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BattleMaster => Locals => Beluaterra => Topic started by: Ehndras on June 20, 2012, 06:10:31 PM
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Well, finally joining Bellua. Had to donate to get a new char slot since apparently someone called Yuri is preventing my Hammersett Nord character from emigrating there due to having the same name. :P
I've been invited to join Riombara and start up the religion vaguely mentioned here, but I'm still on the wall about which nation to join.
http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,2639.0.html (http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,2639.0.html)
I'd like to bring 2 characters to Bellua, one as a Priest of Arkhan'a and the other as your usual nobleman aspiring to lead armies and kick demon ass. I'd most likely have them in the same nation, but I wouldn't mind spreading them apart a bit to make thing interesting.
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Come to Thalmarkin. The very ground which Overlord was defeated. ;)
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Don't listen to him. Come to Riombara. We do not have well established religions. Also, I maintain that a Riombara vs Thalmarkin showdown would be damn close.
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Don't listen to him. Come to Riombara. We do not have well established religions. Also, I maintain that a Riombara vs Thalmarkin showdown would be damn close.
Well, Liara still hopes to found Quintarianism...but there's just been so much demand for warriors, she hasn't felt right abandoning the sword to take up the cloth.
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Don't listen to him. Come to Riombara. We do not have well established religions. Also, I maintain that a Riombara vs Thalmarkin showdown would be damn close.
We need a new religion more than Riombara! We haven't had one for so long. Riombara had one but it fell apart a couple months ago :p
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Don't listen to him. Come to Riombara. We do not have well established religions. Also, I maintain that a Riombara vs Thalmarkin showdown would be damn close.
Having chars in both realms, I'd love to see that. But in all fairness, Thalmarkin has been raising armies of the same strength or more than Riombara with much less resources all this time and now we've just lost half our population. :/ Still... 14k mobile, ready to march! :)
That being said... let's start unblighting so that we can get this war going! We can battle it out just South of Fronen or something. :P
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ENWEIL!!!
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We need a new religion more than Riombara! We haven't had one for so long. Riombara had one but it fell apart a couple months ago :p
We totally do have a religion. And one of my dead chars is a god in it! (you can argue about the term "god" but I'm sure as hell sticking with that interpretation :P) Check out the Order of the Golden Feather on the wiki, there's some interpretation about this but in my opinion it's pure ancestor worship which I think is awesome and very fitting for us, simple warrior-types. :)
Not that I'm against competition of a nice, well thought-out religion. I'm just not going to follow it until you make me a god!
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I'm split between Riombara and Thamarkin atm... What are the politics behind those two nations? Republic, Monarchy, Military Dictatorship, Tyrannic, Benevolent Despotism...?
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Rio is a Republican Republic. Can hardly be more democratic. I believe Thal is a vanilla Monarchy, right?
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Thalmarkin is a kingdom. :)
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Rio is a Republican Republic. Can hardly be more democratic. I believe Thal is a vanilla Monarchy, right?
ENWEIL!!! is a democracy. Rio is an elitist and hypocritical oligarchy. :P
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ENWEIL!!! is a democracy. Rio is an elitist and hypocritical oligarchy. :P
Yes, join Enweil. Chenier will force feed you koolaid until you're thoroughly indoctrinated and hate all the proper things! 8)
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Yes, join Enweil. Chenier will force feed you koolaid until you're thoroughly indoctrinated and hate all the proper things! 8)
That. Also, realm without a city dominated by hating-everybody fanatics (of who the Cheniers are the leaders) of an already established religion.
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Allow me to provide a semi-unbiased account of the realms of Beluaterra. First off, something to note; there's a big division between South Beluaterra (Enweil and Riombara) and North Beluaterra. It's at least a weeks journey between the two, so aside from letters, there's very little contact between the two.
Enweil is a democracy and presently the worst off realm on the continent; they have the fewest nobles and are without a capital after losing their only city. One of the founding realms of BT, they've been fighting with Riombara for longer than anyone can remember with periodic truces to regroup or fight invaders. Chenier is running the show at the moment.
