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BattleMaster => BM General Discussion => Topic started by: Tom on July 26, 2013, 10:17:45 AM
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As discussed in several other topics, a push on Facebook might bring us additional players, possibly many.
The first thing to do, if you haven't already done so, is to like the official BM page:
https://www.facebook.com/BattleMasterGame
This topic is to discuss the additional steps beyond that.
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I have seen many comments recently, it would be good for people to add a hashtag to the end (#battlemaster?)
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I don't know anything about hashtags. What would that do for us?
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Reading these posts, I had to laugh when I imagined you were both old grumpy men haha :P
'Hey Bob, maybe it'd be a good idea to add them 'hashtags' kids be a-usin' these days'
'What's a hashtag Herman? I don't know nothin' 'bout those, can we grow them?'
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"Get offa my lawn! Damn kids..."
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I don't know anything about hashtags. What would that do for us?
a hashtag (technically it should be called a pound or shart since it's the # symbol) basically gives your post a category, so people searching a category will find all related posts, or if it gets popular other people see 'trending' topics.
It's all very hippy.
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a hashtag (technically it should be called a pound or shart since it's the # symbol)
You mean the hash symbol, which is a name for that far more common than "shart" (at least where I come from)?
;D
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You mean the hash symbol, which is a name for that far more common than "shart" (at least where I come from)?
;D
Where I live no one calls it "shart" or "pound", and "hash" onky in the context of "hashtag" - it's usually the "number sign".
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Where I live no one calls it "shart" or "pound", and "hash" onky in the context of "hashtag" - it's usually the "number sign".
Same here, but now the we are getting very off-topic.
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You mean the hash symbol, which is a name for that far more common than "shart" (at least where I come from)?
;D
No, hashtag is the proper terminology for this usage, since it implies an online social media context.
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No, hashtag is the proper terminology for this usage, since it implies an online social media context.
Yes, Gustav. The point Azerax was trying to make was that, to him, the # itself is not commonly called a "hash" symbol, so it should be called a "pound tag".
I believe everyone involved in this sub-discussion knows what a hashtag is.
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Maybe we should post on Facebook about this exciting conversation.
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...shart? Seriously? It's called that in some places? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I'd certainly recommend we go in for targetted FB ads, or even have some people go and post stuff about BM in public FB RPG/MMORPG groups- quick targeted ads with links to the forum and the home page. The latter especially can produce huge effects. Yes, it's kinda spammy, but it will get us more hits. Hashtags are all very well, but you need far larger numbers of people using the BM hashtag than we have if you want it to have any tangible effect.
At the publication house where I work, we're trying a similar campaign to reach out to more people. We posted one of our newer articles to a targeted audience on reddit, and our site traffic quadrupled for that week, and the bottoming out happened at a level higher than our earlier stable peak. For reference, its a small site, doubt its too much bigger than BM.
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...shart? Seriously? It's called that in some places? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That was my first reaction too! That word has a much different meaning among most people I know.
We posted one of our newer articles to a targeted audience on reddit
Has there ever been any sort of Battlemaster presence on reddit? It might not be a bad idea to do Facebook ads and hit up the other popular sites that can help increase traffic and maybe turn people on to the game itself.
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Maybe we should post on Facebook about this exciting conversation.
+1 Well played, sir.
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Has there ever been any sort of Battlemaster presence on reddit? It might not be a bad idea to do Facebook ads and hit up the other popular sites that can help increase traffic and maybe turn people on to the game itself.
It seems there is a BM subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Battlemaster/). Good thinking actually. That would probably be a very good place for us to start making an effort.
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It seems there is a BM subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Battlemaster/). Good thinking actually. That would probably be a very good place for us to start making an effort.
Then stop talking about it and start doing it. ;-)
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This is slightly off topic, but does anyone know what would be involved in getting BM added to the list of text-based MMORPGs on Wikipedia, along with an associated description page?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs)
Battlemaster must be one of the longest lived, not-for-profit, text-based MMOs in continuous play in the world. If that doesn't deserve an entry on Wikipedia, I'll eat my shoes. Just getting BM a Wikipedia listing might bring in a ton of extra players.
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IIRC, BattleMaster used to have a wikipedia article, but it got removed for reasons I've forgotten since.
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Going back a while, but a history here: http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/Wikipedia
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IIRC, BattleMaster used to have a wikipedia article, but it got removed for reasons I've forgotten since.
It got removed because of the deletionist movement on Wikipedia, which is intent upon removing as many articles as possible.
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It got removed because of the deletionist movement on Wikipedia, which is intent upon removing as many articles as possible.
"THITACION NEEDED! OMG! You can't jutht go around putting articleth for thingth that EGTHITHT! You gotta have THITACIONS!"
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If you value your sanity, stay away from the deletionists.
Reading these posts, I had to laugh when I imagined you were both old grumpy men haha :P
'Hey Bob, maybe it'd be a good idea to add them 'hashtags' kids be a-usin' these days'
'What's a hashtag Herman? I don't know nothin' 'bout those, can we grow them?'
