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The Rules
Assassins is a variant of Werewolf, a game of paranoia, deception and betrayal. The ruler of Cathay has sent a diplomatic mission to Kindara to improve relations and hopefully end the war that devastates their lands. But there are those in both realms who do not want the war to end, and they have hidden Assassins in the Cathayan retinue to murder the Diplomats. The Diplomats outnumber the Assassins, but they don't know who to trust. Meanwhile, the Assassins know their fellow hitmen and can work together to even the odds. The Assassins want to kill enough Diplomats so that they can reach parity and murder the rest of the retinue with impunity; the Diplomats want to end the threat of the Assassins by uncovering their secret identities.
The Diplomats have the aid of a Sage, who can find the true allegiance of the Diplomats. This player must hide their identity just as much as the Assassins, as they are the greatest threat to the Assassins and will surely be killed if revealed.
It may seem like the Diplomats are powerless in this fight, but they are not. Every day the Diplomats gets to choose one person to execute, as punishment for the nightly murder. The Diplomats must vote to choose the person they think most likely to be responsible. With their vote, the Diplomats can reveal much about the motives of others. But they must be cunning, or more than a little lucky, if they are to survive.
Standard Big Rules
All roles will be handed out after the last person signs up, with all players receiving a PM containing their role and (known) traits. The game will then proceed to a night deadline.
The game is divided into two periods - night and day. For practical reasons these two periods are run concurrently, from one update till the next. Each update is 24 hours apart. Both the Assassins (privately) and the Diplomats (publicly) vote to decide who to murder/execute every day. At 5pm forum time each day, the execution will occur first, then the murder. Once the murder has been done, players are free to vote again.
In the case of a tie in execution voting, two or more may be executed. Assassins can also choose not to murder anyone on a particular night.
There are other roles that can be given to players, aside from Diplomat or Assassin. These will be explained later. Except for Diplomat and Assassin, not all Roles may be in every game.
Assassins will be divided into one or more Teams, with one Team hunting each night. The order the Teams hunt in will be known only to them.
The Assassins win if they manage to reach parity with the rest of the retinue. The Diplomats win if they manage to execute all the Assassins.
Standard Assassin Rules
§1A. - You sign up to the game by requesting so in a post in this thread.
§1B. - No new players will be admitted after the game has started, except to substitute for another player.
§1C. - You may at any time be substituted out by requesting so in the thread.
§1D. - Failure to vote on two occasions will lead to immediate substitution.
§2A. – Players will vote daily. See Rule 1D.
§2B. – Invalid votes (Voting for Game Moderator/Ghosts) will not be accepted and be considered to be in violation of Rule 2A.
§2C. – In the event of a tie, all tied players will be executed.
§2D. - The player(s) with the majority of votes at deadline are considered dead. They will not reveal any inside information after the deadline. The presumed dead player(s) should post in purple text until their true role is confirmed.
§3A. - Orders and votes submitted after deadline are ignored.
§3B. - Orders (scans, hunts, et cetera) are sent to the Game Moderator via PM.
§3C. - Players are responsible for any Private Messages missed due to inbox being full.
§4A. - Spectators and ghosts may comment, but never suggest a course of action, reveal any new information (including vote counts) or discuss any details of their former character, in the case of ghosts. Preferably spectators will comment only in a manner tangential to the actual game. This rule is super duper important, and if you break it, terrible and awful things will happen to you!
§4B. - When doing ghost/spectator commentary, please use a non-white colour.
§5. - Alliances and Feuds which aren't based on your characters or roles in the game between players are forbidden. Alliances and Feuds which continue from one game to another undermine the whole idea of the game.
§6A. – The Game Moderator has the last word on all matters.
§6B. – If the Game Moderator makes a mistake (e.g. with the vote count, hunt/scan orders), if critical information has been revealed, the mistake will be kept.
§7A. – Forging PMs is allowed. Screenshots of PMs are not.
§7B. - Posting or quoting of PMs from the GM is not allowed - real or forged.
§8A. – Voting must be done in the following way. Write "VOTE" and the person you are voting for in bold text.
§8B. - If you wish to un-vote someone, write "UNVOTE" and their name in bold text.
§8C. - In case of re-voting without un-voting the original vote will be the counted vote.
§8D. - Do not edit votes after posting them. If you make a mistake, unvote and revote in a new post.
§8E. - Votes should be oversized or clear of other text to ensure they are not missed by the GM.
§9. - The GM can and will remove players if the GM believes they are adversely affecting the game, for example through failure to fulfil voting obligations or deliberate violation of the rules. This will be done through the use of killing the player's role, or using substitutes, if they are available. All such decisions are made solely at the discretion of the GM.
§10. - Failure to vote on 2 occasions without prior notice will result in automatic substitution. If no substitution have been found 6 hours before deadline, the player will be auto-executed at next deadline.
§11 - Most games will start with one player dying on the very first night, without even having gotten to vote or otherwise participate. It sucks to get killed off first, but it's part of the game. On the upside, the first player killed automatically gets first dibs on Substitution, no matter who else has signed up for Subs.
NOTE: For this game an NPC will be the first murdered.
Deadline
The deadline of this game is 17:00 GMT+2 ( <- Forum Time. That's 11AM US Eastern Time)
Votes and orders made on 16:59 will count, while those made on 17:00 WILL NOT.
The Roles
Except for Diplomat and Assassin, all other Roles MAY, not will, be in the game.
Diplomat: The simplest role, a Diplomat knows nothing for sure, but can use the power of his vote to help execute others.
Assassin: A sinister, evil player who, along with his partners, try to eliminate all the good players. Each night, the Assassins hunt a player.
Sage: Can scan one person each night to check to see whether he is an Assassin or a Diplomat.
Guardian Angel: May choose to protect one person against Assassin attack every night, but can't choose to protect the same person two nights in a row and can never protect themselves.
(There are a lot more roles and traits, but we'll keep things simple for this game)
FAQ
1. Do I have to roleplay?
Nope. It's fun and helpful to, but its not required. Some players don't really roleplay at all, and instead simply post votes and accusations, and that's okay too.
2. What do I post?/I don't understand!
You can post anything you like, really. You don't even need to distinguish IC or OOC. Typically Diplomats will post accusations. "I think Velax did it, just because!" or "I think Velax did it, because last turn he voted against the guy who turned out to be an Assassin!" Accusations work better when you can back them up with some reason that you think the person is an Assassin. Trash talking is allowed and encouraged.
3. I'm an Assassin. What do I do?
You pretend to be a Diplomat, but you also conspire with your other Assassins to determine which innocent Diplomat to kill. The Assassins must all agree on a target, but can use whatever means they like for selection. Meanwhile, be sure to steer suspicion away from yourself, so you don't get executed!
4. I'm a Sage!
Great. You can try to figure out who is an Assassin. Communicate wisely though. If you post "Hey, I'm the Sage!", you might find a pack of Assassins visiting you that very night.
5. I'm still confused/I don't know who to vote for!
Either watch other players in action and see how they're doing it, or jump right in yourself. This game is both deadly serious while also quite comical, where people will accuse others for the slightest and most vague of clues, or just in retaliation for voting against them! The first round of voting is difficult, as the only way to try to tell who's an Assassin and who's not is to listen to what people are saying. In later turns you can try to identify patterns, or look for groups that vote together, or people who changed their votes to keep an Assassin from being executed.
6. Are Diplomat votes private or do they go in the main thread?
The votes are very definitely public!
7. Do Assassins vote with the Diplomats?
They certainly do. Assassins want to do everything they can to keep the naive Diplomats from suspecting that they're Assassins. If the Diplomats think you're an Assassin, they'll vote to execute you! So an Assassin's job is not only to kill Diplomats, but also to convince the Diplomats that they're actually innocent Diplomats as well!
8. WTF! I got hunted on the first night! This game sucks!
How did that happen? An NPC should have got executed instead!
9. Aw man, I'm just a Diplomat.
We can't all be Assassins. Have fun being a Diplomat. Root out the evildoers! Try not to be confused for an Assassin and executed by your fellow Diplomats!
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The Players
1. Zakilevo (Assassin) - Killed on Day 3.
2. Ketchum (Diplomat) - Hung on Day 1.
3. Barek (Diplomat - Witness) - Winner
4. Indirik (Assassin) - Hung on Day 4
5. Ross (Diplomat) - Winner
6. Slapsticks (Diplomat) - Murdered on Day 1.
7. Cren (Diplomat) - Winner
8. Lefanis (Sage) - Murdered on Night 3.
9. Yvonne (NPC) - Murdered on Night 0.
10. Penchant (Diplomat) - Winner
11. Fury (Diplomat) Hung on Day 2
12. Sonya (Diplomat) - Murdered on Night 2
The game has begun - no more players. Anyone else who wants to play will be made a sub.
