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BattleMaster => Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Geronus on July 12, 2012, 06:08:41 PM
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Title: Marked for Death: Voluntary Character Mortality
Summary:
Give players a new option on either the character or family page that allows them to voluntarily make a character vulnerable to death under a variety of circumstances.
Details:
The idea is to add a check-box option for all characters that marks them for death. The original idea sprang from a desire to have a more interesting way to end the career of an older character that is intertwined with IG events. Once selected, the box cannot be unchecked, but other players cannot see whether a particular character is marked or not.
The effects of checking the box would be to add a risk of character death. The following circumstances have all been suggested as things that could lead to the death of a marked character:
- being wounded in a battle (just like a hero)
- being successfully assaulted by an infiltrator
- losing an ordinary duel (increased chance of death)
- being tortured
- spending time in a dungeon
- being attacked by bandits
- any other circumstance that could normally lead to a character being wounded
For the sake of simplicity, any circumstance that would lead to a serious wound, up to and including having a lesser wound get worse (people did often die of infection resulting from a relatively minor wound, after all) should be able to cause the death of the marked character.
Benefits:
This option would create a way to see your characters end their lives as the result of an actual and potentially random game event rather than simply as the result of a calculated decision to finally delete the character. It has greater depth than the option already provided by the Hero subclass as it does not require a class change and adds additional circumstances outside of battle that can still lead to the death of a character. This adds richness to character deaths, as the variety of circumstances that can lead to a death makes for interesting storylines. See the following thread for more discussion:
http://forum.battlemaster.org/index.php/topic,2751.0.html
Possible Exploits:
None that I can think of since the option does not provide any benefits to a character and the decision to check the box cannot be reversed.
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+1.
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+1. I hate the stupid 'and he just died' stuff. C'mon! We need something more exciting then that.
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Also the way you act when you really have the chance to die changes. People don't get as macho and reckless as they would otherwise. Love it.
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+1
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The one-way nature of the option is definitely important. Otherwise it would be possible to check the box only in certain situations, such as when in an enemy prison, or going into a duel, hoping that one specific person kills you, then unchecking it after the event is over (assuming you survive).
I like it.
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The one-way nature of the option is definitely important.
With one or two big bolded "ARE YOU SURE? ARE YOU REALLY SURE? YOU COULD DIE!" screens.
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With one or two big bolded "ARE YOU SURE? ARE YOU REALLY SURE? YOU COULD DIE!" screens.
I would say only one but I completely agree with this. What if its a misclick and they are then stuck with it? Thats most the purpose of those things, IMO.
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Geronus,
I think you summed up the idea quite wonderfully. Thank you, looks great.
It would be interesting to then gather some statistics about the usage of the feature. Some of us, myself included, have been yearning for a feel of more danger and excitement, and a way to increase character rotation. How many of us would actually click that button? I believe a surprisingly high number would.
Though I would like to make one suggestion still. Should it be so that older character have significantly increased chances for death? This way I could click the mortality button right at the beginning and have higher chances of him actually impacting the world, with the acceptance that as he grows older, his life is going to get riskier.
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Geronus,
I think you summed up the idea quite wonderfully. Thank you, looks great.
It would be interesting to then gather some statistics about the usage of the feature. Some of us, myself included, have been yearning for a feel of more danger and excitement, and a way to increase character rotation. How many of us would actually click that button? I believe a surprisingly high number would.
Though I would like to make one suggestion still. Should it be so that older character have significantly increased chances for death? This way I could click the mortality button right at the beginning and have higher chances of him actually impacting the world, with the acceptance that as he grows older, his life is going to get riskier.
Perhaps a secondary option to make it possible to die of wounds. That would affect older characters more, since they stay wounded longer.
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Geronus,
I think you summed up the idea quite wonderfully. Thank you, looks great.
It would be interesting to then gather some statistics about the usage of the feature. Some of us, myself included, have been yearning for a feel of more danger and excitement, and a way to increase character rotation. How many of us would actually click that button? I believe a surprisingly high number would.
Though I would like to make one suggestion still. Should it be so that older character have significantly increased chances for death? This way I could click the mortality button right at the beginning and have higher chances of him actually impacting the world, with the acceptance that as he grows older, his life is going to get riskier.
I believe this is covered by the blanket statement that anything that could lead to serious wound should be able to kill the character. I'm not sure about the chance of being seriously wounded in the first place, but at the very least the chance of a wound getting worse is increased with age.
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So, does this get any love from Tom? Ready for the bugtracker?
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So this would essentially work the same way as Mortality worked on BT during the 4th invasion?
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So this would essentially work the same way as Mortality worked on BT during the 4th invasion?
Maybe like it worked AFTER the tweaks.
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What tweaks are you referring to?
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What tweaks are you referring to?
At the start of the 4th, there were massive casualties, and characters would remain wounded for weeks. After the first month or so, the mortality was reduced.
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So this would essentially work the same way as Mortality worked on BT during the 4th invasion?
I don't remember how it worked, exactly, but possibly.
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I think this is a brilliant idea. I really hope it goes somewhere.
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I support the idea, it just needs to be fleshed out a little more. Basically, coding it would be a bit of a nightmare with the current feature set, but it might be possible to move it into an entity method (like wounded() ).
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I support the idea, it just needs to be fleshed out a little more. Basically, coding it would be a bit of a nightmare with the current feature set, but it might be possible to move it into an entity method (like wounded() ).
That sounds like a good idea. A simple one too.
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Tom,
So, do you mean like when wounded, the game would check if the box is ticked and then if it is, it has a certain chance of killing the character?
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So, do you mean like when wounded, the game would check if the box is ticked and then if it is, it has a certain chance of killing the character?
No, it was more of a coding comment.
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I support the idea, it just needs to be fleshed out a little more. Basically, coding it would be a bit of a nightmare with the current feature set, but it might be possible to move it into an entity method (like wounded() ).
From a conceptual or technical standpoint?
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Loving this idea, talked about it last week on IRC with danaris and Lorgan (and probably some others that I forget to mention). Most likely would check it for all my characters, then start calling people who don't use the option pussies. 8)
I would still charge into battle without thinking though. Living on the edge battlemaster-style. This is also a great option to stop jaune from winning the game.
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Very, very much old topic, but wonder why not have this?
I like my characters, but think something real for die suddenly, make new characters. I think people say Hero not so much interesting, and then no can do others things.
Is possible make this feature request, or is already dead idea?
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Thought this was approved long ago? Just not a top priority at the moment?
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"at the moment" == 7 years
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At the time of this thread, it was not yet officially approved. That didn't come until much later.
As you perfectly well know, the dev team is volunteer, and overburdened, and compared to changes that make the game more adaptable to its much-reduced playerbase, this feature is not high priority.