Hey Wolfang, I think reality is stealing your jokes:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/25/1226567/-Shadowy-group-of-losers-plot-conservative-strategy-hashtags
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... We should of deleted Wikipedia before they could delete us ::) 8)
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This is slightly off topic, but does anyone know what would be involved in getting BM added to the list of text-based MMORPGs on Wikipedia, along with an associated description page?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs)
Battlemaster must be one of the longest lived, not-for-profit, text-based MMOs in continuous play in the world. If that doesn't deserve an entry on Wikipedia, I'll eat my shoes. Just getting BM a Wikipedia listing might bring in a ton of extra players.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs) has been updated.
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Excellent. Great work. Now it needs an actual page to describe the game. Considering how new some of the games on that list are, Battlemaster should certainly be suitable for a full entry on Wikipedia. If they delete it, I really don't know why some of those other games are more deserving of entries.
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Part of it has to do with the notability requirements. A subject has to be mentioned in three hardcopy publications before it can be considered notable and deserving of a wikipedia page.
Of course just like everything else about wikipedia, this is highly subjective, and arbitrary.
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Part of it has to do with the notability requirements. A subject has to be mentioned in three hardcopy publications before it can be considered notable and deserving of a wikipedia page.
Of course just like everything else about wikipedia, this is highly subjective, and arbitrary.
Not to mention by the use of such notability requirements by deletionists, it's really taking out the thing that made Wikipedia different form any other encyclopedia.
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anybody want to publish three one page hardcover books with only this for text: www.battlemaster.org
and then name them -Suck it Deletionists
-Battlemaster on the Wiki forever
-Trololol: The Trololololing?
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It looks like that Wikipedia BM entry egamma made has already been deleated. It took them less than two hours... they're certainly fast if nothing else >:(
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text-based_MMORPGs) has been updated.
It took the Wikipedia stupids one hour to revert your edit.
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anybody want to publish three one page hardcover books with only this for text: www.battlemaster.org (http://www.battlemaster.org)
No trolling, please, no matter how much you disagree.
But if you can get BM mentioned in some online magazine, you would do us all a massive favour. Many of the smaller ones are accepting outside reviews, if they are well-written.
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No trolling, please, no matter how much you disagree.
But if you can get BM mentioned in some online magazine, you would do us all a massive favour. Many of the smaller ones are accepting outside reviews, if they are well-written.
We tried that last time.
The deletionists said that because it was a user-submitted review, it didn't count. It must be written up by the staff of the publication.
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...although I think it's worth noting that Omerta's "references" are all press releases, and two of OGame's four are from its own site/wiki. (And one of the other two, while it appears to be from an official publication, only redirects to the main page of Heise.de.)
So apparently some games are good enough to include without the strict requirements applied to BattleMaster.
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To be fair to the deletionists, egamma's edit did come across strongly as advertising - the link and description were, well, a little on the heavyhanded side.
But yeah, we just need someone to write up some articles on the interwebs for us.
And we should call one "Suck it, deletionists!"
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Well, the other links were all wiki links, but Battlemaster isn't 'notable' enough to have it's on wikipedia page. So it was a direct link instead of a wiki link.
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Well, the other links were all wiki links, but Battlemaster isn't 'notable' enough to have it's on wikipedia page. So it was a direct link instead of a wiki link.
You see, this is how it works:
They don't allow you on the list because you don't have a WP page.
They delete your WP page because you are not notable.
Frankly, whatever. Stop wasting time with Wikipedia, it's a lost course. There is nothing on it that you don't already know, because nothing that isn't already public knowledge is allowed on. Unless you want to find the name of some obscure porn star, they all have their own WP page. So much for the priorities of WP editors.
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I'd like to point out that TVTropes considers this game worthy of note:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BattleMaster
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I'd like to point out that TVTropes considers this game worthy of note:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BattleMaster (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BattleMaster)
Nice find. Well, that's one mention. Here are two more, one an article by me and one an interview with me:
http://buildingbrowsergames.com/2009/01/29/battlemaster-post-mortem/
http://buildingbrowsergames.com/2009/02/09/interview-tom-from-battlemaster/
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If anyone here is a "troper" it might help to add BM to different pages.
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We could do something like what Urban Dead did. Get a crappy B rate movie to sponsor the game.
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Funny you should mention that. I actually had an idea for a short film based on Battle Master.
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I'd like to point out that TVTropes considers this game worthy of note:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BattleMaster
No, TVTropes explicitly has no notability guidelines, unlike Wikipedia. So someone took the time to add the page, not necessarily that they found it notable. But still, that page could also use work.
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Ah but you see somewhere a troper had to consider it notable to bother writing it down :P
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This should definitely be used as a testimonial for the game in some context:
I like to think I learned my English on Battlemaster and so far handling english papers has been a walk in the park.
Here's the full quote:
I started when I was barely 13, I believe. Just got to a new school. Some old friends from my tabletennis club (yup) told me about Battlemaster, and I began playing it. Never had a class of English. It was almost a "I'm 12 and what is this" experience, the only difference me being 13.
Now I'm 23, trying to finish off university and starting to look towards the job market more and more. I like to think I learned my English on Battlemaster and so far handling english papers has been a walk in the park.