The Substitutes
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The Events
Night 0 - Yvonne the Diplomat is brutally murdered while outside the camp.
Day 1 - The Diplomats turn on each other and hang an innocent man. Ketchum protested his innocence, but was not believed. No evidence was found to prove any guilt.
Night 1 - The Assassins take advantage of the tension and confusion to murder Slapsticks as he sleeps in his tent.
Day 2 - Accusations are made and a group led by Barek hangs an innocent Fury.
Night 2 - The Assassins continue their spree, murdering Sonya as she sits down to dinner.
Day 3 - Zakilevo the Assassin is finally caught, killed as he tried to escape the Diplomats and guards who had come to arrest him.
Night 3 - Lefanis the Sage is murdered as he attempted to divine the true identity of one of the retinue.
Day 4 - The final Assassin, Indirik, is caught in the act and hung.
Ross, Penchant, Barek and Cren are the winners!
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Sign me up.
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Count me in. My BM character Ash is a Diplomat, for sure I dont want miss out this one :D
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In :)
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I'm in.
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In
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in
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In.
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If we get another couple of players in the next hour (when the daily deadline is), we'll get started, otherwise it'll start tomorrow instead.
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I anticipate Lefanis will sign up, and probably a couple others from the other Werewolf game.
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I'll do it.
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One more! Someone go rope a buddy in!
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Can a guardian angel accidentally protect an assassin?
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Yes.
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vote unnamed-player-number-9, for making us wait till tomorrow for kick off.
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Sign me up, but make me player 10.
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Awesome! Player 9 can be the NPC that gets killed first. Let's get this puppy moving!
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I still have problems with that seer/sage part. Suppose he finds out the assassin, now he makes a public post that "Yes, X is the murderer, I saw him cleaning the blood stained blade" or something like that? Or he does it in some *secret* way?
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Sure. A werewolf would never post something like that, hoping to throw off the innocent villagers, and get them to lynch one of their own. Conversely, a Seer who makes his identity public should sleep well in the knowledge that a pack of werewolves would never target him first!
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I still have problems with that seer/sage part. Suppose he finds out the assassin, now he makes a public post that "Yes, X is the murderer, I saw him cleaning the blood stained blade" or something like that? Or he does it in some *secret* way?
Well it is much smarter to do it secretly because if you say you are the seer/sage the werewolves/assassins will try to get you killed.
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Well it is much smarter to do it secretly because if you say you are the seer/sage the werewolves/assassins will try to get you killed.
Secretly to whom, the GM I guess?
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Secretly to whom, the GM I guess?
The GM already knows who the Seer is. You could try PMing some of the other players, and hope that none of them are Secret Bad Guys.
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Most likely, if the Seer discovers that another player is a Secret Bad Guy, who would gently try to steer the village toward lynching that player.
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I'll start sending out PMs. Once I'm done I'll make a short RP to kick things off, then everyone can start voting for the first person to be executed.
Cren, the GM tells you the results of the Sage scan. What would be the point of then telling that back to the GM? The Sage needs to be careful who he tells. He needs to try to work out for sure who isn't an Assassin (for instance, someone who voted for an Assassin to be executed may be less likely to be an Assassin themselves) and then confide in that person. Or he could just try to influence the voting of others without coming right out and telling people he knows who it is.
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Sign me up for no. 11.
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This whole seer/sage thing is the toughest part, you need a lot of luck to figure out the baddies and report it to the true innocents. Best of luck to whoever gets to play one!
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@Velax, I would reccomend waiting to start even though I know everyone who has signed up wants to start, because of what happened in the other thread, we started and kept having people who wanted to join but hadn't signed up yet. The more people we have, the funner it is. Or you could start and add the new people to werewolves and villagers as we go along, maybe even adding one of the new people as seer so that not all of them are guranteed to be regular roles.
Edit: I guess I was a little late so I reccomend suggestion #2. Your choice though.
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Woo! Diplomat!
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Woo! Diplomat!
i trust you implicitly
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I can be a sub, unless you have inconveniences with me spamming the game ::)
peace!
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i trust you implicitly
That's for the best.
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The First Night
Yvonne stretches languidly, resisting the urge to go to bed. She still had so many documents to draft for the other Diplomats. Peace treaties, changes of region allegiance, food trades...it never seemed to end.
"Perhaps a quick walk will wake me up," she thinks to herself. Stepping outside the tent, she glances around. Night had fallen while she worked, and the forests of Edairn were beautiful in the moonlight. The Cathayan retinue had set up camp in a clearing a short distance from a river, and Yvonne walked in that direction, thinking to fetch some water for tea. She walked past a guard who made as if to follow, but she waved him away.
"Don't worry, it's perfectly safe. I'm not going far," she said as she rolled her eyes. "With the jumpiness of the guards, you'd think assassins were everywhere," she thought.
Taking a small path that meandered through the woods, she whistled softly to herself. The woods seemed to almost glow at night, with the moonlight filtering through the branches. Engrossed in looking around her, she almost fell into the river and jumped back, surprised.
"Hah, that would have made me look a right fo-" She stops mid-sentence and looks down, shocked, at the long blade that has appeared out of her chest. The Assassin behind her viciously twists his sword and Yvonne cries out in agony before sliding to the ground. As she dies, she glimpses a dark shape walking calmly away to disappear in the trees.
The first murder has been committed and the game has started! Start your votes for the first execution!
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VOTE SLAPSTICKS
It went well in the other game
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vote slapsticks
We'll just check to see if he's an assassin or not.
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I assume that we have 4 assassins to match our 11 players.
If we lynch one per day, that puts us at (worst case scenario):
day 1 4 - 7 > 4 - 6 > day 2 4 - 5 > 4 - 4 and loss during the night
So we get one mislynch.
If we double kill today,
4 - 7 > 4 - 5 > 4 - 4
So we need to kill one person today but not two people and we've got a single mislynch.
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I'm hoping 3 assassins.
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VOTE Barek (jerm) .
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3 assassins is kind of too easy. We should assume 4 assassins and go with the 1 mislynch strategy.
If you're the cop and you got an innocent, contact your innocent and tell him to out himself as your inno, and he can lead a lynch. Guardian protects the inno.
If you're the cop and you got a guilty, out yourself as cop and point at your guilty and the guardian will protect you.
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VOTE Barek (jerm) .
who is clearly not an assassin.
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unvote slapsticks
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3 assassins is kind of too easy. We should assume 4 assassins and go with the 1 mislynch strategy.
If you're the cop and you got an innocent, contact your innocent and tell him to out himself as your inno, and he can lead a lynch. Guardian protects the inno.
If you're the cop and you got a guilty, out yourself as cop and point at your guilty and the guardian will protect you.
Not cop, seer.
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Not seer, Sage. :P
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I assume that we have 4 assassins to match our 11 players.
Wait... if we there are 7 to 4, and we get it wrong and kill a diplomat, then they kill a diplomat, then it's 5 to 4 after the first day. Then one more day and it's game over. That's a bit too short, isn't it? But then again, 4-7 means a 37% chance the we guess right? So, better to go for a double-lynching every day?
Hmm...
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I dislike the idea of double-lynchings. I think the reward to risk is not great enough. But votes will tell.
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Wait... if we there are 7 to 4, and we get it wrong and kill a diplomat, then they kill a diplomat, then it's 5 to 4 after the first day. Then one more day and it's game over. That's a bit too short, isn't it? But then again, 4-7 means a 37% chance the we guess right? So, better to go for a double-lynching every day?
Hmm...
No. We should regular lynch today and if we hit a diplomat we double lynch tomorrow. Allowing them to kill a diplomat betters the odds for us so delaying the instance where we have to lynch or lose is a good thing,
Edit: but once we ARE in a lynch-or-lose scenario, then we want to double lynch because magnitude of loss is no big deal, we just want to hit a assassin no matter what. Right now, we don't NEED to hit a mafia, we just want to. So we single lynch with either the sage or the sage's innocent leading the lynch.
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I especially dislike double-lynchings early, when we're purely guessing.
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Oh. Well, I'm new at this, so I'll trust you. At least until I figure out how this thing works.
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No. We should regular lynch today and if we hit a diplomat we double lynch tomorrow. Allowing them to kill a diplomat betters the odds for us so delaying the instance where we have to lynch or lose is a good thing,
Edit: but once we ARE in a lynch-or-lose scenario, then we want to double lynch because magnitude of loss is no big deal, we just want to hit a mafia no matter what. Right now, we don't NEED to hit a mafia, we just want to. So we single lynch with either the cop or the cop's innocent leading the lynch.
unvote slapsticks
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So we single lynch with either the cop or the cop's innocent leading the lynch.
What does it mean to "lead the lynch"?
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What does it mean to "lead the lynch"?
Point the finger and tell us who to kill. Either the sage's innocent kills an unknown who's giving tells or the sage tells us to kill the guy he investigated and found guilty.
