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BattleMaster => Locals => Dwilight => Topic started by: JPierreD on May 11, 2012, 05:06:26 AM
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They raped my goats and stole my money. Now I'm indebted, paying therapy for the goats.
This is a thread for you all to share the evil deeds the Zuma have done against you, so you stop contaminating other threads with it.
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I don't think anyone is questioning whether the Zuma are evil or not.
Some people just decide to make a "deal with the devil" and use them for their own ends if possible.
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They raped my goats and stole my money. Now I'm indebted, paying therapy for the goats.
This is a thread for you all to share the evil deeds the Zuma have done against you, so you stop contaminating other threads with it.
The Zuma have contaminated other threads by involving themselves beyond their wasteland.
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When I was banished from D'Hara as a lad I wandered in the Zuma lands and I was imprisoned near the volcano nightscree. I escaped a few days later terrified of what could have been!
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The Zuma have killed an insufficient number of soldiers of Terran to justify my outrage. This is a grave injustice which needs to be fixed.
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The Zuma have not attacked Raviel in the entire time that I have been its' lord. I insist that they attack me, so that I can pour my righteous fury into page after page of forum posts.
Um, and what's the best way to play my character as an ignorant boob while talking to them? I'd like to get on with the incessant whining as soon as possible.
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The Zuma have contaminated other threads by involving themselves beyond their wasteland.
The Zuma have the right to play BM just as much as you do. And that mean venturing forth from their so called wasteland.
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The Zuma have the right to play BM just as much as you do. And that mean venturing forth from their so called wasteland.
Please do not use a plural when referring to a single player. It creates the false impression you're talking about a community.
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... who says zuma player doesn't have multiple personality?
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the zuma is rather incomprehensible the last time one of them envoys spoke to my characters... evil little bugger... trying to trip me up..
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Bowie is banned from ever traveling to the Occidens on account of a blood feud between he and Haktoo (the horrible toothed).
Zuma = evil!
8)
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Bowie is banned from ever traveling to the Occidens on account of a blood feud between he and Haktoo (the horrible toothed).
Zuma = evil!
8)
I thought it was Bowie = evil
lol
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I thought it was Bowie = evil
lol
Are these facts mutually exclusive?
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Are these facts mutually exclusive?
Zuma = not evil
bowie = evil
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Zuma = not evil
bowie = evil
+1
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The Zuma Coalition repeatedly interferes with my hamfisted and Rube Goldberg-like schemes that depend entirely upon nobody doing anything at all until I tell them to. It's not fair, and I would like to see them punished for it. If this game wasn't written solely for my enjoyment, then what's the point of it all?
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This server is fueled by your tears of anguish and frustration. If we don't deliberately screw with you, BM will literally die.
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I'm extremely >:( angry that the ZumaGM refuses to fully inform me of all communications that he/she receives, and even angrier that he/she doesn't inform me of all movement plans at least 30 days in advance.
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I too, am angry at the ZumaGM. Though I have no proof of it, they said I'd have my check for 10000 gold by now....
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The solution to the lack of communication by the Zuma GM is simple: Twitter!
https://twitter.com/TheRealZumaGM (https://twitter.com/TheRealZumaGM)
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The solution to the lack of communication by the Zuma GM is simple: Twitter!
https://twitter.com/TheRealZumaGM (https://twitter.com/TheRealZumaGM)
That is fantastic. I hope it continues.
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That is fantastic. I hope it continues.
It made me lol hard. ;D
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I am extremely upset that the Zuma considered my cavalry to be "tasty horsies." That is just insulting to my well trained and thoroughly overpaid cavalry troops.
Not to mention how am I to be a coward if Fang Fang actually accepts my combat challenge...
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If my char was a King, he/she would have declared war on Zuma by now. I HATE ABOMINATIONS ! ! ! Especially those who consider us snacks!
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Especially those who consider us snacks!
It was the condiments strapped to their arms that gave it away, was it?
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The solution to the lack of communication by the Zuma GM is simple: Twitter!
https://twitter.com/TheRealZumaGM (https://twitter.com/TheRealZumaGM)
Brilliant.
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Screamer to perform Opera in Rettleville in 7 days. Buy tickets now!
This is his best one!
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It was the condiments strapped to their arms that gave it away, was it?
That and many other things, the most obvious is their relation with Netherworld.
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Going back to serious tone. Ok, there was this battle between Zuma and Kabranskia, a week or so back. Can anybody tell what units the Zuma used?
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Going back to serious tone. Ok, there was this battle between Zuma and Kabranskia, a week or so back. Can anybody tell what units the Zuma used?
The Zuma used Fang Fang and 100 daemons...... about 10K CS
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Going back to serious tone.