Fronen is a republic that hasn't done terribly well this invasion; lost one city and most of their regions are covered by dark clouds (which reduce stats). Been having activity problems recently, so there might be opportunites for advancement (or alternatively, it might just be quiet). Headed up by Geronus. Probably the most religiously mixed realm, they've got elements from the Golden Feather, Bloodspeakers and Estahsism
Melhed is a republic renown for taking a very, very long time to decide anything, although they've been better recently. Rarely fights other human states, but they've been one of the major participants in the present fight against the Daimons. Home to the Bloodspeaker religion.
Nothoi is a democracy and the baby of BT. Lost their capital earlier in the invasion, but got given a new one by Fronen. Potential to expand, as they have a fair few empty regions around them. Mostly follows Estahsism, might be some Bloodspeakers.
Old Grehk is a monarchy thats had one of its cities blighted, but is otherwise fairly well off. Along with Melhed and Thalmarkin, they've done most of the heavy lifting this invasion. The Church of Humanity, Daishi and Order of the Golden Feather are all established there. Also home to the greatest living Beluaterran, Askarn Iltaran (I kid).
Sint is the lone theocracy on BT, they sided with the daimons four or five years ago and are struggling to live it down. Started off well enough, but hasn't performed well in the latter half of the invasion. Still with three cities and plenty of room to expand, they have a bright future. Hemaism is the state religion.
Thalmarkin is a monarchy and has been the hero of this invasion. Overlord, Darkest Hour of the North and Darkest Hour of the West were all killed attacking their capital. Presently rather battered, but have room to expand. Mostly Order of the Golden Feather, with some Daishi. Noldorin is King.
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Enweil is a democracy and presently the worst off realm on the continent; they have the fewest nobles and are without a capital after losing their only city. One of the founding realms of BT, they've been fighting with Riombara for longer than anyone can remember with periodic truces to regroup or fight invaders. Chenier is running the show at the moment.
Their religion is The Way, which is very important for the realm. I believe one of the Cheniers is the founder.
In Riombara there is the Draconic Order, but it is extremely inactive, and was founded mostly for OoC reasons (to combat Daimon Worship).
Fronen is a republic that hasn't done terribly well this invasion; lost one city and most of their regions are covered by dark clouds (which reduce stats). Been having activity problems recently, so there might be opportunites for advancement (or alternatively, it might just be quiet). Headed up by Geronus. Probably the most religiously mixed realm, they've got elements from the Golden Feather, Bloodspeakers and Estahsism
Damn, I loved that description. Should join it if for some reason Felicie can no longer stay in Rio.
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Enweil is a democracy and presently the worst off realm on the continent; they have the fewest nobles and are without a capital after losing their only city. One of the founding realms of BT, they've been fighting with Riombara for longer than anyone can remember with periodic truces to regroup or fight invaders.
That's not true! I can remember before Enweil and Riombara started fighting with each other!
Hmm...that was not long before Delvin became Prime Minister. An interesting coincidence.
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Their religion is The Way, which is very important for the realm. I believe one of the Cheniers is the founder.
In Riombara there is the Draconic Order, but it is extremely inactive, and was founded mostly for OoC reasons (to combat Daimon Worship).
I did not found The Way. The one who did now lives in Rio, as far as I know.
And I really doubt I'll win the next rulership elections. 1-day rulership referendums are good for surprises like this. :P
And hey, I don't hate everyone! I'm the one who offered alliances with Nothoi, OG, and Sint! Sint's the only one failing to sign it, now.
And sure, we lack a city... but Fheuvenem has been unblighted. We do plan on taking it back fairly soon, even if the Riombarans refuse to help.
Damn, I loved that description. Should join it if for some reason Felicie can no longer stay in Rio.
Fronen was better when the Blood Cult was the state religion. :(
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And sure, we lack a city... but Fheuvenem has been unblighted. We do plan on taking it back fairly soon, even if the Riombarans refuse to help.
Translation:
"Despite the fact that Midnight of the South is completely blocking the path between Riombara and Fheuvenem with the largest concentration of Daimons left on the continent, when Riombara doesn't come help us retake Fheuvenem, I will blame Riombara and claim that they're not refusing help because they're in league with Daimons."