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Point the finger and tell us who to kill. Either the sage's innocent kills an unknown who's giving tells or the sage tells us to kill the guy he investigated and found guilty.
But... wouldn't that mean that the assassin's would be smart to not kill the guy "leading"? Because he's either not the sage, or he's protected by the angel. But then since the assassins won't want to kill the lead guy, then it makes no sense to protect him, or to not have the sage lead the charge... But diplos have to plan in public... so they can't really hide their intentions...
Damn. This is going to tie my brain in knots...
I think I'm going to need some Excedrin before this turn is even half done.
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But... wouldn't that mean that the assassin's would be smart to not kill the guy "leading"? Because he's either not the sage, or he's protected by the angel. But then since the assassins won't want to kill the lead guy, then it makes no sense to protect him, or to not have the sage lead the charge... But diplos have to plan in public... so they can't really hide their intentions...
Damn. This is going to tie my brain in knots...
I think I'm going to need some Excedrin before this turn is even half done.
Yeah, you end up with a "he knows I know he knows I know" scenario.
Though, to be honest, we want a diplomat to die since it helps our odds, and the GA can't protect himself, I think.
It's just better for the sage to protect the outed innocent since the odds of protecting the same person that gets shot (other than the outed inno) is one in ten.
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Weshouldtry that.
Ross makes a speech to the diplomats assembly:
Dear assassins,
While we do firmly believe how necessary it is to randomly lynch people without enough proofs and trials, we don't want to kill innocent, valuable and loyal diplomats like me. If one of you wishes to confess is crime, quick and painless death will be offered (except for Slapsticks he likes dying too much and he's clearly sadomasochist) . I know you are concerned to the well-being of our group.
With love,
Ross
Now let's hope an assassin replies to us.
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Good plan Ross.
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Though, to be honest, we want a diplomat to die since it helps our odds
Wait... what? Wouldn't it be better to kill an assassin?
Remind me to never be on your side...
Wait, what side are you on, anyway? "We want a diplomat to die" sounds kinda like something an assassin would say. ???
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omg he said he wants to kill a diplomat, arrest him!
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I do believe the best way is to avoid the double lynch unless we are almost certain that between the 2 there's one assassin and we are not near parity.
*( ex. 2 persons claim to be the sage and make accusations against each of them, better to kill the 2, anyway the real sage is in danger to be killed next night since he revealed himself. ) *
Unless that, we should try to slow down the pace on the lynch, 1 per day is fine, to help us gather proofs and to give a chance to the non-assassin specialized diplomats to do their jobs.
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Double lynch... just lost villagers a game... damn werewolves. should change the rule on that. flipping a coin might be a simple solution.
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Just saying, on the first day the seer doesn't know anyone so the first day is still a guess. Also, the diplomats have to vote in public but they don't have to plan in public. You can do PM's. The last game Ehandras, Velax, and I were PMing and he convinced us he was an innocent, so he "convinced" (we didn't really argue or anything) us to vote to kill an innocent while Ehandras was killed by some ignorant innocent's and the other werewolves. So you can plan in private but it is difficult to know that they are innocent beyond the sage knowing for sure that the person is innocent.
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I'm not totally for or against PM. For myself, i prefer to avoid PM because it's far from necessary, i think it's more funny when it's public even for "temporary alliance" there's no benefits to hide your discussion since you can't be sure the person you talk with is "clean".
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Wait... the rules specifically say that diplos/villagers are discouraged from using PMs. To then use them extensively is against the entire spirit of the game.
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Discouraged. Not prohibited. The player who makes wise use of PMs is the victorious player. Demonstrably.
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Wait... the rules specifically say that diplos/villagers are discouraged from using PMs. To then use them extensively is against the entire spirit of the game.
I agree and welcome that rule then. I consider It is against the spirit of the game as well.
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No, that doesn't make sense. You can't say "you're not supposed to PM, we encourage you to do everything in the open, it's more fun for everyone", and then turn around and say "the one who PMs best, wins". That's crap.
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Perhaps Velax can clarify how he wants this game to go.
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I just copied that rule from the other game, but personally I don't see any real issue with Diplomats using PMs. It seems to me a big part of this game is double dealing, trickery and misdirection, and that's more easily done privately. If you RP it, Diplomats wouldn't always be talking in a group with everyone, when they know Assassins are among them. They'd be talking in small groups as well, to the Diplomats they're reasonably sure aren't Assassins. And without PMs, the usefulness of the Sage's ability is significantly lessened.
In the interests of experimentation, I'll remove the "PMs discouraged" rule entirely for this game, so people can PM as they wish. Then next game I'll ban non-Assassin PMs, and we'll see which one makes for a more fun game.
Edit: I'll also point out that PMs were not used "extensively" in the other game. The whole "convince them I'm innocent and get them to vote for a villager" thing involved all of three PMs from me.
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Thank you Velax for your experimentation.
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Yeah, when I wrote that line, it was meant to do exactly that, discourage players relying on or overusing PMs in order to do more in public. Not to eliminate it. But each GM should certainly change the rules to suit their game!
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I don't see anything wrong with PMs, because there will be times when a diplomat will speak privately to another, still.. who will let another diplomat enter their room without knowing is is a assassin.
I have no idea if i should give hints on this game, since i was a villain on another, i should keep the secrecy, and let everyone learn by themselves.
Now, need to clean my mind from last game, so i can think on RPs for this new one.
Peace!
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I'm fine with either way, I think we just need to be clear on the expectations. So thanks for clearing it up.
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Ok I'm fine with that
What we were talking about before ? Any potential assassins need to be lynch or we only have Slapsticks we can spare ? : P
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Hmm, who to vote to lynch?
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I'll probably vote for a silent diplomat they are the more shady one.
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Early in the morning there was a run around in the whole embassy, Sonya open her eyes on the commotion, when someone hardly knocks the door.
Sonya: coming!
She replies while covering herself with the blanket, and opening the door.
Sonya: what is the meaning of this? Why you wake me up at this hour?
Guard: where were you last night.
Sonya: why the sudden question?
Guard: there was an assassination?
Sonya: really? Who was killed?
Guard: Yvonne has been killed; your presence is required on the main hall, the others ambassadors are gathered there.
Sonya: sure will be there shortly.
After a while she enters the main hall, the others ambassadors were in state of disarray, distrust and commotion.
Ross:……………you are concerned to the well-being of our group. With love, Ross!
Sonya: excuse me if I am late, what is going on here… Ambassador Ross, what were you talking about and why were you talking on third person? Alas what is that loving thing?
Everyone keep silent, kicking a chair Sonya break the silence heating up more the commotion.
Sonya: what is the meaning of this? Ambassadors, is this how Kindara seek peace? Tell your ruler that the peace talks are over, and war will most likely to come!
Sonya dashes towards the door when a guard stopped her from opening the door.
Guard: sorry miss, but no one is allowed to leave the embassy, until the culprit is found every ambassador will stay within the palace
(Note: since we don’t have scenery set, I will suppose won’t be in open village, but on a great palace, of course, it can be subject to change)
Sonya: this can’t be true; you can’t let me here with assassins, THIS IS MADNESS!
Guard: Madness?.................This is…
Sonya: shut UP! And let me pass!
Guards: the ambassadors are speaking of a way to find the assassin within you, by yourselves. Our duty is to make sure that no assassin leaves the palace, if no assassin is found we will kill everybody. Please go to them, since the assassin is one of you, you must think who the criminal is.
Sonya turns around to the ambassadors, kicking another chain in the process.
Sonya: well, fine. Let’s do this! Now, I wish to know what everyone was doing last night, so I can judge who of you i will send to behead.
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You are right Ambassador Sonya, the use of the third person and make a mockery of this situation during a speech is not really adequate for a diplomat, please pardon my insouciance. This assassination... the fact that one of us or maybe few of us have commit this terrible act in such... crucial moment. This is making me very nervous and make me lose my mind. I was just ironically pointing out that to recover our liberty, and allowing us to pursue our vital mission it would be easier if those treasonous individuals surrender and confess to crime. Anyone has seen something suspicious last night ?
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Well, I didn't see anything. I sleep very soundly, and usually wake up late. But you can be sure that I, and my assistant, will be keeping a close watch tonight.
But do we really have to vote to kill one of our own? How will we know who did it?
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Sorry. I was invited to a banquet. I was too busy drinking there, didn't notice anything suspicious.
If I do find something, I will report to the guards right away.
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I, and my assistant,
You have an assistant?!?! WTF! How come I don't have one? /glares at Game Moderator
Its well known that once assassins infiltrate a retinue, they'll just pick us off one by one. So the only thing to do is to start "testing" ourselves to see whom among us are assassins.
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All diplomats worthy of the title have assistants. If you don't have one, then you must be too junior to be worthy of one. All Diplomats know that's how it works.
