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BattleMaster => BM General Discussion => Topic started by: Silverfire on March 30, 2011, 06:39:37 AM
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So, I know that there is a wiki article about Character Limits but it is far lacking in the sort of specific information that I want.
The thing is that currently I have am able to have 3 Active characters and 3 noble characters. I want to know when I am able to get a 4th active character and a 4th noble character. (And don't just say donate, because my personal circumstances prevent that, although I would if I could. )
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/CharacterLimits (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/CharacterLimits)
So the article says that you can get a 4th active character through either being a long term player, or by gaining medals from the medal system. How long is "long-term?" Also, exactly how many medals do we need to be considered noteworthy by the medal system? I currently have 3 medals, so obviously this is not enough, or its a bug that I don't have the character. Also, my account has been active for over 2.5 years as of right now, but I've been playing far longer than that. (Old account pass was lost, so I had to recreate it. I'd been playing at least 2 years before the current account).
The article also states that family fame is the determining factor for when you can have a fourth noble character, and I'm wondering what threshold it is that I need to pass to reach this 4th noble character point. It isn't as pressing as wanting a 4th active character, because I plan to make the new one an adventurer anyway to start with, but would like to know anyway. My fame is currently at 27 which I would consider quite significant so, I'm wondering exactly how much someone is expected to get to...
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Pretty sure if you want to get 4th NOBLE character, you have to donate.
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Pretty sure if you want to get 4th NOBLE character, you have to donate.
Not true.
I'm not a donor, but can have 4 nobles. I just choose to have an advie.
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I have 3 nobles but cannot make advanturer :( started off with 3 nobles.
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Joined: 2005-09-24 16:42:39
Family Fame: 28
Medals: 9 trust, 9 roleplaying, 2 fun
Character limits are: 11 characters total, 4 active at the same time, 4 of those can be nobles
So at least with those numbers you can have 4 nobles. Could be that you're just one fame point away ;)
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Joined: 2008-06-10
Fame: 24
Medals: 4 trust, 1 RP
Donate: Yes
Character limits are: 8 total, 5 active, 5 nobles
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Joined: 2008-06-10
Fame: 24
Medals: 4 trust, 1 RP
Donate: Yes
Character limits are: 8 total, 5 active, 5 nobles
That's really weird, based upon these numbers, I should already have the ability to play 4 nobles.
Joined: 2008-06-11
Fame: 27
Medals: 3 trust
Donate: No
Character Limits are: 8 total, 3 active, 3 noble
Can a Dev say one way or another on this?
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That's really weird, based upon these numbers, I should already have the ability to play 4 nobles.
Joined: 2008-06-11
Fame: 27
Medals: 3 trust
Donate: No
Character Limits are: 8 total, 3 active, 3 noble
Can a Dev say one way or another on this?
Differences:
Donate: Yes for Sacha
Medals: 5 for Sacha
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Sahca has had his account one day more than you. Maybe you should wait until tomorrow and check again? ;D
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Differences:
Donate: Yes for Sacha
Medals: 5 for Sacha
Differences:
Donate: Yes for Sacha
Medals: 5 for Sacha
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The above refer to character limits,
However there is also the fame difference which should be the only thing that is holding be back from 4 noble characters. Except, I have 27 fame, he has 24 fame. So, I should have access to 4 nobles while he has 5 because of donate, if his amount of 24 fame is enough.
--------------Sahca has had his account one day more than you. Maybe you should wait until tomorrow and check again? ;D
For some reason, I find it odd that that might work. Mainly because I expect that he's had access to that many characters for more than one day, and because something along the lines of 2 years, 9 months, and 2.8 weeks doesn't seem like a real number as far as determining when you get another character.
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Differences:
Donate: Yes for Sacha
Medals: 5 for Sacha
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The above refer to character limits,
What I said refers to Active Limit, and you cannot have more nobles than active.
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How can you get 4 active characters of which only 3 may become a noble?
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How can you get 4 active characters of which only 3 may become a noble?
Adventurers.
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I currently have:
17 Fame
6 Trust Medals
1 Fun Medal
I do not donate and started almost a year to the day after Silverfire family.
I can have 4 characters active, 3 noble, 1 adventurer.
