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BattleMaster => Development => Topic started by: Velax on June 12, 2012, 01:33:22 PM
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Why do the Dynamic Map overlays for Realms, Weather Areas and Diplomacy not work on FEI, but do on every other island?
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There is an error in the geometry data for the FEI. It's a Known Issue, but it's probably not going to be fixed immediately. Sorry :-\
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Oh. Is that also the reason why the map for Arcaea on the Realm and Regions page doesn't appear, but it does for the other FEI realms?
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There is an error in the geometry data for the FEI. It's a Known Issue, but it's probably not going to be fixed immediately. Sorry :-\
Do you know where the error is? All we need to do is find the faulty region and re-draw its borders.
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Do you know where the error is? All we need to do is find the faulty region and re-draw its borders.
I do not, but Velax's other post suggests it's one of the ones in Arcaea.
We may be able to figure it out by looking at the error report from the mapping framework.
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I do not, but Velax's other post suggests it's one of the ones in Arcaea.
We may be able to figure it out by looking at the error report from the mapping framework.
My personal guesses would be Hupar, or one of the regions surrounding it, or up on the coast.
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How would one go about finding this error?
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Do the duchy maps of Arcaea work? If you can find out which duchy map doesn't work, that would narrow it down.
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...duchy maps? Where are they found? If they're in the "Govern the duchies" page, then they don't work.
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Hrm... I will have to go lookiing for them. Maybe they didn't make it live? Anyway, just vie the region pages for each region in your realm. Note in which ones the region outline does not appear.
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Checked every individual region in Arcaea. The maps all work.
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Not just the map background appears, but the region outline overlay appears on all of them?
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It does.
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Then I guess we wait to see if Tom has any other ideas. :(
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BTW - duchy maps: go to your character status screen. In the part where it describes your allegiance (You are a knight of X in the duchy of Y...), the duchy name is a link. Click it to go to the duchy status page. It is like the Realm and Region page, but only shows the duchy. It also shows a map of the duchy.
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I had no idea that existed.
Might have found something. The map for the duchy of Remton (Remton, Sasat, Saex, Mraulaxon and Lantzas) doesn't appear. The maps for those individual regions appear fine, though.
Also, did you know you can see any duchy in any realm on the island by changing the Duchy ID number in the address bar? Don't know if that's intended.
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Personally I'd like to see some way for the duchy maps to be on the main overlay. Would be awesome to see an entire continent's ducal layout within realm borders.
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I had no idea that existed.
Might have found something. The map for the duchy of Remton (Remton, Sasat, Saex, Mraulaxon and Lantzas) doesn't appear. The maps for those individual regions appear fine, though.
Also, did you know you can see any duchy in any realm on the island by changing the Duchy ID number in the address bar? Don't know if that's intended.
It appears we have the issue narrowed down to 5 regions.
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I think I found the error!
I think it has to do with the river that flows from Nocaneb to the ocean.
In particular, it appears that the region of Remton is split in two by the river.
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It's almost certainly Remton, then. Tom thought he could make the two disconnected regions work. He managed to get the donuts working on Dwilight. Apparently the non-contiguous stuff wasn't so successful.
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Try again, please. I've re-drawn Remton.
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It seems to work, but there's an odd thickened border between Orbeh and Mraulaxon on the map in the Realms and Regions page.
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It seems to work, but there's an odd thickened border between Orbeh and Mraulaxon on the map in the Realms and Regions page.
Screenshot, please.
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Attached. only really appears in Orbeh, rather subtle actually.
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Two things:
1) Each region is a separate polygon. When we drew them, we started with one region, then drew the one next to that, and the one next to that, etc. Tom turned on "Snap to Point" (or whatever it's called) so that you could follow previous borders exactly. However... It appears that the border between Orbeh and Mraulaxon is not identical for each region. When the region borders are painted, they do not perfectly overlap. They spread a little, and aren't quite as dark in that are. This is what happened in the eastern border of Orbeh. Follow the region name over to the right, and just where that little bulge is, the two region borders diverge a small amount. What makes it worse is...
2) The newly drawn region borders do not exactly follow the old ones. Some of the twisty bits did not get replicated entirely. At the same spot as describe above, the little bulge in the border that projects slightly into Mraulaxon got cut off. But the default base layer for the map is the Full Map, which contains the old borders that were drawn directly on the map. So you are seeing both the old borders and the new borders.
Switch the base layer from Full Map to Geography and you can see the difference.
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It would be important to find out if it is the former or the later. If it is the 1st one, then this will also make the joined polygons for realms, weather areas, etc. fail.
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I am fairly certain it is both.
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Attached. only really appears in Orbeh, rather subtle actually.
No, that's not it. It doesn't appear on the main Dynamic Map, only on the Realms and Regions page. It's extremely obvious when you look at it. I'll upload a picture when I can.
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Can anyone please tell me if the FEI dynamic map now works or not?
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Can anyone please tell me if the FEI dynamic map now works or not?
Yes, it does. Velax is just being picky.
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Here's what I'm talking about:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/velax/baad6829.jpg)
That thickened region border on the lower right hand side of the highlighted portion of the map. It also appears on the Dynamic map, but only with the Realms, Weather Area and Diplomacy overlays.
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Also happens in Luria Vesperi, Dwilight. Not really a big deal, though.
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It only appears on the Arcaea realm map, not the island-wide dynamic map. Here's a close-up:
(http://wiki.battlemaster.org/images/ArcaeaBorder.png)
The realm maps are generated by fusing all the individual region polygons into a single realm polygon. When these two regions (Orbeh and Mraulaxon) are fused together, the divergence if the common border leaves a sliver-shaped hole. The map then has to outline that hole with a thick border. That causes the artifact you see. To fix it, the paths of one of the two regions would have to be redrawn to match the other.
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This is exactly what I need, including the info that there's a similar problem on Dwilight. These are polygon tracing bugs that are hard to find because the dev server does not support the polygon merging code.
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Also happens in Luria Vesperi, Dwilight. Not really a big deal, though.
Can you say which regions exactly, or make a screenshot, please?
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Orbeh should be fixed now.
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Can you say which regions exactly, or make a screenshot, please?
Log in with a Dwilight Character, then hit this link:
http://battlemaster.org/testing/RealmDetails.php?ID=51
There are two borders that show it:
1) Thor Gortauth and Garuk Utor
2) Thor Gortauth and Shinnen Purlieus
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Can you say which regions exactly, or make a screenshot, please?
(http://oi50.tinypic.com/2quq8a0.jpg)
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Ok, please try Dwilight again now.
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Orbeh should be fixed now.
It's fixed now, thank you for that.
On a vaguely related note, is it possible to make the colours of the Diplomacy overlay more differentiated? The colour difference between self and allied is very small, as is the difference between self and neutral.
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Ok, please try Dwilight again now.
Fixed!
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I found two more of those thickened lines on the FEI Dynamic map:
1. Between Anacan and Ansopen.
2. Between Topenah and Arempos.
Also, on the Diplomatic overlay, Arcaea, Sorraine and Cathay are joined together, with no border between them.
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I found two more of those thickened lines on the FEI Dynamic map:
1. Between Anacan and Ansopen.
2. Between Topenah and Arempos.
Also, on the Diplomatic overlay, Arcaea, Sorraine and Cathay are joined together, with no border between them.
Damn the mapmaker for fortelling our plans! 8)
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could someone put this into a bug report, on the bugtracker, please? It'll get lost here.