Hmmm.... maybe the reason you didn't know this is because you're not really a diplomat at all... what were *you* doing last night?
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vote Indirik
For having an assistant. And then being snotty about it.
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I was at the same banquet as Zakilevo, though with him drinking so much and flirting with all the women he might not remember me being there. Why is Barek avoiding Sonya's question of where he was last night though?
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I was at the same banquet as Zakilevo, though with him drinking so much and flirting with all the women he might not remember me being there. Why is Barek avoiding Sonya's question of where he was last night though?
I was diplomating, duh.
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Woo! Diplomat!
Clearly I am not an assassin. I don't even have an assistant.
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That's because you're family is too poor to afford one. ;)
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That's because you're family is too poor to afford one. ;)
Your.
You're = you are.
unvote Indirik
vote Indirik
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Apparently my family isn't rich enough to hire good scribes.
However, I shall not be so petty as to vote based on personal squabbles. I shall use logic to deduce the assassin's identity!
I think slapsticks is the assassin. He already stated he wants diplomats to die. That sounds like an assassin-ish kind of thing to say. So if he's the assassin, we are much better off for him to be gone. And if he's an innocent diplomat, well, he wanted the innocent to die first, so he gets what he wants, and he has nothing to complain about.
VOTE SLAPSTICKS
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I have to say that is amazing logic because you are right, either we end up killing an assassin or we kill an innocent diplomat just like he wanted.
VOTE SLAPSTICKS
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I VOTE Sonya. She is RPing! Trying to divert our attention!
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Vote Slapsticks!
So many suspicions, so little time! Best to move against the admitted diplomat hater.
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Day 1 voting (12 hours to go)
Slapsticks (3 votes) - Indirik (86), Penchant (87), Lefanis (89)
Barek (1 vote) - Cren (37)
Indirik (1 vote) - Barek (85)
Sonya (1 vote) - Zakilevo (88)
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There are far better day 1 lynchings than Slapsticks. He at least has some grasp of strategy and gameplay. He could be an assassin, sure, but on the other hand, we have a bunch of players who have either not even posted yet, or have thusfar been useless. Its early yet - 12 hours to go.
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I am telling you guys, Barek is the assassin. We all have a assistant, please tell me why he is all alone? On the other hand, assassins always travel alone. He is the killer. KILLER!
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If only I had traveled here alone. In fact, I traveled here with your mother, Cren, but she's become a terrible bore. Besides, there's the entire camp staff, which I have traveled with. I am but a humble diplomat (which perhaps is why Cren's mother adores me so much, since he turned out so poorly).
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Really, I didn't see her. Don't tell stories, she would definately meet me if she came along.
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She's just been so busy. She sends her regards.
xoxoxo
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So, not voted:
Ketchum
Ross
Fury
Sonya
We have three or four assassins among us, I wager.
I'll share a secret, since I am not an assassin. Its sometimes easier to figure out who is NOT an assassin, than to figure out who IS an assassin. Sadly, today we're just guessing, and looking for ridiculous tells, like Cren's mother whispering to me how he's always loved assassins and such.
Still, statistics. We must eliminate one of us today. At best, we kill an assassin. At worst, we kill a diplomat, but that very thing makes it harder for the assassins to hide.
For the time being, I'm switching my vote to the thusfar-useless, despite Indirik's terrible choice in scribes.
unvote Indirik
vote Ketchum
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Slapsticks has also not voted yet, having withdrawn his original vote for himself.
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Slapsticks has also not voted yet, having withdrawn his original vote for himself.
Him too.
Dirty non-voter.
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UNVOTE SONYA
VOTE KETCHUM
DEATH TO NON VOTERS!
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Sucks how the sage/inno isn't revealing. Whatever. We should keep in mind, then, that if we kill a non-talker there is a high chance that that person is the sage, but a useless one. I am down with a Ketchum vote.
vote ketchum
Also, I like how I'm the immediate bandwagon choice by virtue of the fact that I'm like the only person trying to make a coherent strategy.
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On the other hand, we need to not double kill today. I would much prefer to die alone than to bring Ketchum, who may be inno, with me. Another day for the cop to search is a good thing and instalosing here is baaaad.
@Velax: If my vote against Ketchum would cause a double kill against himself and me, please move my vote from him to myself.
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VOTE KETCHUM
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@Velax: If my vote against Ketchum would cause a double kill against himself and me, please move my vote from him to myself.
I can't do that, I'm afraid. All Diplomats (or people pretending to be Diplomats) get one vote. No "If this happens I vote for X, but if something else happens I vote for Y."
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I can't do that, I'm afraid. All Diplomats (or people pretending to be Diplomats) get one vote. No "If this happens I vote for X, but if something else happens I vote for Y."
makes sense, I'll just try to be on.
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Day 1 voting (1.5 hours to go)
Slapsticks (3 votes) - Indirik (86), Penchant (87), Lefanis (89)
Barek (1 vote) - Cren (37)
Ketchum (4 votes) - Barek (96), Zakilevo (99), Slapsticks (101), Ross (102)
Ketchum, Fury and Sonya are yet to vote. Better get a move on.
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I checked in late after some diplomacy in a different land with a different time zone and have received my new diplomatic credentials late and I was late to arrive to this diplomatic engagement and slept soundly through the night and most of the day and have only now been informed of the murder.
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Slapsticks seems too crazy to be a diplomat and people think Ketchum is keeping too quiet when a murder has happened. So I say we test both of them and go for a double.
VOTE Slapsticks
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Sorry i have been waiting, to heard everyone excuse for NOT being the Assassin.
Still by now i haven't found any clue, or mistake on everyone's action to warrant my accusation to some one. Once again will review the conversation and vote.
Since as diplomats we cant just simply point some one, we aren't commoners, there must be any kind of prof or we will be hanging an innocent diplomat.
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Hmmm... Funny how Sonya and Fury respond in consonance. Perhaps they are the assassins and are trying to kill off us innocent ambassadors.
So, to prevent double lynching-
UNVOTE SLAPSTICKS VOTE KETCHCUM
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So far as today:
Zakilevo - was in a private banquet where no one else was invited, also doesn’t trust me, or is accusing me.
Barek- Upset for not having an assistant also explodes on rage and insults.
Indirik - Distrust Barek for the lack of knowledge, which any diplomat should have
Penchant – was with Zakilevo in the private party, since both were together, by the time we find one as assassin, the other should be as well.
Lefanis – suspects everyone, voted blindly?
Cren – Believes that Barek is the Assassin, for lack of Ambassador Credentials.
Ross - voted ketchun who haven’t come.
Slapsticks – is being cautious, maybe too much…….have to keep an eye on him, but is not the first suspect.
Fury – not enough info…… yet
Ketchun – where in the hell is he?
Well i have decided to VOTE FOR Ketchun he should have been a present by now.
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Slapsticks seems too crazy to be a diplomat and people think Ketchum is keeping too quiet when a murder has happened. So I say we test both of them and go for a double.
Did you read what I said about a double here? It's sort of the opposite of what we need to do.
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Day 1 and Night 1
Slapsticks (3 votes) - Indirik (86), Penchant (87), Fury (107)
Barek (1 vote) - Cren (37)
Ketchum (6 votes) - Barek (96), Zakilevo (99), Slapsticks (101), Ross (102), Lefanis (109), Sonya (110)
The brutal murder of Yvonne shocked the diplomatic retinue. Everyone demanded answers. They spent the day arguing with each other, attempting to root out the hidden Assassins in their retinue. Arguments turn to accusations and recriminations and eventually everyone turns on the most quiet of their group - Ketchum.
The Diplomats drag Ketchum outside, kicking and screaming. They order the guards to set up a rope and noose from a nearby tree. Ketchum struggles hard, protesting his innocence and begging the others to calm down and see reason. They do not. The guards string the screaming Ketchum up by his neck. He thrashes on the end of the rope, legs and arms waving in the air as he attempts to free himself. Eventually his body stills and he hangs there, swinging in the breeze.
The other Diplomats raid Ketchum's tent, looking for evidence he was responsible for the murder of Yvonne, but find nothing.
Ketchum the innocent Diplomat was executed.
That night, there were sounds of creeping and skulking around the delegation. The unknown figures were quietly arguing in whispers.
"I say we go for the quiet one."
"No, he's no danger. Let's go for the noisy one!"
"No, no, no...he's too obvious. Besides, the boss says we have to leave him alone."
"I say we get the rich guy."
"Alright, shut up! Everyone knows how it works, it has to be unanimous. Now here's how it's gonna work...."
It was decided in a few minutes. The assassins crept off to do their grisly work. The next morning, the body of one of the Diplomats was found in his tent, murdered.
Slapsticks the innocent Diplomat was murdered.
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Yay!
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Yay!
Guess you're exonerated.
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Slapsticks seems too crazy to be a diplomat and people think Ketchum is keeping too quiet when a murder has happened. So I say we test both of them and go for a double.
