recall, the reason Anomalous got into power in the first place is because the nobility of Alowca left to try and found a new realm in Beluaterra or the Far East, fearing annihilation. I guess Anomalous chose not to share his knowledge of the trade loopholes that would make Alowca all but unassailable before he left ;-)
Assassins were always entertaining years ago too. There was plenty reason to fear them and their infiltrators and were always ready to pounce when sniffing weakness among their neighbours. Had a few good jests with Assassins when our paths crossed in Helsera and the like.
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OUTER TILOG!
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I am so against the slow pace, but am so for Outer Tilog.
Life is so hard.
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Lukon was fun in the near death days and thru the we will we will stomp you days... but now it is a bloated social failure. People too old to do much, sitting around wondering where all the kids are while they drink out of lead tankards.
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Lukon was fun in the near death days and thru the we will we will stomp you days... but now it is a bloated social failure. People too old to do much, sitting around wondering where all the kids are while they drink out of lead tankards.
They should all make heros, and the older people in Giblot make heros, everyone set for max retreat, and we have a nice battle with even odds. We'll get those old characters cleaned out! I've been very, very tempted to make Gellin into a hero.
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Val was a hero for years. I should have just paused him tho and then brought him back in about 8 years at 120 years old or something :P that would have been odd.
Ahh well. Lukon will fall one day, but I don't think Giblot will be around to see it unless other realms figure out prty quick that MT is their only hope.
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Obviously since becoming Prime Minister, Oritolon is my new favourite realm :-P Vicious politics like. I can definitely see why/how Oritolon periodically tears itself apart and watches Alowca go rogue, heh. Unruly.
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I like Oritolon too. Not that I joined other realms before. Like Revan, I watched how Oritolon numerous rebellions from within, drove many regions rogue. Taking sides in rebellions, learning about rebellions tricks, who to trust and who not to trust, these rebellions times are indeed exciting time ;D
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Damn straight I whipped Alowca into shape. I had Anomalous as ruler beforehand, but up until the Exodus it was more of a dual leadership.
I'd have to say Alowca was most fun with struggle in and out. Oritolon had a few interesting times, but it was mostly like pulling teeth to get people involved. Minas Thalion is proving to be an upstarting realm full of activity, plus Anomalous is developing some new tricks and traits.
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Damn straight I whipped Alowca into shape. I had Anomalous as ruler beforehand, but up until the Exodus it was more of a dual leadership.
I'd have to say Alowca was most fun with struggle in and out. Oritolon had a few interesting times, but it was mostly like pulling teeth to get people involved. Minas Thalion is proving to be an upstarting realm full of activity, plus Anomalous is developing some new tricks and traits.
How I missed the Alowca realm, Alebad realm. This Oritolon war with Alowca realm and Alebad realm happened even before my characters were born :'(
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How I missed the Alowca realm, Alebad realm. This Oritolon war with Alowca realm and Alebad realm happened even before my characters were born :'(
Alowca was second strongest realm on the Colonies at one point. 18k CS with her three regions. It was good times. Then Always and the rest came back and all the silly harping over religion got going again. Wasn't there to see Alowca fall, but I'd swear those lot were there own worst enemies.
Oritolon had a few interesting times, but it was mostly like pulling teeth to get people involved.
That hasn't changed! >.<
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If it weren't for Always and Margrave Alowca would be the dominant power in the Colonies. The Psychs had control of Alowca, a huge military with active nobles, and were about to buy Portion- combined with the surprise achievement of all of this coming from the ashes of 2 regions and 3k cs only a couple of weeks prior.
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If it weren't for Always and Margrave Alowca would be the dominant power in the Colonies. The Psychs had control of Alowca, a huge military with active nobles, and were about to buy Portion- combined with the surprise achievement of all of this coming from the ashes of 2 regions and 3k cs only a couple of weeks prior.
haha that is a big VERY big claim there...with a ton of Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda....
Blame it one me, them, her she those... bottom line is you were out maneuvered....repeatedly....as was Alebad, portion, wetham, OT once... The ploys to break Alowca away from Orit, or Wetham turned into a new realm, or Portion from Lukon... they all failed... :) you think you have what it takes to take down Lukon, bring it :)
(disclaimer - this messege is writen by a big furry Lukon Barbarian.... not by Wilson ((me)).... because while it is all true, I would have said it in a more political way)
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My first character Ash arrived just in time to witness the demise of Alowca realm. Kinda miss Pysche and his lot, especially Hvrek and his infamous rebellion. Hvrek was Duke of Alowca city when Alowca realm fall. Oritolon accepted Hvrek surrender as Duke partly because it was easier to maintain the city than TO it. It was something like that as what my character Ash knew.