;D
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Translation:
"Despite the fact that Midnight of the South is completely blocking the path between Riombara and Fheuvenem with the largest concentration of Daimons left on the continent, when Riombara doesn't come help us retake Fheuvenem, I will blame Riombara and claim that they're not refusing help because they're in league with Daimons."
;D
Yes. ;D
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Well, I would have suggested you come to Fronen, but there really is a big activity issue right now. Here are some Pros and Cons:
Pros:
1. I will love you forever if you bring a high activity character to the realm.
2. There is no state religion - all religions in Fronen are based in neighboring realms, meaning there is space for yours.
3. Your religion sounds very interesting, and I wouldn't mind having it housed in my realm at all. And, activity permitting, I might even help you with it.
4. There's lots of secular opportunities as well. So few active characters means advancement is pretty easy.
5. There's lots of opportunities for someone interested in helping rebuild a realm from the ground up.
6. I'm interested in implementing a formal constitution similar to what Riombara has - our current governing process is pretty malleable.
Cons:
1. Low activity. This realm is deader than dead right now. I may have to administer CPR soon. Please come liven things up.
2. We were enemy number one on the island before the current Invasion. At one point, every single realm in the North was trying to get a piece of us. That may or may not change once the Invasion ends. I've been doing as much as I can to build goodwill and better relations with our neighbors, but who knows? Old Grehk in particular was really out to get us before the Invasion; it would not surprise me if they come at us again soon.
3. The realm is in a total shambles thanks to low activity, the effects of the shadow of the blight (which covers nearly the entire realm), losing our capital, and general daimonic havoc. It will require significant time and effort to rebuild Fronen into any semblance of its former power, and we are largely at the mercy of other realms to help us kill of Midnight of the East to get our capital back.
So, weigh the good against the bad and decide. Fronen could be a lot of fun with an influx of a few active new players.
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Fronen always looked very interesting. Personally, the thing that always drove me away are those weird italian names for councils positions. But that's just me.
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Thalmarkin is a monarchy and has been the hero of this invasion. Overlord, Darkest Hour of the North and Darkest Hour of the West were all killed attacking their capital. Presently rather battered, but have room to expand. Mostly Order of the Golden Feather, with some Daishi. Noldorin is King.
Why thank you. You've not done too bad yourself! ;)
But the old government system names are so outdated. Yes, Thalmarkin is a monarchy but we elect all of our government positions, the general monthly, and the council comprises half of the realm, though most information is shared with the entire realm. Of course, our actual government members do have great authority, especially our King but you just can't argue with his results and methods during his almost 2 year reign... That doesn't mean you can't argue with him though. :)
1. I will love you forever if you bring a high activity character to the realm.
;D
2. We were enemy number one on the island before the current Invasion. At one point, every single realm in the North was trying to get a piece of us. That may or may not change once the Invasion ends. I've been doing as much as I can to build goodwill and better relations with our neighbors, but who knows? Old Grehk in particular was really out to get us before the Invasion; it would not surprise me if they come at us again soon.
I would personally consider that a pro. Especially if you know that expansion was a big reason for that war, you had after all 5 cities and were attacked by realms who had all together 6 cities together. (Not counting Melhed since their participation didn't really end up benefiting either party.)
So... the prospect of war is always good in my opinion, even if you might lose. But either way, I think your diplomacy has really gotten Fronen out of the marginalized state it was in before the invasion.
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I think that one of the side effects of this invasion is that all (well nearly all) realms honestly worked together - this has never happened before to this extent. There were few questions left like 'Do they truly want to aid us or are they preparing any treachery''...the main question was 'Are they active to actually help us or not?'. Post invasion diplomacy sure is going to be different from pre-invasion (see Fronen...) with everyone being mostly friendly towards most of the other realms.
I for my side am /really/ looking forward to find out what will happen in Riombara - we have had an strong influx of enweilian and IVF characters and so far the miltiary crisis has prevented any internal discussions....but I estimate that this will change. I am really interested to find out if these characters will stay (I hope so) and if yes how - or if - Riombara will change.