VOTE Slapsticks
Fury was happy to let two non-assassins die in a tie.
Vote Fury
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OOPS. I was only voting what everyone one was voting. Anyway, how do we know they were diplomats? The most that we did is we searched their bodies and their rooms and found nothing incriminating. Bollocks I say!
Hmmm... Funny how Sonya and Fury respond in consonance. Perhaps they are the assassins and are trying to kill off us innocent ambassadors.
UNVOTE SLAPSTICKS VOTE KETCHCUM
Hey, we said nothing in consonance at all - totally different! This one's a liar.
VOTE Lefanis
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Do you think we arose to our title of ambassadors by being fools, Fury? I tried to prevent the death of an innocent diplomat at sunset. I moved to prevent a double lynching. Now you are trying to bump me off because I got in the way of your wicked assassin plans.
VOTE FURY
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Vote fury
No doubt.
Edit: removed last part, i'm thinking about it.
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Indirik shook his head at the news that Slapsticks had been murdered. "Well, he got what he wanted, an innocent is dead."
Indirik's assistant spoke quietly: "Is that what they call ironic?"
Indirik looked sharply at the assistant. "You really are a pathetic scribe aren't you?"
The scribe's face assumed a sheepish expression. "As you say, m'Lord."
"No, that's irony. Irony would be if I were to say 'You're a really amazing scribe.' Anyway, I'm not jumping on this "Hang Fury" bandwagon. I'm worried about Lefanis. He said he thought two people could have been assassins, and then voted for a completely different person. That sounds kind of assassin-ish to me."
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I have no doubt that there are two, possibly more assassins. I am telling you guys, Barek is one. And I have suspicion on Zakilevo and Ross too.
VOTE Barek.
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I have no doubt that there are two, possibly more assassins. I am telling you guys, Barek is one. And I have suspicion on Zakilevo and Ross too.
VOTE Barek.
That's an excellent plan, Cren. Vote for the guy who's actively trying to work out who the assassins are. Slapsticks is gone, which is a shame, since he has a good eye for analysis. So definitely vote for me if you want the assassins to win.
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How do you know Barek is an assassin? Not that I'm saying you're wrong, or anything. Just curious, you know.
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How do you know Barek is an assassin? Not that I'm saying you're wrong, or anything. Just curious, you know.
He's either grasping at straws, which is certainly possible, though I'd hope he would spend his vote more wisely-
Or he's an assassin. Which is possible. He was a werewolf in the last game, and I assume Velax has done roles randomly, so he could certainly have gotten werewolf/assassin again. Aside from his insistence that I'm an assassin though, I don't see any tells that peg him as an assassin yet.
So yes - Cren, why me over Fury?
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Hah! I know what Cren means.
UNVOTE Lefanis. Still a liar but we'll get him next day.
VOTE Barek We'll get one for sure this time.
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Hah! I know what Cren means.
UNVOTE Lefanis. Still a liar but we'll get him next day.
VOTE Barek We'll get one for sure this time.
That's right, the best way for the assassins to stay alive is to shut down the analysis.
Convince me otherwise, Fury. Convince me that you're not an assassin.
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I have based my suspicions based on the diplomat's behaviour and voting pattern. Those 3 voted against an innocent Slapsticks, he luckily is saved from hanging but gets a sword in his gut minutes later. So whom did you think it to be, huh?
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I have based my suspicions based on the diplomat's behaviour and voting pattern. Those 3 voted against an innocent Slapsticks, he luckily is saved from hanging but gets a sword in his gut minutes later. So whom did you think it to be, huh?
This makes no sense. I didn't vote for Slapsticks.
As I said, I strongly suspect Fury because he gladly tried to send both Slapsticks and Ketchum - both innocents - to the lynchin' tent. Why would he do that? If he was an assassin and knew that both were innocent, then he'd be delighted to see us lynch two innocents.
I'm suspicious of you as well though Cren, since you seem to be targeting me, despite evidence pointing toward other people.
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How to tell if someone is an assassin:
Votes consistently for people who are innocent.
Casts votes for people without any supporting evidence.
Can't really make a descent case for why they're /not/ an assassin.
Fury meets these criteria, and you're mighty close Cren.
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Those 3 voted against an innocent Slapsticks
What are you talking about? None of those three voted for slapsticks. I think you're just picking people at random. That sounds suspicious enough for me.
VOTE CREN
I'll change my vote, though, if you can somehow convince me you're not an assassin.
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How an assassin throws people off his scent:
Votes consistently for people who are innocent.
Casts votes for people without any supporting evidence (doesn't need to since he knows who all the assassins are).
Can't really make a decent case for why they're /not/ an assassin (sometimes the harder you protest the more suspicious you sound).
Like I said I only voted for those already in the running since I woke up late and I heard they had trouble in a neighbouring land with werewolfs and they seemed to think a double hanging would work (it didn't) but doesn't mean it couldn't work here.
TLDR: I think I know who Cren is and I'm just going to keep it simple.
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Fury -3- Barek(115), Lefanis(117), Ross(118),
Barek -2- Cren (120), Fury(124)
Cren -1- Indirik (129)
vn - Sonya, Penchant, Zakilevo
I bet Fury and Cren are assassins. Not sure about more.
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I will also be shocked if I survive the night. But the proof will be in the pudding.
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Take everything he says with a grain of salt!
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Furywolf's defense is impregnable.
"Fury, convince us that you're no assassin."
"Well, Barek's signature says suchandsuch!"
You've been reading Sun Tzu, haven't you?
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Take Barek down and we take down one assassin already - it's that simple! If no incriminating evidence is found then... well, then Cren is so dead.
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For myself, i find very contradicting Cren and Fury. While i can't convince you, i strongly suggest to avoid voting for anyone else, and splitting vote may result in a double lynch we can't afford.
Cren in my opinion is totally irrational, he never vote with the masses and vote blindly on random fact. Saying me and Barek are suspicious.
Fury, clearly tried to double lynch 2 innocents.
I said so far, to don't lynch Slapsticks, eliminate the silent one first (ketchum) since we had no clue who to vote, avoiding double lynching to give time to specialized non-assassins diplomats to do their job. Why that would be suspicious?
Unless proven otherwise, theses 2 are either assassins, or innocents diplomats putting our survival at risk, in both case they are expendable or deserve to die.
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Alright, i never wished, supported or voted against Slapsticks, after analyzing everything again Cren is making too much contradictions. I will not act against him only because he considers me suspicious. I will wait to see the opinion of the majority. But my vote will go to either Fury or Cren.
UNVOTE FURY
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What we know- Fury wanted two innocent diplomats dead. He wants me dead (because I'm a liar, apparently). He wants me and Barek dead, when there is no evidence against either of us. He is almost certainly one of the assassins.
I have based my suspicions based on the diplomat's behaviour and voting pattern. Those 3 voted against an innocent Slapsticks, he luckily is saved from hanging but gets a sword in his gut minutes later. So whom did you think it to be, huh?
Lolz. You have targeted the same diplomat from day one, despite evidence against Fury.
I say we lynch both Fury and Cren. We rid ourselves of two assassins in one day. Sonya, Penchant and Zakilevo, I hope you make the right decision. We need to root out the assassins soon, and these guys are them.
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Is it really a good idea to do a double lynching? I thought that stuff was last-ditch effort when it'd do-or-die time.
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I'd generally be against double lynching at this stage, but the evidence is piling up against Fury and Cren.
Fury I'm fairly certain about, based on his voting suggestions day 1, and their turnout, combined with his attacks against me, and complete lack of even a basic "I'm no assassin" defense. Cren seems like a really strong candidate for an assassin as well, though it could just be unfortunate foolishness on his part.
If we could swing a double lynching against them, I'd be for it.
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Fury -2- Barek(115), Lefanis(117)
Barek -2- Cren (120), Fury(124)
Cren -1- Indirik (129)
vn - Sonya, Penchant, Zakilevo, Ross
I'm a little confused as to why Ross has withdrawn his vote. To wait and see what the majority does??
I still think there are 3 assassins among us. Fury (likely), Cren (possibly), and I'm really unsure on the third. Ross maybe, for his strange voting. Sonya maybe, also for strange voting and logic. Penchant and Zakilevo have been pretty quiet, which is sometimes an indicator of either wolfishness or villager power role. Hard to say.
Indirik and Lefanis I think are both in the clear, and I am clearly no assassin.
Also, we're highly unlikely to secure a double against Fury and Cren. Let's assume for a second that they're both wolves, and that there's a third in the mix. That's three votes that we can't count on. And let's assume that we could rally the other votes to our cause. That's 6 Good Guy votes, at best we could do 3 and 3, and the bad guys would counter by doing 3 for one of us. I say we focus on Fury, hope our Seer can uncover some more truth, and see how it plays out.
