Make way for Fane!
...Nobles: 1
In fairness, this is playing the game how it's meant to be played, where nobles will stake everything for rank, titles, and personal glory.The game is not about doing silly things that you know will fail, or that you are pretty sure have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving more than about a week. You *can* do those things, but saying that the game is all about that is simply wrong.
The game is not about doing silly things that you know will fail, or that you are pretty sure have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving more than about a week. You *can* do those things, but saying that the game is all about that is simply wrong.
RIP Westmoor and Fane you both lived great lives.
They all transferred to the Western Moors. At whose behest I'm not sure.
Where did Fane's crest come from? That's actually a pretty nice coat of arms.
Wait a minute, why it has only 1 city and no rural? And only 1 noble? I thought seceding usually take a lot of efforts beforehand to ensure the city is well-fed and sustainable, etc. I never secede before, not even a Duke, so what happen here? ???
Noble Joins the Realm (10 hours, 27 minutes ago)
message to all nobles of Fane
Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore has joined your realm. He used to be a noble of Nivemus.
Ha! Fane has someone no one else has, we've got Dumbledore!
Success!
Pfffff you re nothing without Potter!
Ha! Fane has someone no one else has, we've got Dumbledore!
Success!
Ha! Fane has someone no one else has, we've got Dumbledore!We got Snape! He will kill Dumbledore you know :P
Success!
Screw Potter. Get Voldemort!Better yet Hermione, Miss Brain :D
Have fun, he doesn't talk much.
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That is your first noble, congratulations :)
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So just 2 noble? Can i sent my new noble, Stella to your realm?
Current General: Marshal Constable Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore
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Sits in a chair and serves a cup with wine
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...Dumbledore as General
The thing that I am enjoying best about Fane so far, even though I am practically all by myself, is that every single day is the feeling of life and death. The game is so much more exciting because of it! It's one of those things where the wind and the sun feel so much more better if you know you might not have the chance to taste them tomorrow (or could potentially win everything). And every single little gain is a monumental gain compared to the things that those mammoth realms earn. Sure they could squash me, but I have one new noble! One! Hallelujah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY)
This is the finest moment of Armstrong's entire life, bar none. Comparing that to Bowie who's been all over Dwilight and has been up and down the hierarchies, that's saying a hell of a lot.
That's right! Take that East Continent, master wizard is top cop around Castle Fane.
Well is a goo chance to open the contact list and offer Rural Region Lords position of power to they switch to Fane.Good idea. I believe Oligarch city has lot of gold, Armstrong could have plan in advance for this.
If that doesn't work save all the money you get, the income of the city of Oligarch for only 1 noble? you can buy a realm with it!
Sits in a chair and serves a cup with wine
This will be interesting to see..
Three whole nobles now. Woah. It's a runaway train!
I'd say that was pretty good given that it appears impossible to create any new characters in Fane at present. Is that intended behaviour? I miss the days when you could hear of some outrageous secession somewhere and immediately throw a character into the mix :-(
All aboard the Fane train!
Noble Leaves the Realm (50Nono... We have incentive for you, lordship, do you want it, name it. Dont leave just yet :P
minutes ago)
message to all nobles of Nivemus
Stella' Telmes Terises has left
your realm and joined the realm
of Fane instead.
Just join Fane.. Sorry Nivemus.. :) you will lost more noble after this..
The train which will be derailed rather soon!
Nono... We have incentive for you, lordship, do you want it, name it. Dont leave just yet :P
No doubt by Sirion :PMust be fun! Militia vs Sirion Army..
Haha.. Lordship, have to fight with other 20 noble.. But, I will take oberndorf B-)..Young Padawan, you are so ambitious. Dark Lord will consume you if you continue walk down this path. "Patience you must have my young padawan" ;D
Darn, Oberndorf is so close. Soooo closseee, I can taste it. (And I mean that literally and figuratively, Oligarch has many mouths to feed and we want Oberndorf's food!!!)That is only phase one ::)
:-*
Weren't they supposed to be a one-region city state?
Oh. Fane was TOing Oberndorf?
Weren't they supposed to be a one-region city state?
Sirion's ultimate goal for the war against Westmoor was to retake Oligarch. Fane is being naive if it thinks it can keep Sirion out.
You mean the ones that belonged to Oligarch (realm)
Sirion has owned Oligarch before.Yes, and Westmoor has owned Commonyr, Krimml, and Oberndorf before. Funny enough, Sirion says we don't have claims.
