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BattleMaster => Locals => Atamara => Topic started by: Jimgerdes on November 13, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
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Secession (just in)
message to Everyone on Atamara
The duchy of Barad Riel has seceded from Eston and formed a new realm called Rieleston.
Well. Didn't see that coming. Another civil war, perhaps?
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Dear CE,
Your war is very important to us and we will be with you as soon as possible. We ask that you remain in your realm until we are finished our in-fighting.
Eston
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Totally saw this one coming :)
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The new name has some interesting interpretations. Barad Riel > Riel Eston > "Real Eston"?
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"Real Eston"
I was wondering if that was done on purpose myself. What's the reasoning behind the split?
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I was wondering if that was done on purpose myself. What's the reasoning behind the split?
I always wanted to make realm there called the Riel Barony and declare war on the barony of makar with it... :(
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Aren't we seceding the wrong Duchies? I demand some answers! (http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/telephone.gif)
Well i already knew it was going to happen...
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Tara,
Thank you for your interest in waring with Eston. Currently, all of our nobles are busy at the moment in-fighting. Your position in the war-queue is 3. Your war is very important with us so please remain in the queue. We thank you for your patience while we self destruct.
Eston
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as for the reason - it changed several times over the last week, I don't think anyone actually knows. I'm sure it was just an accidental mouse click.
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I always wanted to make realm there called the Riel Barony and declare war on the barony of makar with it...
Well, that's not very nice. There's room for plenty of Baronies. After all, there used to be two or three before we put them all together.
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Well, that's not very nice. There's room for plenty of Baronies. After all, there used to be two or three before we put them all together.
Well the idea was that once the Riel Barony captured Makar I could rename it the real barony of makar then demand peace from the fake barony of makar with the condition that they rename to Not The Barony of Makar...
But anyway, How many regions do you think BoM can latch onto while cleaning out Barad Riel
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The reasons changed many times over the past two weeks. First it was a pretender to the throne, then a demand for democracy/republic government, then complaints about oppression of freedom of speech/opinion, then complaints about the conduct of the war, "negotiations with Tara", the friendship with Coria, etc.
The Duke's son Zak (in infiltrator) was recently executed by CE. It kinda set him over the edge.
Essentially it comes down to a desire power, like everything in BM ;D
The "Rieleston" name is brilliant, however. They even chose Eston's old banner.
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Do y'all want an alliance with Coria? We have the best cookies.
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Do y'all want an alliance with Coria? We have the best cookies.
You must never speak of those. They are the true reason for the split.
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Can someone take a picture of the political map currently on Atamara and post it on here so we can see?
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.... you can look at it directly from the info page.
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as a dev already said in another thread... THAT ONLY WORKS ON TESTING. I'M NOT ON TESTING!
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nvm. it is possible, but it isn't able to be navigated to directly...
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The reasons changed many times over the past two weeks. First it was a pretender to the throne, then a demand for democracy/republic government, then complaints about oppression of freedom of speech/opinion, then complaints about the conduct of the war, "negotiations with Tara", the friendship with Coria, etc.
The Duke's son Zak (in infiltrator) was recently executed by CE. It kinda set him over the edge.
Essentially it comes down to a desire power, like everything in BM ;D
The "Rieleston" name is brilliant, however. They even chose Eston's old banner.
Seems someones making up excuses, about losing his grip on his kingdom
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Seems someones making up excuses, about losing his grip on his kingdom
How am I making up excuses? Those are all legitimate reasons for a secession, and they are all reasons cited by the rebelling Duke or his followers. People were asking?
Kerwin has never had a good grip on the Kingdom. The realm is run by a select few important families/players who have been there for many, many years. Including the rebelling Duke. Anyone who thought Kerwin truly ran the realm doesn't know Eston.
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How am I making up excuses? Those are all legitimate reasons for a secession, and they are all reasons cited by the rebelling Duke or his followers. People were asking?
Kerwin has never had a good grip on the Kingdom. The realm is run by a select few important families/players who have been there for many, many years. Including the rebelling Duke. Anyone who thought Kerwin truly ran the realm doesn't know Eston.