So you need to get one or two more medals I reckon, as seen from both my experience and Sacha's. Once I get more fame, I will likely be able to have 4 nobles active. That shouldn't be a problem for you though Silver ;)
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That's really weird, based upon these numbers, I should already have the ability to play 4 nobles.
Joined: 2008-06-11
Fame: 27
Medals: 3 trust
Donate: No
Character Limits are: 8 total, 3 active, 3 noble
Can a Dev say one way or another on this?
I'm thinking you have too few medals. I don't see why more characters should be given based on fame: it should be given based on contribution to the game, which seems most easily measured through proxy variables like donation, length of time, and medals.
My own setup is:
Joined: 2005-10-02
Fame: 30
Medals: 18 trust, 9 roleplaying, 9 fun
Donate: No
Character Limits are: 11 total, 4 active, 4 noble
And, my the beard of Zeus, I sometimes forget I've been playing this game for almost 6 years. I remember when I was the new kid on the block. Still feel like it with geezers like Tim hangin' around.
Whatever the case, I expect I'm closing to maxing out the character limits without donating, based on time, fame, and/or medals. So if you don't have as many character slots as you expect... hope you get medals?
Though there is not reason to complain about 3 characters, IMHO. That used to be all any non-donor got.
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Though there is not reason to complain about 3 characters, IMHO. That used to be all any non-donor got.
I forgot to add, "Back in my day, when we had to walk across broken glass uphill both ways just to move from one region to the next."
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What I said refers to Active Limit, and you cannot have more nobles than active.
Ahh, yes that is what I meant, but not what I said.
The active limit seems to be the operating point. I seem to have easily reached the threshold where I can have 4 noble characters, but have yet to reach the point where I can have 4 active characters. Quite frustrating it seems.
So, there are two methods by which I can get one more active character:(ignoring donation)
1. A certain amount of time being in the game. (Long-Term player)
2. A certain number of medals achieved. (Good contributing players)
So, for 1. Does anyone know how long this needs to be?
2. I believe we've nailed it down to being 5 medals at least?
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joined: 2006-02-14
The Indirik family from Montauban has a fame of 37 and 9986 gold of family wealth.
Your character limits are: 11 characters total, 5 active at the same time, 5 of those can be nobles
Donor: Yes
Trust: (15)
Roleplaying: (4)
Fun: (2)
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I'm thinking you have too few medals. I don't see why more characters should be given based on fame: it should be given based on contribution to the game, which seems most easily measured through proxy variables like donation, length of time, and medals.
More "noble" characters are given based upon fame, by what the wiki says. If the wiki is wrong, that would be good to know as well.
Though there is not reason to complain about 3 characters, IMHO. That used to be all any non-donor got.
I'm not complaining about having 3 Active characters, I am just interested when I will be able to have 4 characters, because comparing my statistics to other players who have slightly lower stats than me in some areas, but have more characters, it has piqued by interest. I like playing the game, and look forward to opening up a 4th career of a character. Right now, I can only have 3 storylines, going at once, and I am looking forward to some more. I don't want to lose any of my current characters as they are each individually very unique, but I want to try out a third continent once again. Is there something wrong with wanting to further add to the game?
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Ahh, yes that is what I meant, but not what I said.
The active limit seems to be the operating point. I seem to have easily reached the threshold where I can have 4 noble characters, but have yet to reach the point where I can have 4 active characters. Quite frustrating it seems.
So, there are two methods by which I can get one more active character:(ignoring donation)
1. A certain amount of time being in the game. (Long-Term player)
2. A certain number of medals achieved. (Good contributing players)
So, for 1. Does anyone know how long this needs to be?
2. I believe we've nailed it down to being 5 medals at least?
1. About 3 years IIRC.
2. Yes.
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I just realized something. I got my 5th active character slot before I got my 5th medal...
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I just realized something. I got my 5th active character slot before I got my 5th medal...
Um, that is really interesting. Any way to explain it? Could 4 medals be the limit?
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It's definitely not three. cuz I have three and my limit is 3 nobles.
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It's definitely not three. cuz I have three and my limit is 3 nobles.
I have 3 as well....That's what I'm trying to nail down.