Who care with Westmorian claims? Commonyr and Krimml belongs to Avamar until now and if you don't have forces enough to take it, claims are useless.
Sirion will take Oligarch very soon to finish with Armstrong's dreams to keep the city for himself. Erik want to be the first one to be Duke over three cities.
Claims don't matter, the ability to act upon them does.How very ignoble of you. Claims of all sorts do, in fact, matter to the nobility. It is why even distant cousins were sometimes hunted down.
Uh... we were just attacking a realm closest to us and it just happened to be Westmoor. After all, this game is designed to attack your neighbours and the only non-Sirionite ally happened to be Westmoor.
With a new king, maybe we can change that ;) Who knows. Also, once this war ends, Zakilevo will be retiring so that could change things as well. Maybe the next prime minister won't be as aggressive as Zakilevo.
How very ignoble of you. Claims of all sorts do, in fact, matter to the nobility. It is why even distant cousins were sometimes hunted down.
Reminds me of something Pompey Magnus said to a city that objected against being attacked claiming it was against the law.
"Cease quoting the law, we carry weapons!"
Uh... we were just attacking a realm closest to us and it just happened to be Westmoor. After all, this game is designed to attack your neighbours and the only non-Sirionite ally happened to be Westmoor.
With a new king, maybe we can change that ;) Who knows. Also, once this war ends, Zakilevo will be retiring so that could change things as well. Maybe the next prime minister won't be as aggressive as Zakilevo.
Funny how Zakilevo seems to only be in office when Sirion is attacking Westmoor ;)No one got the balls to attack Westmoor but Zakilevo ;)
Retiring again? He reminds me of Federal Court judges who constantly get pulled out of retirement to handle difficult cases :PThis time for sure. The first time he retired, he retired to join Dunnera. The second time, due to my parents' separation so an ooc issue. This time though, is more permanent. Quite tired of trying to keep things going all the time. Time for someone else to do the job.
No one got the balls to attack Westmoor but Zakilevo ;)Oh no, Zaki is retiring. Who going be Brock new best friend? One of his best friend was killed by Westmoor in battle, mind you :(
This time for sure. The first time he retired, he retired to join Dunnera. The second time, due to my parents' separation so an ooc issue. This time though, is more permanent. Quite tired of trying to keep things going all the time. Time for someone else to do the job.
Sirion is a bully, they like to think that they can treat those smaller than themselves like dirt and do as they please. Sirion should also be mindful of how they treat others because sooner or later it will come back to bite them on the derriere ;)
Erik's ambitions never cease to amaze me :P
Smaller? Sirion fought for a long time before Erik and along Erik in the Great War, when we faced many enemies. Perdan was at our doors some time ago... well, they were almost becoming a problem again with Westmoor and OI. But the tides of war blew back in our favor because of our political and military powers. We are strong and we are smart. Well... we hate Westmoor. Knowing Sirion and considering the common judgment about us always being the bully (in your words), anyone would consider that Sirion would want Oligarch.
I'm amazed at how people forget that Perdan and Westmoor were ready to enforce the most outrageous terms to us, wanting to erect new realms and wanting to see Erik exiled. Unfortunately for you, Westmoor lost and we want to see Jor stripped of all his supposed power. Or you want to see your Church burned like we did with the Flow?
Fortunately, people will see much more of his ambitions. He's a conqueror and at some point, he will destroy Westmoor and OI... at least the peninsula. Many kingdoms still need to know the Silver Legion 8)
More like OOC circumstances that merely gave you an IC advantage. had the multi scandal not hit in OI with Shady, I think things would be different now.
Secondly you as in Sirion did not burn the Flow. That was Perdan and Caligus and also Westmoor when we were at war with Fontan.
But - what if Krimml and friends were to join Fane to create a new satellite between Sirion and the south, one neutral and awesome to boot?
IC - Zakilevo wants Fane gone. Oligarch is a long lost city for Sirion. It once belonged to Sirion's most famous prime minister, Doc Primus. Retaking the city, the prize Sirion earned by defeating the realm of Oligarch which once threatened Sirion greatly, means Sirion will finally restore their former borderline before the great northern war. The restoration of the republic will be complete with Oligarch :)
OoC - I was always a big supporter of more realms. It is boring and uninteresting to have big realms. Sirion obviously is becoming too big and occupying one quarter of the continent may sounds good but it does nothing but bring more enemies. I hope Sirion makes another realm or something once Zakilevo retires.