Then come Hvrek rebellion which I grew to learn about rebellions and underground, stuffs like that. Hvrek had a Judge Katherine exile Spearhead and caused poor old man to pour all his heart and soul to inspire us to fight Hvrek rebellion. Nice try doing a coup de grace via our Ruler election which has 1 Lord with more knights mean the lord can vote more thingie.
I really cannot thank you enough for the lessons on rebellion, which come in handy for the next upcoming rebellions by Khain and his Utopia friends 8)
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Incorrect. Hvrek was the general of Oritolon during the fall of Alowca who came to terms with Catha to give them safe passage north in exchange for leaving the city intact. He was widely popular for it and voted as both judge and duke of Alowca, but asked to keep only one position.
As for rebellion, Hvrek initiated a ton of reforms to empower dukes, and ousted the Colonial Brethren in the process, who had taken the imperial government. With support against the crooked government he revealed he won the reforms, and later the election for PM. He won, supported and appointed those from his duchy, and then was rebelled against.
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Good, thanks for enlightening me. The version I heard have been skewed according to political agenda it seems. Now we going kill Catha and whatever remnants of Alowca Allyah mustered again... ;D
The Colonies Brethren is such secretive but this secret society did not die at that time when Hvrek ousted them. They had a secret guildhouse somewhere, known only to a few select members ;)
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yep. doctor and Kendrick kept it going.
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At one point, they pass the Bretheren leadership to Cadelius Strika, he keeps voicing out that he has not much support from those society members. Finally he given up the leadership to someone else. Nobody ever send invitation to join to my character who sound too righteous... ::)
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Just the name of that society sends Lukon into a witch hunt lol... I whisper it often...
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At one point, they pass the Bretheren leadership to Cadelius Strika, he keeps voicing out that he has not much support from those society members. Finally he given up the leadership to someone else. Nobody ever send invitation to join to my character who sound too righteous... ::)
/singsong "I know something you don't know"
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/singsong "I know something you don't know"
Heh... Be wary, Ash is everywhere, ash has no form of substance and can be anywhere :P
I kinda grow to like that Sedgewick. He visited almost all realms in Colonies by now ::)
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I've played in Assassins and Giblot extensively, and spent some time about Alowca/Alebad, Lukon, and OT.
Each nation is.. or in the case of the religious states, was.. remarkable. Alowca/Alebad had remarkable defensive military focus, and political atmosphere. Lukon has the whole rampant barbarian thing, and from what I saw in my short time with them this wildness and focus on strength extends into their politics. OT is.. well, it's OT. You love them, or you love to hate them. Always a catalyzing force. The Guild goes through tons of fluctuations- honestly, it's the one place in all the servers where you'll reliably find yourself in a position of power without any real effort. The Guild is remarkable in being a meritocracy, while still having strict control from the Tyrant (though that has seemed to lax over time). Giblot.. well, as I just mentioned in another thread, she's the font of idealism and freedoms.
Never did spent much time with Oritilon or Minas Thalion, so you all'll have to toss out the impressions there.
Nevertheless, is it any wonder I love the Colonies most?
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I've played in Outer Tilog for 8 years. I adore it. I've paused all but one my characters multiple times, but always kept my character active in Outer Tilog. No, it's not as active as it was in the past, but it's still the most twistedly-entertaining realm you'll ever find.
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I keep trying to love OT, as I repeatedly have characters in that realm, and had a great run with a vegetarian character, but I can never sustain my enthusiasm or enjoyment. The problem is every single time over the last 5+ years, the same "jokes" that make OT fun and unique are overused, beat to death, brought back to life, and the whole process is repeated ad nauseam. Last time I was in the Colonies, Assassins was very dynamic and enjoyable...but that was during the Wetham split and conflict with Lukon, so I don't know if that has continued. When I move a character back to the Colonies, it will be to Assassins.
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I apologise for reanimating this long dead post, but the necromantic art is better than opening a new one.
I am thinking of moving a character to the colonies, and I am unsure over which realm to choose. For what I see Assassins and Outer Tilog seem the most appealing. I'd like a realm with loads (loads!) of RP and the most medieval atmosphere, interesting intellectual discussions, politics and the like.
Which is the most vibrant at the moment and why?
Any suggestions?
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With what you're after I'm not sure Outer Tilog would be what you want... It's a bit different there...
The Colonies may well be about to enter a new age, with the long term wars ended, there will probably be some quiet for a while before all the dynamics change. I think any realm would be worth joining now as I'm quite excited about the future of the Colonies and really have no idea what to expect, so being a part of any of these realms as they build to whatever happens next will make you an important part of the history here...
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I apologise for reanimating this long dead post, but the necromantic art is better than opening a new one.
I am thinking of moving a character to the colonies, and I am unsure over which realm to choose. For what I see Assassins and Outer Tilog seem the most appealing. I'd like a realm with loads (loads!) of RP and the most medieval atmosphere, interesting intellectual discussions, politics and the like.