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Joined: 2003-05-25
Fame: 33
Your character limits are: 13 characters total, 4 active at the same time, 4 of those can be nobles
Donor: no
Meh, I was stupid enough to go to Dwilight with one of my characters. Demand refund! ;D
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Can someone post the point at which I will be able to have 3 active nobles?
Have 4 fame, been playing for seven months, have no medals, and can currently have two active nobles.
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Can someone post the point at which I will be able to have 3 active nobles?
Have 4 fame, been playing for seven months, have no medals, and can currently have two active nobles.
I believe you need more fame.
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Thats weird. I made my 3rd noble after playing for 2 weeks.
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Maybe it's some kind of composite score with thresholds rather than a checklist. Like, a certain amount of medals gets you X "points" IF it is coincident with X threshold of fame?
Does it say something bad about me that such a system sounds like something I would do?
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Thats weird. I made my 3rd noble after playing for 2 weeks.
Huh, what are your family stats?
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I don't think there are any reqs for 3 active nobles as long as your profile is public. That was the same under the old system, and the major change was that more total characters can be played, and more active characters can be played after meeting certain reqs. But the 3 active nobles sounds like something available from the start so long as you make your family profile public.
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No, that's for how many active characters you can have. I just checked.
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From the wiki:
Initially, you can have 3 characters active. You begin the game as a minor noble family, which only has two noble character active at any time.
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Speaking of character limits, the first two sentences of this page are now outdated:
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Adventurer
Was this an intentional change in the game, and should the wiki now be changed to reflect the current state, not the prior state?
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Speaking of character limits, the first two sentences of this page are now outdated:
http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Adventurer
Was this an intentional change in the game, and should the wiki now be changed to reflect the current state, not the prior state?
Removed it. Those who would like to put in a more detailed description of requirements to replace it feel free to do so.
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From the wiki:
Initially, you can have 3 characters active. You begin the game as a minor noble family, which only has two noble character active at any time.
That doesn't answer my question. What do I need to have 3 nobles active at the same time?
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That doesn't answer my question. What do I need to have 3 nobles active at the same time?
I have already answered the question, please read my previous post.
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How does a page about adventurers tell about what I need to get three active nobles?
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I believe you need more fame.
That's the post, not the immediately preceding post.
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I can confirm that the 4th active character slot is received upon reception of at least 5 medals. I was at 3 and had hoped to catalogue whether it was at 4 or 5 that the cutoff was, but I found a way to gain 2 medals in a single day somehow and that blew me away, but I was thus not able to confirm 4 or 5. My guess is 5 simply because of the ease of using that number.
Anyway, that's the confirmation at least.
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I can confirm that the 4th active character slot is received upon reception of at least 5 medals. I was at 3 and had hoped to catalogue whether it was at 4 or 5 that the cutoff was, but I found a way to gain 2 medals in a single day somehow and that blew me away, but I was thus not able to confirm 4 or 5. My guess is 5 simply because of the ease of using that number.
Anyway, that's the confirmation at least.
I can also recently confirm this. 5 it is.
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yep it is five. I have four and still haven't unlocked another slot so it must be 5.
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I believe it is 20 fame and 5 medals as I didn't have access to a 5th noble until my fame was boosted, somehow, to 20 points.
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Well, how about this? My character limits don't seem to match up with what I've seen in this thread.
Joined: 2007-05-07 14:51:26
Family Fame: 20
Medals: None
Donate: No
Character limits: 10 total, 4 active, 4 nobles
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Well, how about this? My character limits don't seem to match up with what I've seen in this thread.
Joined: 2007-05-07 14:51:26
Family Fame: 20
Medals: None
Donate: No
Character limits: 10 total, 4 active, 4 nobles
Length of playing also contributes. I remember hearing it was around 3 years, but definitely not more than 4.
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Well, how about this? My character limits don't seem to match up with what I've seen in this thread.
Joined: 2007-05-07 14:51:26
Family Fame: 20
Medals: None
Donate: No
Character limits: 10 total, 4 active, 4 nobles
It certainly matches up if you read everything we've been saying. How does this contradict anything I've said? 8)
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Color me guilty of reading and posting while tired. Sorry!
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Color me guilty of reading and posting while tired. Sorry!
No problem, only meant to direct you to the previous posts. ;) This thread is supposed to help you after all.