I'm amazed at how people forget that Perdan and Westmoor were ready to enforce the most outrageous terms to us, wanting to erect new realms and wanting to see Erik exiled. Unfortunately for you, Westmoor lost and we want to see Jor stripped of all his supposed power. Or you want to see your Church burned like we did with the Flow?
OOC, I can see many benefits in Fane continuing to exist. Speaking as a player, I don't really see what will be added to the game by Sirion destroying Fane, beyond Sirion saying, "Woo-hoo, we got another chunk of land". It's painfully obvious that Sirion is already too big. They only have loose control over Commonyr much of the time, even though the regional lord (lady in that case) spends most of her time there. They're getting close to the point where the realm's going to have to split.Sirion has held it before. I do't see why they couldn't again. They may not get much taxes out of it, but it's not all about taxes.
It's fairly clear that the next big war is going to have to be either Sirion vs Perdan, or Sirion vs Caligus. Once either Perdan or Caligus wins the southern war, there won't be anyone else big enough for them to bother fighting except Sirion. The same applies to Sirion in the north - the only realms for them to fight will be either Perdan or Caligus.Sirion v. Perdan would be a boring war. To start with, Westmoor is in the middle. Makes life difficult for Westmoor, for however long they would last before becoming roadkill. After that... boredom would set in. Perdan couldn't break through Sirion's Maginot Line, and Sirion wouldn't really be able to hurt Perdan at all, due to the choke point in Bescanon.
Sirion and Caligus vs Armonia and Eponllyn is a possibility, but it would mostly be a long-range war.That..... is not even remotely possible.
But Perdan currently seems to be making mince-meat out of the south.Aye, Perdan is doing quite well for themselves. Mostly due to the complete lack of coordination on the part of the allied forces.
Allowing Fane to exist will create a more interesting dynamic in the north, and is no threat to Sirion because it's too small. There would also be the potential for Sirion to possibly gain and cultivate Fane as an ally, depending on the approach they took.If they're too small to be a threat, then what good are they as an ally? Essentially, anything that makes someone a good ally, also makes them a dangerous threat.
On the other hand, Sirion can't gain much more land before all of the realms on the continent see them as the greatest threat and someone initiates another mass war against them. Bad news for Sirion, especially because they've been losing nobles.Sounds like a good reason for Sirion to take Oligarch, then! :D
Sirion has held it before. I do't see why they couldn't again. They may not get much taxes out of it, but it's not all about taxes.
Sirion v. Perdan would be a boring war.
Sirion v. Caligus... Another boring war
That..... is not even remotely possibleErm... yes, it is. Although it is remote, it would just need a few changes in the political leaders (not specifically the rulers). But it would need Eponllyn to survive the current war, which I'll grant looks highly unlikely.
If they're too small to be a threat, then what good are they as an ally? Essentially, anything that makes someone a good ally, also makes them a dangerous threat
If Fane survives, it would eventually grow...
Fane will not have time to grow. We can always think about the future with the foundation of new realms
Sirion's big problem is that they've systematically blocked the growth of any realm that could become a decent opponent
I'm just contesting the idea and hope to see Fane in this situation. They would have to grow over Westmoor and then I believe you will want to see Sirion with Oligarch instead Armstrong as your new King.
To an extent, Oligarch is about the taxes. If you're not getting anything out of the city, running taxes at a low percentage to keep control, and don't have the knights to populate estates, what's the point?ePeen. If they have it, you don't, and they gloat over that fact.
So what are the alternatives for Sirion?Dunno. But I've seen the Perdan/Sirion thing before. You have to get the realms in between involved, or you can't have a war. But we've done Sirion/Fontan v. Perdan thing. If it weren't for Ibby/Ito gobbling up Perdan from behind, we could have held them off indefinitely. But Sirion won't have that, unless they convert Westmoor over to their side. Not gonna happen. (Westmoor may not be a Perdanese puppet, but unless you have some *serious* realm turnover, you're not going to turn them against Perdan.)
Sirion and the strongest survivor of the Perdan/Caligus scrap running seperate wars wailing on much smaller realms?IAIHAC.
In the event of a Perdanese defeat in the south, Caligus and Eponllyn vs Armonia might happen, and Sirion might get bored enough of sitting on the sidelines to chip in.Sirion is a staunch ally of Caligus. What will you do to break them apart?
