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BattleMaster => Marketing => Wiki => Topic started by: cjnodell on May 11, 2011, 07:18:17 PM
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I think it would be great if the population numbers generated on the wiki for regions and realms actually represented current population levels instead of max population levels. Not really sure if that is possible or much work, but it would be cool.
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This would be possible, requiring what would be a minor code change to the External Data APIs. (See the wiki page about these APIs (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/External_Services_and_Tools).)
When the external data feed was first enabled, this was one of the points that was raised. Tom replied that he didn't want the data about current region population to be available in this manner, as it could lead to people who use the external APIs getting some kind of OOC advantage over those who don't. It would make trend tracking via external tools very easy. Someone with enough programming skill could easily data mine the APIs to develop long-term trend data for individual realms and regions.
I am not sure whether or not this is a valid concern, but there you have it.
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I was actually wondering if being able to track region population so easily might be something people might be able to use to their advantage. I am honestly do not know enough to say. So I will just have to trust Tom's and the dev's judgement on this!
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Considering that we can already check the current population of any region (on stable and BT) and any human-controlled regions (Dwi), the major difference is only how much effort one has to put in to achieve the same results.
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I was going to suggest something similar.
Right now in the ingame description of a region you can see the following:
Population: 6000 (Current Population)
Economy: (Nothing, they are lazy bums :-\)
Gold: 207 gold (Max possible gold income)
Food: 274 bushels (Max possible food income)
And in the wiki you see:
Population 6950 (Max possible population)
I suggest the ingame description to go something along this line:
Population: 6000/6950
Gold: X/207
Food: Y/274
or
Current Population: 6000
Population Limit: 6950
Gold Limit: 207 gold
Food Limit: 274 bushels
And the wiki something like this:
Population Limit 6950
Gold Limit 207
Food Limit 274
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I was going to suggest something similar.
Right now in the ingame description of a region you can see the following:
Population: 6000 (Current Population)
Economy: (Nothing, they are lazy bums :-\)
Gold: 207 gold (Max possible gold income)
Food: 274 bushels (Max possible food income)
And in the wiki you see:
Population 6950 (Max possible population)
I suggest the ingame description to go something along this line:
Population: 6000/6950
Gold: X/207
Food: Y/274
or
Current Population: 6000
Population Limit: 6950
Gold Limit: 207 gold
Food Limit: 274 bushels
And the wiki something like this:
Population Limit 6950
Gold Limit 207
Food Limit 274
I would love to see food production and the like be moved to the external API. Then I could easily have all my food related spreadsheets grab current data from the server. I could even set the whole thing up as a wiki template and everyone could easily have detailed food production information and estimates for any realm. Oh wait, perhaps that is what we wish to avoid :)
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I would love to see food production and the like be moved to the external API. Then I could easily have all my food related spreadsheets grab current data from the server. I could even set the whole thing up as a wiki template and everyone could easily have detailed food production information and estimates for any realm. Oh wait, perhaps that is what we wish to avoid :)
That is exactly what we wish to avoid—enemies being able to pick out exactly the region to loot for the maximum food damage, and exactly the right time.
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Indeed, it is so much what we want to avoid, that I didn't propose such a thing. :P
(For those that didn't understand, I am not asking about anything not already available. Just to have the max possible population listed in the game, not only in the wiki, and to have the max possible gold listed in the wiki, not only in the game)
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That is exactly what we wish to avoid—enemies being able to pick out exactly the region to loot for the maximum food damage, and exactly the right time.
Mind explaining to me how we can't already do this? I don't see any missing variable to do so...
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Mind explaining to me how we can't already do this? I don't see any missing variable to do so...
Unless I'm missing something, you don't have any way of remotely determining a region's current population and production values. You need scout reports or an inside source.
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Island-wide region list tells you current population values. You can then infer the (maximum) production values the region can sustain. Won't take into account if regions are at less than optimal stats, of course, but it still helps.
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Island-wide region list tells you current population values. You can then infer the (maximum) production values the region can sustain. Won't take into account if regions are at less than optimal stats, of course, but it still helps.
This.
And if you arrive to a region with less-than-optimal stats? Well, usually the second-best target is right next to it, or you can just be happy that the region needs less effort to turn rogue. In either case, one can plan very well ahead with available data.