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Vote Barek, you are eager to blame others but have still not told anyone where you were on the first night. Oooo, what would be very unique and basically gurantee killing a assassin is a triple lynching but is quite risky since if we kill only 1 assassin we end up at 3vs3 which is parity still if we have 4 assassins.
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VOTE Barek
I don't trust people when they say they are 'clearly no assassin' :p
*Sorry guys. I am somewhat busy this weekend. Can't RP too much.
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lol
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Are you guys !@#$ting me?
Fury has given nothing to explain his desire for a double on day 1 - for a pair of innocent villagers.
I thought I did explain where I was on the night of the murder, I was doing cardio with Cren's mother! Geez guys.
I'm going to say "I told you so" in enormous letters if you guys lynch me. Sigh.
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Day 2 voting (11 hours to go)
Fury (2 votes) - Barek (115), Lefanis (117)
Barek (4 votes) - Cren (120), Fury (124), Penchant (142), Zakilevo (143)
Cren (1 vote) - Indirik (129)
Ross and Sonya have yet to vote.
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I really consider killing myself now.
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Seriously why ?
Person A clearly go against general consensus aim to get 2 persons dead 1st day, both innocent, put ourselves at risk acting in a way to CLEARLY harm us and then make FALSE accusation ( said I didn't like 3 person bc they vote against Slapstick while none of the 3 did)
Person B acted against double lynching innocent, act and make recommendation to help us and participate in debate. His assumption so far was right like me.
Then person A accuses B and others WITHOUT any logic reason ( I think he said I vote for him I hope some of you know why ? ) Isn't it shady ?And people follow him because " I find suspicious he said I am clearly not an assassin".
Big news guys : I am clearly not an assassin too.
VOTE ROSS
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And now someone bring discussion about triple lynching...
Sigh
Assassins are clearly acting together.
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Or against them I suspect assassins trying to lynch one of their group to buy trust.
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Perhaps there are four assassins, not three (Or maybe there is an idiot there... Seriously, who votes for someone just because he says he isn't an assassin?)... But anyway, they clearly have the voting advantage unless the real ambassadors work together. We need to take Fury out and even the odds, instead of lynching another innocent, after which we won't be abe to defeat their voting block.
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Whoa, I am so dead on Day 1 :P
So being very extremely quiet although innocent will cause you to die. Muahahaha ;D
Who's next to vote? Can a dead person vote in this game? ::)
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If you're dead, please post in coloured text. And yeah, you can vote. But I'll ignore it. :P
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Vote Barek
Simple reason, he vote me first 8)
Send a nudge to every diplomat mind :P
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Day 2 voting (2 hours to go)
Fury (2 votes) - Barek (115), Lefanis (117)
Barek (4 votes) - Cren (120), Fury (124), Penchant (142), Zakilevo (143)
Cren (1 vote) - Indirik (129)
Ross (1 vote) - Ross?! (148)
Sonya has yet to vote.
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Well played, Assassins.
I'll be curious to see if Fury is as guilty as I suspect he is, or if he's just foolish. The same is true for Cren.
Zakilevo and Penchant are either bandwagoners, or sneaky assassins. Sage, I'd probably try to scan Zak and Penchant to determine their status.
Goodbye cruel world! Goodbye Cren's mother! Goodbye Masahakon!
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UNVOTE ROSS.
VOTE FURY
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Ok everyone it's late for this.
But I am the Sage, i can confirm to you Barek and Lefanis are not assassins. I might die tonight tho.
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UNVOTE BAREK
VOTE FURY
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Day 2 and Night 2
Fury (4 votes) - Barek (115), Lefanis (117), Ross (157), Cren (159)
Barek (3 votes) - Fury (124), Penchant (142), Zakilevo (143)
Cren (1 vote) - Indirik (129)
The murder of Slapsticks proved the Diplomats had hung the wrong person, and that they were still in trouble. The arguments continued throughout the day, distracting them from their diplomatic duties, just as the Assassins hoped. That evening Barek assembled a small group of Diplomats and guards and marched on the tent belonging to Fury. They entered and found him signing some documents. Before he could protest, they tied him up and dragged him to a nearby tree. Within minutes Fury was swinging on the end of a rope, another man executed in the hunt for the Assassins.
The group searches Fury's tent, but nothing was found to incriminate him.
Fury the innocent Diplomat was executed.
Under the moonless night sky, shadowy figures gathered in a small clearing of a nameless forest. The biggest of the shadows whispered.
"Who should we hunt tonight?"
"Let's go for the talkative one."
"Which talkative one?"
"The one who likes analyzing."
"Oh that one. The annoying one. Yeah, let's go for him."
"So are we all in agreement? Good. Time to work then."
The shadows nodded and left the forest without making any sound.
Next morning, another body was found dead, slumped over in her dinner, her throat slit from ear to ear. There was a shocked look on her face, as though she had recognised her murderer before the knife went in.
Sonya the innocent Diplomat was murdered.
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" But I am the Sage, i can confirm to you Barek and Lefanis are not assassins."
You lie, Ross! The sage can only investigate one person per night, and there has only been one night to search! The only reason you would have to name two people is because one of them is an assassin! So which is it, Barek or Lefanis? Probably Barek, since he has taken the lead in fingdering people for execution. Let's see what happens with the voting tonight. Did Barek mark another innocent for death, whil his accomplice Ross proclaims his innocence?
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Oh, look, Barek lead the charge to hang another innocent man. Does anyone think that this is a coincidence?
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Well I was wrong about Fury, but I stand by the evidence that pointed to him. He made no defense of his voting.
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Oh, look, Barek lead the charge to hang another innocent man. Does anyone think that this is a coincidence?
Unfortunate, for sure. Let's discuss evidence then, since I've been the only one doing so. Indirik do you disagree that Fury seemed guilty? If so why?
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Fury seemed, to me, like someone naming names at random. You, Barek, are leading the "logical" charge to hang innocent men. So either you are an assassin, and your associate Ross is lying to protect you by proclaiming to be a Sage when he so obviously isn't, or your "logic" is a weapon as deadly to the innocent as an assassin's dagger.
So why should we listen to you at all? No doubt you'll have another perfectly logical reason to lead a charge to hang another innocent diplomat. And your excuse will be, again, "Well, he *looked* guilty. Sorry about that."
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I am the Witness. I have seen Zaki murder Sonya!
Vote Zaki
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(OOC: Is there *actual* witness/es in this game)
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I will not confirm whether or not Barek is The Witness, or even if The Witness character is being used in this game at all, but it is one of the special characters that can be used.
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How convenient, Barek. Now that your house of cards comes crumbling down around you, you flail around and point the finger at someone else who you have previously identified as "well, he might be an assassin, he doesn't say much". Honestly, I don't think we can trust anything you say anymore.
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Fury's Ghost:
Fools! I told you so! And you couldn't search my belongings first BEFORE hanging me?? Ah......oooo....
(http://1389blog.com/pix/ghost-voter-256.png)
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Zaki has failed the control. He is an assassin.
VOTE ZAKI
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Indirik will be the next one to be scanned.
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Death to the assassin Zaki!
Vote Zakilevo.
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Failed the control? What are you talking about?
And besides, we already know you're a liar. You claimed your "sage" abilities identified two innocents when it was impossible for you to have identified more than one. To my mind, that identifies *you* as one of the assassins, trying to protect your accomplices.
I VOTE ROSS!
Its the only thing that makes sense at this point. He's a proven liar.
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I don't trust any of you. Still I vote ROSS
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I don't trust any of you. Still I vote ROSS
Seems like there's more evidence against me, Cren. Unless you're just voting for the Sage.
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He's not a Sage. He's a liar. That's already been proven.
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Seems like there's more evidence against me, Cren. Unless you're just voting for the Sage.
Like I said, I don't trust anyone. Why would a sage reveal himself anyway?
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Probably in an attempt to rally the remaining Diplomats.
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I saw that post, Zakiwolf.
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I'll air this publicly.
I am 100% certain that Zaki is an assassin. No doubt about it. I witnessed the attack!
I am 99% certain that Cren and Indirik are assassins.
We will have our Sage check each to be certain, unless they manage lynch him. But if they do that, it'll be game over anyway, since they'll have parity. (assuming there are 3 of them)
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I vote Zakilevo.
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So everyone who doesn't follow you or Ross is an assassin? Good logic.
I say we vote for either Ross or Barek and see if they are really what they say they are.
If they really are the sage and witness, lynch me on the following day and I accept my death for making a mistake.
But so far I do not see any solid evidence except Barek accusing people here and there. You've been accusing wrong people for sometime Barek. Maybe you are trying to get all the diplomats killed!
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Fury's Ghost:
Barek is so lying through his teeth!
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Happy to respond!
I accused Ketchum on day 1 because we were all just guessing. Sorry Ketchum. It was totally meta too. I didn't know if you were active or not, and I figured I'd lynch the questionably-active. But day 1 votes are just speculative.
