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Title: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 11, 2012, 01:12:53 AM
Anyone play any of these ones?

Shintolin (http://www.shintolin.co.uk/) (Hunters and Gatherers and Builders!)
Shartak (http://www.shartak.com) (Pirates and Indians and Cannibals and Settlers!)
Urban Dead (http://www.urbandead.com) (Barha!)

These are all somewhat similar; AP-based movements and actions, the 2-d grid style map, searching, building, fighting, crafting.

I was a really big fan of Nexus War too while that lasted. There was a really intriguing theme going on there.

The others are interesting too. Team play helps. There is also pay-for-extra-characters-or-something options but they don't help out all that much (or hurt too much if you don't).
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Lanyon on August 11, 2012, 01:26:37 AM
What happended to nexus war? I'm playing it right now.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Indirik on August 11, 2012, 02:50:24 AM
I played Urban Dead for a while with two characters. It was fun, but repetitive. Maybe it would be better as part of some guild/team.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 11, 2012, 07:18:16 AM
Its definitely a lot more fun with a group. Coordinating attacks at specific times. Laying sieges to malls, the tearing apart of survivors by the dozens or hundreds. Good stuff.

Although with my characters, as zombies, they can still accomplish good things on their own cuz of all the skills. And by good things I mean, killing people and destroying things.

Lanyon, are you sure it's the same Nexus War I was talking about? The online game where you play as either an angel or a demon (or a neutral... thing...) fighting in this surreal multi-planar city/world with guns and magic and large blunt objects?
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Lanyon on August 11, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
Yep I'm sure cause i'm been pillaging cottages for quivers of arrows lately and getting destroyed by tentacle pet walls
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 11, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Then... uh, what's the site this is happening at? Cuz NW officially stopped on October 12, 2009. From the main site:

Quote
Nexus War is now closed.

This game was a significant portion of my life over the past three and a half years.

I loved writing every line of this game. I loved writing every snippet of lore. I loved writing every stupid little routine and in-joke. I loved creating cities and history.

Despite my inability to continue funding it out of pocket, I do not feel that I have failed in my original goal: to create a community.

And for this, I thank you all.

I have enjoyed our time together.

The forums and the wiki, and the irc server (irc.nexuswar.com) will remain active as long as I can keep them going.

I am, as ever, bharris@gaijin.com and jormosaurus rex.

- Brandon Harris (bharris@gaijin.com), October 12, 2009
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: De-Legro on August 12, 2012, 05:57:06 AM
I would be interested in starting a BM settlement for Shintolin
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 12, 2012, 07:01:49 AM
I've never played either but I'd definitely be interested. If its good I can bring 10-30 people in with us, at least, from my RP and gaming group I run.

Can someone who plays give a little summary of each game's "finer" details? I'd prefer a bird's eye view from a player prospective than the drivel most games feature in their FAQs and site descriptions.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 12, 2012, 07:18:38 AM
I created three characters :o They allow up to three interestingly. Have no idea what I am supposed to do though.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 12, 2012, 06:35:38 PM
Ehndras, in Urban Dead, you're a human survivor during the zombie apocalypse. And/or, you're a zombie. As a survivor you're basically running about from building to building, making sure to be in a heavily barricaded one when you run out of AP's, lest you get picked off by zombies. You search for healing stuff, ammo, weapons, as well as other things like power generators, gas, books, spraypaint. Doing damage to other players is a common way to gain XP. The more XP, you get skills of various kinds. Different buildings offer different possibilities for type of items you can find. If (when) you die, you become a zombie, and then you can't search for or use items, but you get access to zombie skills and can claw at or bite survivors. There's a mechanism for returning to the living, as there are players with skills and equipment to resurrect a zombie, but they usually don't just go around doing that to anyone. There's a forum somewhere you have to beg someone to resurrect you, at one of the certain places on the considerably large map. Personally, my two characters are zombies and have been for a while. I used to be part of a large group who would organize raids on well-defended malls and such, but now I find there are still weak places I can take down myself. It's somewhat enjoyable to break in, bite everyone there once (infecting them) and maybe drag one or two out to the streets to feast on their corpse.

Shartak is similar, except in a native vs colonists on island(s) type setting, with natives, settlers, pirates, cannibals, etc. There's a lot of wildlife, so if you just enjoy shooting or stabbing things to get XP and increase skills, you can do that without having to worry about player politics. There's a lot more skill areas and item types, including some agriculture. There are some rare weapons floating around too apparently, but I've never found one nor have needed to. Unlike with Urban Dead there are achievements of various kinds, exploration of the map, the chopping back of jungle. Again, death is not permanent; here instead of Necro Tech reviving you your starting village has a shaman who, after you assume spirit form, can resurrect you.