Erm... yes, it is. Although it is remote, it would just need a few changes in the political leaders (not specifically the rulers). But it would need Eponllyn to survive the current war, which I'll grant looks highly unlikely.*Anything* could happen if you start changing out leaders. But that's really not worth speculating on, unless you have plots in the works to actually remove those leaders. (And if you do, you won't be talking about them here.)
Short-term thinking.In a way, yes, it is. But if you want Sirion to let Fane survive, then you have to give them a reason. "Let them live, and maybe they will eventually grow large enough to want to fight you" is hardly a compelling IC argument to allow them to live. The formation of Fane is an insult to Sirion. I can understand perfectly, IC, why they wouldn't want to let it survive.
Sirion's big problem is that they've systematically blocked the growth of any realm that could become a decent opponent,Really? Who have they oppressed? I would be interested to see this list.
OoCly, I wouldn't mind new realms growing to become a decent opponent. But ICly, it is my character's job to limit the potential danger to minimum. Any sane realm would try to keep their enemies down before they actually become a problem.
Seeing Westmoor as a puppet realm of Perdan is a fundamental misunderstanding of the political history between the two realms. The same goes for the Perdan/Obsidian Islands relationship too. I'm not saying that Nivemus, or any other realm Sirion might found, might not become a future opponent for Sirion, but it won't happen for years because they have to be populated with Sirionite loyalists to get them off the landing pad.What you are describing is exactly what happened when Perdan created Westmoor. It was founded with Perdan (and Caligus, but mostly Perdan) loyalists. It was a staunch Perdan ally for a LONG time. It *has* been RL years since the founding of the realm (almost 5 RL years now), and they are still strong allies of Perdan. From the outside, you have to admit that this strong and immutable relationship sure looks like it could be a puppet realm.
To a certain extent, it'll be Sirion that suffers from that because you'll eventually have no-one left to fight without treking the full length of the continent.Oh, seeing Sirion collapse from boredom wouldn't break my heart too much. In fact, I might just hoist a frosty beverage in salute.
Oh, seeing Sirion collapse from boredom wouldn't break my heart too much. In fact, I might just hoist a frosty beverage in salute.
What you are describing is exactly what happened when Perdan created Westmoor. It was founded with Perdan (and Caligus, but mostly Perdan) loyalists. It was a staunch Perdan ally for a LONG time. It *has* been RL years since the founding of the realm (almost 5 RL years now), and they are still strong allies of Perdan. From the outside, you have to admit that this strong and immutable relationship sure looks like it could be a puppet realm.
As for Obsidian Islands.... No one gave a damn about the islands. It's a craphole. The entire island chain wasn't worth anyone bothering to make a puppet out of, until they got their hands on some mainland real estate. The most useful thing the islands ever did was provide a realm for someone to overthrow (i.e. the Kalmar Islands) so that Perdan, Itorunt, and Old Rancagua could send troops to beat the crap out of them and create the Obsidian Islands. After we wiped out KI and recreated the realm as OI, we ignored them. They just weren't worth the effort.
Oh, seeing Sirion collapse from boredom wouldn't break my heart too much. In fact, I might just hoist a frosty beverage in salute.
Speaking from my characters efforts as the Ambassador for Westmoor and working closely with all the monarchs to date, Westmoor hasnt had much choice in that regard. Sirion doesnt want to be friends with Westmoor, neither does Nivemus. Caligus is happy to maintain peaceful relations with us, but all efforts thus far have proven futile in advancing relations. My character is of the view that we acknowledge our ties to Perdan and would like to maintain good relations with them, but not at the detriment to Westmoors future and prosperity.I'm definitely not making the claim that Westmoor is a Perdanese puppet. Yet I can easily see how other realms might see it so. Any realm that splits from another, and doesn't end up at war with the parent, is always viewed by the parent's realm as a puppet realm. It was the same way with Fontan and the Sultanate of Asena. Sirion and Nivemus. Ibladesh and the Diocese of Aix (except that in that case it really was a puppet/master relationship ;) ) You can't escape the accusations, so I mostly ignore them.
During the current wars, my character has even questioned our alliance with them. Perdan started the war in the North, then leaves Westmoor to rot to tend to matters in the South. He feels that Perdan started this mess and has now left Westmoor out to dry at the mercy of superior numbers from Sirion. Perdan doesnt seem to care about our fate, what kind of ally is that? From that point, its not hard to see Westmoor is not a blind puppet If you actually understand what is going on within Westmoor.Relationships between Perdan and Westmoor have been rocky in the past. At one point Westmoor demanded Bescanon from Perdan, under threat of war. That particular ruler ended up not lasting very long.