I led the argument against Fury - sorry Fury - but I maintain that the evidence available to me seemed to indicate him more than others. Fury didn't exactly come out with a spectacular defense.
If not for my Witness trait paying off, and our Sage choosing wisely, I think we'd be doomed.
Here's the trick: if we don't lynch an assassin, its game over - assuming there are 3 Bad Guys.
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Um, Fury's Ghost:
The Rules
§4A. - Spectators and ghosts may comment, but never suggest a course of action, reveal any new information (including vote counts) or discuss any details of their former character, in the case of ghosts. Preferably spectators will comment only in a manner tangential to the actual game. This rule is super duper important, and if you break it, terrible and awful things will happen to you!
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I have a suggestion :
Let's put all the fact on the table :
First the lynch will be so far me or Zaki.
If the winner is :
A) an assassin we buy 1 day
B) an innocent diplomats lose
Second,
There is 2 camps
I'm revealing I'm not the sage. I did a mistake. Indirik found out.
So who is the sage ?
Lefanis came to me as one and I gladly defended him and his 1st scan Barek. According to Lefanis 2nd scan was Penchant. Who is like Barek, not an assassin.
So I would understand why he did contact them both. But not me, he clearly doesn't know me. That makes me wonder why he didn't scan me instead of Penchant 2nd night.
Now again I come up with big declaration after you voted most of you.
But there's a third possible outcome.
Let say I'm full of !@#$ and you have the right to lynch me, but if I'm innocent you lose then I propose to double lynch in a way we will clearly know tomorrow If Lefanis is the sage or not by killing 1 assassin and 1 diplomat.
Let's double lynch Barek or Lefanis and Zaki.
Like this we buy another day and we are fix 2 assassins and 3 diplomats tomorrow. Because we know now there's 3 assassins.
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There are 7 voters.
Do the math.
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3-3-1
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Fair enough. Assasins, I'm the Sage. Lynch me.
Diplomats, Zaki is an assassin. Lynch him.
Ross, be a dear and vote for yourself.
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UNVOTE ZAKI
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This is ridiculous :o
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Um, Fury's Ghost:
It's ok. I didn't suggest a course of action, reveal any new information (didn't get any information when I died) or discuss any details of my former character, in the case of ghosts. All general comments :P
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This is ridiculous :o
Yes but imagine with a pair of lover the mess it would be.
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It's ok. I didn't suggest a course of action, reveal any new information (didn't get any information when I died) or discuss any details of my former character, in the case of ghosts. All general comments :P
You just point out the obvious Barek is very shady.
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You just point out the obvious Barek is very shady.
Hilarity will ensue when I die and its revealed that I'm a Diplomat Sage-Witness.
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Fury's Ghost:
Barek is so lying through his teeth!
That kinda sounds like you are suggesting that Barek should be lynched.
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Hilarity will ensue when I die and its revealed that I'm a Diplomat Sage-Witness.
It would be very funny now that you mention I would lose the game to see it.
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Can we vote Barek ?
VOTE BAREK
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Can we vote Barek ?
VOTE BAREK
Maybe I was wrong about my assessment of who's an assassin.
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Maybe I was wrong about my assessment of who's an assassin.
*sharpening his knife in his room*
Those steaks are really not tender at all, meat is such of poor quality.
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Happy to respond!
I accused Ketchum on day 1 because we were all just guessing. Sorry Ketchum. It was totally meta too. I didn't know if you were active or not, and I figured I'd lynch the questionably-active. But day 1 votes are just speculative.
No hard feeling Barek. I just send a mental nudge to all the survivors :P
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/me grabs the Excedrin
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Day 3 voting (13 hours to go)
Zakilevo (3 votes) - Barek (166), Lefanis (173), Penchant (182)
Ross (2 votes) - Indirik (174), Cren (175)
Barek (1 vote) - Ross (199)
Zakilevo has yet to vote.
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Fury's Ghost:
Barek is so lying through his teeth!
Best not to say things like this as a ghost. Otherwise some people may think you have specific knowledge on the issue, as from the Sage.
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Noooo, busy weekend+oversleep made me die!
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
Wait a minute......actually...I AM A GHOST!
Now i can spy the black markets in Onnar West!
Bye bye all!
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UNVOTE BAREK
VOTE ZAKI
Final answer
It can't be that simple I'm sure I am being manipulated. Whatever I'll stay consistent.
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We're all being manipulated. The question is, by whom, and for what ends. At this point, though, nothing Barek says can be trusted. He's admitted lying to us in order to try and get us to vote his way. So now do you trust someone who admits to lying to get you to vote his way (after championing the efforts to get 2 innocent people killed), or do you go figure it out for yourself? If it were me, I'd go figure it out for myself. If you do that, and the evidence still leads to Zakilevo, then go for it. Just make sure you're doing it because it's what you think is right, and not because it's what the self-admitted dishonest guy tells you to do.
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So far I have the choice to lynch myself or Zaki or both of us.
I guess my vote is done.
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He's admitted lying to us in order to try and get us to vote his way.
Wait I need a reference.
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I am the liar. :)
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At this point, though, nothing Barek says can be trusted. He's admitted lying to us in order to try and get us to vote his way. So now do you trust someone who admits to lying to get you to vote his way (after championing the efforts to get 2 innocent people killed)
Maybe Indirik is confused.
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(after championing the efforts to get 2 innocent people killed)
Also, and I know its a dead horse - I just can't leave it alone - I hardly 'championed' Ketchum. I voted first, sure.
Sadly, today we're just guessing, and looking for ridiculous tells, like Cren's mother whispering to me how he's always loved assassins and such.
Still, statistics. We must eliminate one of us today. At best, we kill an assassin. At worst, we kill a diplomat, but that very thing makes it harder for the assassins to hide.
For the time being, I'm switching my vote to the thusfar-useless, despite Indirik's terrible choice in scribes.
unvote Indirik
vote Ketchum
Fury I clearly championed, but I've talked repeatedly about this. Fury was the only person who seemed excited about the prospect of killing two particular people on Day 1. Both of whom turned out to be Diplomats. Working with the information I had at the time, he was the best candidate for Bad Guy. And his lack of convincing defense just pushed me further in that direction.
But now I'm not working on guesses or hunches. I know who the assassins are.
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You just point out the obvious Barek is very shady.
I mean this 8)
Diplomats, stop lying so people can tell you apart! Only Assassins have reason to lie! (general statement here)
Hilarity will ensue when I die and its revealed that I'm a Diplomat Sage-Witness.
3 roles? Unbelievable! (Hey what do I know - I'm just a ghost! You're just hearing things in your head!)
Now I know why Slapsticks went crazy. When people want to hang/burn you ;D
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Witness is a trait, not a role.
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What a tormented ghost around us.
Barek is definitely popular getting accused wrongly by several facts I publicly claimed I was or did and don't deny.
Don't quote me I'm a liar.
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There are at least 3 assassins, and the diplomats left are me, Indirik, Barek, Ross, Lefanis, Zakilevo and Penchant. So 1 more innocent diplomat dies, the assassins triumph.
There was always a shadowy figure in our group, Lefanis. And I believe Penchant is his accomplice. Not sure about the third one though, but it seems that Barek is not one.
UNVOTE ROSS
VOTE LEFANIS.
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But I am the Sage, i can confirm to you Barek and Lefanis are not assassins.
Assasins, I'm the Sage. Lynch me.
I'm the sage! Murder me assassins!
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Barek, you have claimed to be both. The Witness and the Sage. And you have admitted that you lied about being the witness.
And Ross, if it will get you to stop and actually think about what you're doing, then here:
UNVOTE ROSS
VOTE LEFANIS
Now you have a choice.
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And you have admitted that you lied about being the witness.
I did?
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Barek, you have claimed to be both. The Witness and the Sage. And you have admitted that you lied about being the witness.
And Ross, if it will get you to stop and actually think about what you're doing, then here:
UNVOTE ROSS
VOTE LEFANIS
Now you have a choice.
... Give it up. We diplomats had enough time to confirm who is who. We know Zaki is one of the assassins for sure. But then again, you are most likely one of his accomplices, since you are now reduced to making stuff up.
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They gave me a cookie to vote for Zaki.
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Day 3 voting (35 minutes to go)
Zakilevo (4 votes) - Barek (166), Lefanis (173), Penchant (182), Ross (207)
Lefanis (2 votes) - Cren (217), Indirik (219)
Zakilevo has yet to vote.
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I have no doubt that there are two, possibly more assassins. I am telling you guys, Barek is one. VOTE Barek.
There are at least 3 assassins, and the diplomats left are me, Indirik, Barek, Ross, Lefanis, Zakilevo and Penchant.
I'm no longer concerned about the living.