Obviously Merlin runs Eston.
And Perth don't let Blue Star rile you up, they're just upset that Coria destroyed their realm a long while back and is looking forward to seeing Eston die now.
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Eston die no that would simply be to easy. Throws a torch ::) ;D
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Hm... Now Coria isn't technically peace locked anymore... Interesting...
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The reasons changed many times over the past two weeks. First it was a pretender to the throne, then a demand for democracy/republic government, then complaints about oppression of freedom of speech/opinion, then complaints about the conduct of the war, "negotiations with Tara", the friendship with Coria, etc.
The Duke's son Zak (in infiltrator) was recently executed by CE. It kinda set him over the edge.
Essentially it comes down to a desire power, like everything in BM ;D
The "Rieleston" name is brilliant, however. They even chose Eston's old banner.
Maybe they are Norland's successors, looking to reclaim their lost lands.
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*Looks down at a list and checks off two names*
"Okay, two down, two to go."
*Looks at KK and Sordnaz*
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Now Barad Falas needs to secede and call the new realm Falaseston.
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Now Barad Falas needs to secede and call the new realm Falaseston.
I was thinking Rielce personally.
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Now would be a good time for Darka to kick in that mercenary instinct and get the hell off of the burning ship.
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If there was ever a time for CE to create ACTUAL hegemony on Atamara under their rule, instead of just de facto hegemony, now is the time. If they push hard, with their allies, Eston, Minas Ithil, Darka, and the Barony would all topple.
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If there was ever a time for CE to create ACTUAL hegemony on Atamara under their rule, instead of just de facto hegemony, now is the time. If they push hard, with their allies, Eston, Minas Ithil, Darka, and the Barony would all topple.
How is that fun?
Much better to toy with a weak enemy than to have no one to play with.
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How is that fun?
Much better to toy with a weak enemy than to have no one to play with.
I agree. Was just saying if they wanted to go down as the greatest realm to ever play the game of Battlemaster.. now is the time. Not that I want them to do that, of course.
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I agree. Was just saying if they wanted to go down as the greatest realm to ever play the game of Battlemaster.. now is the time. Not that I want them to do that, of course.
If they do that, then perhaps tom will reset the continent...
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Nope.
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How is that fun?
Much better to toy with a weak enemy than to have no one to play with.
Not really, we're ignoring CE et al and having fun fighting amongst ourselves. The recent succession has been the most exciting part of the last two years.
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Not really, we're ignoring CE et al and having fun fighting amongst ourselves. The recent succession has been the most exciting part of the last two years.
Of course!
Eston and Minas I. don't have to walk half continent for battles, that just makes everyone else on Atamara jealous!
;)
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How is that fun?
Much better to toy with a weak enemy than to have no one to play with.
+1
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If Eston fell, Darka and the Barony would become bastions of anti-CE monopoly. They would gain many former Estonian nobles and would become very tough nuts to crack, and could possibly continue on until someone from the CE monopoly breaks off and joins them to challenge them for rule of the continent... Tara or Coria, perhaps.
Not that I think this will happen. Just a hypothetical scenario.
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We'll all join Coira and bake cookies.
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We'll all join Coira and bake cookies.
I do have a mighty fine cookie recipe I've been saving for just an occasion. Kerwin gets it first, though.
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We'll all join Coira and bake cookies.
You see...people just think CE wants Coria as a buffer realm.
Really, we just bake them good cookies and they continue to ignore us.
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What exactly are these Corian cookies I've been hearing so much about? And how is it that I've never had one? >:( I demand a cookie!
WAR ON CORIA!
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What exactly are these Corian cookies I've been hearing so much about? And how is it that I've never had one? >:( I demand a cookie!
WAR ON CORIA!
It's crystal meth. We're talking about crystal meth.
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Whoa, whoa, don't turn Tara's war for cookies into a war on drugs!
I swear, it's cookies... REALLY good cookies.
