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Title: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: pcw27 on March 19, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
Is it just me or is population growth in depopulated regions a lot slower then it used to be? I've had a nearly empty city for two weeks, moral and loyalty are perfect and there's ample food but the population's only gone up by about 200 peasants. That seems a lot lower then other regions I've seen conquered.

Has something changed?
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: fodder on March 19, 2012, 10:44:21 PM
are the surrounding regions empty too?
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: De-Legro on March 19, 2012, 11:16:31 PM
are the surrounding regions empty too?

I assume he is talking about Darfix, so yes

Immigration is one of the main population growths, they need to come from somewhere and they only move to regions that are close by. As the townsland grows from immigration into that region, the speed of growth for Darfix should speed up.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: GoldPanda on March 19, 2012, 11:58:18 PM
If nearby regions are also depopulated, then there is no emigration. Now you're relying on storks for your re-population efforts. ;)

I'm guessing the rate of growth is not linear in that case.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: Bael on March 20, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
Even in Twainville, with Twainwood bordering big regions, Twainwood seems to get very few peasants into it (it is still below 50%).
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: pcw27 on March 20, 2012, 08:21:55 PM
Under Darfix is having even slower improvement. Does this mean Eeborngul has to grow more population as well?

Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: Indirik on March 20, 2012, 08:31:23 PM
Regions with, I think, less than 50% pop will not have peasants leaving for other regions. That number may be slightly off. But if all the regions around you are <50% full, you will not get any immigrants.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: De-Legro on March 20, 2012, 11:12:29 PM
Under Darfix is having even slower improvement. Does this mean Eeborngul has to grow more population as well?

Don't know, how much pop does Eeborngul have? Logically if it is underpopulated, then yes.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: pcw27 on March 21, 2012, 02:30:15 AM
Ok cool, another thousand peasants in Eeborngul and we should be getting spillover into Under Darfix.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: JPierreD on March 21, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
The townsland of Mio Dupaki (Riombara, Beluaterra) suffered genocide from the Daimons more than a month ago. It is surrounded by the larger rurals Kuugl and Glongin, the city of Grehk and a blighted mountain region. Glongin and Grekh are at full population, as I suspect the blighted one is, and Kuugl has 7.511 out of 8.400 possible. I remember noticing how slow Mio was repopulating right after it was retaken from the Netherworld, and now that I check it I see that it still has not fully recovered, having 4.851 peasants out of 5.700 possible. Of course that bordering one blighted region could have an effect on it.

I don't mind the slow repopulation rate at all, just thought I would add some data for you to have some feedback and decide whether this is intended behavior or not.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: De-Legro on March 21, 2012, 03:10:51 AM
The townsland of Mio Dupaki (Riombara, Beluaterra) suffered genocide from the Daimons more than a month ago. It is surrounded by the larger rurals Kuugl and Glongin, the city of Grehk and a blighted mountain region. Glongin and Grekh are at full population, as I suspect the blighted one is, and Kuugl has 7.511 out of 8.400 possible. I remember noticing how slow Mio was repopulating right after it was retaken from the Netherworld, and now that I check it I see that it still has not fully recovered, having 4.851 peasants out of 5.700 possible. Of course that bordering one blighted region could have an effect on it.

I don't mind the slow repopulation rate at all, just thought I would add some data for you to have some feedback and decide whether this is intended behavior or not.


Do you know what the immigration per day numbers are?
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: JPierreD on March 21, 2012, 08:35:01 AM

Do you know what the immigration per day numbers are?

Not anymore, but I have the impression to have received such reports when the new system had just been implemented. Perhaps it's a false memory, mind you. Have not received it in the last 30 days, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: fodder on March 21, 2012, 09:08:38 AM
mio is a bit of an odd duck. it's a tiny townsland

and the other thing is.. it's 85% full...
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: Tom on March 21, 2012, 09:49:42 AM
If you don't get a report, then there are no immigrants.

People don't just move into underpopulated areas, they also take other factors into account. If the region sucks, they won't move there even if it is empty.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: vonGenf on March 21, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
and Kuugl has 7.511 out of 8.400 possible. I remember noticing how slow Mio was repopulating right after it was retaken from the Netherworld, and now that I check it I see that it still has not fully recovered, having 4.851 peasants out of 5.700 possible. Of course that bordering one blighted region could have an effect on it.

But all the peasants who emigrate from Kuugl go to Lopa, and none to Mio.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: De-Legro on March 21, 2012, 10:12:37 AM
But all the peasants who emigrate from Kuugl go to Lopa, and none to Mio.

Does Lopa have a lower relative population and/or higher stats?
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: vonGenf on March 21, 2012, 10:18:44 AM
Lower relative pop (5k/13k).
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: De-Legro on March 21, 2012, 10:30:05 AM
Lower relative pop (5k/13k).

Makes sense then doesn't it? If I was a peasant looking to move I would be looking for a decent region with plenty of open space.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: vonGenf on March 21, 2012, 10:34:38 AM
Makes sense then doesn't it? If I was a peasant looking to move I would be looking for a decent region with plenty of open space.

Yes, of course. I'm not complaining about anything!  :D I'm just helping to explain the slow repopulation of Mio Dupaki.
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: JPierreD on March 21, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
Hmm, true, though Lopa has Crawling production and Stoic morale, while Mio is Thriving and Joyful...
Title: Re: Has population growth been reduced
Post by: vonGenf on March 21, 2012, 10:54:37 AM
Hmm, true, though Lopa has Crawling production and Stoic morale, while Mio is Thriving and Joyful...

The people currently in Mio enjoy a high standard of living. Foreigners are probably pushed into menial jobs that allow Dupakians to maintain this standard. Lopa, on the other hand, has free land.

Europeans didn't migrate to America because the production there was high. They moved there because it was low, and therefore afforded them more possibilities.