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I'm extremely active and very passionate about my playing, averaging 18 hours online on weekdays due to my work and most hobbies revolving around having stable internet connection. As such, I log in every 5-10 minutes all day long and have already quit a character on Atamara due to sluggish RP and a lack of communication. >_> I really doubt being the one active player in a dead nation will do much, Priest or not. Fronen sounds like it'd be a great opportunity to experiment with my playing style, but I'm not so sure about the prospect of all my work being reduced to nothingness as soon as someone decides they're bored with the invasion's end. :P Is there an army? Can it move? Is it sluggish, or is the lack of activity bad enough that the nation has practically ground to a halt?
I've been leading nations, clans, and armies in Strategy-War RPGs since I was 8 years old (I lied about my age of course, bahaha!), and the one thing that irks me is a wholesale lack of activity and commitment to the cause - whatever it may be. Religion, nationalism, the spirit of roleplay, our players must have SOMETHING that brings them together. It is wholly possible that Fronen's fractured political system is what ultimately doomed it to all hell.
Although... As a Bay12er, I know my buddies just left Summerdale in Dwilight to join Astrom, though some stayed behind to fight to the death - as we are famous for. I'm pretty sure I can recruit a few die-hard Dwarven bastards to join us in our desperate plight... If so, then I wouldn't have a problem rebuilding Fronen from the ground up. I've done it in other games, I can do it here.
Oh dear gods. What am I getting myself into? >_>
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There is an army. It is somewhat sluggish. It's also small. We have about three active families in Fronen besides myself, and a fourth will return when (and if) Dyomoque is returned to us by by Nothoi. Really, a few active players could probably rejuvenate the realm considerably. During the war prior to the Invasion there were a lot of debates in the Senate, and our armies weren't the shambles they are now. The Invasion has really ground us down.
I don't think anyone will attempt to destroy Fronen in the near future. Old Grehk and Nothoi are the only realms that might have a true grudge against us, and there are reasons for each of them not to come after us. We ceded Dyomoque to Nothoi to use as their capital after Reeds fell, which was a very magnanimous gesture, so I would be a bit surprised if they still come after us after that. As for Old Grehk, well, I don't know about them. I think it would be risky for them to come after us given the current state of affairs, but that may just be me.
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Hmm, that surely shines a more positive light on Fronen.
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Fronen, here I come. I was searching for a realm in BT where a 17 yr (kid) warrior can make a name for himself and bring glory to his family. Don't let his looks fool you, he can march to battle on a single command. Just wait for a week. Only one question, did Fronen sided with Daimons, ever?
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Hopefully not, I would not join a realm that sides with Daimons.
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Nah, never. We've been accused of taking advantage of the Fourth Invasion due to our relative inaction, but we never openly sided with anyone.
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Having chars in both realms, I'd love to see that. But in all fairness, Thalmarkin has been raising armies of the same strength or more than Riombara with much less resources all this time and now we've just lost half our population. :/ Still... 14k mobile, ready to march! :)
That being said... let's start unblighting so that we can get this war going! We can battle it out just South of Fronen or something. :P
Also, just had to reply to this. Riombara just raised our fourth (?) army of over 20k CS within the last month to take another crack at Midnight of the South. I think we're actually going to win this time, as we've slowly whittled away his chargers. Our current army is actually one of the largest yet at around 30k CS. We've got 2500 men sitting in Ardmore. Should see a huge battle in another day or so at most.
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Timing: Enweilios, end of April (losses of 15.000). Rebuilding and preparing Rines for Midnights attack during May. Heading far west to engage him in Rumannen end of May (losses 20.000). Heading home, recruiting, attacking him in Mio Dupaki around June 13th (losses 17.000). Now, 8 days later, of a total mobile strength in Riombara of 30.500, 27.000 did march into Ardmore as one single wave this sunrise.
Thalmarkin sure takes the honours with her tenacity and battleworthiness in the north - and the fitting crowning achievement of killing Overlord himself - but Riombara ain't doing half bad considering we were basically cut off for months now. Sustaining that level of activity sure is work but the results are awesome. Goes a far way to show the difference of having an economic base and using it.
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Nah, never. We've been accused of taking advantage of the Fourth Invasion due to our relative inaction, but we never openly sided with anyone.
You have recieved a talented, young, nobleman, always by his sword.
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Hopefully not, I would not join a realm that sides with Daimons.
