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Title: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 09, 2011, 12:30:35 AM
Any character you send to your family home will have a mother who still looks good in her later years, even if you are 80+. Everyone has an uncle who likes sharing info. And everyone has a generous aunt.

Man, the life of a family member before being called into active service by a Beamer is pretty bland...
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Anaris on April 09, 2011, 04:56:04 AM
Remember, just because your physical age is 80+, that doesn't mean you were born 80+ IG years ago...
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Draco Tanos on April 09, 2011, 07:33:10 AM
So we don't need to have the apothecaries make an herbal viagra? :P
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Zakilevo on April 09, 2011, 11:19:35 AM
Don't forget about the dog and your sisters :)
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 09, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
Remember, just because your physical age is 80+, that doesn't mean you were born 80+ IG years ago...

Mars years Earth years deal? When on Mars be as the Martians are... and use their calendar.

Game years conversion to real years is something I only vaguely understand. Is it 1:1? But seasons aren't 1:1 and unless BM universe has multiple suns or really complex stuff going on in its atmosphere then that is a bit weird. It is also possible that a BM year isn't just one revolution around the sun.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: De-Legro on April 09, 2011, 12:16:02 PM
Mars years Earth years deal? When on Mars be as the Martians are... and use their calendar.

Game years conversion to real years is something I only vaguely understand. Is it 1:1? But seasons aren't 1:1 and unless BM universe has multiple suns or really complex stuff going on in its atmosphere then that is a bit weird. It is also possible that a BM year isn't just one revolution around the sun.

This has been discussed a lot before. The age rating that the game gives to your characters is an indication of their age, something like the test you can do in RL to see how your life style has affected your relative age. It isn't a direct age for your character, since things like wounding etc speed up the aging process.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: vonGenf on April 09, 2011, 12:41:12 PM
This has been discussed a lot before. The age rating that the game gives to your characters is an indication of their age, something like the test you can do in RL to see how your life style has affected your relative age. It isn't a direct age for your character, since things like wounding etc speed up the aging process.

i.e. if your character is classified as "80 years old", you can expect him to have difficulty walking fast and to need a nap in the afternoon. This can be either because he has actually lived for 80 years, or that counting his scars in the morning takes 3 hours each day (and he has to recount them, his long-term memory is toast).
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Iltaran on April 09, 2011, 02:07:20 PM
Indeed, my back of the envelope calculations suggest that Gregor, despite having the health of a 91 year old, is really only about 80 years old!
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Zakilevo on April 10, 2011, 12:05:13 AM
I wonder what would happen when someone hits 100 years old. Should have some special event? :)
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 10, 2011, 02:01:46 AM
Yeah, a funeral.  ;D
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: loren on April 10, 2011, 02:13:42 AM
Indeed, my back of the envelope calculations suggest that Gregor, despite having the health of a 91 year old, is really only about 80 years old!

I'd be curious to see how you figured that.  It appears that his latest critical wounding added a year in relatively short order.  For a long time (aka the year or so that I bothered to keep track) he aged just as fast as Serko and Norel.  I was curious since I was putting dates into the family tree on the wiki page for births and deaths.

I think we'd worked it out (we being Stuart and I) that you normally age 1 year every 90 days or 3 months or so.  It was some nice round number like that.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Iltaran on April 10, 2011, 03:01:09 AM
Well, I worked off http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Calendar which says that characters age a "year" every 6 weeks. Battlemaster started in 2001/2 from what I'm told, so I presumed that Gregor was roughly nine RL-years old. That works out to roughly 470 weeks, which divided by 6 gives about 78. Round numbers are nice, so I called it 80.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Bedwyr on April 10, 2011, 03:04:31 AM
Well, if you count it as a full turn of the seasons (three weeks per season, four seasons per year, obviously), then it's 12 weeks to a BM year.  This seems to be about right for at least a couple of characters that I've watched.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: ^ban^ on April 10, 2011, 03:39:10 AM
Indeed, my back of the envelope calculations suggest that Gregor, despite having the health of a 91 year old, is really only about 80 years old!

Bah, that's nothing! Hang has the health of a 68 year old despite being only 43!

Well, if you count it as a full turn of the seasons (three weeks per season, four seasons per year, obviously), then it's 12 weeks to a BM year.  This seems to be about right for at least a couple of characters that I've watched.

That can't be right. The aforementioned Hang would be only 21 years old under that system...
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Bedwyr on April 10, 2011, 03:47:03 AM
That can't be right. The aforementioned Hang would be only 21 years old under that system...

No, he'd be 21 years older than whatever age he started at.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: WarMaid on April 10, 2011, 05:50:41 AM
Bah, that's nothing! Hang has the health of a 68 year old despite being only 43!

That can't be right. The aforementioned Hang would be only 21 years old under that system...

Hang's been around almost five years...which would be about 21 1/2 years under the 12 RL weeks = 1 BM year system.  He'd be close to your 43 year number (depending on his age to start.)  How did you get your number?

I'm always curious how other people count BM time.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: ^ban^ on April 10, 2011, 07:53:28 AM
Hang's been around almost five years...which would be about 21 1/2 years under the 12 RL weeks = 1 BM year system.  He'd be close to your 43 year number (depending on his age to start.)  How did you get your number?

I'm always curious how other people count BM time.