So really, at the end of the day, Westmoor currently doesnt have much choice.Sometimes, that is truly the case.
My character is of the view that we acknowledge our ties to Perdan and would like to maintain good relations with them, but not at the detriment to Westmoors future and prosperity. During the current wars, my character has even questioned our alliance with them. Perdan started the war in the North, then leaves Westmoor to rot to tend to matters in the South. He feels that Perdan started this mess and has now left Westmoor out to dry at the mercy of superior numbers from Sirion. Perdan doesnt seem to care about our fate, what kind of ally is that? From that point, its not hard to see Westmoor is not a blind puppet If you actually understand what is going on within Westmoor.
This Commentary, from a Political Editor Point of View
I am interested to know what is Sirion thinking, it has been proved that Nivemus's Military is weak, to no say ineffective. Sirion need more allies, either they hold hands with Westmoor, or feed Fane Westmoor's regions to make it grow.
Sirion have to forget the idea of "we have terrain advantage and we are supreme" because they had doubts when Perdan was marching with Westmoor and (can't believe i don't remember that realm name..... *40 second later*) Armonia. Sirion have to wake up from that boredom because Caligus have bad news for them.
God knows what could happens, but if Perdan Falls, Caligus block will control half of the continent, creating on Perdan a new colony, that Perdan surrenders and force by treaty to no fight, or last but not least, a Duke secede and create a new realm, but don't worry about that one, it only happens on Atamara.
As i said at the beginning, does Sirion have a plan, but as to me they look like these people who increase weight and get fat, and then they get vascular problem, or couldn't defend himself because he never worried about making exercise. (Making reference to their land area).
Sirion, stop eating and Think, because Avamar will Burn!
PS
I go get the torches....
You know? There was once a man who had like 110 years old and he looked like in his early 70's. A reporter went to his home to interview him and asked the old man
Interviewer: "How do you do to stay that young at your 110 years old?"
Old Man: " i avoid senseless discussions and stupid confrontations or argues"
Interviewer: "Thats impossible, there must be something else!!"
Old man: "Yes you are right, there must be something else"
So Lorgan... yes you are most surely right.
Cheers!
Gregor Relak? :P
Letter from Armstrong Ironsides
Message sent to the Rulers of East Continent (8 recipients)
It is a privilege to receive a declaration of war from the power of the north. As a hero, I seek no better foe in combat than one with strength and skill better than I.
Prime Minister Zakilevo, you and your peers believed you could take Oligarch from Westmoor by battering them into submission. I spent a lifetime of duty and military service to earn Oligarch, did you think I would just give it away with the signing of some piece of paper? I earned this city with blood and steel and that is the only way I will grant its removal from my possession. It is the achievement of my life and I stake my life to keep it.
The battle to come will showcase Fane's fortitude and readiness. It will galvanize our glory and nobility, and will prove that Fane is the single greatest realm ever to stand on the East Continent. When knights and dames speak of valour they will think of Fane, not Sirion. When Marshals lead their forces into battle they will secretly fantasize that they are Faneian Marshals ordering the battle lines on the walls of Oligarch. When Kings and Queens sit on their thrones after decades of pomp their hearts will sag with the truth that their throne can never equal that of Fane. From the day Fane was born, all nobles wished they were here, in Oligarch, to face you. From these moments on, the name Fane will be synonymous with valour, with courage, with strength and willpower! It will be the highest glory a hero has ever acquired. Fane will become the measure of a noble. Just as the memory of a fallen hero inspires and captures the spirit of all braves, so to will the memory of Fane resound forevermore! And all of this we owe to you, the elves and their pet.
It is with gratitude, then, that I unsheath my sword and wait for you to try and mount my walls.
Glory be,
Armstrong Ironsides
King, Merchant Chief of Fane
Royal of Fane
Duke of Oligarch
Margrave of Oligarch
...Fane, enjoy the last day on earth...
Fane enjoyed every day on Earth 8)
I am not at all surprised by this.
There was no IC declaration because there is no IC reason to go to war with the new found realm other than Sirionite greed for the city. I honestly don't think King Armstrong has even had time to cement any relations let alone pee anyone off for them to want to go to war with him.
I hope Fane can hold them off, only time will tell I guess.