Nobody did in this invasion.
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Riombara has done an excellent job. They were very cooperative when I was the general of Enweil.
We actually set aside our differences quickly and fought Nightfall of the East several times, and eventually faced Overlord who crushed both armies like bugs with his flying cavalries.
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I would like to suggest you come to Melhed. We have a very strong religion right now, and I would love to see some competition for the bloodspeakers.
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I would like to suggest you come to Melhed. We have a very strong religion right now, and I would love to see some competition for the bloodspeakers.
Join The Way!
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In Riombara there is the Draconic Order, but it is extremely inactive, and was founded mostly for OoC reasons (to combat Daimon Worship).
fairly ooc. though it was basically.. refounding of another religion which has gone inactive where my priest was the last priest.
you getting the drift with me and religions? i can provide the infrastructure.. but someone else needs to do the other stuff.
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Probably by tomorrow, my char would emmigrate to Fronen.
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Probably by tomorrow, my char would emmigrate to Fronen.
Excellent. 8)
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Excellent. 8)
I spoke too fast. Seems like there is another character there with the same name, preventing emmigration. Unless my name change request is granted... Really, really bad luck :-(
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I spoke too fast. Seems like there is another character there with the same name, preventing emmigration. Unless my name change request is granted... Really, really bad luck :-(
Your request should be approved unless it is a patently ridiculous name or breaks the rules around naming (i.e. contains a title like 'King').
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Your request should be approved unless it is a patently ridiculous name or breaks the rules around naming (i.e. contains a title like 'King').
No, pretty much the other way around.
Name change requests are for changing from bad names to good names. They are not for changing names for your own convenience, because you no longer like the old name, or because you want to change the name for your character's RP.
Until and unless Tom changes the policy, they are solely for ensuring that people have an option for getting rid of stupid names like "DragonRider xXxNinjaKillerzxXx". (Or, y'know, less extremely stupid, but still stupid ;D )
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No, pretty much the other way around.
Name change requests are for changing from bad names to good names. They are not for changing names for your own convenience, because you no longer like the old name, or because you want to change the name for your character's RP.
Until and unless Tom changes the policy, they are solely for ensuring that people have an option for getting rid of stupid names like "DragonRider xXxNinjaKillerzxXx". (Or, y'know, less extremely stupid, but still stupid ;D )
He isn't trying to change his name because he doesn't like it or because of a RP, he wants to change it so he can play on a continent with his name already. I do think he should make sure the name he changes it to is not already on the continent he wants to play on so it will actually work but I see no reason his request should be denied.
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He isn't trying to change his name because he doesn't like it or because of a RP, he wants to change it so he can play on a continent with his name already. I do think he should make sure the name he changes it to is not already on the continent he wants to play on so it will actually work but I see no reason his request should be denied.
See: "for your own convenience."
If you can't move that particular character to that particular continent, then move another one, delete that one and create another, or move to another continent.
As I said: The only acceptable reason for a name change is to change a name that is unacceptable for the milieu to one that is.
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No, pretty much the other way around.
Name change requests are for changing from bad names to good names. They are not for changing names for your own convenience, because you no longer like the old name, or because you want to change the name for your character's RP.
Until and unless Tom changes the policy, they are solely for ensuring that people have an option for getting rid of stupid names like "DragonRider xXxNinjaKillerzxXx". (Or, y'know, less extremely stupid, but still stupid ;D )
Er, doesn't emigrating basically force you to change your character's name if someone on the destination island is already using it? Or does it just block you from emigrating altogether? I thought it just made you change the character name. Then again, this could just be one of those times where I got some idea in my head about how things work that isn't accurate...
Seems kind of harsh to completely block a character from going somewhere... He could delete the character, but then he has to wait two weeks before he can go to BT. IMO you should be able to change your character's name during emigration if someone at the destination is already using it...
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You are blocked from emigrating to that island if the name is already in use.
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Then again, this could just be one of those times where I got some idea in my head about how things work that isn't accurate...
:P
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So I can't emmigrate this character. My other characters are well established, so I need to delete this char. I create a new one with different name, wait for 2 weeks, try emmigrating, and again see "Sorry, there is another character on that island with the same name." The process continues. Can you see how frustating that is to a player.
