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Title: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Scarlett on August 07, 2012, 04:26:43 PM
...is your character?
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Foundation on August 07, 2012, 04:47:44 PM
Napoleon.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Anaris on August 07, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
Perhaps, for those of us who are not medieval scholars, a short list could be given of potential choices, together with some summaries of their personalities and official acts?
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Anaris on August 07, 2012, 04:49:14 PM
Napoleon.

(http://unlimitedlivesblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/picard-facepalm.jpg?w=300)
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Uzamaki on August 07, 2012, 05:04:59 PM
Is Henry VIII still open?
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Foundation on August 07, 2012, 05:09:26 PM
Is Henry VIII still open?

I don't think so, you might have better luck with Henry the ith.  He's a bit more imaginative.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Scarlett on August 07, 2012, 05:12:35 PM
I think I'd take Henry II. You can have Henry VIII even if he's technically Renaissance.

Don't know about a short list, but here's a Christian-centric start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_monarchs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_monarchs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_monarchs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_list_of_Roman_emperors#Eastern_emperors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kings_of_Jerusalem
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Solari on August 07, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
Medieval? Malus Solari takes it back—way back—http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajan), with a dash of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England).
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Lefanis on August 07, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
(http://unlimitedlivesblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/picard-facepalm.jpg?w=300)

 ;D

My favourite captain.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Lefanis on August 07, 2012, 05:47:01 PM
I like to imagine my character as Brian Boru.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Ehndras on August 07, 2012, 06:14:13 PM
I'd say Charlemagne but I don't want to die a silly fatass because I wanted to take a bath wearing chainmail and get stuffed in a pickle barrel and carted back home in disgrace. Smooth move, Holy Roman Emperor, smooth.

Or was that someone else? *shrug* I'm a little iffy on the HRE's history.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: jaune on August 07, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
http://historymedren.about.com/library/who/blwwattila.htm

 ;)
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Scarlett on August 07, 2012, 07:18:27 PM
Hey, Henry I died of a "surefit of lamprey" ... choked on eel (his favorite dish).

I don't think Charlemagne died that way. He lived to be pretty old (72?), had 18 kids, numerous concubines, and most of the known world. He was the man.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Ender on August 07, 2012, 07:30:09 PM
I honestly dont know. I dont tend to pattern any of my characters off any individual historical figure. I'd be curious to know which medieval figure someone could peg Edmund for, if there was one, however.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Scarlett on August 07, 2012, 07:36:55 PM
It's not really practical to model your character after one - it's more like a 'which superhero are you' question, like if you had to be one of these guys, which one would be appropriate?

Given how preoccupied just about every medieval ruler was with inheritance, that right there is enough to make BM characters incomparable.

I don't know Edmund enough to peg him, but as a wild guess you could try Richard I (the Lionhearted). He wasn't as romantic a figure as he is portrayed (e.g. Sean Connery in Robin Hood). Pretty complex guy. He was generally considered an excellent general and a mediocre King (which may not translate well to Edmund) but he could be summarized by "grumpy guy who preferred French to English, the Aquitaine to London, and kicking ass to collecting taxes."
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Ender on August 07, 2012, 08:07:10 PM
Given what I know of Richard I that may not be perfect, but probably isnt terribly far off actually. Edmund can get awfully grumpy about all sorts of things when his mood isnt right.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Ehndras on August 07, 2012, 08:16:05 PM
RIGHT, not Charlemagne, I was talking about Fred I.

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However, on 10 June 1190, Emperor Frederick drowned in the Saleph river.[69] Being impatient, he had decided to walk his horse through the river instead of crossing the bridge that had been too crowded with troops. The current was too strong for the horse to handle, and his suit armor was too heavy for him to swim in: both were swept away and drowned. Some of Frederick's men put him in a barrel of vinegar to preserve his body.

Frederick's death plunged his army into chaos. Leaderless, panicking, and attacked on all sides by Turks, many Germans deserted, were killed, or even committed suicide. Only 5,000 soldiers, a small fraction of the original force, arrived in Acre. Barbarossa's son, Frederick VI of Swabia, carried on with the remnants of the German army, along with the Hungarian army under the command of Prince Géza, with the aim of burying the emperor in Jerusalem, but efforts to conserve his body in vinegar failed. Hence, his flesh was interred in the Church of St Peter in Antioch, his bones in the cathedral of Tyre, and his heart and inner organs in Tarsus.[3]

The unexpected demise of Frederick left the Crusader army under the command of the rivals Philip II of France and Richard I of England, who had traveled to Palestine separately by sea, and ultimately led to its dissolution. Richard continued to the East where he defeated Saladin in many battles, winning significant territories along the shores of Palestine, but ultimately lost the war (see Treaty of Ramla). He returned home after he signed the treaty under the terms of the agreement that Jerusalem would remain under Muslim control. However, the city would be open to Christian pilgrimages. Also, the treaty reduced the Latin Kingdom to a geopolitical coastal strip that extended from Tyre to Jaffa.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Scarlett on August 07, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
Fred 1 was still a pretty awesome Emperor.

Richard I also died from hubris: he managed to get all the way out to the Holy Land and back on Crusade and was walking around during some siege or the other, I think back in England, when an archer on the walls spotted him and shot him. Wound infected, dead King.

"What do you mean, I shouldn't be walking around? Nobody can hit me from this distance!"
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Lefanis on August 08, 2012, 04:36:07 AM
I'd say Charlemagne but I don't want to die a silly fatass because I wanted to take a bath wearing chainmail and get stuffed in a pickle barrel and carted back home in disgrace. Smooth move, Holy Roman Emperor, smooth.

Or was that someone else? *shrug* I'm a little iffy on the HRE's history.

You are thinking of Barbarossa.

Edit: note to self- check page two of responses -.-
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Dante Silverfire on August 08, 2012, 05:30:25 AM
Machiavelli

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli

Technically not a ruler, but still.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Heq on August 08, 2012, 07:29:07 AM
Saladin, if Saladin was female and celtic.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Arundel on August 08, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
I... have no idea. Caspius is an ensemble of every negative trait, plus courage, conviction, and zealotry, of several medieval rulers. I can't peg any from my mind off the bat, but I'll look through a list shortly unless someone wants to help out :P.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Foundation on August 08, 2012, 09:44:28 PM
Julius Caesar, if he was female, led the Carthagians to victory against Rome, and was a big hulking man riding elephants across the Nile.
Title: Re: Which Medieval Ruler...
Post by: Antonine on August 12, 2012, 05:51:16 PM
Margaret of York only more religious maybe?