I think someone missed the point of this thread. :o
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The Zuma used Fang Fang and 100 daemons...... about 10K CS
Actually I meant to say what type of unit they used.
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Actually I meant to say what type of unit they used.
Inf or SF type of unit as far as I could tell.
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Actually I meant to say what type of unit they used.
Daimons.
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Inf or SF type of unit as far as I could tell.
Isn't this metagaming? Share IC info IC or not at all, please.
But yes, daimons are daimons, far as I can tell.
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Isn't this metagaming? Share IC info IC or not at all, please.
But yes, daimons are daimons, far as I can tell.
Metagaming is using IG knowledge gained OOG. How can this info can be helpful at all? Am I going to bust Zuma anyway? I just wanted to know if Zuma is somewhat different from their Beluaterran half brothers.
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Metagaming is using IG knowledge gained OOG. How can this info can be helpful at all? Am I going to bust Zuma anyway? I just wanted to know if Zuma is somewhat different from their Beluaterran half brothers.
I guess that's a little better. The question sounded more like a "once I know, I can start planning line settings to use" type of thing. It's still metagaming. It's just very ineffective.
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Like anyone has the guts to fight the Zuma. I know I don't.
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The Zuma are fine.
Our collective response to them shows that we don't deserve to even pretend that we're seroiusly medieval, or serious, or medieval. We're playing an internet board game with monsters. That's it.
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+1 internets
Though I don't deal as intensely with them as others do, my opinion remains the same: People knew what they were settling next to when they headed into Western Dwilight. That's why I stay nice and cozy in the south-east, far away from the Zuma. But their neighbors expect to deal with a breed of Netherworld creatures who laid waste to half a continent already as if it was just another human realm.
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The Zuma are a result of our failures.
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The Zuma are a result of our failures.
Makes perfect sense. After islands like EC where it takes lightning bolts to get rulers to go to war, Tom wanted to place a disruptive force on Dwilight to prevent an equilibrium from being established.
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I'm pretty sure the Zuma are the result of the leg's coming back to life and growing new bodily features aftering being severed at the command of Duke Hrok in Solaria. Not only do they become gruesome beasts but they retroactively became the Zuma before the legs were even cut off in the first place.
Therefore, the Zuma are simply a result of a Duke getting pissed off and taking it out on couriers.
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Makes perfect sense. After islands like EC where it takes lightning bolts to get rulers to go to war, Tom wanted to place a disruptive force on Dwilight to prevent an equilibrium from being established.
Should have made them in the North/North-East then... ::)
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Here Brom goes again.
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When Dwilight started, the northeast was the happening place. It was the south that was dying of boredom.
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Oh god the Quasi-springdale...quasi-morek affair up there is so boring that each time they wipe eachother out they even keep the same names when they reform. I would be surprised if Libero was wiped out and came back as 'springdale empire'
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Springhai!
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When Dwilight started, the northeast was the happening place. It was the south that was dying of boredom.
Dunno what south you were playing in. Terran's never struggled to keep players; always had stuff going on.
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Dunno what south you were playing in. Terran's never struggled to keep players; always had stuff going on.
- Since when is Terran "south"? They're pretty much center-west.
- When Dwilight started, Terran wasn't even a gleam in your eye. (Or the eye of whoever founded it; I'm afraid I'm not that up on its history.)
The south, when Dwilight started, was Madina and Pian en Luries. Madina, from what I understand, has never been was never a particularly happening place, and Pian, while it did have intrigue and internal politicking, was prone to losing players since we didn't have much in the way of wars most of the time.
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Didn't we lose most nobles to the endless intrigue? :p
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I think that the Zuma are actually secretly lawyers. But honest ones. Yeah, I know... ???
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Oh god the Quasi-springdale...quasi-morek affair up there is so boring that each time they wipe eachother out they even keep the same names when they reform. I would be surprised if Libero was wiped out and came back as 'springdale empire'
Nope.
Stuff is going to happen, though.
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Nope.
Stuff is going to happen, though.
hehe, sure I did necro this. But appropriate topic. Did you see the date of the post that you quoted? ;)
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Libero Battlemaster Lite v2.0.
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Eh, it's relevant.
Hopefully. If we actually manage to do what we're planning.
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Dont plan, just do... Thats my credo.
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Yeah, look how well that turns out. . . .
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Better to do something than sit around.
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Better still to do something that makes sense.
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Its a game, the object is to expirement with possible outcomes and see where history flows... If I was in it to make sense... I'd read a book.
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One of the things I love about role-playing games is that instead of reading the book, you can be one of the characters inside the book.
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One thing I like about RP is that you can purposefully play a flawed character.... Perfection in itself is a flaw, a man without flaws is a child.