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Use uncommon names then. And switching out a few consonants with similar sounding letters will still leave you with a Medieval-ish name that's probably unique. "Sir Bob" and "Sir Edward" are probably taken. "Sir Job" and "Sir Ydwerd" are probably not taken yet.
Addendum: Or add a middle name. "Sir Bob Edward <family name>" is probably not taken.
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Just pause the old character. Some of us can also check if your new character's name is already in use.
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Free region to whoever comes to Enweil with a takeover unit!
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Haha, will Enweil finance the unit?
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Haha, will Enweil finance the unit?
Maybe after the city is taken, so they can actually transfer bonds...
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Oh right, zero banks... family help ftw. :)
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Maybe after the city is taken, so they can actually transfer bonds...
The lordship is a payment in itself.
Because:
Oh right, zero banks... family help ftw. :)
Mind you,
Maybe after the city is taken, so they can actually transfer bonds...
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I JUST arrived in Riombara :D
Sir Ehndras Aurea, at your service. ;)
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I JUST arrived in Riombara :D
Sir Ehndras Aurea, at your service. ;)
Recruit a big TO unit and come West!
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No poaching our new arrivals!
Besides, there is the little matter of having Darkest Hour of the South blocking the route between Enweil and Riombara....
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Ehndras is broke so I only managed to recruit 20 archers and am converging with the army now to combat Darkest Hour of the South. I wanted to buy a nice, big cav unit but I seem to have forgotten that I lose my entire unit when I emigrate. >_>
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Just means your family isn't rich enough. A few calls to the aunt and see what she has to say to you. ;)
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The aunt won't send me gold anymore. After all, she is not my personal banker.
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Hmm, a little too greedy there. ;)
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Well, this week has certainly been spiced up. ;)
New girlfriend spicing up my nights, marching against daimonspawn in Bellua, Aurvandil just decided to throw 25k at our southern allies Barca for no apparent reason while northern diplomacies among the northern Astroists are in utter chaos and a Lord betrayed Asylon by seceeding to Kabrinskia even with Kabrinskia stating they didn't want them to(Dwilight), not to mention preparing to found a new nation/colony in Arcaea...
An exciting week indeed.
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Just because I'm anal about this term, "seceeding to" is not the proper terminology. Secession is the severing of ties. You don't "secede to", you "secede from". In BattleMaster parlance, secession specifically refers to a duchy leaving a realm to form a new realm. When a region (or even an entire duchy) swaps from one realm to another, it is a change of allegiance.
Yes, I know it sounds like I'm being pedantic, and I am. At least a little. But the incorrect use of this specific terminology causes a lot of confusion, especially in reporting bugs.
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Haha that's alright. :P I couldn't remember the proper term. Its like immigration and emigration, which are also commonly misused. I know there's a counter-term for secession but for the life of me I cannot remember it.
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There's cession. Where one government cedes (gives) a territory to another. Usually by treaty.
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There are also concessions. You need a drink after such a technical discussion.
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Finally, a successful emmigration.
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:-) Definitely enjoying my experience in Bellua! I arrived just in time to kick some Daimon ass in two of the most epic battles I'll ever witness.
Though I obviously aspire to achieve Lordship I'm taking it slow. My plan is still to become a Priest and found a comprehensive Poly-panentheistic religion, but I'm still learning the ropes of Bellua and thus taking it nice and slow.
I'm definitely here for the long run though. :-D Just readied a nice RP speech for my promotion to Marshal on another continent, complete with a new Latin motto for the army/nation. ;-) I've really enjoyed the opportunity to lead here in BM - the experience giving an altogether different feeling than the dozens of times I've led before.
Knowing that once I really like a game I'm loathe to drop it, going so far as to make it a concrete aspect of my daily schedule, I am quite aware that BM is now a digital extension of my very soul ;-)
Lets mop up those Daemonhordes and start rebuilding civilization, eh?
My only curiosity is in regard to the frequency of such Daimon invasions.
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Tom has announced that this will be the last of the GM-led invasions. So, not sure what the schedule for the invasions will be after this. Usually there's plenty of time to rebuild and recover, then let things get interesting before the next invasion starts.