Shintolin started out straight up hunters and gatherers, and over time has gotten some settled agricultural civilization aspects. Shintolin's death system is - well, you don't die, you become "dazed" if your hitpoints go to zero. Your actions are limited, AP regeneration is limited, and you need someone to get you some herbal tea to get back to normal. Oddly this 'death' is the most inconvenient of the three games. Skills are rather more important, and items can be crafted; buildings aren't just there already, but must be constructed. I.e., a stone spear is made from a wooden staff and a handaxe; and a handaxe is made from a stone and a flint. The wood comes from forests - either just searching, or cutting down trees (you need a stone axe for that); the stone from hills or cliffs, and again you can either just search, or you can try quarrying (you need various tools for that, as well as the skill). Everything is like this. You need to eat food; so there's agriculture, or gathering from the wild, or hunting down the animals. Unlike in Shartak, the animals don't just fight back, they'll run away, and many of them are impossible to take down by yourself (mammoths for example). The raw meat you get has to be cooked; fields need to be watered, etc.

I have to admit Shintolin is my favorite. New settlements are hard though. Back in the day my character (Tyrannicus) was part of a Nexus War based clan, but it's hard enough to survive without having to worry about other settlements burning down your stuff. Then again that's a major part of the fun, and now there are things like walls and towers. Still, my character's a complete nomad, and a total badass as well. I'd be interested in working with anyone who is interested in teaming up somewhere though.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 12, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
AWESOME! I'm totally up for this.

My most recent forray was a ver successful 3-month stint in Haven & Hearth that ended when my super-powerful tight-knight clan of fellow RPers assimilated 3 neighboring villages, rebuked a massive raider empire, and established ourselves are the dominant lords of a massive area - then ONE !@#$ING GUY who spoke like a 12 year old and quoted scripture, I !@#$ you not, appeared from behind a !@#$ing tree and murdered me, took my key, broke in, murdered everyone in their sleep, and even killed my buddy who was an extremely experienced pure-combat build who had been playing for nearly 2 years. That this guy managed to kill him goes to show this dude must have been trolling people for a long, long time, just raiding villages. He took NOTHING. NOTHING. Not our high quality super-rare steel, our weapons, tools, high-quality painstakingly collected seeds and saplings, nothing. He walking in, killed us all, and left the gates wide open and left.

F*cking trolls. H&H is FULL of them. Players who either play to piss people off or just get bored and decide to kill everyone around them.

At least I made friends from the other villages, I actually recruited some of their players to BM :-)

So long as we work together and avoid the flaming griefer noobs, I'm totally up for helping to lead another big group.

Love me some crafting, MmmmmMMMmmmm! Crafting/building is my obsession :-P
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 12, 2012, 08:07:58 PM
The game is pretty tough. can't kill a thing with my fist or with a stick. Tough stuff.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 12, 2012, 08:22:39 PM
I !@#$ing love a good challenge! The harder the better! Joining now :-)
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 12, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
i played a bit of urban dead years ago.

come to think of it.. before bm (or was i still playing just when i started bm?)
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 12, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Alright, signing up for all 3.

Any specific jobs/professions you guys would like? I'd rather be of greater use to the team because I honestly don't care which job I take.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ketchum on August 14, 2012, 04:42:09 AM
I play Urban Dead before, many years ago before I join BM.

As human. I do the normal scavenge for useful stuff, then try run to safer building with better heavy barricade. Scavenge, get inside building, then scavenge and so on. Repeat this and you have collected some nice useful stuffs. One day the barricade is broken after many attacks by zombie. The survivors inside, were slaughtered. And everyone rise become zombie.

As zombie. My first time experience as zombie, so I not sure I am even a zombie yet. So I go try kill other zombie, the other zombie obviously stronger than me, kill me :P
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 14, 2012, 06:15:10 AM
LOL.

Also, I'm in Clay settlement in Shintolin, seems the members are actually active, as well as friendly. :3
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Iltaran on August 14, 2012, 07:51:51 AM
LOL.

Also, I'm in Clay settlement in Shintolin, seems the members are actually active, as well as friendly. :3

I found a stick! <.<
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 14, 2012, 08:50:51 AM
got myself a stone axe and stone spear. hehe
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 14, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
signed up to shintolin as jokan. in claystrand...

and no clue what i'm doing... in the middle of winter no less

now standing next to Ehndras
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 15, 2012, 12:44:18 AM
I'm on my way (gauihu) to Claystrand.

It's definitely good to have a spear or axe if you're going to bash things, or at least a hand ax, or a staff, rather than say a stick. Staves can be found in the woods as well as sticks. Sticks are much better for making campfires, useful for when you actually kill something and want to eat it. And it's good to get the hafting skill when you can, so you can make your own spears and axes. (They tend to break at most inopportune times.) The foraging skill is also really useful so you don't try to search for things when resources are scarce.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: De-Legro on August 15, 2012, 02:32:42 AM
Just started a character, will look at making him a crafter.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 15, 2012, 03:00:37 AM
I can't find blood bunnies to hunt. I tried to fight a mountain lion but got my ass kicked and some jack ass just knocked me out. Now I am crippled wtf.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 15, 2012, 06:35:45 AM
Crippled, rofl? They can do that? SWEET.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 15, 2012, 07:11:35 AM
Yeah when you lose all your hp you are crippled until someone heals you with a healing poultice.