Which is the most vibrant at the moment and why?
Any suggestions?
No RP in Oriolton that I can see, but there are some interesting politics.
I think you should try OT. It doesn't have a medieval atmosphere but it's probably the most fun to play in. And if you don't like it, you can leave with your tail between your legs, entertaining whatever realm you join with the horrors you experienced in Outer Tilog.
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Despite the setup of Outer Tilog, I always found it boring every time.
Assassins were always fun and full of intrigue, but my experience with them was before they became more stable from the war with Giblot and Wetham.
Minas Thalion has the possibility of being interesting if they can secure a capital, and probably replace the ruler, or at least break him from his mission.
Never played Lukon, but they are the true military machine. I saw some good international RP from a FEW Lukon nobles, but never heard anything internal about them.
Oritolon is EASILY stirred up. It is very easy to bring this realm to the brink of civil war. You've got all kinds of cliques that most don't even know about, including the old timers. You can have a good time here with some initiative.
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Which is the most vibrant at the moment and why?
Any suggestions?
The Colonies may well be about to enter a new age, with the long term wars ended, there will probably be some quiet for a while before all the dynamics change. I think any realm would be worth joining now as I'm quite excited about the future of the Colonies and really have no idea what to expect, so being a part of any of these realms as they build to whatever happens next will make you an important part of the history here...
I tend to agree with this. We're definitely on the cusp of a new era and all realms have the opportunity to do some interesting things in the future, once everyone's settled down, reclaimed as much of the rogue lands as possible and prayed to their various gods in hope that they don't regret whatever decision they embark upon!
Of course, the only problem is that the potential to do interesting things might not necessarily become reality, but I'm hopeful. I think the present situation will probably force the break up of the longest standing alliances either way and that will be a boon to future enjoyment for everybody. You'd perhaps be well served joining any realm.
Oritolon is EASILY stirred up. It is very easy to bring this realm to the brink of civil war. You've got all kinds of cliques that most don't even know about, including the old timers. You can have a good time here with some initiative.
Hehehe, the best part is that you haven't been to Oritolon in an age and everything that you've said is STILL correct! Yeah, if you're mischievous and have an eye for politics you can have fun in Oritolon. As previously mentioned, roleplay isn't really existent there though. There are certainly a few nobles there capable of doing good RP and have in the past been more active with it, but we all found the last war very taxing due to the old estate system and collapsing to 14 nobles at one point (not good when you have two duchies and 8/9 regions). We all just gave a collective shrug as disaster heaped upon disaster I think. I'm simply happy to see a bit of discussion again now we have a reasonable number of nobles once more.
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All of this sounds exciting.
How is Assassins at the moment?
And.. How is OT different? I worry it might not be "serious" enough, too many jokes and not much going on. But this is just from what read on the forums
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OT is not serious at all and there isn't much going on at the moment.
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And.. How is OT different? I worry it might not be "serious" enough, too many jokes and not much going on. But this is just from what read on the forums
OT is vehemently not serious. It's about as not serious as one can get: http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog_(Realm) (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog_(Realm)). Most of the characters are delusional and/or criminally insane. We have characters who believe they're skeletons, zombies, vampires, wolf-man - all the classic horror movie stereotypes. None of them, of course, can be anything but normal human according to BM rules, but that doesn't prevent them from living under their delusions.
It's great fun, but don't come to OT if you're expecting serious roleplay.
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Regarding the Assassins, the last ruler, Aramon, died in a death duel with a fellow Assassin, Nightling, who is now the General of their realm. Prior to that, I recall being given details of Nightling's movements when it looked like she would cause trouble down south and having one of our own infiltrators hired to do a hit on her after she'd harmed one of our nobles.
I know next to nothing about what goes on in Assassins internally, but my fleeting impression is that it can be a harsh, cut-throat world!
It's about as not serious as one can get: http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog_(Realm) (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog_(Realm)).
Highlights include Customer Service (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog/Customer_Service) and Outer Tilog for Kids (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog/for_Kids). Think I first saw these on the tiki and they still make me chuckle now!
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Come Oritolon and enjoy the internal politic where you can rise up fast through the ranks. Soon there will be many lordship elections and duke as well, if you happen to be lucky 8)
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OT is vehemently not serious. It's about as not serious as one can get: http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog_(Realm) (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Outer_Tilog_(Realm)). Most of the characters are delusional and/or criminally insane. We have characters who believe they're skeletons, zombies, vampires, wolf-man - all the classic horror movie stereotypes. None of them, of course, can be anything but normal human according to BM rules, but that doesn't prevent them from living under their delusions.
It's great fun, but don't come to OT if you're expecting serious roleplay.
I believe they are the only realm with their own domain name:
http://outertilog.net/ (http://outertilog.net/)
It just points at the wiki, but still, there's serious love for OT.