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So... are you referring to future non-GM-led invasions? :)
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Dunno. If Tom has decided what to do, he sure hasn't told me. But the first two invasions just turned up the monster/undead spawners to huge levels.
Oh, and frogs. Lots and lots of frogs...
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Perhaps gnats and locasts will join the fray.
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Wut? lolcats?
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;D
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An invasion where certain well-established, active and trustworthy players might be allowed to reduce some of Tom's Daimon workload while better simulating the chaos of a demon invasion by playing as Daimons/Daimon leaders would be absolutely wonderful to behold. It'd really add a new dynamic to Blight invasions. :-)
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@ehndras: that's what was done for the third and fourth invasions. The results were less than perfect. Not many people are willing to put up with the abuse the player base heaps out on GM players... :(
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Obviously you picked the wrong people for the job >_> Abuse is to be expected, c'mon, you're RPing murderous demon-filth attempting to annihilate all traces of human life a sacrifice their souls to damnation. If you can't expect and take the heat then get the hell away from the demon-forges. :-P
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You had to be there to understand.
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That bad, huh? :-P
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@ehndras: that's what was done for the third and fourth invasions. The results were less than perfect. Not many people are willing to put up with the abuse the player base heaps out on GM players... :(
What I think would be better but harder because it requires more people is to actually have every daimon/monster/undead/whatever troop leader be a character though it could be only like 5 or 6 if it was like the last invasion with only one type attacking and how daimons basically came back as different names (something of some direction) you could have a similar system where there character died they get to play the next one made. It would be less of GMing and more of being a player on the other side though it would have to be trusted players who cant have a character above knight position and can't have a vice-marshal or above with the army ranking stuff on the continent. So not so much fun with your character on Bellutera but price to pay to be in that position. (They would of course be trusted but basically you don't what them getting lucky with their ideas as it can be hard to not use knowledge in choices, as in your a marshal and you need to decide which region to have the army to go to it will be hard to not make the better choice or they will end up making the wrong decision on purpose to completly avoid it.)
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I figure giving it only to people who don't play on Bellua would be best. Or, I don't know, convert humans into daimons or some such?
I'm sure there's some method that could be used to ensure no abuse or "I hated Riombara on my old char so I'm going to wtfpwn them with my daimons, buahaha!"
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I figure giving it only to people who don't play on Bellua would be best. Or, I don't know, convert humans into daimons or some such?
I'm sure there's some method that could be used to ensure no abuse or "I hated Riombara on my old char so I'm going to wtfpwn them with my daimons, buahaha!"
Yeah, we had enough of that with one of the actual GM players.
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I'm sure there's some method that could be used to ensure no abuse or "I hated Riombara on my old char so I'm going to wtfpwn them with my daimons, buahaha!"
This issue with that method is that isn't necessarily what your daimon/s you control would do and it should all be IC though Tom might have some stuff that he shares with the daimon GM/players that the regular characters wouldn't know.
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@ehndras: that's what was done for the third and fourth invasions. The results were less than perfect. Not many people are willing to put up with the abuse the player base heaps out on GM players... :(
I didn't like the Fourth Invasion, but that had relatively little to do with the GMs. I thought they did alright, all things considered. I actually quite enjoyed the Monster GM's RPs and thought he created some very interesting and memorable characters out of his NPCs - the Wisdom-Sword-Shield triangle was interesting to follow, and I quite enjoyed the overall clan dynamic with Epic and Justice as patriarch/matriarch, etc. The problems and frustrations I had with the Fourth were more structural I always thought.
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Nothing was as cool as monsters crushing DoA, and then some of their nobles joining the monsters.
That's something I missed in this invasion ; somebody being able to join Overlord in traveling through blight to kill someone.
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That's something I missed in this invasion ; somebody being able to join Overlord in traveling through blight to kill someone.
Wasn't on the plan this time. There were a few offers. No, I'm not going to drop names.
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Maybe next time the unreadable invade our fallen nobles can have the option to join them. THAT would be epic.
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Wasn't on the plan this time. There were a few offers. No, I'm not going to drop names.
*coughGuilhaumecough*