Healing poultices are damn hard to get though.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 15, 2012, 08:07:46 AM
Make em? I found a few of those healing springs you need to make them, heh.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 15, 2012, 04:45:58 PM
A cup of herbal tea works too, and requires less thyme sprigs to make.  Though it does require more skill.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 15, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
... i'm going to have to figure out how to get xp to go farming XD
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 16, 2012, 12:47:09 AM
been hunting rabbits down. I doubt I will ever mess with mountain lions or sabre tooth tigers well until I get better weapons at least.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 16, 2012, 03:18:54 AM
I can't find blood bunnies to hunt. I tried to fight a mountain lion but got my ass kicked and some jack ass just knocked me out. Now I am crippled wtf.

Are you Revenant? I uncripped you.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 16, 2012, 04:56:29 AM
Are you Revenant? I uncripped you.

Nope I am Zakilevo.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Iltaran on August 16, 2012, 06:02:35 AM
Someone bashed Ehndras!
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 16, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Me too.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Iltaran on August 16, 2012, 07:15:24 AM
Daycryn, who are you in Shintolin?
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 16, 2012, 07:17:12 AM
Someone attacked me? God damn it, why?
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 16, 2012, 07:37:09 AM
If you guys move 30 squares to the right and 40 squares to the north, you guys will reach me ;)
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 16, 2012, 07:38:59 AM
Daycryn, who are you in Shintolin?

gauihu.

My other character shall not be named, but is the longest-surviving character in the world by about a year (real time).
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 16, 2012, 08:37:56 AM
can't find any bark XD (well found 1 days ago.. and that's it)
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Iltaran on August 16, 2012, 08:44:55 AM
can't find any bark XD (well found 1 days ago.. and that's it)

Look in forest squares. I found some without much difficulty
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 16, 2012, 01:40:18 PM
trouble is.. the woody squares were all depleted.. .or at least that's what it said last night.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 17, 2012, 07:09:36 PM
Find other woody squares. There's a bunch of them about.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 17, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
yeah.. found some this morning... now just need to find a guinea pig.

is Ehndras still playing or has he really quit?
---
fed and healed him... for the xp if nothing else.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Zakilevo on August 18, 2012, 04:50:51 AM
yeah.. found some this morning... now just need to find a guinea pig.

is Ehndras still playing or has he really quit?
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fed and healed him... for the xp if nothing else.

He quit.

And I can't find a place to build my totem pole... where ever I go it is keep telling me to build it else where...
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 18, 2012, 05:01:41 AM
I'll be back lol. I just temp-quit to focus on other things.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 18, 2012, 07:19:51 AM
oddly, i think i saw a revenant 2
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: De-Legro on August 18, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
oddly, i think i saw a revenant 2

Yes, I saw him too
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Cren on August 18, 2012, 09:33:15 PM
I till recently played a kick-ass char in Urban Dead, lvl 43 if I remember currectly. He was a skilled soldier, scientist, medic and a zombie. He reclaimed several buildings in (0, y) co-ordinates and set up his own den, lights on always with two exits and the rest extremely heavily barricaded. Sadly I don't play him anymore, lack of inspiration to continue.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 19, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
I can make herbal tea now. Better than poultices. So now I'm mostly just searching for thyme sprigs, willow bark, and hoping that in the process I continue to find enough food to not starve.

Hunting is cool, but it requires a lot of work to chase things down, leaving little to no time for searching.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ehndras on August 19, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
You guys know you can take from and add to the stockpiles in our settlement right?
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on August 19, 2012, 08:36:37 PM
Well, yes, but....


THATS SOCIALISM.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: fodder on August 19, 2012, 11:51:06 PM
haven't really taken anything from the stockpile... i mean.. i've taken things, only to put them right back because i can't actually use them...

otherwise, i've been dumping stuff in them.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Cren on August 22, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
Started a char named "Darkel" in Shintolin in your colony. Did a lot of foraging and I'm set for at least 5 days.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Sonya on August 22, 2012, 03:33:34 PM
I used to play Urban dead years ago, i should have a dead character around...


--------------------------- 20 minutes later -----------------

Ohh yea, i am still in Vinetown, was dead outside Gelasius General Hospital i use to be there.




peace!
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Daycryn on October 12, 2012, 11:34:45 PM
Oh, it seems Nexus War is still around - sorta:

Nexus Clash (http://www.nexusclash.com)

So I'm playing that now too.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Chenier on October 13, 2012, 04:28:39 PM
i played a bit of urban dead years ago.

come to think of it.. before bm (or was i still playing just when i started bm?)

An UD buddy brought me to this game.
Title: Re: Shartak, Shintolin, Urban Dead!
Post by: Ketchum on October 14, 2012, 03:25:36 AM
An UD buddy brought me to this game.
A recent zombies invasion saw many human become zombified for the first time. Including me :(