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Dear CE,
Your war is very important to us and we will be with you as soon as possible. We ask that you remain in your realm until we are finished our in-fighting.
Eston
If the war was important to you, how come you just sat in Nazamroth for entire months at a time?
And you never called. :'(
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Whoa, whoa, don't turn Tara's war for cookies into a war on drugs!
I swear, it's cookies... REALLY good cookies.
Well after I sack Barad Falas, I'll be able to see for myself ;D Those cookies had better be worth the trouble.
If the war was important to you, how come you just sat in Nazamroth for entire months at a time?
And you never called. :'(
Well, they were fighting with CE there you know... So that does show that they give them priority ;)
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Sorry took me so long to respond, but I only check the forums every month or two.
Yes, Rieleston was the name my character suggested to Duke Arturius, as it was a combination of location of capital (Barad Riel) combined with the name of the former realm, and also expressed what the old farts in our new realm believe to be true - that we are the "Real Eston," living off the legacy (as they remember it...right or wrong) of some long forgotten "ideal" Eston from the past. In game the reasons for the secession are a combination of what has been stated...plus a few more that will be revealed in time.
To the comment about Rieleston possibly being Norland's successor...um no. That realm deserved to die for a reason.
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To the comment about Rieleston possibly being Norland's successor...um no. That realm deserved to die for a reason.
That, at least, we can full heartily agree upon!
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Jeah just forget about Norland, let's rebuild Abington...again! You could call it Abington Again as well. Then when CE attacks they'd always have a good excuse. Jeah we're going to an AA meeting, be back soon.
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Jeah just forget about Norland, let's rebuild Abington...again! You could call it Abington Again as well. Then when CE attacks they'd always have a good excuse. Jeah we're going to an AA meeting, be back soon.
I can't believe its not Abington
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Cookies. Pancakes.
What the hell is it with hallucinogenic Atamaran food stuffs!
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evj6xg1LiLY
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Rieleston's self image issues continue as, even when Eston has been utterly defeated, they continue to launch assassination attempts against it's nobles.
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Cookies. Pancakes.
What the hell is it with hallucinogenic Atamaran food stuffs!
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evj6xg1LiLY
Pancakes being the better of the two.
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I can't believe its not Abington
Took me a second to realize that reference which I like and it insults Suville so I think that should be the new name used when referencing Suville.
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Rieleston's self image issues continue as, even when Eston has been utterly defeated, they continue to launch assassination attempts against it's nobles.
Kerwin's self image issues continue as, even when Eston has been utterly defeated, he continues to look for ways to "outsmart" the terms of the unconditional surrender of his realm. Did he really think that appointing Cyrillos as Duke of Belegrond would be tolerated by someone like Elroy? You missed the back story, but Elroy let his only friend Zak die in order to make sure Arturius was emotional enough to break away and form Rieleston. He is heartless, and acting on his own personal vendettas right now.
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Kerwin's self image issues continue as, even when Eston has been utterly defeated, he continues to look for ways to "outsmart" the terms of the unconditional surrender of his realm. Did he really think that appointing Cyrillos as Duke of Belegrond would be tolerated by someone like Elroy? You missed the back story, but Elroy let his only friend Zak die in order to make sure Arturius was emotional enough to break away and form Rieleston. He is heartless, and acting on his own personal vendettas right now.
Outsmart the treaty? There is nothing to outsmart, so I'm unsure what you mean. And Kerwin appointed Cyrilos because he is one of Kerwin's closest confidant's and advisers, and that's usually how appointments work. Kerwin gave zero consideration to how some bandit in the night felt about it. Honestly, I'm not sure why Elroy cares, his ilk succeeded in their rebellion and succeeded in crippling Eston, I'm not sure what more he really wants.
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Kerwin's self image issues continue as, even when Eston has been utterly defeated, he continues to look for ways to "outsmart" the terms of the unconditional surrender of his realm. Did he really think that appointing Cyrillos as Duke of Belegrond would be tolerated by someone like Elroy? You missed the back story, but Elroy let his only friend Zak die in order to make sure Arturius was emotional enough to break away and form Rieleston. He is heartless, and acting on his own personal vendettas right now.