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Yes, and your point is?
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That there is no point to anything.
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That there is no point to anything.
Nothing really matters, anyone can see,nothing really matters...
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...to me...
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...to me...
...to me...
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...to me...
Mama, just assassinated a King! Put a knife against his back, drove it through and laid him flat.
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Mama, just assassinated a King! Put a knife against his back, drove it through and laid him flat.
Mama, life had just begun,
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...and now I've gone and thrown it all away.
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Everyone should let their duchies seperate and form new kingdoms and we have a free for all.
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C-C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER!
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Everyone should let their duchies seperate and form new kingdoms and we have a free for all.
been saying this about Ata for years :(
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Been trying on Dwilight for ages. Instead I will focus on breaking Asylon into kingdoms.... If you find yourself alone and without allies... Make them, each kingdom will attract new players and have its own functional economy and recruitment centers, in a federation I believe they could function like the united kingdom or the united states, united but divided.
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Good luck with that. It's an interesting idea, but I don't think it will work. You may just end up with three or four realms that individually fail.
If you had 20 or so players per realm, it might work.
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Eh, it could happen, if the new realms do attract new players. Look at Falkirk. It appears to have drawn in even more players, since the total between them and Aurvandil is up to 70 now. Just don't rush into it.
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Risk is a game.
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So is Chutes and Ladders.
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Yeah , so start having fun already.
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So is Russian roulette
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So is Russian roulette
A game I'd love to see Indirik play with himself.
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I'd love to see Indirik play with himself.
Fix'd
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I'd love to help Indirik play with himself.
Fixed better.
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I love Indirik... 8)
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Aww.. it's so nice to be loved.
But you guys are really creepin' me out. Stop it.
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Aww.. it's so nice to be loved.
But you guys are really creepin' me out. Stop it.
*creeps closer to Indirik*
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Aww.. it's so nice to be loved.
But you guys are really creepin' me out. Stop it.
*sneaks up behind him with a pizza raepface*
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Oh by the way, about the Zuma:
I want to be consistent here, so consider this me bitching about how making nice to the Zuma is the super-mega trump card. For the most recent exhibit, note Barca's continuing survival. It helps Terran a lot, sure.... but I just want to be clear that many of us who complained about the Zuma with Kabrinskia earlier don't regard the present intervention as an improvement either.
Not trying to start a flame war; just want to make sure the record is clear: I've consistently disliked the Zuma, even when they supported Terran. So there: I'm a grumpy !@#$%^&, even to my friends.
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Mrh? I haven't heard anything at all about the Zuma in a long time. What did they do?
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Mrh? I haven't heard anything at all about the Zuma in a long time. What did they do?
They're sitting around in Barca helping Barca rebuild, but, more importantly, intimidating Aurvandil into not attacking Barca.
i.e. it's another Zuma-induced faceoff.
I don't have the same emotional involvement as the Kabrinskia one because I'm not on either side of the line staring over it, but just wanted to officially register my frustration that the Zuma still haven't ROTFstomped anyone, nor allowed anyone to be ROTFLstomped. Let none say that I only complained about the Zuma when the Zuma worked against Terran!
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They're sitting around in Barca helping Barca rebuild, but, more importantly, intimidating Aurvandil into not attacking Barca.
-There is an EVIL living among us! And only one POWER can DESTROY IT!!!-
When will the Zuma decide to destroy the Aurvandil realm? 8)
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-There is an EVIL living among us! And only one POWER can DESTROY IT!!!-
When will the Zuma decide to destroy the Aurvandil realm? 8)
When will Aurvandil destroy the Zuma is a better question ;)
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They're sitting around in Barca helping Barca rebuild, but, more importantly, intimidating Aurvandil into not attacking Barca.
i.e. it's another Zuma-induced faceoff.
I don't have the same emotional involvement as the Kabrinskia one because I'm not on either side of the line staring over it, but just wanted to officially register my frustration that the Zuma still haven't ROTFstomped anyone, nor allowed anyone to be ROTFLstomped. Let none say that I only complained about the Zuma when the Zuma worked against Terran!
Have they explicitly threatened Aurvandil with consequences should they attack Barca?
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Have they explicitly threatened Aurvandil with consequences should they attack Barca?
Surely that means Aurvandil can attack Barca and them in the process without consequences! Or not?
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Have they explicitly threatened Aurvandil with consequences should they attack Barca?
Attacking Barca without attacking the Zuma could be tricky.
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Oh by the way, about the Zuma:
I want to be consistent here, so consider this me bitching about how making nice to the Zuma is the super-mega trump card. For the most recent exhibit, note Barca's continuing survival. It helps Terran a lot, sure.... but I just want to be clear that many of us who complained about the Zuma with Kabrinskia earlier don't regard the present intervention as an improvement either.