Back to this topic:
Akesh Temple has no walls as we speak. ;)
I was also very sad that after-battle talks or battle rps are not happening anymore so much.
Armonians were much more talkative! :D
Isnt that a topic of other thread? :o
I am not at all surprised by this.
There was no IC declaration because there is no IC reason to go to war with the new found realm other than Sirionite greed for the city. I honestly don't think King Armstrong has even had time to cement any relations let alone pee anyone off for them to want to go to war with him.
I hope Fane can hold them off, only time will tell I guess.
the way it happened Sirion can easily see Fane as an extension of Westmoor
Why in earth would Sirion need to explain a war declaration against Fane? So every time your realm is losing you just secede 1 city and force the other realm to "create" a reason to war that new realm?
No one even asked if Armstrong Ironsides even wrote a letter to Zakilevo letting him know his plan of secede, that could have at least showed Sirion an honest intention of creating a realm separated from Westmoor, the way it happened Sirion can easily see Fane as an extension of Westmoor and war Fane for the same reasons Sirion was fighting Westmoor.
Westmoor used all kind of lies and tricks in the past to join wars against Sirion
The fact that the creation of Fane wont stop the Sirion war machine was very well stated inside Sirion and everyone pretty much agreed. I find it weird that Sirion "needs" to make a full war declaration to the rulers or even to Fane itself because the very same reasons Sirion was fighting Westmoor is what applies for Fane, Armstrong knew very well that seceding wouldnt be exorting the new realm from war.
A war declaration wouldnt improve the RP atmosphere in my opinion but remark the obvious.
Cheers.
“A leader leads by example, not by force” .- Sun Tzu ;)
Well first that comes in my mind is the imaginary kidnap of the Westmoorian king to declare war just to join Fontan and Sultanate of Asena. When in truth Westmoor had already made a deal with Fontan about the regions Fontan would give up when taking the Sirionite ones, making the kidnap a very lame invented excuse just to join the gangbang.
The fact that happened 3, 4 or 10 years ago doesnt remove it as a fact.
SIRION NEVER FORGETS!
It is good when people don't forget their RP. :)
That is how it should be.
It's not good when people are still upset over perceived slights that happened 5+ RL years ago. Most players in the game haven't been here that long, so basing your foreign policy on events that old is just going to upset and confuse them.
It's not good when people are still upset over perceived slights that happened 5+ RL years ago. Most players in the game haven't been here that long, so basing your foreign policy on events that old is just going to upset and confuse them.
While that is true, there is also the "We have always been at war with Eurasia" mentality at play. Even if the actual perceived slight is from so long ago that few characters alive then actually remember it, the resulting dislike between realms can take deep roots. It would be bad RP to suddenly become friends with a realm you've hated since you were born, even if you have no other reason to hate them than because it was the cool thing to do where you're from.
Are they still approaching Oligarch?
For the people who wants to see Avamar burning, you will need to wait for another couple of years.
The same counts for almost every realm in EC, so just because people can, that doesn't mean they will be successful. Also, there's a difference between pirates, occasional raids and burn then entire duchy and the city to the ground. It's possible, but just it.
Roleplay from Brock Ketchum
Message sent to everyone in the region Oligarch (33 recipients)
Stratarchos Brock shakes his head as someone mention to him about overhearing Fane Ruler speech.
He turns to address his Nivemus Warriors.
"Courage? Valour? Have they drink too much wine lately? Do they even know what is courage and valour about? Warriors of Nivemus, they are trying to takeover our rogue Oberndorf region recently. And yet, they sit here cowering behind their wall, thinking they act honorably. First step in Fane book of diplomacy relationship with your neighbor realm is to takeover your neighbor realm claimed rogue region. How courage and valour are that sound like. If this is the beginning of Fane diplomacy, I shudder to think what is the next step in Fane book of diplomacy."
The difference with Sirion is that it's the only way anyone can get in at it.
Nivemus need a good reason for war? Oh, okay. How about Fane trying to TakeOver the rogue Oberndorf, the one region next to our capital? Fane is a good neighbor aye? No good neighbor realm start their Diplomacy relationship with taking over Oberndorf that is claimed by us 8)In actual fact, our Ruler is busy RL and he did mention OOCly to our realm of course. Which could be why he not post in Ruler channel recently. No need to mention to outsiders, okay? You all dont know? Good ;)
Technically speaking, a rogue region is a rogue region, regardless of who previously owned it or who has claims to it. You cant say its yours and say they attempted to invade your lands when the region is rogue... ::)Fair enough. Do read my RolePlay a bit. It is about "claimed rogue region", not "invade your lands". We are talking about different points :)
I personally think Westmoor should fight to the death.
