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BattleMaster => Locals => Far East Island => Topic started by: ScooterMcCabe on April 05, 2013, 02:17:50 AM

Title: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: ScooterMcCabe on April 05, 2013, 02:17:50 AM
So reactions to Seperoth coming back and tying up loose ends>
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Scarlett on April 05, 2013, 03:07:12 AM
Weren't you banned in Cathay by Baudoin last year and now you're in Cathay's dungeon?

How does this not end in execution? (I ask because I don't know - haven't executed anyone in years)
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Stabbity on April 05, 2013, 03:09:56 AM
He left the island, thus the ban no longer exists.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Scarlett on April 05, 2013, 03:40:52 AM
what why is that i don't even
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Norrel on April 05, 2013, 03:43:08 AM
what why is that i don't even
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Ender on April 05, 2013, 04:11:15 AM
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what why is that i don't even

Judges have a lot of paperwork to keep up with. I'm sure they just throw away all those pesky bans on people who decide to take a trip overseas. Obviously they're never going to come back.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Stabbity on April 05, 2013, 04:13:53 AM
The mechanic is so old, it has mold growing on it. I'm surprised people are surprised by it. Its the infiltrator's best friend, and puzzles me why people insist on deporting infils instead of executing them.

"Put an end to the criminal sire?" "No, send him on a two week vacation, so he can come back and do it all over again."
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Telrunya on April 05, 2013, 04:23:41 AM
That's why you don't send them to the Colonies and give them a reason to get back on a ship. Send them somewhere they like to go, so they stick around!
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Norrel on April 05, 2013, 04:25:17 AM
That's why you don't send them to the Colonies and give them a reason to get back on a ship. Send them somewhere they like to go, so they stick around!

Or just kill them. Infiltrators are worth a lot of money, the h/p cost is nothing compared to the investment an infiltrator takes. Plus you're more likely to deter infiltrator attacks if you punish them ruthlessly.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Stabbity on April 05, 2013, 04:31:43 AM
That's why you don't send them to the Colonies and give them a reason to get back on a ship. Send them somewhere they like to go, so they stick around!

I think sending them on a three hour tour would be more effective. A three hour tour... A three hour tour...
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Telrunya on April 05, 2013, 05:01:29 AM
Or just kill them. Infiltrators are worth a lot of money, the h/p cost is nothing compared to the investment an infiltrator takes. Plus you're more likely to deter infiltrator attacks if you punish them ruthlessly.

There are plenty of reasons where that is not the desirable solution, say when you got a Prisoner Agreement with the enemy Realm protecting your own Infiltrators. IF you deport them, I always thought sending them to the Colonies was the worst idea, in all honesty.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Norrel on April 05, 2013, 05:21:01 AM
There are plenty of reasons where that is not the desirable solution, say when you got a Prisoner Agreement with the enemy Realm protecting your own Infiltrators. IF you deport them, I always thought sending them to the Colonies was the worst idea, in all honesty.

Or what you can do is be a just and honorable realm that doesn't employ the service of vagabonds and assassins, and not give a crap about prisoner agreements, giving you the leverage needed to spill as much blood as humanly possible.

That's the point of Battlemaster, right? Kill counts?
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Scarlett on April 05, 2013, 12:54:19 PM
The result is another BM-ism:

Guy who is banished from all realms but one, who banished every noble in the realm where he was a traitor, has now returned and can lecture the realm on how awful it is, and nobody can do much of anything to him. Except ... ban him.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Velax on April 05, 2013, 01:16:20 PM
If he's in your prisons and a member of your realm, can't you ban him then execute/deport him?
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Scarlett on April 05, 2013, 02:04:18 PM
Possibly, if he stays in prison long enough.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Indirik on April 05, 2013, 02:47:57 PM
If a noble is in his own realm's prison, then no ban is needed to deport him. I think this may apply to execution, too.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Anaris on April 05, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
If a noble is in his own realm's prison, then no ban is needed to deport him. I think this may apply to execution, too.

No. Execution requires a ban.

If he's from your realm, though, you can ban him through the normal realm-banning route, rather than having to do so through the prison interface, so he's not released.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: ScooterMcCabe on April 08, 2013, 09:06:41 PM
Weren't you banned in Cathay by Baudoin last year and now you're in Cathay's dungeon?

How does this not end in execution? (I ask because I don't know - haven't executed anyone in years)

Well it hasn't ended in an execution....
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Bendix on May 16, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
That's why you don't send them to the Colonies and give them a reason to get back on a ship. Send them somewhere they like to go, so they stick around!

That's probably the wisest thing I've ever heard on the forums.
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Lorgan on May 16, 2013, 08:44:04 PM
That's what I used to tell the judges to avoid the colonies. :)
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Shizzle on May 16, 2013, 11:47:10 PM
Or what you can do is be a just and honorable realm that doesn't employ the service of vagabonds and assassins, and not give a crap about prisoner agreements, giving you the leverage needed to spill as much blood as humanly possible.

That's the point of Battlemaster, right? Kill counts?

Kill Counts. A capital mistake :)
Title: Re: Guess who's back? Tell a friend! Shady's(Seperoth) back.
Post by: Lefanis on May 17, 2013, 04:30:58 PM
Kill Counts. A capital mistake :)
I guess this means Melehan won BM  ;D