Kerwin never even claimed to be intended to hold the Ducal seat for very long, given the disapproval expressed by several nobles– and that was prior to the treaty.
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What more does he want? Let me see...revenge against a King (and his council) who has treated one of the most successful infiltrators on Atamara as a "bandit in the night," 2000 gold bounty, a lame-duck King off the throne of Eston, the duchy of Belegrond under the rule of Rieleston, and a really good cup of coffee. Wait, the coffee is what my brain wants this early in the morning.
I suppose at this point of his 72 year old life and 40+ year infiltrator career, Elroy's main reason for doing what he does is simple...amusement...because he can.
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Crystal meth coria hmm this explains some things.... mm but cookies are so good.
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What more does he want? Let me see...revenge against a King (and his council) who has treated one of the most successful infiltrators on Atamara as a "bandit in the night,"
See. This is the problem I always have with infiltrators in terms of RP and treating them IC. 1) "most successful infiltrators" that has never killed anyone? The worst Elroy's ever done is injure someone "so badly" they recover in a week's time. and 2) No, my character who is a Medieval Noble would not respect another "noble" who sneaks around and stabs knives in peoples back. That isn't honorable. Fight a man on the field of battle like a man, or in a duel. It's nothing unique to Elroy, I just always have a problem trying to fit infiltrators into the BM world.
2000 gold bounty, a lame-duck King off the throne of Eston, the duchy of Belegrond under the rule of Rieleston,
As for these things, you already have all of those. Except for the bounty, I am unsure how the others are relevent to attacking Kerwin or Azreal. But whatever, like you said I guess it's just because Elroy just likes to be an ass, lol.
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I suppose at this point of his 72 year old life and 40+ year infiltrator career, Elroy's main reason for doing what he does is simple...amusement...because he can.
Out of curiosity: does anybody know if age makes sword/infil skills deteriorate faster or anthing like that? I know hours get to be a problem, but does age hurt skills?
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Out of curiosity: does anybody know if age makes sword/infil skills deteriorate faster or anthing like that? I know hours get to be a problem, but does age hurt skills?
From what I have heard, yes.
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Out of curiosity: does anybody know if age makes sword/infil skills deteriorate faster or anthing like that? I know hours get to be a problem, but does age hurt skills?
In my experience, infiltrator skill deteriorates faster, and it seems harder to regain the skills with training sessions (more success with sword training, but that may be random). Plus only 6 hours per turn at his age...
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In my experience, infiltrator skill deteriorates faster, and it seems harder to regain the skills with training sessions (more success with sword training, but that may be random). Plus only 6 hours per turn at his age...
Yeah, the hours thing is annoying.
Interesting about the skills. I wonder if oratory degrades too?
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Yeah, the hours thing is annoying.
Interesting about the skills. I wonder if oratory degrades too?
All skills are, in fact, created equal.
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All skills are, in fact, created equal.
Interesting.
I would have thought maybe oratory would degrade less with age; but oh well.
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Point is:
Rieleston is evil and should be destroyed.
Cyrilos looks forward to being Rieleston's duke of Belegrond.
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If they send assassins while asking for peace, I don't think they'll have much issue with stabbing one of their own dukes.
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Hey now.
Don't burst my bubble.
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If they send assassins while asking for peace, I don't think they'll have much issue with stabbing one of their own dukes.
Oh no Duke Ferdinand has been asssassinated!
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Oh no Duke Ferdinand has been asssassinated!
KRIEG!
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But to create a proper world war, we need an infil from some small nation to assassinate the Duke... MINAS LEON! GET ON IT!
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KRIEG!
Is that a reference to *warehouse-sized tank comes out from behind a lightpole* CREEEEEEEEEEED!
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Is that a reference to *warehouse-sized tank comes out from behind a lightpole* CREEEEEEEEEEED!
Nein. Das bedeutet Krieg!