Choice between kneeling and standing, seems they've choosen the choice to kneel. Then becoming nothing more than a fraction of it''s strength. Sirion will finally get Nivemus land oo the puppet region prospers.
Revolt!
That was some epic battle. Haven't had that in awhile. 8)
EPIC
I'm gaining more honour and prestige in two days then in months in Niselur. If we hold on for two more battles I can become ruler eventually.
I'm still waiting another fame point for being Duke for the first time in Dwilight, but as it seems, I never get fame points from Dwilight.You already got your duke fame. You only get 1 point of fame from being a duke.
And good to know, Zaki... you need to retire so I can win the 4 points with Erik... lol.
You get two for being Duke, actually :)
Thus begins the drudge of a city TO. Here's to cancelling it every turn!
And Armstrong was wounded again, that's all three battles now. I am surprised he has not been killed yet. If not, God wills it!
The best way to get the ruler fames :). Join a dying realm and become a ruler and stay as a ruler for 100 days. You get 4 fame point easily.
There is a region limit for ruler fame, to prevent exactly this situation from occuring.
if Armstrong died, who will be new king of Fane?
Sirion must be so proud beating a one city realm into the ground, yay for Sirion supremacy. God forbid they actually faced an enemy that can match them for strength on the battlefield 8)
Sirion must be so proud beating a one city realm into the ground, yay for Sirion supremacy. God forbid they actually faced an enemy that can match them for strength on the battlefield
Can't force people to change their unit type :p
Sirion must be so proud beating a one city realm into the ground, yay for Sirion supremacy. God forbid they actually faced an enemy that can match them for strength on the battlefield 8)
Sirion must be so proud beating a one city realm into the ground, yay for Sirion supremacy. God forbid they actually faced an enemy that can match them for strength on the battlefield 8)If you don't want to be mauled by the bear, then don't poke the bear with the pointy stick. If you pick up the stick and start poking, you deserve your mauling.
If you don't want to be mauled by the bear, then don't poke the bear with the pointy stick. If you pick up the stick and start poking, you deserve your mauling.
Sirion must be so proud beating a one city realm into the ground, yay for Sirion supremacy. God forbid they actually faced an enemy that can match them for strength on the battlefield 8)They survived a 4v1 war, your turn again :)
They survived a 4v1 war, your turn again :)
They survived a 4v1 war, your turn again :)
They survived a 4v1 war, your turn again :)
You mean 5v1? Fontan-Westmoor-SoA-OI-Perdan? Or does OI not count :o
OI never counts. What is this OI you speak of? Do you mean the wild islandtribe with absolutely zero significance ever?
You disrespect the best unit cohesion risers ever.Indeed. I would never discount OI at all. Remember OI did bring 10K CS to the table when they attack Nivemus the last time ;D
Duel (20 hours, 12 minutes ago)
Brock Ketchum, Stratarchos of Nivemus, Knight of Obando meets his challenger Stella' Telmes Terises, Dame of Oligarch for the agreed duel till surrender.
Stella' Telmes has decided to use the 'defensive' strategy while Brock has chosen the 'neutral' strategy, giving Brock the advantage.
The duel goes back and forth for a while. Finally, Stella' Telmes surrenders after suffering a light wound.
As one of the little here with insights to northern and southern military aspects, I'd say you compare here apples with bananas. (You can choose what Sirion is ;))
Sirion has fought (and won) valliantly in a 5 vs 1 war, I was there, in Sirion.
But you can't compare Sirion to any other realm due to two factors: a) defensive advantage due their long line of walls at the Sirion river and b) a huge amount of ressources.
Even if it seems that it sounds so special and unfair to some, but the only way to defeat Sirion is to hit it with more than 1 realm, since you will need to attack it on multiple fronts and Sirion, even if only limited to the lands behind Sirion river, is BIG.
No sane realm would attack Sirion alone.
Sirion's army now is a terrible but powerful beast to tame, but on defensive, including their wall lines and their excellent ranged units, Sirion is not to be defeated. This must be admitted here in all honesty.
Even a mediocre general would do not bad with such defensive capabilities if he just knew to move along the line when needed (well I did bad for some, as I was the first to leave those walls - chaarge! - hehe ;)).