I just want to see a triple lynching. ;D
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Day 3 and Night 3
Zakilevo (4 votes) - Barek (166), Lefanis (173), Penchant (182), Ross (207)
Lefanis (2 votes) - Cren (217), Indirik (219)
The arguments continued, but many of the Diplomats seemed more focused now, sure of who the murderers amongst them must be. That evening four Diplomats and several guards entered Zakilevo's tent. When he saw the group enter, he knew why they were there. Drawing a hidden dagger from his coat, he darted forward and slashed at one of the guards, slicing him across the throat. The guard went down, clutching at his neck as his blood poured forth. Zakilevo turned to attack another guard but the third thrust his spear, catching Zakilevo in the back. He crashed to the ground and the two remaining guards thrust at him again and again as he thrashed, until he finally lay quiet. Dead.
Searching him, the Diplomats find a letter from a Kindaran noble hiring Zakilevo to murder the Diplomats and disrupt the peace talks.
Zakilevo the Assassin was killed as he fought to escape.
That night, a Diplomat sat on the ground in his tent before a low table, staring at a circular object - a crystal ball. The smell of incense and herbs filled the room. The ball was full of swirling colours and shapes. As he watched, the shapes resolved themselves into the face of one of the retinue. Before the Diplomat could make out who it was, an arm slide across his neck and a knife plunged into his heart.
"Didn't see that coming, did you, Sage?" the Assassin whispered into his ear as his victim died.
Lefanis the Sage was murdered.
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Vote Indirik
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Well, crap. They got the sage.
It's all your fault, Ross.
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Well, crap. They got the sage.
It's all your fault, Ross.
baahahahahahah! +10 points for Indirik for hilarity!
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Ghost- I hope you can trust me fully now, Ross ::)
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I think the meta comments are a bit too on-topic for the game.
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Go Go Go Diplomats, here's our chance. VOTE ROSS, he lied a lot.
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It doesn't matter, Cren. The assassins have sacrificed one of their own to guarantee a win.
But even so, they won't take me down without a fight!
I VOTE ROSS! He sold us out for cookies, and betrayed the identity of the Sage to the assassins.
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1 dead, two to go. So who are they? Is it you, Indirik, always finding others faults, never mentioning your own? Or is it you Penchant, silent but secure? Maybe it is you Ross, who lied a lot? Or Barek?
3 innocent diplomats vs 2 assassins. Indirik and Ross, you are the two assassins left.
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You two are wily assassins, I'll give you that much!
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UNVOTE ROSS
Indirik and Ross, only one of you is an assassin. Lets see who is the other one, Barek or Penchant.
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My faults?! What faults have I? That picked Slapsticks to go first? He wanted it, and it didn't matter because I lost that vote so he didn't die at my hand. That I voted for you? Maybe that was a mistake, but you seem to vote as randomly as Fury. Lefanis? That was an effort to get Ross to not vote along with Barek. (Damned assassin-baked cookies!) My vote against Ross? That made perfect sense at the time, as he was obviously lying about being the Sage.
But all in all, none of my votes for lynching have been followed. We've followed Barek's lead into lynching two out of three innocents.
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I hope you all remember that Penchant said he was with Zakilevo in a private party, on the day of first murder. It means something, doesn't it?
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Penchant was scanned by the Sage, I believe.
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Nobody is going to believe what others believe. People want proof!
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You shall have it soon enough.
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Yes, we will. And I have a feeling it is going to be the absolute worst possible outcome.
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wait wait i am the assassin?
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Nobody is going to believe what others believe. People want proof!
I want blood, a bloody mess with Indirik.
VOTE INDIRIK
You can my have my cookie.
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Vote Indirik
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Day 4 voting (10.5 hours to go)
Indirik (3 votes) - Barek (226), Ross (243), Penchant (244)
Cren and Indirik have yet to vote.
Please note that as today is my anniversary with my girlfriend, I may not be around at 5pm forum time to announce the next series of executions/murders. You'll just need to sit tight until I get back.
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sound good.
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VOTE PENCHANT.
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Sorry, my vote was not clear before.
VOTE ROSS
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Day 4 and Night 4
Indirik (3 votes) - Barek (226), Ross (243), Penchant (244)
Penchant (1 vote) - Cren (247)
Ross (1 vote) - Indirik (248)
There is much less discussion this day than the others. Once again most of the Diplomats are in agreement, and they march on Indirik's tent. Pushing aside the tent flap, they enter, to find it empty. They search the camp but cannot find him.
"He had to have been an assassin, then," comments Penchant. "Why else would he flee?"
The Diplomats return to their tents and post guards outside to protect them should Indirik return.
Night falls on the retinue's camp. A shape creeps through the shadows to Barek's tent, cutting a hole in the back and slipping silently inside. The Assassin pads over to the bed where the Diplomat lies still and quiet. Without hesitating, the Assassin plunges his dagger into the unmoving form. Grain pours out. Confused, the Assassin spins around just in time to see the club coming at his head. He tries to dodge, but is too slow and is knocked to the ground, stunned. Barek, Penchant, Ross and the guards carry the slumped form of Indirik to the nearest tree and string him up.
"Were there any others?" yells Ross. Indirik remains silent. Ross jabs him with a spear and asks again, but receives no answer. Disgusted, Ross kicks the chair holding up the Assassin. He thrashes on the end of the rope for several minutes before finally falling still.
Indirik the Assassin is executed.
With the execution of Indirik the Assassin, the dark oppression that had hung over the retinue for the past several days seems to abate. The Diplomats continue their journey and finally reach Masahakon without any further incidents. Despite losing so many of their number, they manage to successfully negotiate a treaty between Kindara and Cathay, and peace reigns in the east once more.
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Winners
Cren the Diplomat
Penchant the Diplomat
Barek the Diplomat (Witness)
Ross the Diplomat
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Cren, I thought you were an assassin, but I had some doubts!
Good game, diplomats, assassins, and GM!
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It was kind of funny watching Cren and Fury and so randomly, and maybe even like Assassins. I kept checking the rules to see if there were some kind of Sympathizers, or something.
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Winners
Cren the Diplomat
Penchant the Diplomat
Barek the Diplomat (Witness)
Ross the Diplomat
Don't dead diplomats still win?
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In my experience on these games elsewhere, usually only survivors on the victorious team are considered winners.
I think you're a winner though, Slapsticks.
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In my experience on these games elsewhere, usually only survivors on the victorious team are considered winners.
I think you're a winner though, Slapsticks.
<3
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Wow, at first many worried there were 4 assassins, then since there wasn't parity we were like it must be 3 Zakilevo, Indirik, and Cren but turns out Cren was innocent.
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Winners
Cren the Diplomat
Penchant the Diplomat
Barek the Diplomat (Witness)
Ross the Diplomat
Poor innocent ghosts :'(
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Way to vote with the assassins, Cren! :P
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we were the only ones being completely honest. :D
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Lol, thought there were 3 assassins. Anyway 2 was good enough.
And yeah Penchant, you almost got yourself killed!
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Barek really was who he said he was?? LOL! He was so sure I was and I was so sure he was an assassin :o Assassins could probably have just sat back and let the diplomats kill each other off ;D
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Meh, Zak's strategy was to just go with the flow, and keep his head down. Didn't work, as he was too suspicious. We didn't want to kill Barek, as he may have been protected by a Guardian. He was too much of an obvious assassin's target. My strategy was to start killing all the peripheral characters so long as Barek kept fingering innocents. Probably would have worked if the Sage hadn't scanned Barek as the Witness on the first night, letting the two of them form a secure partnership. We almost knifed Lefanis the second night, too. :(
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Meh, Zak's strategy was to just go with the flow, and keep his head down. Didn't work, as he was too suspicious. We didn't want to kill Barek, as he may have been protected by a Guardian. He was too much of an obvious assassin's target. My strategy was to start killing all the peripheral characters so long as Barek kept fingering innocents. Probably would have worked if the Sage hadn't scanned Barek as the Witness on the first night, letting the two of them form a secure partnership. We almost knifed Lefanis the second night, too. :(
Yep. I couldn't send enough letters to get the suspicions off of me. Was busy over the weekend :-/
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Yep. I couldn't send enough letters to get the suspicions off of me. Was busy over the weekend :-/
Me too, I was busy during weekend and not able online. And all your plan are to kill those silent people first. No harm done, just I could not believe my eyes Barek is actually a Diplomat because I swear he is the first one to accuse Ketchum and he want hang him first :P
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Someone had to get voted.
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The Sage gang were only sure of Zak's guilt due to a lucky use of Barek's Witness ability. Starting at 0%, the chance of spotting one of the Assassins during a murder goes up 15% every night he doesn't use it. He used it on the second night (so 30% chance of success) and got lucky on the RNG. And because Lefanis scanned Barek the first night, it meant the whole Sage group now knew Zak was an Assassin. An unlucky break for the Assassins.