Not trying to start a flame war; just want to make sure the record is clear: I've consistently disliked the Zuma, even when they supported Terran. So there: I'm a grumpy !@#$%^&, even to my friends.
Grumpy !@#$%^&s of the world, unite!
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I've consistently disliked the Zuma, even when they supported Terran. So there: I'm a grumpy !@#$%^&, even to my friends.
I don't have the same emotional involvement as the Kabrinskia one because I'm not on either side of the line staring over it, but just wanted to officially register my frustration that the Zuma still haven't ROTFstomped anyone, nor allowed anyone to be ROTFLstomped. Let none say that I only complained about the Zuma when the Zuma worked against Terran!
I wouldn't be so sure it's a positive thing for Terran.
Sure, it's good for Barca, so maybe by proxy good for Terran. However, it's actually looking like it may be really bad for Terran because now, instead of attacking Barca, the Zuma deterrence is effectively just funneling Aurvandil up the coast toward Paisly and Terran.
What WOULD be good for Terran would be if the Zuma would, like, attack Aurvandil. That would be awesome. But nay, the whole sit and intimidate people is more their thing. ::)
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So what was the deal with everything imploding because of food? Low stocks or mismanagement? Feels like the moment I left, everything collapsed on its own...
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So what was the deal with everything imploding because of food? Low stocks or mismanagement? Feels like the moment I left, everything collapsed on its own...
A bug caused winter to last longer than it should have; now known as the "Long Winter." That combined with the recent switch to the new food/market system and people being unfamiliar with it, as well as Tom's adjustments and tweaks to food stores and production values lead to widespread starvation across most of the island.
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A bug caused winter to last longer than it should have; now known as the "Long Winter." That combined with the recent switch to the new food/market system and people being unfamiliar with it, as well as Tom's adjustments and tweaks to food stores and production values lead to widespread starvation across most of the island.
Look at the stacked population graph to get an idea of the size of the catastrophe.
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Look at the stacked population graph to get an idea of the size of the catastrophe.
That's quite an interesting exercise. Dwilight's population fell from 2.4M to 1.9M, a 500K drop.
But if you look at just two realms, Asylon and D'Hara, you see that their combined population dropped from 330k to only 80k. Almost 40% of the lives lost were among them.
Even better, if you remove Asylon, D'Hara, and Barca, PeL and Summerdale (dead or mostly dead realms), then the total population only drops from ~1.9M to ~1.8M.
It seems the hardship was really not equally shared.
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Believe me when I say that D'Hara has been a hellish nightmare, and I have been absent for most of the time. I would even say that some of our nobles have converted to paganism because of it, I'm pretty sure more than one has been making rain dances and sacrificing chickens to bring us crops again ;D
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Even better, if you remove Asylon, D'Hara, and Barca, PeL and Summerdale (dead or mostly dead realms), then the total population only drops from ~1.9M to ~1.8M.
The Stars protect their own. ;D
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That's quite an interesting exercise. Dwilight's population fell from 2.4M to 1.9M, a 500K drop.
But if you look at just two realms, Asylon and D'Hara, you see that their combined population dropped from 330k to only 80k. Almost 40% of the lives lost were among them.
Even better, if you remove Asylon, D'Hara, and Barca, PeL and Summerdale (dead or mostly dead realms), then the total population only drops from ~1.9M to ~1.8M.
It seems the hardship was really not equally shared.
I'm kinda happy I wasn't active then, I would have been greatly aggravated.
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BM is a game, games are meant to be fun, and random negative events you have no power over aren't fun. That's all I'm saying.
That's a statement I wholeheartedly agree with. Personally, I think its far more apt when discussing the Zuma. You've checked peasant population. I'd suggest a look at noble population. Bringing them active cost players. I'd know. I was one of them. Only nostalgia has me back.
Finton.
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I'm kinda happy I wasn't active then, I would have been greatly aggravated.
No !@#$. Losing literally half of the Moot was kinda the definition of not fun.
Though it's certainly made politics interesting. Major political upheavals all across the Moot... now we just have one more political battle to fight and we can return to the serious business of losing battles against Aurvandil...
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The Zuma are fun. I enjoy my chit chats with them.
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The Zuma are fun. I enjoy my chit chats with them.
They're back after their autopause?
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apparently
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The Zuma are fun. I enjoy my chit chats with them.
Yea, monologues are great.
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To the best of my knowledge Haktoo never autopaused. Just a few of the other GM characters did. There was probably no reason for the GM to check those characters as they just sat in the Zuma regions.