Sirion's ressources + defensive advantage is something that no other realm has and therefore it is very "brave" (be cautious: irony) to say "it's your turn now" to any other realm on EC.
Sirion and all other realms on EC simply play in a different league - now more than ever before of course - and I always wonder, when some Sirion players still speak about "vengeance" and "you should suffer the same", when that only means that they lower this way their own realm's status to the other realms.
It is easy to give arguments with monday's newspaper. Before we stood up and beated everyone NO ONE gave two cents about Sirion winning. Everyone was either cockily bragging about who would get Parm, who would get Avamar and how they would make fun of Sirion been a single city realm in Slimbar or just pointing out how doomed Sirion was. We beated all of them and suddenly is easy to defend Sirion?
Bleh!
Sirion's geography is a bit ridiculous though, you have 6 regions that access it's heartland and 4 of them happen to be a city or a stronghold... I would think it has the most defensible geography across BM except maybe for Riombara, and that was because of the netherworld swallowing a huge chunk of Beluaterra.
We beated all of them and suddenly is easy to defend Sirion?FWIW - I have maintained for years that Sirion is ridicullously easy to defend. I've been saying this since way back when it was "everyone V. Sirion", back before the first Perdan/Caligus war. Not only do you have a huge ring of fortifications, but you have the internal geography (small regions, low travel times, and good region connections) that makes defender movements fast and easy, while the attackers have huge regions, long travel times, and probably crappy roads. The only way to break through this is to smash into the walls with huge armies, in multiple locations. Or spend an insane amount of time marching all the way north to the coastline, and then across the plains. Again, very slow and hard to hide your intentions, especially if you have friends in Nivemus reporting troop movements.
Blaming Sirion for it would be like blaming Perdan for having their northern border guarded by Bescanon, a river, and some tall mountains.
Sirion is vulnerable by sea... then it's wise to reduce some power around before we have sea travels in East Continent. 8)
Hey Sirion and Nivemus, stop assassinating/capturing Armstrong! I am planning on engaging in death duels, so quit interfering! If you want me ousted just let time and circumstance do the job - everything will take care of itself!!!!! Armstrong is wounded still, but as he heals I want to be fully fit to fight in a death duel. We were SO close three or four days ago but someone from Sirion decided to cut into Armstrong. Not nice!!Maybe there is big gold bounty on Armstrong head, so the infiltrator could not resist.
:-*
....<3 Armstrong's following Gregor's lead and just seceding.
Duel Death (16 hours, 29 minutes ago)
Armstrong has suffered a fatal blow in a duel against Malakai. He died quickly.
Duel (16 hours, 29 minutes ago)
Armstrong Ironsides, King of Fane, Royal of Fane, Duke of Oligarch meets his challenger Sir Malakai Wolf, Legodos of Nivemus, Baron of Caqueta, Marshal of High Guard for the agreed duel till death.
Malakai has decided to use the 'trick moves' strategy while Armstrong has chosen the 'overrun' strategy, giving Malakai the advantage.
The duel goes as planned, then badly for Armstrong. He suffers several slight wounds, then a final, fatal blow. The healers hurry, but they are too late.
Malakai, although the winner, has also suffered a light wound.
I'm glad he met the end you wanted for him. Armstrong was a great, well-drawn character and he deserved to go out in the style you wanted.
If we can get his body back from Nivemus, the CoH will lay him to rest in the Sacred Order of Battle in Morshes, as per his wishes. Thomas has given him a full pardon and decreed that Armstrong will be entombed with all honours due to a fallen king. His weapons, armour, and the flag and crown of Fane will be placed in the tomb with him. Let the bards make him into a legend.
All hail Armstrong, the once and future king! ;)
Nivemus will gladly deliver his body with full respect given to the man. Let us know IC? 8)
By the way, do anyone calculate how long Fane realm is created until its demise?
Looks like a bug. That is only supposed to be given for a legendary hero. And you can only have a legendary her from death in combat....
Actually, I don't think the manner of death has ever had any bearing on whether they are legendary hero or not. The only factor determining whether a hero has a heroic death or a legendary one is the amount of prestige they have when they die.
Actually, I don't think the manner of death has ever had any bearing on whether they are legendary hero or not.
The only factor determining whether a hero has a heroic death or a legendary one is the amount of prestige they have when they die.
Looks like a bug. That is only supposed to be given for a legendary hero. And you can only have a legendary her from death in combat....