Six week to a year. I believe the number is based on the old harvest schedule.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Perth on April 10, 2011, 08:06:37 AM
Implementing some kind of real, established Year/Time Keeping system into the game would be wonderful, I think.

One of the AWESOME things about BattleMaster is the persistent world and all of the histories, cultures, events and stories that are told over time. Additionally, all of these can be easily kept track of and recorded on the awesome Wiki we have. Unfortunately, the ONE major hindrance to record keeping the game's lack of time keeping. It seems every article, realm, or continent page keeps track of time differently. It's pretty frustrating. There's the whole let's March 1009 (for March 2009) method, Dwilight has had the benefit of keeping track of game years from the beginning of the continent through seasons (DY 14 now? Almost 15?). Some people just don't even bother with it and don't list a timeline for things at all.

Personally, I would love to see a yeared notation or some kind of date/time keeping added to the game.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: DoctorHarte on April 10, 2011, 11:22:26 AM
I'm so confused at this whole post. But how do you visit one's family home in the first place?  :-\
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Zakilevo on April 10, 2011, 12:17:05 PM
what? I thought you can visit your family home by going to the home region? Where your first character starts.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Telrunya on April 10, 2011, 12:27:20 PM
Your Family Home is in the first region you start, but an Hero character can sometimes move it. It should say on your family page where it is.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: egamma on April 10, 2011, 07:50:30 PM
I'm so confused at this whole post. But how do you visit one's family home in the first place?  :-\

Aren't you the one that was exploiting this feature in Dwilight?
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 10, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
The cases that were shared as "confirmed" were those in Thulsoma. Even so, let's leave those accusations of exploits to those in charge of dealing with it.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: DoctorHarte on April 11, 2011, 02:31:24 AM
Aren't you the one that was exploiting this feature in Dwilight?

Me? Hell no! My family home has always been in Melmoor from the day I started. I haven't managed to figure out how to change it yet  :o Check my page - I have no one in Atamara either.

Anyways, what are the benefits of moving your family home to another region?
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 11, 2011, 02:46:01 AM
Back when your aunt was more generous, you could set up house in a region with a guild you were in, and continuously funnel gold through your aunt to the guild. By coordinating several homes this way, one could amass thousands in short time.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Zakilevo on April 11, 2011, 02:56:12 AM
Really? But I guess aunts all over the world of BM got a bit stingy now?
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: loren on April 11, 2011, 03:11:28 AM
Hah, I'd forgotten that Gias wrote up a funny bit about Gregor making up the Gregorian calendar.  Cute.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: egamma on April 11, 2011, 08:27:31 PM
Me? Hell no! My family home has always been in Melmoor from the day I started. I haven't managed to figure out how to change it yet  :o Check my page - I have no one in Atamara either.

Anyways, what are the benefits of moving your family home to another region?
1. fame point
2. aunt gives you gold--although that seems be restricted or eliminated thanks to the Thulsoma thing.

sorry about accusing you, it's hard to keep people straight--I just remembered it was another guy with a lot of "dispraise".
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Zakilevo on April 11, 2011, 08:47:45 PM
wha? You can't get gold from your aunty anymore? what about your sisters and the dog? :)
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Indirik on April 11, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
1. fame point

Confirmed false.

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Vellos on April 12, 2011, 05:59:33 AM
Implementing some kind of real, established Year/Time Keeping system into the game would be wonderful, I think.

One of the AWESOME things about BattleMaster is the persistent world and all of the histories, cultures, events and stories that are told over time. Additionally, all of these can be easily kept track of and recorded on the awesome Wiki we have. Unfortunately, the ONE major hindrance to record keeping the game's lack of time keeping. It seems every article, realm, or continent page keeps track of time differently. It's pretty frustrating. There's the whole let's March 1009 (for March 2009) method, Dwilight has had the benefit of keeping track of game years from the beginning of the continent through seasons (DY 14 now? Almost 15?). Some people just don't even bother with it and don't list a timeline for things at all.

Personally, I would love to see a yeared notation or some kind of date/time keeping added to the game.

Another reason to love Dwilight: built-in chronology!
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: egamma on April 12, 2011, 06:48:01 AM
Confirmed false.

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2

Hmm. So why spend all the gold, and spend all the time having your hero walk around with a ton of gold? Simply for RP purposes?
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Indirik on April 12, 2011, 02:30:03 PM
You can visit your family home to get gold, without risking the prestige loss for calling for support. And some people just like having their family home in an island where they actually play.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 12, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
You also get some region info where the house is. I think you get harvest, tax, and local independence info in vague amounts.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Revan on April 13, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
Confirmed false.

http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Lemon_Fame_2

I've never quite believed that was false. I swear I got a fame point for moving my family home years and years ago. It was chasing fame that led me to do it at all and I don't recall being disappointed :-\
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: songqu88@gmail.com on April 13, 2011, 01:22:44 PM
Hm, I moved my family home to Tahgalez, got no fame? This was during 4th Inv, so somewhat recent.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Revan on April 13, 2011, 05:31:11 PM
For me we're talking between July-October '05. So maybe it's the case the code changed since? But I remember being quite sure I'd grabbed a fame point for moving the family home at the time.
Title: Re: Visiting family home
Post by: Anaris on April 13, 2011, 07:51:51 PM
No fame points have ever been removed.

And moving the family home has never been a fame point.